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Formality indeed. Complicated ! lol<br><br>You can bet Blake Neely didn't need anyone to "write" those 10 seconds !! lolI always found these credits to be a bit confusing. Klaus Badelt is credited on almost every cue, even when his themes don't appear and another additional composer is credited as well. I thought maybe it was just a formality that Zimmer and Badelt were credited everywhere (I mean, how much could they be involved on a cue like "Welcome to the Caribbean"?), but then "No real ship" and "Sword Fight Pt. 2" have no Badelt for some reason. Does someone know a bit more about this?well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon<br>"It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain."<br><br>I didn't think it was possible for a Bay fan of all people to be this insufferably pretentious.<br><br>I thought that was more Snyder fanboy territory.<br><br>But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br><br>Kudos, man.  Kudos.<br><br>You can hide behind however many fallacies you want.  If "Not to me" and "You do you" didn't give it away early on in this thread, I DIDN'T try to treat my opinions as fact.<br><br>But that doesn't mean I'm going to add a little "IMO" at the end of every goddamn sentence just to coddle you. <br><br>On the flip-side, consistently making appeals to authority and popularity, "B-b-but Spielberg said!", "B-b-but the Forbes poll said!" don't make you objective.<br><br>Y'know, it's funny.  When I listed off better blockbuster examples, you could've very easily just argued against them on the level of the films themselves, and everything would've been fine.<br><br>Sure, you would've just claimed you can't see the action at night sooner, which is rich when you praise the film series that puts the subjects of its action scenes OUT OF FOCUS every other shot, but hey, that's just honest opinions versus honest opinions.<br><br>But using two belated half-assed sequels from different, less talented directors that lost most of the appeal of the first movies, as some sorta litmus test for how well-liked the first movies were, is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard.  That's not objectivity, that's not even confusing correlation with causation, that's saying 1+2=4.<br><br>That's the real joke here.  Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact.  I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here.  It's psychotic.<br><br>Bad movies make money.  Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.  But if that's the kinda road you wanna go down, I guess movies like Avatar, The Force Awakens, or all the Avengers movies, are "objectively" better movies in every conceivable way than anything Bay has made in his entire career.  I mean, CLEARLY those films must have a bolder style and push more boundaries.<br><br>Why else would more people watch and rewatch them, right?<br><br>Reasonable causation is for those goshdarn geek journos.<br><br>And by the way, The Last Knight lost money.  Period.  Almost 100M according to Paramount themselves.<br><br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br><br>Have a nice day.Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br>==================<br><br>Kinda ironic, coming from you....but I'll take it as a compliment. Thank you! <br><br>And yes, he sides with me because what I say is common sense. For whatever reason, you have these strong negative feelings toward Bay films and those feelings blind you to some pretty obvious truths. <br><br>Have to say tho - for a 'hater' you sure know A LOT about him, his style and his movies. <br><br>Just admit it - you are a huge Bay fan but you just want to score some points with the snobbish internet crowd. <br><br><br><br>============<br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br>============<br><br>Oh, you're one of THOSE people......"Fury Roaaaaaaaaad is DA BEST FILM EVAAAAAAAA".<br><br>Let me guess: you also think that Nolan is the greatest director/person of all time. On par with Jesus himself. <br><br><br><br>==========<br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br>==========<br><br>Which is what Transformers 1 is. <br><br>Which is why the movie connected with audiences. It was - at its heart - a story about a boy and his car. Even the most jaded critics enjoyed that aspect.<br><br><br>=============<br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br>=============<br><br>Excuse? For what?<br><br>My friend, you do realize that Bay in particular is one of the most powerful and successful filmmakers of all time, right? He is the second highest-grossing director of all time (domestically), only behind Spielberg. You can dismiss box office success all you want but you don't get to where Bay is if you're not good at your job. <br><br>Snyder is nowhere near Bay, in terms of success and influence. Personally, I don't care much about him. <br><br><br>P.S. Guy Ritchie (and Edgar Wright) are huge Bay fans. Ask yourself why. <br><br><br>===============<br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole<br>===============<br><br>Your opinion.<br><br>I disagree.
