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Great this is geting a release!<br>I am from Greece and the same is Nikos Mastorakis, the director.<br>He always recalls working with Hans Zimmer and Stanley Myers here.Ultimate masterpiece... 8-) lolVery impressed with the music from this season. Enjoying listening to it.there doesnít seem to be much of the main theme used ?man, i think i haven't listened to "A Dark Knight" deep enough. so many things i picked up from listening to it recently. oh by the way, it's Dunkirk that's making me go back and listen to the old scores.One of the most beautiful choral pieces of the 21st C. Mr. Zimmer please make this original London recording available in a cd (320kbps) or a lostless version to be able to enjoy its full beauty. The version on YouTube is just muddy cruddy. And the version on the Prague cd is not a chorus of this caliber. Plz plz plz! Gratefully, Philip
...why is Eric Whitacre's credit being omitted?Music is royal and grand and the show is very good. Looking forward to more seasonsGreat score! Lots of fun.Your Majesty is addictive and could listen to this also day long.Was Theme is last year ?Now, what do you thinnk anout the score?<br><br>There are two things that made me underappreciate the score: first these full credits (upset that perhaps a good track might havenot been written by POwell himself) and the fact that Powell will score Han Solo (expectation that this might be a trial score)<br><br>But,<br><br>"Madrid Finale" is clearly 5 star track, and so many nods to classical era of film score.<br><br>There are 4 themes that i can gather:<br>Ferdinand theme <br>Flower Theme<br>"Caring" theme<br>and "bad guy" theme<br>and all of them are good ( not as powerful as HTTYD though)<br><br>But, i find some action writing to be quite generic ( Anthony B Willis is to blame i guess)<br><br>Suffice to say that this is already a 4 star score because this is as subtle as you can get from hyperactive Powell's animation scores
This score is BRILLIANT.Just started watching this season and the music is spot on especially the Princess Margaret episode. Gregson-Williams and Balfe have create a great score to this season.more intamint and emotional than before@Bob<br><br>Thank you for the enlightment, I will consider opening my wrists for misconduct in the next few days, thank you very much... :o<br><br><br><br>Ok seriously though, you guys should know that if there's one guy that could not care less about awards... it's Hans... :)I am really enjoying his season of the Crown.a big balfe influence in this season with hints of Churchil and Genius I think. Really excellent music/ it's me
@ds "Ramin is also doing a lot of projects but is far, far behind in terms of styles and creativity."<br> <br>I think the same for Jablonsky, Zanelli, XL, Jackman and Mancina.@macejko<br><br>"All the time he acts like the hottest shit in town, refusing to score basically everything they offer him"<br><br>You said in another comment that you never read an interview with Powell, so not reason you take that kind of conclusion of your character.<br><br>"The man hides in a cave, doesn't evolve at all and for some mysterious reason he is still revered like a second coming of Jesus Christ."<br>Powell is a clearly talented composer. He suffered criticism at the beginning of his career by sounding like Zimmer, but soon showed substance. And much more than that created an identifiable style, which today is reference to other scores of modern animations (which may be good or bad to depend on of the point of view).<br>Today he is an established composer and it is common for these composers to move away for a few years or even close their careers without many explanations for the public. In recent years we watched the estrangement of Silvestri, Horner, Williams and in the past we saw Faltemeyer, Bill Conti and Brad Fiedel drop their careers when they were at the top of the game.<br><br>" Say anything you will about Lorne Balfe, but at least he is working his ass off and slowly getting better and better"<br><br>As they said in another comment, you're compared to newbies and veterans. Balfe's having the opportunity of his life now. Take it or leave it. There's no choice. Powell, as well as Zimmer others, on the other hand, is a "senior member" of the club. He can afford to go away for a few years to resolve comprehensible personal problems without affecting the hard work he has developed in the last 20 years. Will Balfe continue to be so creative in 10 or 15 years?