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I can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfe’s part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesn’t seem to represent that for some reason.I really liked Richter’s score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.Richter did his recording in january and june 2019. The Director himself is a fan of Richter, so the deadline and director are not the reason.<br>It seemed that producers were not satisfied with Richter's music and they wanted something new, that's why they got Lorne. It turned out Lorne brought a very limited new...
@Cercei<br>Hybrid can definitely answer that best. Richter’s score is used (alongside Balfe’s material) as well as some source pieces. If I remember correctly it’s a mish-mash of the two.I do know that piece, it’s very pretty. I’ll check out his other works, thanks for the recommendation. In terms of minimalism I really am into Brian Eno at the moment. His “Music For Airports” and “The Lovely Bones” are excellent if you like more introspective music.btw, you're saying Lorne recomposed and reworked the entire score. as i haven't seen the movie yet, did the producers end up with not using richters score for it at all and just used the score from Lorne?thanks for your information. but i actually don't understand why they have done that. i've heard now Lornes cues and Richters cues. all those cues from Lorne, they sound very similiar to that what Richter composed, but somehow with less melodies. And you really have to work hard to not use fewer melodies then Richter, as he's a minimalist at its best ^^ with that being said, i can't hear any groundbreaking differences from Lornes part, so what was their idea on hiring it and getting the same style of music, but in a more "light" version? :/i really admire Max Richters work, he isn't that new in this scene. his style is that repeating minimalism. maybe you've heard once the cue "on the nature of daylight" which was used a lot by many other movies. his last score which knocked me out was "Hostiles". such an emotional and intense score, you need to hear that, and probably see the movie as well (with Christian Bale). <br><br>
Really surprised at this album, I’ve never really heard anything from Max Richter but I really like what he ended up writing for this score. It surprisingly flows well for a stand alone listen. It’s funny that the producers wanted a different approach, I think Richter nailed it.<br><br>Balfe’s contribution is excellent as well, I particularly like that repeating chord progression (which is starting to become one of his trademarks considering how many times he has used it). It’s disappointing that they didn’t include more of his contribution though, since he apparently rewrote the entire score.Lorne said in his Twitter, the first album for His Dark Materials come 3rd November, no date, for the moment, for the second album.Was the producersi haven't understood the fact, that Lorne was involved in this. Can someone explain it for me? Was the director not satisfied with Richters music? Was the deadline too near? Or what was the reason why they have brought Lorne to this project?"The Wanderer", "Event Horizon", "You Have To Let Me Go" and "Tuesday (Voiceless)" = WOW WOW WOW!!!
Zanelli is no James Newton Howard, but he did a fantastic job with writing a large scale fantasy score. I’ll even say that, while I think the first Maleficent is stronger overall, I personally like the action writing better here. Also 2 little things I’ve noticed;<br><br>1. The new theme here sounds fairly similar to the Father/Son tune from KFP3<br>2. 2:20-3:30 sounds like it may have been temped from the finale of Fantastic Beasts. (Or maybe I’m just crazy lol)Great work of Zanelli, if is not as good like JNH's Maleficent, is a tremendous work, with a terrific writing and orchestrations, even the most tender parts are terrific.It’s definitely Balfe. I’ve seen the film for the second time two weeks ago so my memory is kind of hazy but luckily I decided to record the end credits for reference and I think it plays in Balfe’s section / variation of one of his themes played on a solo string instrument. <br><br>I think we got most of Richter cues as it was mainly his release. I feel that Lorne has moved on from this project - he didn’t even mention the release so an extended release of his material seems unlikely to happen :( <br><br>For those interested the credits suite plays as follows: <br><br><br>“A Trip To The Moon” (synth part)<br>“I Put All That Away”<br>Variation on the theme in “Underground Lake” at 0:14<br>Variation on the theme in “Trip To Neptune” 0-1:00<br>“To The Stars”Season 2 premieres in 2 weeks, if he was scoring he would be working on it at the moment. But yes no confirmation regarding his return or a new composer. No news regarding new composer might be a hint whether Djawadi is returning or not.I only listened to the first couple of cues so it is too early to form an opinion comparing it to JNH but I disagree the first half drags. Maybe because I love tender themes.
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The Dark Knight (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 182'18
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  1. Logo (0:59)
    Mel Wesson
  2. Bank Robbery (5:36)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Find The Batman (1:46)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. Buyer Beware (3:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Mel Wesson
  5. Dirty Cash (0:55)
    James Newton Howard
  6. The New DA (1:04)
    James Newton Howard
  7. Hostile Witness (1:43)
    James Newton Howard
  8. Bank Warrants - LSI Holdings (2:40)
    James Newton Howard
  9. Who Appointed Batman? (1:17)
    James Newton Howard
  10. Move The Money (1:34)
    Hans Zimmer
  11. Kill The Batman (3:18)
    Hans Zimmer
  12. Halfaway To Hong Kong (1:19)
    James Newton Howard
  13. Trip To Hong Kong (1:29)
    Hans Zimmer
  14. Put A Smile On That Face (4:05)
    Hans Zimmer
  15. LSI Extraction (4:01)
    Hans Zimmer
  16. Mobsters Taken To Justice (0:59)
    James Newton Howard
  17. Are You Up To It? (1:14)
    James Newton Howard
  18. A Hero With A Face (1:25)
    James Newton Howard
  19. Joker Crashes The Party (3:05)
    Hans Zimmer
  20. Panic Room (0:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  21. You're Gonna Love Me (3:04)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  22. Watch The World Burn (3:19)
    James Newton Howard
  23. Loud Enough (4:06)
    Hans Zimmer
  24. Speech Ambush (1:39)
    Hans Zimmer
  25. Dent To Van (0:52)
    James Newton Howard
  26. Gordon Is Dead (1:05)
    Hans Zimmer
  27. Rachel Next (1:05)
    James Newton Howard
  28. Interrogating Schiff (2:50)
    James Newton Howard
  29. Blood On My Hands (1:41)
    James Newton Howard
  30. The Outcast (1:00)
    Lorne Balfe
  31. I Am The Batman (3:44)
    James Newton Howard
  32. Truck Convoy (1:07)
    Hans Zimmer
  33. Pod Deploys (0:57)
    Hans Zimmer
  34. Batman Down (0:51)
    Hans Zimmer
  35. We Gotcha (1:17)
    James Newton Howard
  36. Gordon Returns Home (1:08)
    James Newton Howard
  37. You Complete Me (3:41)
    Hans Zimmer
  38. Wired (8:49)
    Hans Zimmer
  39. Harvey Two-Face (2:43)
    James Newton Howard
  40. This Is My City (2:22)
    Hans Zimmer
  41. Hospital Bomb Scare (Part 1) (3:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  42. Hospital Bomb Scare (Part 2) (3:57)
    Hans Zimmer
  43. Explosion Aftermath (2:20)
    Hans Zimmer
  44. Dent Kills Wertz (1:15)
    James Newton Howard
  45. Sonar System (3:24)
    Hans Zimmer
  46. Unlucky Driver (1:19)
    James Newton Howard
  47. The Ferries (4:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  48. Always A Catch (2:43)
    Hans Zimmer
  49. Storming Pruitt Building (3:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  50. Give It To Me (3:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  51. A Little Push (2:19)
    Hans Zimmer
  52. Eye For An Eye (3:49)
    James Newton Howard
  53. Dent Defeated (0:36)
    Hans Zimmer
  54. I'm Not A Hero (3:45)
    Hans Zimmer
  55. A Dark Knight (0:37)
    Hans Zimmer
  56. End Credits (2:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  57. The Joker Suite (11:12)
    Hans Zimmer
  58. Harvey Dent Suite (10:22)
    James Newton Howard
  59. New Batman Theme (19:45)
    Hans Zimmer
  60. 103BPM Action Ice Theme (5:18)
    Hans Zimmer
  61. Interrogating Schiff (Alternate Intro) (2:43)
    James Newton Howard
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kakashi reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
i didnt think i would ever say this but Hybrid please give me a HEART ATTACK :)