Bay walks the lines between being self-serious and comical, but his films aren't well=written enough to serve the former, or witty enough to serve the latter, and the end-result is droll and annoying.<br>====================<br><br>You sure you're not a "writer" for one of those ridiculous geek sites like Collider, Screen Rant or Slash Film? Because you sound a lot like one of those "beloved" writers. <br><br>Anyway......Yes, Bay's movies always walk that line but whether that works or not is........Yes! a matter of opinion. For me, Pain and Gain is one of the best modern satires while for you it is - I'm guessing - "droll and annoying".<br><br>It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain. <br><br>Some of you folks are indeed very hard to please. <br><br><br>===============<br>The first POTC earns it. The Bad Boys 2 doesn't. Infinity War earns it. TF 1/2/3/4/5 doesn't.<br>==============<br><br>Okay, now that statement is the best joke of the year! Thank you for the good laugh! Really! Oh, and I've definitely argued with you before, my friend. You are clearly one of those ten Bay haters from the IMDb forums who claim to hate everything the man does, yet they have seen EVERYTHING he had done. Why is that, I wonder?<br><br><br>===========<br>Fitting, as Synder and Bay are cut from a very similar cloth. Difference is, unless we're talking Man of Steel, I'd sooner rely on Snyder for consistently good action sequences<br>===========<br><br>Well, I would trust Spielberg on this. Because it was Spielberg who said, and I quote: "Michael (Bay) is one of the greatest action directors. He has the best eye in Hollywood." Spielberg works with a lot of directors. But he never said anything like that about any other director. So clearly he means what he says about Bay. And....you know......unlike most people, Speilberg actually knows a thing or two about filmmaking. <br><br><br>================<br>300 didn't try to start a franchise. It was a one-off adaptation of a graphic novel in the same vein as Sin City, and was successful. They tried to make a cash-grab sequel almost a decade later, without Snyder, and it failed. That's hardly the first film's fault.<br>================<br><br>It is a clear proof that people weren't that excited to visit this world again. And mind you, that happened with the first sequel! Talk about a one-time thing, huh?<br><br>At the same time, Bay made FOUR Transformers movies - with different casts - before there were any signs of audience fatigue. <br><br>That speaks for itself.<br><br>===========<br>Pacific Rim suffered from lackluster marketing, and yet still managed to turn a profit and attract a strong following.<br>==========<br><br>Excuses, excuses, excuses.....So you can display all the excuses in the world for Pac Rim but when it comes to Transformers, you don't accept anything. <br><br>Double standard much?<br><br>P.S. That "strong following" is on the internet. The same following that was supposed to make Scott Pillgrim a huge hit. Everyone knows that internet hype is not real-world hype. I know very well the type of people who act as if Pac Rim is the best thing since sliced bread. Total geeks who are angry that Transformers is much more popular and much more successful than Del Toro's "let's shoot all the robot fights in pitch black so audiences can't see shit" movie.  <br><br>Also, let's not pretend that Pac Rim is a universally beloved film. You know very well that there are A LOT of detractors as well. That's what you get when people can't tell what's going on during the movie because you shot it all at night. Just like that Godzilla movie. <br><br><br>============<br>Versus something like Transformers, which has piggybacked on an established IP, relentless marketing campaigns and tie-ins, and a fairly consistent release schedule. And even then, recycling the same bullshit eventually took its toll.<br>============<br><br><br>Wrong.<br><br>Do you read Forbes? You should. Because it's a place where objective people write. It ain't a stupid militant film geek site like Ain't it Cool News or Screen Rant.<br><br>Forbes published multiple articles explaining in great detail why the Transformers movies were successful EXACTLY because they were directed by Bay. Whether you like it or not, my friend, Bay is a brand. He is an auteur. There were multiple polls before the first two Transformers movies and Bay being the director was one of the main reasons for people to watch the movies. <br><br>But I guess you missed all of that, huh?<br><br>How convenient.<br><br><br>==============<br>Friendly reminder that AoE also relied on China (more pathetically then even Pacific Rim did) to compensate for diminishing domestic returns. To say nothing of TLK outright bombing.<br>==============<br><br>First: according to ACTUAL real data, the only TF movie that was saved by China is.......Bumblebee! Yeah, you better believe it. Go to Deadline and Forbes and read it for yourself.<br><br>Second: TLK bombed domestically, yes. <br>But not internationally. No one with actual knowledge of the situation refers to that movie as an international "bomb". Besides, there were 4 super successful TF movies before TLK. So Bay got nothing to prove. He already created one of the biggfest film franchises in history. <br><br>How many directors can say that?