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I'll try to explain myself more with the scores I wasn't a big fan of. I really like a lot of Gears of War 3. It has a lot of faster paced, melodic action cues, and the cues from Gears of War 2 are improved. Its main problem is it's not very memorable, which Jablonsky is usually able to produce. <br><br>Ender's Game I found to be a bit of a slog. There was a lot of ambient/sound design cues which I found incredibly dull. However, it's possible I was expecting too much, or maybe I was too harsh on it. I'll try to have another listen to that one. <br><br>Gangster Squad was one where I just looked at the comments to see what people thought about it, and the consensus was "it copied every recent Hollywood score", so I just skipped that one. <br><br>TF3 had a lot of good thematic material, and the finale's action music was a lot of fun, but it lacks the memorability and excitement of the first 2, or the subtlety of 5, making it fall in the middle for me. Plus the Inception sound was pretty annoying. <br><br>Gears of War 2 falls into mediocre for me. The main theme is solid, but the action is repetitive and doesn't have much variation. Plus it also wasn't very memorable. It's basically a worse version of Gears 3 to me. <br><br>Transformers 1 and 2 don't really count to me because those were more an RCP effort than a Jablonsky one. Just to clarify, I don't hate that Jablonsky went down this route. I first learned of his existence through the Transformers scores for god's sake. It's just that listening to Steamboy, it makes me sad there wasn't more of this side of Jablonsky. Oh, and honorable mention to TMNT: Out of the Shadows, that was a great superhero score!Gangster Squad was Ok, but i prefer Ender's Game, actually the sound design in that i find it certain interesting.<br><br>In Battleship, yeah, it's nothing original, but for me, is a guilty pleasure, i love the percussion (i'm a big fan of the taiko sound)<br><br>Enderís Game isnít bad at all, there are some cool power anthems and orchestral moments in it. As for Battleship, while I find most of it generic, I genuinely do like the alien ďMRIĒ sound design he incorporated.<br><br>And one of Jablonskyís most underrated scores imo is Gangster Squad. If you want a fun Jablonsky score that strays away (mostly) from the Zimmer sound thatís it. Any score using Antz as a temp track is fine by me!I will disagree with TF3, Ender's Game, Gears of War 2 and 3, there are good scores, altough i'm a massive fan of that guilty pleasure is Battleship ;D<br><br>And A Nightmare on Elm Street was cool.John Powell to receive Henry Mancini Award. <br><br>Look it up at filmmusicreporter.<br><br>Congrats John
Edmund's right. It's really just sad that Jablonsky could have been one of the greatest composers ever, one with more notoriety and respect from the music community, but instead settled for being... a decent composer.<br><br>TF5 was a step in the right direction, D-War was a great monster movie score, Your Highness came close to Steamboy levels, and IDEA felt like Jablonsky's symphony in a lot of ways. But on the other end you have Ender's Game, Transformers 3 and 4, Battleship, Gears of War 2, Gears of War: Judgement, and a few others that range from ok, to flat out awful. Occasionally though you get some decent ones like Gears of War 3, and A Nightmare on Elm Street.<br><br>My point is, we get a composer overridden with bland projects, and musically inept directors, when he had the potential for being Oscar level.This just occurred to me. 1:44-2:10ish in Remember Who You Are kind of sounds like part of Mozartís Ave Verum Corpus...and we know Hans is a fan of that piece...@mpolonest: I'm the opposite side: BvS grown each time i listened.<br><br>Not the same for MoS ;D@DS<br><br>You are absolutely right, and it was something that I did think about while I was writing the post, I just never clarified it. <br><br>But that also has the opposite effect as well. I've had plenty of scores/songs which originally I liked that I gradually grew to dislike or simply lose interest. One of the most recent ones is BvS, which I enjoyed when it came out but looking back is probably one of my least favorite Zimmer scores.@Edmund @Ds totally agree! This days the only composer that convince me is Steven Price.