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
I hope everybody gets what they want but why would a "composer" come to this website and talk about bootlegs of another composer, I wonder.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
I think patience is key here...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
That's what I did with TDK, see the result ? :P

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
> But basically I don't add secret stuff to H-Z.com, not being the first at least...

Why not? What harm is there in doing that? At least it lets people know its out there!

Bou reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
"Because trust me I could add here stuff that would make people have a heart attack & this TDK look like a "minor" bootleg... "

My god! I never want to know in this case :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
I didn't post it first to tease anyone (not in a bad sense anyway).

I just posted it because a couple of "covers websites" had revealed it before...

But basically I don't add secret stuff to H-Z.com, not being the first at least...


Because trust me I could add here stuff that would make people have a heart attack & this TDK look like a "minor" bootleg...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
@Andrew

That's right, a bit weird, as the guy says he's been asked not to share it and at the same time is asking to drop him emails...

Maybe he just wants to be beheaded by his source...

@kakashi

... And I don't want to be beheaded myself... :)



And, as for the eternal question, 2 CD or 3 CD ? Let me tell you, the original bootleg (you can see it's actual tracklist on a cover at LostScores blogpost) is 2CD indeed, but it's the complete score as heard in film (including 25 min of (sometimes TERRIBLE) source cues/songs), so didn't contain all the unused/suite material featured in the OST...