<br><br><br><br>==================<br>I know you like debunking Bay naysayers with "facts and logic," but it helps to not be grossly disingenuous while doing it<br>==================<br><br><br>Goes both ways, my friend. But unlike most naysayers, I don't treat my own personal opinions as facts. And if I'm being "disingenuous" then I don't even know what to say about some Bay haters who refuse to accept even the most obvious facts and truths.nopeYou realize there is a very easy and free method to get the music from that site, dont you?Random thought but this got me thinking about Zanelli's history with fantasy.<br><br>Whatever happened to his score for Delgo?  I know it's been accused of being super derivative of his other works anyways but still, it's weird to see a RCP score just drop off the face of the Earth like that.There's just something really charming about seeing a prototype for a famous future theme showing up in an old score.<br><br>Or in PotC's case, SCORES.
The only ones I've seen properly confirmed are the cues Badelt had listed on his website. The issue with everything else is that there's certain themes that's been associated with certain people, but aren't credited for every appearance. Not to mention that I've never really seen much official credits elsewhere, so I take any that I've seen with a grain of salt.This comment was made before that was properly confirmed, so he was likely going to do it solo at the time.I thought Hans was collaborating with Faltermayer For Top Gun 2From both ASCAP and GEMACan these be accessed anywhere?
The dream is collapsing... :oHoly f*ck, just listened to "Too Many Notes..." and its containing pirates theme itself from Pirates of the caribbean'No Good About Goodbye' was never the intended song for QOS. It was composed after the film was completed using thematic material from the film for Shirley Bassey to perform on her, David Arnold produced album, 'The Performance'Those files are just sitting there.<br><br>Undownloadable.<br><br>Taunting me.@Ds<br>Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br><br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br><br>I already discussed 300 and Pacific Rim.  Clearly deep scripts aren't what I'm aiming for here when I talk about good blockbusters.<br><br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br><br>300's a great example of this, though unfortunately a lot of Snyder's other work isn't, and Bay is close behind.  Their films get bogged with way too much obnoxious bullshit to make the odd sequence worth it.<br><br>The Scorponok sequence from TF1, the warehouse fight from BvS, that's real standout stuff.  Stuff that loses a lot of its luster when surrounded by two-and-a-half, or god forbid THREE, hours of self-serious pretense, lazy humor, and/or annoying characters.<br><br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br><br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole, and need to learn to consolidate their efforts into something that brings out their best and subdues their worst.  Snyder in particular has SERIOUSLY misjudged where his talent is lately.
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - On Stranger Tides
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 77'36 (Score: 45'01)
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  1. Guilty Of Being Innocent Of Being Jack Sparrow (1:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  2. Angelica (4:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Eduardo Cruz feat. Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  3. Mutiny (2:48) *
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  4. The Pirate That Should Not Be (3:55)
    Rodrigo Y Gabriela, Hans Zimmer
  5. Mermaids (8:05)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Eric Whitacre
  6. South Of Heaven's Chanting Mermaids (5:48)
    Rodrigo Y Gabriela, Hans Zimmer
  7. Palm Tree Escape (3:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli feat. Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  8. Blackbeard (5:05) *
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  9. Angry And Dead Again (5:33)
    Rodrigo Y Gabriela, Hans Zimmer
  10. On Stranger Tides (2:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Eric Whitacre
  11. End Credits (1:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  12. Guilty Of Being Innocent Of Being Jack Sparrow Remixed - DJ Earworm (2:45)
  13. Angelica (Grant Us Peace) Remixed - Ki:Theory (3:08)
  14. The Pirate That Should Not Be Remixed - Photek (6:26)
  15. Blackbeard Remixed - Super Smash Bros & Thieves (5:26)
  16. South Of Heaven's Chanting Mermaids Remixed - Paper Diamond (3:32)
  17. Palm Tree Escape Remixed - Adam Freeland (5:28)
  18. Angry And Dead Again Remixed - Static Avenger (5:49)
* Contains themes from POTC 1 written by Klaus Badelt
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JS reply Replies: 2 || 2011-05-06 07:26:08
Apparently, a lot of the soundtrack can be heard in this clip, plus a couple of recording sessions towards the end!

