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Yeah 100% fake... And there was HJ rumor on Black Widow sometimes last year, so if you do the math...Henry doesn't have an official Instagram. It looks like you are referring to the account "henry0262020" which appears to be a fake account, to the best of my knowledge.Henry Jackman is now Black Widow's composer, apparently in his instagram, posted a photoHah! Knew it. FYI, I'm not smoking anything. I don't smoke, and I abhor anyone who does.Oh interesting. When I said "refined his sound," I didn't mean that he was still trying to find his voice. This score absolutely exudes the qualities that make his work so appealing. You simply managed to put what I was trying to say in better terms. I'm definitely happy to give this one more goes in the future, but I remain more partial to some of the other installments.
This is easily my favorite X-Men score, but I do agree there is a bit of an...*odd* feel to it sometimes. The impression I get is that Powell was reeeaallly pushing himself to write the most dense and complex and ambitious score he could, and I think he may have overreached a tad. There's definitely a big contrast between this score and the much tighter, more focused sound he was bringing in his action music from a couple years prior, like Paycheck or The Bourne Supremacy. I wouldn't say he "hadn't quite refined his sound yet" - this isn't Face/Off, his voice was pretty well established by this point - but he was trying to develop it a bit faster than it was naturally going to go.<br><br>At the same time, I love how this score goes for broke, and I hate to fault a composer for too much ambition. "Phoned in" is the LAST thing this score is. But Powell would iron out the kinks and by How to Train Your Dragon he was writing a score that was just as complex, but wore the complexity a bit more naturally than X3."There is nothing musically interesting in [Ottman's] X-Men scores except the main titles."<br><br>As if I didn't need a reminder that this place can house some ludicrous opinions sometimes (no offense intended there).<br><br>The Last Stand barely cracks the top 5 of X-Men scores for me, if only because I love the themes and it carries a lot of nostalgia for me. It's pretty clear imo that this score was at a point when Powell hadn't quite refined his sound yet. I wouldn't call it phoned in whatsoever, but it's easy to get lost at points when I'm listening to the full thing. But the highlights are too great for me to call it middling either, so it barely gets a solid grade in my book. <br><br>I'm likely in the minority when I say I actually prefer Dark Phoenix. It's much more solid as a whole product.I like the tracksWow!!!Still my favorite score from the X-Men series.
Not too stoked on Powell, but the way Ottman's able to squander a good theme makes him close to the bottom of the barrel in my book. There is nothing musically interesting in his X-Men scores except the main titles.I don't know what you're smoking but you need to get off it. In the way is this phoned in, the orchestration and everything about it is perfect. No score for X-men has come close to this one except maybe X2That recording footage makes it all the more baffling to me why the end product sounds the way it does.I understand the comments about the orchestra sounding like samples by some of the comments?<br><br>If you follow his Twitter you see the BBC orchestra recording the soundtrack.Season two is cool and Balfe’s music is bigger that season 1.Bit choirs also.I love Hillbilly also but it sounds very familiar just with different guitar instruments.Paradise is so emotional and sonically more interesting to me at least