Is there a Balfe score that is not very temped? Every single Balfe score I listened to is basically giving an old score a fresh set of paint.mpolonest123: it's difficult to compare scores that are 10 years old and that you had plenty of time to digest, with brand new scores you've only heard a couple of times.<br><br>You said it yourself, when Clash of the Titans came out you thought it was generic and forgettable. It's only later that you noticed all these themes and all the work Djawadi put into it.<br><br>And actually it works like that with any new album released by any major artist. Fans are always like "it sucks, I prefer their previous albums". And yet 5 years later they love all these songs and know them by heart. :-pEdmund: I see your point, and if everyone could become 100% objective it would be actually true. But in practice, our personal tastes play a heavy role in deciding whether a score is interesting or fun or creative or intelligent or enjoyable. Some people like very classical, orchestral music more than anything else; even if JXL was creating the craziest soundtrack ever, his sound palette and synthetic approach alone would be enough to make these people dislike the score and say it's rubbish. The level of detail he put in Tomb Raider is astonishing, but sadly it'll only be noticed by people who are not upset by this style of brutal and synthetic environment. Of course it also works the other way, dry orchestral scores like Giacchino frequently writes do nothing to me, I don't particularly like this kind of sound, so I never spent a lot of time listening to them. As a consequence, I never was able to dissect them to discover all their (I guess) richness, subtleties, etc. So from my point of view, almost all Giacchino scores sound the same way and are not interesting, and I don't understand how and why he keeps getting all those major assignments. That's to say, our personal preferences will always interfere with our judgment, even if we honestly try to be fair.I feel like I see/have this kind of conversation on film music boards all the time. The approach isn't the problem, it's the execution. For example, when Man of Steel came out:<br><br>me: "I'm a bit disappointed by Man of Steel, it has its moments but I don't think it's a very good score overall"<br>fanboys: "JOHN WILLIAMS WAS YESTERDAY, ZIMMER IS TODAY, THIS IS A DIFFERENT SUPERMAN BLAH BLAH BLAH GET OVER IT"<br>me: "...did I mention Williams?"<br><br>or else Mad Max: Fury Road<br><br>me: "Mad Max is a decent score but I feel like the film deserved much more"<br>fanboys: "THERE'S LITERALLY A DUDE ON A DRUM CAR WITH A FLAMETHROWER GUITAR WHAT DID YOU EXPECT"<br>me: "...a composer who does more interesting things with those drums and that guitar?"<br><br>All over the place. It was really aggravating. This is a similar situation A talented film composer can write interesting, engaging music in all sorts of styles, for all sorts of films and under all sorts of directorial conditions. My issue with Tomb Raider isn't that it's not a traditional Jerry Goldsmith adventure score. I never expected that from this film, and certainly not from this composer. It's just not a very interesting or intelligent or enjoyable version of what it's trying to be, and that's the bottom line.@mrzimmerfan <br><br>I completely agree with you. Tomb Raider definitely didnít need a traditional score at all. And I love all the scores youíve mentioned. I even donít have a problem with the approach he took.<br><br>But I just donít like the score as is. We just have to agree to disagree, no harm done. :-)
I don't think he means that, just that it would have been interesting if Jablonsky had gone more into animated movies like Powell did, rather than mostly Michael Bay. I think maybe we got a hint of what that could have been like with Your Highness a few years ago, a score I'll always defend, but yeah...the lack of follow-up to Steamboy is a great tragedy in Jablonsky's career.@mpolonest: I will enjoyed more Run All Night than Mad Max, hell, even The Dark Tower.<br><br>But with Tomb Raider, this movie is harsh, with a real character, and an adventure score a la Goldsmith or JNH, will not benefit anything about it. And in there, there is a lot of great sounds and ideas pop up in all the score.<br><br>And this is telling you a guy who LOVE The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, the entire Indiana Jones and Jumanji scores.@mpolonest: I will enjoyed more Run All Night than Mad Max, hell, even The Dark Tower.<br><br>But with Tomb Raider, this movie is harsh, with a real character, and an adventure score a la Goldsmith or JNH, will not benefit anything about it. And in there, there is a lot of great sounds and ideas pop up in all the score.<br><br>And this is telling you a guy who LOVE The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, the entire Indiana Jones and Jumanji scores.I don't think Jablonsky is going to be a new John Powell ;)<br><br>But this one of his most notable efforts, i will said that.This is feels like a very temped soundtrack, only that explains why the score is so generic. I wonder which movies music scenes producer-director used to make lorne do this. <br><br>Track 8 - is Tron legacy (dont know maybe he worked on it, powell was involved maybe he was too)