http ://www. youtube. com/ watch?v=SDYussM8EOM&


Ed2011-05-06 13:52:25
:O Themes for mermaids sound very good :)


Ds2011-05-06 16:00:01
In the end we can hear the beginning of the theme of lord becket's death. Is it just an alternate version of the POTC3 theme, or Is it In the new soundtrack? What do you think?

Ed reply Replies: 3 || 2011-05-06 13:31:42
A friend told me that ir now aviable to download in some fan pages! :O I'm searching...!!!


Marco Antonio2011-05-06 13:39:27
waw thanks cu do not know what a pleasure if you put the download for the soundtrack =D


Ed2011-05-06 13:50:48
I think it must be a leak... I'm waiting for my friend because i can't find it on the internet... :(


Marco Antonio2011-05-06 14:10:02
Do not worry we all wait for your friend xD I hope you put it as soon as possible! ;)

Anonymous reply Replies: 12 || 2011-05-04 18:44:49
theres a 2cd demos from recording sessions score leaked already, came out in march :P


Marco Antonio2011-05-04 20:27:26
There is an address you could send? You'll be very grateful !!! ;)


Anonymous2011-05-04 23:15:39
no, i do not have them :( maybe its just a rumor, no?


Sparrow2011-05-05 03:37:32
No rumor. Don't have it but heard it and let me just say for demos it sounds fantastic. Near finished quality... the soundtrack will sure miss a lot of great music.


Uga2011-05-05 03:54:10
If a recording sessions leaked, I'm sure more people would know about it and it would be posted on some other websites where such bootlegs would surface.


Anonymous2011-05-05 07:09:47
haha and risk huge legal troubles? i think not. people have rare stuff all the time they are not allow to share or share. me included


Anonymous2011-05-05 08:40:06
Usually I tend to find expanded scores quite boring except Zimmer albums since he always seem to leave the coolest action tracks of the commercial CD. Which is a shame...

I hope they do a deluxe version of the soundtrack later or that the recording sessions leak.


Takehiro2011-05-05 09:07:29
Yeah, sometimes I am OK with a commercial CD but when I really love a score or the film it is from, I will only listen to the expanded version.


Hybrid Soldier2011-05-05 12:12:17
Uga, careful, there's quite a big difference between recording sessions & synth mock-ups... ;)


Uga2011-05-05 13:22:17
Maybe the word "leaked" shouldn't have been used by anonymous. That word could be misinterpreted imo


D A R T H2011-05-05 15:39:14
there are a lot of critics about the short score part and the 7 bad remixes, maybe the leaks are from remote control...^_^


Anonymous2011-05-05 18:19:56
what is wrong using leaked? if members of the public have it, then it has leaked :)


Uga2011-05-06 00:09:43
Alright, but it would be nice to hear it all of course ;)

PJ2 reply Replies: 1 || 2011-05-05 22:43:11
It's official, duration of the movie: 2h21. Duration of the soundtrack: 45min. It's a lot of unused material!


Kusi2011-05-05 23:13:11
Sorry, but that's like every time.. :( The oldest example would be <<The Lion King>> - Why Disney never released an expanded or a complete score?

Takehiro reply Replies: 2 || 2011-05-05 08:13:18
Hans Zimmer seemingly hasn't scored a lot of this. Most of the credits go to Matthew Margeson, who isnt even listed here.


Hybrid Soldier2011-05-05 12:12:43
"Isn't even listed here"

Are you just blind ?