I find Hillbilly more engaging than Paradise, even much interesting dramatic cues.Memorial is heart wrenching.<br>Definitely up there for this years scores.Fantastic music but Balfe and Zimmer.You can hear their different styles in this music.<br>Very beautiful soundtrackCouple of interesting things.
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<br>Williams in the film cuesheet seems to have been credited only for "his" cues but never for others' cues (even if they use either old Star Wars music or new JW Solo material) :
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<br>OPENING (JP)
<br>ENFYS STANDOFF (JP)
<br>FAILED HEIST (JP)
<br>KESSEL RUN PT 1 – TIE CHASE A (JW)
<br>KESSEL RUN PT 1 – TIE CHASE B-1 (JP)
<br>KESSEL RUN PT 1 – TIE CHASE C (JW)
<br>KESSEL RUN PT 1 – TIE CHASE D (JP)
<br>KESSEL RUN PT 1 – TIE CHASE E-2 (JP)
<br>KESSEL RUN PT 2 – TIE CHASE F	 (JP)
<br>KESSEL RUN PT 2 – MAW (JP BS)
<br>KESSEL RUN PT 3 – LIFTOFF (JP)
<br>KESSEL RUN PT 4 – LANDING (JP)
<br>L3 & FALCON PT 1 (JP)
<br>L3 & FALCON PT 2 (JP)
<br>L3’S SACRIFICE	 (JP)
<br>SKYPE SHOWDOWN (JP)
<br>CHEWIE UNTAMED PT 1 (JP AW)
<br>CHEWIE UNTAMED PT 3 (JP)
<br>LANDO’S CLOSET (JP AW)
<br>SAVAREEN TENT A (JP)
<br>SAVAREEN TENT B (JP AW)
<br>CORELLIA CHASE (JP BS)
<br>DRYDEN FIGHT (JP AW)
<br>DRYDEN FIGHT PT 2 (JP)
<br>DRYDEN YACHT DUET	 (JP)
<br>ENFYS NEST ARRIVES (JP BS)
<br>MINES PT 1 – HEIST (JP PM)
<br>MINES PT 2 – FINDING COAXIUM (JP)
<br>MINES PT 2 – CONT’D (JP)
<br>MINES PT 3 – BREAK-OUT (JP)
<br>REAL THING DOUBLE CROSS (JP PM)
<br>SPACEPORT (JP AW)
<br>THE BEAST (JP BS)
<br>BECKETT DEPARTS (JP)
<br>BECKETT LEAVES (JP)
<br>BECKETT SHOWDOWN (JP)
<br>CRAWL (JP)
<br>CRAWL (FROM 1M04-05) (JP)
<br>CRAWL (FROM 2M13) (JP)
<br>CRAWL (FROM 4M28) (JP)
<br>CRAWL (FROM 4M30B) (JP)
<br>LANDO (JP)
<br>MAIN ON ENDS (JP)
<br>MAIN ON ENDS (FROM 5M32) (JP)
<br>BACK TO DRYDEN’S (JP)
<br>BLACKMAIL (JP)
<br>BUNK – PROXIMA (JP)
<br>CAMPFIRE (JP)
<br>CONVEYEX PT 1 (JP)
<br>FAMILY STORIES B (JP)
<br>HAN & QI’RA REUNITE (JP)
<br>JUNGLE CANTINA SOURCE (JP)
<br>MEET DRYDEN (JP)
<br>MIMBAN BATTLE PT 2 (JP)
<br>MIMBAN BATTLE PT 3 (JP)
<br>SABACC GAME (JP)
<br>SABACC REMATCH (JP)
<br>SURVEYING CONVEYEX (JP)
<br>TESTING DRYDEN’S PATIENCE (JP)
<br>TO TATOOINE PT 1 (JP)
<br>TRUST NO ONE (JP)
<br>WALK TO DRYDEN’S PT 1 (JP)
<br>WALK TO DRYDEN’S PT 3 (JP)
<br>YACHT PARTY SOURCE (JP)
<br>YOU DON’T KNOW EVERYTHING (JP)
<br>THE HAN SOLO THEME (JW)
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<br>This is what I could find. Some of the cues I couldn't find at all like Family Stories A, Gonna Be A Pilot or To Tatooine Pt 2 probably have all one thing in common : I guess they're 100% credited to JW.
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<br>That cuesheet matches in fact with the credits I posted above that come from JP's team.
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<br>Interestingly, the 2018 Album does credit Williams very specifically on every cue any of his material is used (The % come from the fact Powell & Mounsey are ASCAP, Williams, Willis & Sener are BMI) :
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<br>ADVENTURES OF HAN (HAN SOLO THEME)
<br>JW 100%
<br>MEET HAN										
<br>JP 28% JW 72%
<br>CORELLIA CHASE								
<br>JP 50% JW BS 50%
<br>SPACEPORT									
<br>JP 55% JW AW 45%
<br>FLYING WITH CHEWIE						
<br>JP 48% JW AW 52%
<br>TRAIN HEIST									
<br>JP 92% JW 8%
<br>MARAUDERS ARRIVE							
<br>JP 55% JW BS 45%
<br>CHICKEN IN THE POT							
<br>JP 100%
<br>IS THIS SEAT TAKEN?							
<br>JP 77% JW 23%