So the 1m4 Dirty Cash (Unused), 2m13 Halfaway To Hong Kong (Unused), Interrogating Schiff (Alt intro), Batmobile Chase (well, I should have added it to the bonus as "New Batman Theme", it's actual name, I might change it someday...), End Credits from OST CD 2 & the Joker / Dente / DK suites are from the OST and not in the bootleg... What I basically did here was to compile so sort of ultimate thing... Simple as that...

Agent Smith reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
Hybrid...

heart-attack? Can you give me an heart-attack by saying, that a recording session cd exists for THE THIN RED LINE and THE LAST SAMURAI?

Please, hit mee... HIT MEEE!!!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
There's recording sessions out there for inception and hannibal i hope :)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
More:

...
2M09 WHO APPOINTED BATMAN?
James Newton Howard
2M09 WHO APPOINTED BATMAN? (ALT)

Why is this ALT not listed here?

Also, if Action Ice is the same as New Batman Theme, then which piece is which?

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
Thanks Hybrid. Where is it from?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
I'll tell you Iceboy... :)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
One rec sessions has this listed:

...
7M62 A DARK KNIGHT
Hans Zimmer
103BPM ACTION ICE THEME
Hans Zimmer
HARVEY DENT SUITE
James Newton Howard
NEW BATMAN THEME
Hans Zimmer

If Acton Ice is the same as New Batman Theme, then what gives?

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
Can anyone tell me where Dirty Cash is on the commerial score plzz?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
Yes they are...

I've got the sheet music of TDK and a friend capable of "reading" music, so he confirmed those cues were where I put them !!


As for Batmobile Chase, as I said, I put it there as it sounded it should have been there, but it's not... It's not even an unused cue, it's a theme suite called "New Batman Theme" or "Action Ice Theme v7". If you watch the chase with "Like A Dog Chasing Cars", it just doesn't work ! :P

Damn I sound like Jack Sparrow... :O

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Takehiro reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
> So the 1m4 Dirty Cash (Unused), 2m13 Halfaway To Hong Kong (Unused), Interrogating Schiff (Alt
> intro), Batmobile Chase (well, I should have added it to the bonus as "New Batman Theme", it's actual
> name, I might change it someday...), End Credits from OST CD 2 & the Joker / Dente / DK suites are
> from the OST and not in the bootleg... What I basically did here was to compile so sort of ultimate
> thing... Simple as that...

Wait so Dirty Cash, Interrogating Schiff and Batmobile chase are on the OST?

Is Batmobile Chase in the correct place?

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
I know Hybrid is always hiding something. :)
And I also know how he feels about these bootlegs, I would do the same.
For us "minions" we should be lucky that such bootlegs even exist, and have the rare oportunity to get
our hands on them.

Enough said. Or maybe someone else.

Mark reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-06 00:00:00
Hybrid i think everyone can say what he wants in this website
if Gavin want to share this score with the other is up to him

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-06 00:00:00
"This zone is only to post comment, not to ask for CD downloading, copying or trading !"

Sorry Mark... ;)

Gavin Salkeld - Composer reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-06 00:00:00
Hi. People, I never offered to share it here. I know thats against rules. Hybrid, go back and read my comments. There is nothing there.

All I am offering to do is confirm to people that this is indeed real, once I get it. I dont have it yet, and I have been actually been told not to share it.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-06 00:00:00
Do people need any confirmation ?

I added it to the site 4 months ago, even added extracts myself... I've never fooled anyone on this site ! :P

As for a leak, it's not up to me, sorry... There's nothing I can do from this point... I just know that now, a lot of people have it as well... I'm actually surprised it's not "out" yet... Looks like for once people followed orders... But as always, it'll be all around sooner or later anyway...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-06 00:00:00
So even if it is real there is no chance for us to have it? great....
its like waving a dollar to a hobo yet giving him a few pennies.

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-06 00:00:00
Wow, I didn't know that Satnam worked on this one too

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-06 00:00:00
Have we turned P2P sharing site ?

I don't think so...


Next time Gavin think twice before posting...

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-02 00:00:00
One of the best

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-01 00:00:00
Because the score is soo awesome.

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-01 00:00:00
EVERYONE wants it so badly

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-31 00:00:00
so the never-before-released cues i guess you could say are: 5 Dirty Cash, 9 Who Appointed the Batman?, 10 Move the Money, 11 Kill the Batman, 12 Halfway to Hong Kong, 14 Put a Smile on That Face, 18 A Hero With a Face, 3 The Outcast, 4 I Am the Batman, 5 Truck Convoy, 9 We Gotcha, 13 Harvey Two-Face, 19 Sonar System, and 20 Unlucky Driver, right? (not including cues with extended endings/segments)

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