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Cowboys & Aliens
Label: Varese Sarabande
Length: 56'54 rating:        Not yet rated
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  1. Jake Lonergan (3:07)
  2. Palms To Heaven (2:24)
  3. Col. Woodrow Dolarhyde (4:51)
  4. Attack & Abductions (4:22)
  5. A Kid, A Dog & A Woman (3:57)
  6. Emmettís Close Encounter (4:54)
  7. Alien Air Attack (3:04)
  8. Sheís Gone (4:36)
  9. I Know Where They Are (6:28)
  10. Jakeís Army (2:40)
  11. Godspeed (3:34)
  12. Goodbye Jake (2:50)
  13. I See Them (3:31)
  14. Ellaís Mission (2:04)
  15. Do You Remember Me? (1:48)
  16. Return To The Cabin (1:12)
  17. See You Around (1:33)
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FE reply Replies: 0 || 2014-02-20 18:03:23
Hybrid, when you upload Harry's Music??

HeyYOU reply Replies: 13 || 2011-07-29 16:20:37
So I listened to the entire score, not that impressed to be honest. Don't see why the fans rating is so high...

kaka2011-07-29 16:26:48
I agree. Im gonna have to stop taking my sources seriously...I dont wanna go back and say Wolverine score, that score, I found one or 2 tracks that are ok, while the rest of it just slides into obscurity for me...

Matteo2011-07-29 17:25:44
it's a copy-past from Wolverine :S

kaka2011-07-29 20:42:12
Sadly...It sure as hell sounds like it. I caught underscore from Man on Fire. And when Harry brings up Man in Fire in his score, you know it's being phoned in.

Matteo2011-07-29 21:36:28
i would like that harry return to his old Armageddon,Broken Arrow...The Rock....sadly :(

HGW42011-07-30 00:36:48
I don't understand you is a great score. You complain that you hear elements from his other scores...obviously...that is why it is a Harry Gregson-Williams score. All composers use the same motifs in their compositions. That is why you can listen to a score and know who composed it without reading the credits. Its quite obvious. The same is true for the greats: Mozart, Beethoven...I believe this is an excellent score. Too bad you guys can't enjoy things that are wonderful.

kaka2011-07-30 19:47:09
you call this wonderful? Ok.

Drake2011-07-31 00:59:47
I agree as well. Harry hasn't written a really good score since Narnia and Kingdom of Heaven. The only good tracks were Jake Lonergan/See You Around, and Return to the Cabin.

kaka2011-07-31 01:19:27
LOL you're giving it less credit than I did...I counted at least 5 tracks - Lonergan, Dolarhyde, See You around, Return to Cabin, and lastly...Do You Remember Me.

FYI I only picked the final tracks because they all sound like they belong together and transition well, while I only picked Dolarhyde because its the secondary theme to the film aside from Lonergan...But as a whole? This is Wolverine all over again.

Drake2011-07-31 03:26:24
lol I found Dolarhyde a pretty good track.