<br>L3 & MILLENNIUM FALCON					
<br>JP 86% JW 14%
<br>LANDO’S CLOSET								
<br>JP 100%
<br>MINE MISSION									
<br>JP 98% JW 2%
<br>BREAK OUT					
<br>JP 78% JW 22%
<br>THE GOOD GUY								
<br>JP PM 74% JW AW 26%
<br>REMINISCENCE THERAPY					
<br>JP 30% JW 70%
<br>INTO THE MAW								
<br>JP 47% JW BS 53%
<br>SAVAREEN STAND OFF						
<br>JP 94% JW 6%
<br>GOOD THING YOU WERE LISTENING			
<br>JP 100%
<br>TESTING ALLEGIANCE						
<br>JP 51% JW AW 49%
<br>DICE & ROLL									
<br>JP 65% JW 35%
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<br>It's not unusual to have different credits for an album VS the same music in the film, depends on the deal that was made.
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<br>Also, some incoherences here, like Willis credited for Lando's Closet in the cuesheet but not in the OST for the same track. But you can't take the cuesheet for absolute truth, additionals did a bit more than that, not necessarly credited, cause it's not as significative to program some percs on a track VS writing 90% of it ! :) Like Willis isn't officially credited for L3's Sacrifice (very end of Extra Deluxe Mine Mission) but has it on his website. Same for Batu with L3 & Falcon. So they had more to do than just what they are credited for... :)
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<br>Also, if you want a breakdown of the Deluxe VS 2018 OST :
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<br>THE ADVENTURES OF HAN => SUITE (NOT IN DELUXE)
<br>MEET HAN => 1M1 MEET HAN
<br>CORELLIA CHASE => 1M4-5 CORELLIA CHASE
<br>SPACEPORT => 1M6-7 SPACEPORT
<br>FLYING WITH CHEWIE => 2M13 CHEWIE UNTAMED
<br>TRAIN HEIST => 2M15-16A-B-C DELUXE TRAIN HEIST (FIRST HALF)
<br>MARAUDERS ARRIVE => 2M15-16A-B-C DELUXE TRAIN HEIST (SECOND HALF) (EDITED) (ALT END)
<br>CHICKEN IN THE POT => 3M18S CHICKEN IN THE POT (ALT VOX)
<br>IS THIS SEAT TAKEN ? => 3M25 SABACC GAME
<br>L3 & MILLENNIUM FALCON => 3M26 L3 & MILLENNIUM FALCON
<br>LANDO'S CLOSET => 4M28 LANDO'S CLOSET
<br>MINE MISSION => 4M30B-5M30C-31 EXTRA DELUXE MINE MISSION (FIRST HALF)
<br>BREAK OUT => 4M30B-5M30C-31 EXTRA DELUXE MINE MISSION (SECOND HALF)
<br>THE GOOD GUY => 6M34 SAVAREEN TENT + 6M36-37-38 QI'RA KNOWS A BIT MORE THAN THAT (EDITED) + 6M39-40 DOUBLE-DOUBLE CROSS (EDITED)
<br>REMINISCENCE THERAPY => 5M32-33A-B-C KESSEL RUN IN LESS THAN 12 PARSECS (FIRST HALF)
<br>INTO THE MAW => 5M32-33A-B-C KESSEL RUN IN LESS THAN 12 PARSECS (SECOND HALF)
<br>SAVAREEN STAND-OFF => 6M35 ENFYS' STAND-OFF
<br>GOOD THING YOU WERE LISTENING => 7M43-44-45 MAUL'S CALL – PARTING WAYS (EDITED) (ALT)
<br>TESTING ALLEGIANCE => 6M41-42 DRYDEN'S LONG, LONG FIGHT (EDITED)
<br>DICE & ROLL => 7M47-48 SABACC REMATCH – TO TATOOINEoscar
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Ironclad
Label: Varese Sarabande
Length: 57'21
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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  1. The Magna Carte (4:17)
  2. King John Arrives (2:07)
  3. God Protect Us (1:56)
  4. Mobilizing (1:17)
  5. We Claim This Castle (1:28)
  6. The Art of Naivety (1:53)
  7. The Battle Begins (6:31)
  8. Marshall and Isabel (1:42)
  9. Dilectio (1:34)
  10. Insidiae (3:22)
  11. Hunger Sets In (2:32)
  12. Desparatus (2:54)
  13. Ciminatio (9:24)
  14. No Salvation (1:43)
  15. Concursus (3:34)
  16. The Final Battle (6:54)
  17. Final Resolution (1:45)
  18. Corvus Cantus (2:38)
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Tim reply Replies: 10 || 2011-09-10 15:39:10
look at this ---> h t t p ://hans-zimmer.com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1006