Anonymous2011-05-05 18:06:39
no need to be rude, jerk. maybe he just didnt see it - new layout and all!

karloff reply Replies: 1 || 2011-04-15 00:00:00
Oh FYI to add to Sean's query....Considering we now know that Hans is using a trumpet player from the Rango score, and he is using Spanish guitaristas, I'm thinking (and to my horror dreading) that this score is going to sound comparable to Silvestri's "The Mexican" score, but with the Jack Sparrow beat....which I really hope it doesn't. That just doesn't seem to blend well......but thats just me.


Jay2011-05-05 03:34:05
Rodrigo y Gabriela are amazing. Check out their stuff. It'll fit the movie especially since about the fountain of youth.

Matthew reply Replies: 9 || 2011-05-04 08:26:14
Anybody seen the clip from the film where Jack escapes, anyway its got a great memorable piece that of course wont have made the album, I can't believe how this one is taken up with over 30mins of just terrible sounding remixes.


Hybrid Soldier2011-05-04 11:53:56
Mickey style !


Evangeline2011-05-04 16:18:44
I saw it over a thousand times yesterday and was so mezmerized by the music. It sounded so much of the first track "Guilty of Being Innoncent of Being Jack Sparrow" *shrugs*

I noticed that if you split the name into two it says:

"Guilty of Being Innoncent"
"Innoncent of Being Jack Sparrow"

I just thought that was cool; something Jack would definitely say to confuse anyone. :)


Marco Antonio2011-05-04 16:19:11
that is, are you saying that is not in the cd ??
but when jack runs track, is in the cd ??


Evangeline2011-05-04 16:23:04
I believe it is in track one, love. It sounds similar...

Eva


MArco Antonio2011-05-04 16:40:45
thanks eva, you are how angelica ... full of news xD
Marco Antonio


Evangeline2011-05-04 18:46:10
@MArco What do you mean by that?...she asks nicely. :)

Eva


Marco Antonio2011-05-04 20:31:37
Eva'm just saying that you are full of news! &#249;.&#249;


Marco Antonio2011-05-04 20:31:37
Eva'm just saying that you are full of news! &#249;.&#249;


Evangeline2011-05-04 22:31:38
Thank you, love, I do research A LOT on my free time! &#58389; If there is anything else you need, just ask!

Eva

Michael reply Replies: 2 || 2011-05-04 19:40:06
Here in the Netherlands the cd will be released the 13th. Don't get why other countries have to wait till the 17th?


Phil B2011-05-04 20:24:08
on iTunes the release date is also the 13th


Marco Antonio2011-05-04 20:34:25
Hello Michael ... justleave in your country ,could you give the track a preview of your album ?! Thanks =D

Evangeline reply Replies: 6 || 2011-05-01 01:40:41
The Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides soundtrack is fresh, unique, ethereal, and very different than the other three because of the Hispanic vibe Rodrigo y Gabriela give it. Being Hispanic myself, and Gypsy, I utterly and completely love this album because it takes away all the old and brings in a new tone for our mundane lives. My absolute favorite track thus far is "Angelica", but it most likely will change once I buy the album on iTunes. The guitar in that track is just mezmerizing and being a writer I enjoy visualizing my own scenes with Captain Jack, and I most definitely see him dancing away with some exotic nomad...just saying. Anyway, as for the remixes, I believe they are great to my ears, considering I truly don't like techno, but giving these a try I came to disagree with my last comment. This movie is supposedly a movie Johnny Depp wanted to make as a "thank you" to his admirers and because he feels like he owes us, for he believes that the last two had too many subplots and I sort of agree with him. Overall, this soundtrack is just a fresh start for what they are going to bring next in Pirates 5 and I think it's just absolutely breathtaking. We should appreciate Hans Zimmer for trying out new things....

Eva


Phil B2011-05-01 08:23:16
yeah, in most things, what you've said I also agree...


D A R T H2011-05-01 15:30:04
and for the remixes ? :-|


Micah2011-05-01 15:43:20
I'd rather have 7 remixes with the score than 45 minutes of score and no remixes.


Feliz Lombriz2011-05-02 02:37:30
I agree with you for the most part, Evangeline. Rodrigo y Gabriela are great, and I hope they work well in the film. What I'm disappointed about is that (as far as I've heard from the samples) Rodrigo y Gabriela's tracks aren't more incorporated with Zimmer's style. The final track, for example, blends them together and sounds excellent.