<br><br>@ds<br><br>"<br>Powell has nothing to prove, he has already mastered all genres"<br><br>That's funny, but it's fair. Powell Is a good composer. Not the best, far from it. Your style really narrows your work down, but we can say that from all the composers out there. So it's not a problem.The problem is he wants to limit his work to animations and fantasy.because he abhors gratuitous violence.<br><br>@george<br><br>". Although, I hate to say it, we could say the same for Zimmer in my opinion"<br><br>Zimmer's at the end of his career. All the other composers when they arrived at 60 years (with the exception of JNH, Goldsmith and Morricone) reduced the amount of projects per year and went on to choose their work best. It's a natural way.Over the years, it tends to get worse with one exception here and there. Don't keep expectations like he's in his prime<br><br>"he has "nothing more to prove", he is creatively dead."<br><br><br>Powell will work with a little more frequently in the coming years (or not) that only depends on his ambitions. However, frankly, he's never going to do three again. 4.5. 6 projects in a year. It takes a lot of motivation for that.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Just listened to the whole thing, kind of a let down. Nothing interessting except for some action moments. Donít even recall hearing some sort of theme. Overall it was like listening to Cars 4: Spanish World Cup.I have already listened to The Jumanji Overture and I must say it sounds really great. Let's see how the rest of the score sounds.Tracklist with track duration:<br>01. The Jumanji Overture (03:20)<br>02. Digging Up The Past (01:43)<br>03. Brantfort High (01:09)<br>04. Into The Jungle (01:23)<br>05. Out of Character (02:31)<br>06. The Legend of the Jewel (02:23)<br>07. The Adventure Begins (01:40)<br>08. Special Abilities (01:16)<br>09. The Bikers (03:44)<br>10. Van Pelt (01:00)<br>11. A Test Of Friendship (01:22)<br>12. The Bazaar (01:16)<br>13. Snake Charmer (03:41)<br>14. The Power of Bravestone (01:04)<br>15. Seaplane McDonough (02:17)<br>16. The Missing Piece (01:46)<br>17. Lost In Time (01:18)<br>18. Flirting With Danger (01:36)<br>19. Albino Rhinos (03:44)<br>20. Retrieving the Emerald (01:54)<br>21. Out of Lives (01:49)<br>22. First Kiss (01:22)<br>23. The Jaguars (03:03)<br>24. Ring of Fire (02:07)<br>25. Begin The Climb (01:56)<br>26. Call Out Its Name (02:23)<br>27. leaving Jumanji (03:03)<br>28. An Older Friend (02:40)<br>29. Back To School (01:53)
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Additional Music - Conductor
Hans ZimmerHarry Gregson-WilliamsDon HarperJay Rifkin
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicScore Producer
Broken Arrow (Limited)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 115'56
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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CD1
  1. Rope-A-Dope (5:04)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. The Bomber (2:31)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Going To War (6:30)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. The Pentagon (Unused) (1:16)
  5. The Search - Broken Arrow (2:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  6. Desert Dawn (3:40)
    Hans Zimmer
  7. Day Search (1:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  8. Right Down There (3:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  9. Something's Coming (3:50)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  10. 10,000 Years (2:15)
  11. Humvee Chase (4:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  12. Mine Shaft 1 (1:53)
    Hans Zimmer
  13. Mine Shaft 2 (15:49)
    Hans Zimmer
CD2
  1. Big Bang (2:15)
  2. Butterflies (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  3. The Boat - Stowaway (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  4. Breaking Orders (2:18)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  5. Eat A Bullet (2:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  6. Hammerhead (17:04)
    Hans Zimmer
  7. Nuke Disarmed (End Credits) (7:40)
    Hans Zimmer
  8. Brothers (Original Album Version) (7:07)
    Hans Zimmer
  9. Mine (Original Album Version) (5:43)
    Hans Zimmer
  10. Nuke (Original Album Version) (10:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
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MacArthur reply Replies: 4 || 2014-01-13 06:12:58
Is this a good score?