Hans and Lorne are looking for the voice of the Assassin's Creed Revelations Theme Song! It's great thst Lorne is on the franchise dispite it wasn't nessesary to change the composer, in my opinion - Jesper Kyd's stuff is still fantastic :)


Tim2011-09-10 15:41:24
oooops! sorry - that's the correct link
h t t p://www.ujam.com/contests/acrevelations/introduction


Ele2011-09-10 17:02:12
I don't get it. Who will be in charge of composing music? Jesper? Lorne? Hans? Or all of them?


T-Mann0362011-09-10 18:02:57
I think Hans will be providing the themes while Lorne composes the rest of the scores in each track.


Hybrid Soldier2011-09-11 09:33:10
Hans wrote nothing for Assassin's Creed.


Ele2011-09-11 10:54:16
So what is Lorne doing in this project? Composing only main theme, leaving all the music to Jesper? Or there will be some sort of collaboration?


Hybrid Soldier2011-09-11 15:18:03
Lorne wrote the Assassin's Creed - Revelations score.


Jesper had nothing to do with the score either. ;)


T-Mann0362011-09-11 17:03:40
So Hybrid... the Assassin's Creed: Revelations video game score will be composed only by Lorne Balfe, right?


Hybrid Soldier2011-09-11 17:47:15
It's actually already done.

Recorded 3 weeks ago... ;)


Ele2011-09-19 20:55:26
What about this?

topdollarpr.blogspot.com/2011/09/jesper-kyd-scores-assassins -creed.html


Michasz2012-04-19 22:15:36
strings and choral parts ale brilliant! Really good score!

smith reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-17 15:29:26
best score this year! man how i love the violine...

brilliant work here from mr. balfe. hopefully we can hear more from him!

HZ-fan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-29 00:00:00
looking forward to Lorne's next scores -> they will get even better and better ;)

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-26 00:00:00
Great score!

matthew reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-11 00:00:00
wow!!
Ciminatio really sounds like a pure cinema moment!

Meridius reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-10 00:00:00
"final resolution" track makes me happy ... pure glory.

Tim reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-10 00:00:00
this score draws you into medieval. very intense - like Atli did on the Eagle! :)

MK reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-10 00:00:00
Varese has just withdrawn this title and going to release it again on March 10 with higher price. What is this?! I just ordered this from SAE and now they had to cancel it from my order.

al bundy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-10 00:00:00
You can buy it as import from european stores like amazon.de or colosseum.de

Kaya reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-10 00:00:00
My order shipped from Varese but I did pre-order like a month ago. I sent them an email and they said the original delay was because they were waiting on their first shipment from overseas. So my guess is they got their shipment, sold out, realized it cost more then they though to import discs and are bumping the price if that's the case.

dftgm kimik reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-09 00:00:00
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fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-09 00:00:00
Lorne Balfe has something, this kind of thing you don't want to say to keep pleasure... Do continue your collaboration with zimmer. Promising!

Richard reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
First time through: fairly impressed.

Second time through: thoroughly impressed.

Now: can't stop listening. D:

Tim reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
I wanna watch the movie just to see how the score hits the mood of this :)

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
Wow, this is score is so heartfelt and real. Lorne Balfe may end up being the best student Zimmer has ever produced, because this soundtrack is fantastic. I just sat through the entire listen (the leaked version) and it had me, from the eerie vocals to the soothing strings to the quirky instrumentation that beckons Sherlock Holmes. Ironclad is a wonderful listen and all credit must go to Balfe for this one. I will definitely end up buying this one.

Danny G. reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
Got some reminisce of clash of the titians, a bit of sherlock holmes, and some inception in there (the loud horns lol)

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-03 00:00:00
Is this on Amazon US yet?

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-26 00:00:00
Sounds great!
Like Sherlock Holmes mixed with King Arthur .. both in one package. :-)

Richard reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-26 00:00:00
Samples!

www.amazon.co.uk/Ironclad/dp/B004PL91IW/

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-16 00:00:00
Lorne Balfe is talented as hell.

john reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-15 00:00:00
lol. it says that the track has been played recently, because someone else have already clicked on the track to be played on the radio. so you weren't able to request that track. it was also for me a pain in the ___ ^^ but i managed to record those cues from the webradio. i love to hear to those tracks without a break until the cd is out :) can't wait to buy it as the three tracks are really really promising!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-14 00:00:00
doesn't work somehow

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-13 00:00:00
What am I doing wrongley? If I click the links I always get the message "Your request failed. Reason given:
Track recently played (Err#: 609)" ALTHOUGH I've never played it.

gggh reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-09 00:00:00
oh and btw, am I hearing there some 'albanian' folk-melodies? ^^
It's on the medley, not sure which track it is actually.

gggh reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-09 00:00:00
yes now I've heard all the tracks in the webradio and I have to say this is really great.
Sure a bit King Arthur, but why not. But I'm also hearing Inception, those Booom-booooooooooooom.

I'm loving the instruments, especially the violin when it haves it solo, like in Hunger Sets In.

Lorne really is a great great talent, and I'm really looking forward to his new movies, and yes of course to this release here.

Hans did it right to have Lorne in his team. He learned a lot from the boss and now he can put some wonderful music out.

Brave Lorne!!!

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-09 00:00:00
Sounds really cool. I can hear some King Arthur and Pillars. Maybe some Tudors as well. Anyway, it's coming from Lorne, 100 % fun to listen for sure.

Bou reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-08 00:00:00
Badass cover

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-08 00:00:00
FYI Hybrid, I have access to Windows MSN Live Messenger here

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-07 00:00:00
Rango, The Eagle, now Ironclad?? It's a good time to be a Zimmer (and co.) fan!! =D

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