As it is, we get about 30 minutes of classic Zimmer Pirates score and 15 minutes of RyG tracks that could just as well be extras from their album 11:11. Good stuff, but not as Pirate-y as it could've been. Disappointing. :/


MIchael2011-05-02 08:57:08
@ Feliz Lombriz

I suggest you listen to the full song Angelica:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8DCWrhn4N0

it's much better as just the preview, and especially near the end it gets real Zimmery. Don't give up hope ;)


Evangeline2011-05-04 16:21:47
Well...we are all intitled to our own opinion. I'm just someone who enjoys differences. Can May 17 come any slower? I can't wait to get this album!

Eva

Michael reply Replies: 1 || 2011-05-04 11:43:46
The clip of Jack escaping the palace in London:

http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=T72XZEPO5VE

Music sounds great, old and trusted. I like the small detail of flute and that theme from Cutler Beckett from the unreleased suites!


Marco Antonio2011-05-04 16:20:45
but the track it is in the soundtrack ??

ShokColla reply Replies: 2 || 2011-05-01 18:48:48
I wish I could agree with most of the folks who are 100% interested with this score, and I understand it if Zimmer wanted to kind of take a back seat on this one since its his 4th ride and gets others to flesh out the score for him (i admit the man really broke his back with part 3 - that was just too epic)

but sorry...a cd with only 40 minutes of score - nay - try 20 of score and 20 of solor guitar pieces - this doesn't exactly do it for me.


All I can say is I hope Itunes has a single song purchase option, because im not wasting my money on all those other tracks and remixes....


herontronic2011-05-02 16:36:54
I think, with PotC2-3 everything is said (=composed) about pirates. Now, he only could give it a new direction (spanish elements), but it would have been a mistake, if he tried to make the last one (PotC3) better. So, the score only could get worse than the former ones, because we have been spoiled!


shokcolla2011-05-02 18:25:28
Thats exactly the problem - that Hans perhaps thought that parts 2 and 3 were pretty much it for him. Therefore he's really got nothing to add to this, and I can see. Outside of maybe Blackbeard's theme, the rest pretty much sounds like rehashes of old themes.

But that doesn't bother me. Nor does Rodrigo and Gabriel doing their thing during one of his score tracks.

Its the fact that they have 4 minute suites of solos while Zimmer gets 2 minute cues at best. The rest are Dj remixes of said tracks.

That bothers me.

Micah reply Replies: 1 || 2011-05-01 20:05:22
It may be a short score, but it's only 5 minutes shorter than DMC and 10 minutes shorter than AWE.


Micah2011-05-02 01:16:58
And it's longer than COTBP's soundtrack, surprisingly. I guess the real problem is the guitar tracks.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
Disney did it again...

REMIXES...


That totally suck !


JohnnyQ2011-04-28 21:02:50
Yeah They Suck!!!!


Adrian2011-04-28 21:15:48
Indeed - these are BAD remixes too.
One could argue that Tiësto's remix was bearable, but these... It's like they said 'dudes, we need additional cheap 30 minutes, you've got 1 hour'.


Micah2011-04-28 21:52:58
Ugh, Tiesto was in no way bearable.


Uga2011-04-29 03:44:36
Who wants remixes when they buy a soundtrack? Does disney think it's more kid friendly or something? I can tell you they aren't going to be making more money with remixes. Complete or near complete scores would be more acceptable as 18 tracks than this garbage we're getting. I mean the score itself will be alright, but half of this is just crap we won't even hear in the film.


Cloud2011-04-30 02:15:35
I'm not buying this abomination of an album no matter what. The score is fine, I even like all the guitar work, but 30 mins of friggin remixes? REALLY?! I honestly hope this wasn't Hans' decision, because if he doesn't accept the fact that this is an atrocity, a total gang rape of an otherwise (hopefully) enjoyable score album, then I'm seriously losing respect for the guy. Sheesh, and I thought Tiesto's 'creation' for Dead Man's Chest was already too much...


Michael2011-04-30 13:34:59
@ Cloud

Disney wanted remixes. I hope they'll learn it's a HUGE mistake and won't give us this crap next time.