never listened to it.


Anonymous2014-01-13 06:36:40
Watch the movie, then ask....


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-13 08:11:18
It's pretty good. Think classic mid-90s MV action, Drop Zone/The Rock style, with some random Western elements thrown in, mostly some really cool guitar work courtesy of Duane Eddy. "Hammerhead" and "Nuke Disarmed (End Credits)" are between them 25 minutes of solid awesomeness.


Mike2014-01-13 15:08:50
Thanks for bringing this up. Now I have something new to listen to while studying. ;)


Ds2014-01-13 21:26:39
I LOVE this score. Really, its sound makes me really nostalgic. To me, along with The Rock, it's THE ultimate 90s filmmusic. Catchy main themes with guitars, mad synth, fantastic percussions and religious-like choir, it's a good ride. This thread just makes me wanna listen to it again, thanks buddies :p

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 4 || 2011-02-25 00:00:00
Let's go for all the credits I have from Broken Arrow, based on various sources (Ascap, BMI, Gema, promos and websites).
I only listed cues I have credits for, no "wondering" at all. I have all the credits for the Milan edition, the only problem is that they are mixes of separate cues from the Lala edition. Then you cannot tell exactly who did what on each "sub-cue".

It'a bit complicated, read carefully ! =)


1. Rope-a-Dope (aka "Main titles" aka "Brothers") >>> HZ / DH / HGW
2. The Bomber >>> used in "Secure" that is credited to Zimmer alone
3. Going to War >>> used in "Brothers" (credited to HZ/DH/HGW) and "Secure" (HZ alone)
4. The Pentgon (?)
5. The Search - Broken Arrow (?)
6. Desert Dawn >>> used in "Stealth" that is credited HZ / HGW
7. Day Search (?)
8. Right Down There (?)
9. Something's Coming (?)
10. 10,000 Years (?)
11. Humvee Chase >>> used in "Stealth" that is credited HZ / HGW
12. Mine Shaft 1 >>> there's a cue called "Mine Shaft" on BMI credited to HZ alone
13. Mine Shaft 2 >>> used in "Mine" (HZ alone) and "Nuke" (HZ / DH)

01. Big Bang (?)
02. Butterflies >>> used in "Nuke" (HZ / DH)
03. The Boat - Stowaway >>> featured on a DH promo, credited to DH on BMI
04. Breaking Orders >>> credited to DH
05. Eat a Bullet >>> featured on a DH promo & website
06. Hammerhead >>> used in "Greed" and "Hammerhead" both credited to HZ alone
07. End Credits >>> used in "Broken Arrow" credited to Zimmer alone


CruZControL2012-09-27 14:50:28
So, basically, if we also take into account Randy Edelman's "contribution" based on the official credits, the final tracklist goes somewhat like this:

selected tracks:
01. Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams & Don Harper - Rope-A-Dope
02. Hans Zimmer - The Bomber
03. Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams & Don Harper vs Randy Edelman - Going To War / Fire In A Brooklyn Theater
04. Hans Zimmer vs Randy Edelman - The Pentagon
05. Hans Zimmer - The Search / Broken Arrow
06. Hans Zimmer & Harry Gregson-Williams - Desert Dawn
07. Hans Zimmer - Day Search
08. Hans Zimmer - Right Down There
09. Hans Zimmer - Something's Coming
10. Hans Zimmer vs Randy Edelman - 10.000 Years
11. Hans Zimmer & Harry Gregson-Williams - Humvee Chase
12. Hans Zimmer - Mine Shaft 1
13. Hans Zimmer & Don Harper vs Randy Edelman - Mine Shaft 2
14. Hans Zimmer - Big Bang
15. Hans Zimmer & Don Harper - Butterflies
16. Don Harper vs Randy Edelman - The Boat / Stowaway
17. Don Harper vs Randy Edelman - Breaking Orders
18. Don Harper - Eat A Bullet
19. Hans Zimmer vs Randy Edelman - Hammerhead
20. Hans Zimmer - Nuke Disarmed
21. Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams & Don Harper - Brothers
22. Hans Zimmer vs Randy Edelman - Mine
23. Hans Zimmer & Don Harper - Nuke


CruZControL2012-09-27 14:51:48
Nevermind the tracknumbers, forgot to separate the discs. My bad.


Dawn2012-09-28 10:43:00
@CruZControl
Your mistake is to consider that cues with no known credits are by Zimmer alone. I'm pretty sure "The Search" or "Right Down There" are by other composers, based on the style (probably HGW).
By the way, cues like "The Boat - Stowaway" or "Eat a Bullet" were featured on Harper's website and promos, but as it is additional music, you should add Zimmer in the credits too (the same way Humvee Chase was written by HGW based on ideas by HZ, thus having both HZ/HGW credited in it).

And the Randy Edelman "credits" were added 15 years later by Lalaland to avoid legal issues because Zimmer's theme sounded a little bit like a melody in Fire in a Brooklyn Theater. Cues in no way contain Edelman's contribution.


CruZControL2012-09-28 14:21:29
@Dawn
Yeah, I never meant that Edelman actively contributed in this soundtrack, I'm just including his name based on the LLL info, nothing more.

As for the other cues, I'm pretty sure you're right, but since we don't have official confirmation on those, I can't include or remove a composer's name based on a hunch. I was just collecting all the data we've gathered through the years, like Mr.Tweedy and others before me have already done (and to whom I'm grateful).