The reason I'm being pretty harsh on this is probably because i was hoping for a little more "Western flair' to it, kind of like Greg Edmundson's score for the TV show Firefly (also a space-cowboy genre). Not a copy/paste of Wolverine.

kaka2011-07-31 04:20:48
Yeah...the only Western Flair i got from this score was the beginning theme and the ending theme. This seems tobe the one case where just because you add acoustic guitar to a temo score does nto make it Western. At least Trevor Rabin had the decency to give us some BANJO with his American Outlaws Score, dammit! And I hates that score!

Snake 2011-08-01 07:58:38
Even though I like this score, kaka is right; some samples are taken from Wolverine. But this isn't strange for Hans Zimmer's apprentices. An example; Steve Jablonsky and his all Transformers scores; he uses all samples from that Gregson-Williams and Zimmer use or used and fans still like his works. Another examples; Hans Zimmer and his Pirates of the Caribbean scores and finally Harry Gregson-Williams and all his music composed for Tony Scott's films, they use the same samples from previous works in the past and fans like them.

So kaka, if you complain about this score, then you will keep complaining about future scores from any composer because everybody does it. John Williams, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steve Jablonsky, Ramin Djawadi or even Hans Zimmer. And fans or non-fans like their work. And if you keep complaining, then stop listening to film scores and start to listen another music genre that sounds different to you.

kaka2011-08-01 15:55:32
"So kaka, if you complain about this score, then you will keep complaining about future scores from any composer because everybody does it."

Nice logic but thats not excuse for unoriginality. Hey if you like this bland, uninspiring pile of HGW staple that's you. I expect much better.

Anonymous2013-10-16 17:43:51
To be fair, 2-3 starts out of 5 isn't "high"...

HGW4 reply Replies: 1 || 2011-11-07 22:45:02
NEW soundtrack!!!! Mr. Harry Gregson-Williams is the composer for the upcoming film Arthur Christmas :) I sure hope there is a CD release! I can't wait!!!

Miles2011-11-08 16:14:56
There is. Check out for details.

tomPoland reply Replies: 0 || 2011-08-20 18:03:11
While listening I thought it's a PoP sequel...

Vishagh reply Replies: 6 || 2011-08-09 04:22:01
Oh another disappointed score from Harry. Only 2 tracks worth listening to. Whats happening to harry gregson ?? Considering how the other composers of RCP are performing, i feel its high time Harry gregson had some real good scores in his folio.

Trent Easton Navarro2011-08-09 13:21:45
Disappointing it may be, but it's still better than the horrible bland scores Ramin Djawadi and all the other minions at RCP write. This score at least has something of it's own personality, unlike say Clash of the Titans, Iron Man, Ironclad or Transformers - which all sound interchangeable.

Ds2011-08-09 14:02:18
you're right for Clash of the Titans or Iron Man, but Ironclad and Transformers have their own personality!

Booku Marksman2011-08-09 15:37:18
NOt really. Take a listen to Djawadi's Fright Night. Its got more personality in that one minute preview than all of Harry's Score.

Trent Easton Navarro2011-08-09 17:42:44
Well, I must have heard a different preview then, cause the one I heard sounded as generic as everything else Djawadi has composed.

Booku2011-08-09 21:50:16
if you're talking the Varese sample, then you got me...I dont know you be listenin to, bro

Vishagh2011-08-14 07:24:51
As for the Transformer, i have felt that was one of the best scores during that year considering the genre of the movie. You are right abt the minors in RCP trying to imitate the typical style.

Aaron Edwards reply Replies: 0 || 2011-08-08 01:14:52
So, I don't understand why everyone is bashing this score so much. Trust me, I'm the first person to have a go at Gregson Williams. I'm so not a fan. But you know, this score is actually not bad. The acoustic guitar work throughout is really nice, and listening to the more down and emotional stuff, very nicely orchestrated, nice chord choices... seriously I'm really liking it (shock horror, I've never said that about a Gregson Williams score).

zahnmimres reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-30 12:52:01's not as impressive as I have expected it to be yet it's still enjoyable. "Jake Lonergan" "Alien Air Attack" "Ellaís Mission" are my favorite 5-star tracks. If I have to rate it, it will be somewhere between PRINCE OF PERSIA and WOLVERINE.
P.S. For composer's similarity, I think I can hear some PRINCE OF PERSIA in this too :P

Unknown reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-30 00:56:28
Oh my god is this music boring. NO Western elements, only country elements and too much synthesizer.... no this is the badest score, I've hear in this year.