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-30 11:44:49
Wow, Angelica sounds amazing!!! Now I really can't wait for the other complete tracks! I keep pushing the replay button

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-30 10:33:31
angelica :

http:// www.spinner.com/2011/04/29/hans-zimmer-rodrigo-y-gabriela-pi rates-of-the-caribbean/

Micah reply Replies: 1 || 2011-04-29 22:36:18
http://www.spinner.com/2011/04/29/hans-zimmer-rodrigo-y-gabr iela-pirates-of-the-caribbean/

Full Angelica song premiere! :D


Jasper2011-04-30 00:41:01
Thanks! I actually think it sounds pretty awesome.

Ravi Krishna reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-29 07:11:56
Can only hope that they come up with a Deluxe Edition or something with more score, like TRON Legacy had. There's almost certain to be a ton of amazing action music missing here. Apart from that, I like what I heard of the clips. "He's A Pirate" with guitar flavouring is especially cool.

Renewed reply Replies: 2 || 2011-04-29 04:58:22
Amazon and iTunes samples combined, and uploaded in GOOD quality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ue5CIlJmtY

Enjoy.



Renewed2011-04-29 05:07:23
My thoughts incidently... I actually quite like the new Spanish pieces. They were quite a surprise, but I think they'll grow on people after a while.

My favorite tracks though are the Hans Zimmer stuff. Palm Tree Escape is probably my favorite, I really wasn't expecting it to build into the DMC Jack theme. Took me by surprise, but in a good way.

The score overall from what I've heard reminds me a lot of the first and second movies. I think the action music has the wild energy and fun of the first.

The first remix is sorta catchy, the rest are forgettable.


Michael2011-04-29 07:10:13
Much better, you're recordings. Thanks! Hearing the 2 previews combined makes it alot better! And indeed, the RyG parts sound better and better every time I hear them. It's new, getting used to it. Though there must be ALOT of music in the movie we can't hear on a cd. Hopefully Hans will release a gigantic full recordings cd of all the potc's.

Dom reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-29 04:22:19
highly unlikely but could there be a chance, since this version only has 15 tracks, and is slightly out of order: http://www .amazon.de/Pirates-Caribbean-Stranger-Hans-Zimmer/dp/B004R2H GOA/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_4]Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides: Hans Zimmer: Amazon.de: Musik
I'd like to think that maybe this is another edition where we get more of the score, I doubt it, but it would make some sense why there'd be 2 versions o.O

Michael reply Replies: 1 || 2011-04-28 21:30:54
I recorded the themes from both amazon and iTunes (not great quality and posted them on youtube. Here are the previews from iTunes:

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Lx7aKiokM


Feliz Lombriz2011-04-28 22:49:23
I couldn't find the iTunes samples. Are they up for a specific country?

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-28 21:29:08
The preview samples on iTunes are much better! Very beautiful and powerful theme in 'On Stranger Tides' ! Much better, gives me more hope for the entire tracks.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-28 21:13:17

Hey guys,
I also believe that seven remixes are nothing but waste of
cd space.
one question...did Rodrigo y Gabriella write three cues on their own or
are they just credited as performers.
There are different lists on the net....
thanks in advance!!!

Feliz Lombriz reply Replies: 9 || 2011-04-28 10:02:13
Listened to the samples. Yeah, expectations for this release just plummeted. We can't hear enough of Zimmer's score to really judge yet, but I did some math:
-34 minutes of remix to 45 minutes of original score.
-If you don't include the solo tracks by Rodrigo y Gabriella it becomes less than 30 minutes of original score.

4 more minutes of remix than original score. Those better be good remixes.


Alex2011-04-28 10:22:42
Where are these samples exactly ?


Andrew2011-04-28 10:24:42
Alex, check Amazon.de:

http://www.amazon.de/dp/B004Y0RU0A/


Hybrid Soldier2011-04-28 10:47:37
Feliz, you want it or not, the Rodrigo y Gabriela stuff are part of the score ! ;)


Phil B2011-04-28 11:07:39
very disappointing....

but let us wait for the full songs...