Btw, in my personal tags, I'm making two further title edits;
(1) "Hammerhead" -> "Hammerhead (Expanded Version)"
so as not to confuse the track with the original release's Hammerhead
(2) "Nuke Disarmed" -> "Broken Arrow"
since this is how it was originally titled.
This is just my personal preference for my tags, don't shoot. I just want to be consistent in my playlists and so on ;)

Peter Jacobs reply Replies: 0 || 2012-06-15 04:52:24
This is by far one of my all time favorites. I came across this score by mistake on La La Land's website and decided to purchase it. So glad I did.

And by the way, the supposed Recording Sessions bootleg isn't better than this. So stick with buying the official release supporting more Zimmer releases.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 7 || 2011-04-25 00:36:42
HS... I haven't stole anything from you. The recording sessions that I have posted isn't a useless bootleg... it's legit. Some of the tracks that I've posted was not available in the original soundtrack, bootlegged score, or the official La-La Land release. Don's suite and theatrical trailers were not in the official releases or bootleg... until now.

As much as I respect you, Hybrid, I have never stolen any of your sources... and HZLeaks was right. He did compile the list as is... including the exclusive Deakin's Theme.


HZLeaks2011-04-25 01:11:03
The DH suite is from a promo but hey, good luck to the general score fan finding that if you dont have this release. Even more so for Deakin's Theme!


T-Mann0362011-04-25 01:26:17
In actuality, I do have the recording sessions. Anyways, thanks HZLeaks for pointing it out.


Per2011-04-25 01:48:58
Deakin's Theme, exclusive ? ... isn't that just the last 4 minutes of "Broken Arrow" (End Credits) !?! ;)


Hybrid Soldier2011-04-25 19:48:40
It IS pointless...

It's not genuine at all, it's just a fan edit... Everything can be found in previously existing OSTs, bootlegs or promos...

T-Mann, for a "RCP fan", you look like you don't know much about RCP bootlegs ! And if you decide to take Takehiro, HZLeaks or whoever's edits as Gospels' Word, then amen to that, but don't feel obliged to "share" here every tracklist you find on FFShrine...

PS : Yeah, as you probably understood, I HATE that ! ;)

PS 2 : Yeah, Deakin's Theme is just an edit of the End Title, so again POINTLESS...


Mr Tweedy2011-04-25 19:59:01
In the "pointless area", I think that adding trailer music + 20th Century Fox Fanfare is reeeeally pointless too ! =)
Adding trailer music can be interesting when it has some links with the music heard in the movie (the Pearl Harbor international trailer music is a good example) but not when it's just stock music for trailers, and not even written by the score composer (or his team members).
In this case, it's just a lazy way to add artificially some more minutes of music that are not even part of the score ! I'm sure that a new "recording session" will pop up with some "Broken Arrow suites" done by some fans...


Anonymous2011-04-26 00:19:04
Trailer music or TV spots or anything related to the film is welcome to me. Its not like someone stuck on bonus tracks from another movie. At any rate the bonus tracks are related to the movie. Its nice to have them round off the album.

And I dont think that to be fan of anything that means you need to be a big head either.


T-Mann0362011-04-26 02:26:56
Yeah... whatever.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-26 00:14:24
Hybrid... all I ever said to you "I respect you", but somehow you don't seem to appreciate... share or no share.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 3 || 2011-04-24 21:11:20
Complete Recording Sessions--

DISC 1

1. 20th Century Fox Fanfare (w. Alfred Newman, ar. Eliot Goldenthal) - 0:22
2. Brothers - 5:02
3. Hangar - 1:52
4. Secured - 0:39
5. Stealth - 6:16
6. Crash - 0:16
7. Pentagon - 1:16
8. No Nukes - 2:41
9. Desert - 3:41
10. Got One - 1:28
11. Canyon - 3:24
12. Chopper - 3:48
13. Fax - 2:14
14. Trucks - 4:53
15. Offroad - 1:51
16. Mine - 18:00
17. Butterflies - 1:56
18. Stowaway - 3:26


DISC 2

1. Orders - 2:16
2. Max - 2:14
3. Hammerhead - 17:03
4. Broken Arrow - 7:33
5. Brothers (Alternate) - 5:04
6. Hangar (Alternate) - 1:51
7. Stealth (Alternate) - 6:17
8. Butterflies (Alternate) - 1:56
9. Suite (Composed by Don Harper) - 3:33
10. End Titles - 7:16
11. Blasphemy (TV Spot, Composed by Immediate Music) - 1:21
12. International Trailer (Composed by John Beal) - 2:21
13. Deakin's Theme - 3:59