Anonymous reply Replies: 26 || 2011-07-21 07:11:37
Is this gonna be on itunes? & when is release date?

Dakota2011-07-26 01:14:53
It should be released on iTunes by midnight. Today is the 25th. It's being released on the 26th, is it not?

Dingoutback2011-07-26 01:55:34
Looks like the physical album is being released on 8/16/11. That could be the release date for the download album as well. We will find out by tomorrow.

kaka2011-07-26 02:52:01
Don't forget Super 8 came out and the website shows the cd isnt shipping until maybe.

Dakota2011-07-26 03:11:51
Damnit, I hate Varese. They release their albums so late. It sucks

Anonymous2011-07-26 06:14:44
guess not :/

kaka2011-07-26 06:28:09
Eh...Maybe next week.

HGW42011-07-27 00:18:16
It was to be released today, but they recently pushed back the date about a week ago...very frustrating. Why they play these games I don't think we will ever know!

Anonymous2011-07-27 00:34:41
so now when does it come out on itunes?

kaka2011-07-27 01:47:48
well...going by that logic, perhaps they intend to release it next tuesday, since it was pushed back a week forward from this tuesday...possible/ssibly

Dakota2011-07-27 03:45:35
Like I said, I hate Varese. F-ing hate them. I wouldn't be surprised if they push it back till August/September. They played this game several times with the season 2 soundtrack for Fringe. 3 that's right, 3 different times they changed the date. January to February to April to May. It's ridiculous.

kaka2011-07-27 05:33:18
Maybe someone should contact them and ask? Super 8 still listed as a release date in August, and it's out...So who knows

Bou2011-07-27 10:56:15
Dakota , instead of " hating Varese" only for their release dates : as every other company they haven't a total control of what the majors having the rights of the music want to do : you should be happy and praise them to release titles such as those "Cowboys.." and the Powell , the Rabin ...etc
Stupid post of the day!

kaka2011-07-27 13:08:10
lol @ patronizing attitude here. You guys arent gonna fight over this now are you? Score can still come out next week ya know...

Trent Easton Navarro2011-07-27 18:43:15
@ Dakota

Patience friend, patience. Be glad that labels like Varese exist, instead of hating them. They released a lot of classic scores. Probably 1/3 of my soundtrack collection are Varese releases, so they are doing something right.

kaka2011-07-27 19:42:47
movie reviews say the score is hands down one of the best this year, so I guess i'd be as excited as Dakota over there...I'd say give them some credit - they did release Super 8 ahead of cd release schedule, they might do the same thing again with this one....Im crossing my fingers for Itunes.

Dakota2011-07-27 21:54:28
Guys, chill. I understand what your saying about them releasing stuff at all, to which I am very grateful. But the circumstances are different when it comes down to the release of Fringe season 2. 3 different times the release date was changed. 3. Yes it's out now but when you get excited over a release and after the 2nd time you find out it's delayed only for them to delay it yet again, it's frustrating. Someone must understand where I'm coming from. And I'm very much looking forward to this score. John Favreau's last collaboration from RCP was Iron Man, and I think that is a fantastic score despite want some people think of it. I love Harry's music.

kaka2011-07-27 22:07:46
I agree Dakota. I heard it's pretty good...