Evenstar2011-04-28 11:28:05
i don't like it either... same themes just recycled (like in "Rango").

:(


PJ22011-04-28 11:40:56
As Evenstar said, it's seem to be recycle of Rango, and previous pirates. And 45minutes of soundtrack it's a shame, especially followed by those hawfull remixes.


Ds2011-04-28 18:31:39
You don't know if there are "solo tracks by Rodrigo&Gabriela", 30sec preview isn't representative of 5min music!


Michael2011-04-28 20:03:04
@ DS

Yes, they are solo tracks by Rodrigo y Gabriela. It doesn't say they were made by Hans Zimmer & Rodrigo y Gabriela, just their names.

The pieces Hans made and made with RyG are the best. So far the solo's don't seem very promising. The Remixes are the worst thing in the world.


Jaynufire2011-04-28 20:48:47
Im going to have to agree with Pete Postlethwaite on this one..."I was diss...dissa...dissapointed!"...

...But I am willing to bet all the potentially great thematic stuff will be in the film and NOT on the soundtrack...(sad face)

Micah reply Replies: 1 || 2011-04-28 04:04:02
You can hear an unreleased clip from the soundtrack on the newest Disney Channel Movie Surfer featurette. It sounds like it could be Blackbeard's theme.


Ds2011-04-28 18:45:45
Can you post a link?

HZ-fan reply Replies: 2 || 2011-04-28 15:28:36
on iTunes store, there the track samples are a little bit different to the one on amazon...

but even not good (better) enough xD


Micah Garnett2011-04-28 16:02:09
link?


Ds2011-04-28 18:28:01
On the Belgium iTunes store samples are available! Album will be released on may 13th!

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-28 17:07:38
Dissapointed indeed. The tracks form Hans are awesome, but almost everything is re-used from the earlier tracks, only played with different instruments. 'Mermaids' is cool, with that small AWE theme re-used. 'Blackbeard' is not that thematic (as Davy Jones for example), but the instruments you hear give it a nice touch. 'On Stranger Tides' not much thematic also, but again the way it is performed makes it beautiful. The Rodrigo y Gabriela tracks don't seem to be very thematic and only filling things up, not excited. I coudln't even finish the remixes so bad. I really hope they posted the worst 30 secons, and everything else is awesome. High hopes, low expectations.

d a r t h reply Replies: 3 || 2011-04-28 15:15:54
7 remixes ? 7 !!! No no Nooooooooooooo !!!!

what a shame....


d a r t h2011-04-28 15:24:16
7 remixes directly for the trash and only 45mn of score for a total of 77mn...


Phil B2011-04-28 15:33:40
but for what do they add so much remixes, they could also leave them or???

don't understand that !!


Evenstar2011-04-28 15:57:27
it's all about money ;-)

Phil B reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-28 15:23:08
i've preordered it on amazon and was looking forward to hear it....
now i'm a little bit disappointed...:)

i've really expected something else...:)

nevertheless i have it xD

Zimmerito reply Replies: 3 || 2011-04-28 14:39:08
This realease makes Dead Man's Chest a masterpiece.

Great to see the ethereal motive form POTC3 in "mermaids "anyway.


peter112011-04-28 15:01:32
Just had a listen to the samples and I gotta say this time they've gone way too far. Finally a full disc but over 30 mins of horrible sounding remixes and barely any zimmer.

I'm gonna once again hate seeing the movie and finding out how much awesome music that wont be on the disc.

HONESTLY the recording sessions for these 4 scores have to be out there somewhere!!


Micah2011-04-28 15:15:34
Dead Man's Chest was a travesty. They left out every single good part of the score (Arrival at Isla Cruces, Escape from Cannibal Island, The first Kraken attack).

I'm not gonna listen to the clips until I get the album, but I really hope this isn't the cast with OST.


Zimmerito2011-04-28 15:23:07
I don't think zimmer can put more music in this cd without co-credit someone else in the cover. I think Zimmer worked too little on this score.
At least Dead Man's chest had 3 big suites, a major action track (from Gire and sponsler) and a Big climatic ending.
We will be lucky if "mermaids" and "Blackbeard" are great...
:(

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