Music Composed by
HANS ZIMMER

Additional Music
DON HARPER & HARRY GREGSON-WILLIAMS

Conductors
DON HARPER & BRUCE FOWLER

Orchestrator
LADD McINTOSH

Guitars
DUANE EDDY & BOB DASPIT

Trombone
BRUCE FOWLER

Weird Noises
RYELAND ALLISON

Vocals
LISBETH SCOTT

Score Technical Adviser
SLAMM ANDREWS

Score Mixing Assistant
BRIAN RICHARDS


Hybrid Soldier2011-04-24 21:34:55
What's the point in poisoning the site with useless bootlegs, can you answer that T-Mann ?

It's just an edit of the bootleg, the OST & the LLL...

And most of the alt were stolen from my version...


HZLeaks2011-04-24 23:55:43
Hey, no-one stole anything from you HS, I compiled this myself! And Deakin's Theme is not on any of the boots or the LLL.


Anonymous2011-04-25 00:13:16
I have to say it aint pointless to me. The music on here is clean and unedited with no "whoosh" sounds like on the normal score. And it has both versions of butterflies on there, film version and alternate. If anything the bonus tracks on the LLL release were pointless!! :P

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-02 00:00:00
I felt sorry that Gregson-Williams wasn't credited in the official La-La Land release of Broken Arrow.

fs reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-02 00:00:00
Why is on the back cover and in the liner notes always the info that some tracks "contain music 'fir in a brooklyn theatre' composed by randy edelman". Its actually not anywhere in those marked tracks... maybe a theme has some similiarities but it was very unecessary to to put that text there.

The whole liner notes are a little bit strange...had the feel it was written with hate (imho).

Broken reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-02 00:00:00
found a little sentence in liner notes which has some "answers":

"A final all-purpose action motive is an adaption of Randy Edelman's famous "Fire in a Brooklyn Theater" cue from the film "Come see the Paradise (1990); the piece turned up in countless movie trailers throughout the 90's and is cited on the Broken Arrow cue sheet. Also credited for additional music are Zimmer-regulars Don Harper and Harry Gregson-Williams."

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-02 00:00:00
Kaplan, who wrote the notes, is indeed not exactly Zimmer's greatest fan... So why the hell writing those notes ?

:O

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-08 00:00:00
It's fun that the booklet doesn't credit HGW at all, and Harper only as Conductor...

Even the assistants are credits, but no word about the guys who helped writing the score (!) haha :D

bladerunner reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
I love Harry Gregson-Williams!!!

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
@Nicolas

If you want to put major "new-music-only" cues : "Right Down There", "The Boat - Stowaway" & "Breaking Orders".

If you mostly want to put highlights, no matter if they contain previously released music : "Desert Dawn", "Mine Shaft 2" and "Nuke Disarmed (End Credits)" !

=)

Danny G. reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-06 00:00:00
@ Nicolas - Webmaster
Might I suggest "Hammerhead" "Going To War" & "Humvee Chase"?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-06 00:00:00
Sorry Nico, didn't have quite the time to answer you...

You should definitely put Right Down There, which is totally new (even unofficially)...

Then, I don't really know, it's up to the others... ;)

Nicolas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-06 00:00:00
Which tracks from this cd would you like to have on the webradio ? :) (2-3 tracks)

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-25 00:00:00
Interesting points, Mr Tweedy. "Mine Shaft 1" sounds quite a bit like HG-W to me. Many of his signature synth sounds are present in that track, reminiscent somewhat of Armageddon and Enemy of the State

MrJason reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-24 00:00:00
which tracks did harry gregson williams do?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-24 00:00:00
HGW was credited for the Milan's edition cues Brothers (aka Rope-a-Dope, along with Harper) and Stealth (Desert Dawn + Humvee Chase).
We can't really tell what he did on those cues (full arrangements ? some help here and there ?)

"Right Down There" sounds a lot like Harry's The Replacement Killers action style to me.

I think we'll find more informations soon !

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-22 00:00:00
"I didn't noticed anything else but would need to get through the LLL release fully to see if other things are differents from the Bootleg... :P "

Well, the punch sounds in the End Credits is present on the LLL. To name one thing.