Dakota2011-07-27 23:18:31
Well thanks, glad someone agrees with me. I hope it's good. I hope what you're saying about it being one of the best of the year is true. I think it could be great. Hopefully some western themes mixed with some totally awesome alien-esque themes. The idea for this movie is genius. I love westerns and I love aliens. I think it will be really good, both the film and the score

kaka2011-07-28 00:11:25
well, based off the official website, which has a sneak of the score, it sounds as if Gregson Williams took a listen to the trevor Rabin's American Outlaws score and said "Screw that. I'm not doing it that way!" and went ahead and did it better.

But anyway, movie reviewers say it's one of the best this year so far. But is it pretty good as in "a Remote Control Productions score", or a "Harry Gregson Williams score"? Don't really know yet. We already know Harry has the tendency to plagiarize himself, which is why I tend to avoid most of his music post Man on Fire (80% of Wolverine was abysmal), but it sounds decent so far and Im pumped to hear his first "Western" score. Fingers crossed for next Tuesday...

Going For Gold2011-07-28 03:13:42
Btw Harry's first western score was for 'Seraphim Falls' back in 2006.

kaka2011-07-28 04:12:23
it is? i couldnt tell.

Noble 2011-07-28 08:19:07
It is out on itunes go get it!!!!

Dakota2011-07-28 08:39:32
Yes!! Downloading Now!!

kaka2011-07-28 17:05:21
the FU -

See? I dont get this late in the week digital release thing thats going on but..God bless em though- they do digital early. Thanks for the info!

Lee Jon2011-07-28 18:03:38
Could only download three tracks, but so far I like it... a lot!

kaka2011-07-29 07:21:17
i bought it and to be honest with you....i um...i still here parts of man on fire in this.

im not as impressed as i initially thought...

Snake reply Replies: 1 || 2011-07-26 07:28:55
I already checked the credits on the album and there too many missing credits:
- Martin Tillman (cello) (as usual as part Harry Gregson-Williams' team)
- Costa Kotselas (Music Engineer)
- Anthony Lledo (Guitar)
- Toby Chu (Programming)
- Hugh Marsh (violin)
- Meri Gavin (Music Editor or Assistant)
- Malcolm Luker (Score Mixer)
- Richard Whitfield
- Jamie Luker

I think Heitor Pereira is involved too but that's something I'm really not sure. But you can use this information to include them in the credits.

I really hope you guys to use this.

Snake2011-07-26 07:30:47
I forgot one more credit:

- Hybrid (Additional Programming)

Dingoutback reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-26 01:08:44
Anymore information on this Soundtrack? I really wanna hear it.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-20 16:04:20
the clip on the site sounds a bit like david arnolds theme for BBC's sherlock

Love the abduction clip though, got a bit of a prince caspian vibe in it.

Levente reply Replies: 1 || 2011-07-17 16:12:35
A short clip from the movie, with music. Sounds okay for me.

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Anonymous2011-07-20 04:07:48
I like it! cant wait!

Kaka reply Replies: 6 || 2011-07-11 17:08:19
Alright! First!

Please god I hope this score doesn't suck....

JBourne2011-07-11 18:47:39
Im with u on that ..
do u have any idea when it'll be released ?!

Dakota2011-07-11 23:52:50
Alright, I can't wait for this!! I thought Harry left Remote Control? I thought that's what Hybrid Soldier said. Oh well, glad he's still here. I think this one's gonna be good =)

kaka2011-07-12 00:48:30
Varese is releasing it 7/26....Although I have to admit painfully that Harry's music hasn't really been all that great since his "Man on Fire" days...Since then his music all seems to sound the same (at least to me)

Its available for preorder and probably will be on Itunes soon enough, I guess. But if it sounds like his typical rehashed music I may not bother...

HGW42011-07-14 18:17:53
The clip on the film's website sounds great!!! Harry Gregson-Williams never disappoints me! I appreciate ALL of his music!

Prott2011-07-14 20:34:55
HGW4: Yeah, it sounds really good!

kaka2011-07-14 23:49:44
Hmm....I guess we'll see how good it gets...© 2001-2017 OST 
Cowboys & Aliens soundtrack - Harry Gregson-Williams 2011