If the Butterflies piece were the reason for them to have the whole Nuke (and Mine for that matter) track included, it would have been much better to simply have the original Butterflies cue without the guitar as a bonus track. Perhaps what's on their release is the only material/mixes they got handed over... Who knows...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-22 00:00:00
Yeah that's what I did Per ! haha :D

Just noticed "The Bomber" in the original 96 release (in "Secure") has some extra guitar over it, and "Going To War" (in "Brothers") has a cool harmonica addition...

And, as mentioned before, "Butterflies" (in "Nuke") does not have the extra guitar added to the LLL release...

I didn't noticed anything else but would need to get through the LLL release fully to see if other things are differents from the Bootleg... :P

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-22 00:00:00
What fabien meant, I believe, is that if you combine this new La-La Land with the unofficial 2CD version, we have pretty much a fully complete score (of what's used in the film anyways)... you know, since this new one have a couple of minor differences (in the mix, mostly, I guess) as to what's heard in the film.

Just received my CD today, so haven't been able to listen through it all yet... But I have noticed a couple of (new) things. When I first saw the tracklist, it was near to (for me) perfect, but I didn't like so much that they seemed to have combined the two shortest tracks into other cues (in track 2+3 CD1). Although I noticed from the timings it actually could fit that they added the short cues at the end, without actually fading them together. But of course, that wouldn't make any sense... But now that I've checked it out, what is it like; just like that ! There's actually almost ! more or less complete silence between the cues. Don't get me wrong, I actually hoped for that, and prefer that ! However, that brings up the obvious question; What's the point ... Why not just placing them in separate tracks in the first place then. It would be, and look, so much better. I can't understand anything other than this had to be a contractual reason for doing so (not having short tracks). But if not, it's certainly a weird decision... and it actually appear a bit amateurish ... but that's just my opinion.

You have the main title music without those punching sounds, as it's already been mentioned (somewhere), and that's good. But the End Credits does have those punch sound effects, like on the original release, unfortunately. They're not in the film though ... And fortunately, not on the unofficial 2CD version either :)

A little correction (or "apology" if you will, lol) of what I've said before about the difference with the content of the original Milan release; Firstly, my excuse for doing this mistake(s) is that I simply haven't listened any particularely to the original release the last few years. At least not after I got the unofficial release. But there is at least a couple of other differences in the mix (other than the punch sounds etc.), which Hybrid Soldier mentioned on the FSM forum. I'll probably have to, and most likely will do so too, compare all versions second by second, lol.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-22 00:00:00
Sorta. Its still not perfect.

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-22 00:00:00
with the 88 min score this is now complete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-18 00:00:00
"Oh and, where have you listened to punching sounds on the broken arrow/end credits cue before?" ->

It's on the original Milan. At least on mine (I have the original '96 US pressing... different content on other issues ?). But it's only for like 10 seconds around 2 min. into the track :)

Zed reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-18 00:00:00
I hope all of Mr. Zimmer's scores get at least close to full releases! There's too much great music in all the films he has done that hasn't been printed onto CD. I have a feeling it may just be starting to happen... I also love to see that there are tracks 15 and 17 mins long. I miss the old style soundtracks he use to release with only 5 to 8 tracks on them, all with long suites of music.

Take care guys and girls and let's look forward to another great year of music from the MASTER!!!

P.S. You may like some of my music at http://www.myspace.com/zaalentallis - love writing bold themes and gutsy tunes. Enjoy!

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-18 00:00:00
Nuke/Mine contains nothing new; in fact, Nuke is a little shorter. I think the bonus tracks were strange choices. They should have hired me to produce the score, I would have done it a bit differently! :P At least they gave us the Butterflies cue without guitar in some form, though.

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Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-17 00:00:00
Interesting, it seems the lalaland team loves to replace some "film version" cues by alternate versions (Broken Arrow, Speed 2...) !
This explains why "Nuke" appears as on the original album version, as it contain "butterflies" as it is heard in the movie...
Iceboy, you can add the "Broken Arrow suite" by Don Harper too, as it contains slightly different arrangements of "The Boat" and "Eat a Bullet" !

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-17 00:00:00
Why do they NEVER get it right? Why cant we have the film music as heard in the film without alternates in amongst it? Put them as bonus tracks, fine, but not with the rest of the score. Id rather alternates be bonus tracks than be in the actual film score section. I am looking forward to the linear notes.

Don Harper's arrangements are the actual basic tracks he composed, before Zimmer added stuff to them to make the film versions.

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