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Theres quite a bit of good unreleased stuff from this score. Stuff like the cue that plays during Alita's first game of motorball with the other kids, the bar fight music, the unused string rendition of Alita's theme and the end titles arrangement of Motorball/Swan Song.Does anyone have the "Motorball" cue from end credits? It sounds like the beginning of the "Motorball" track but it's different than on the OST. It plays directly after the Swan Song track...<br><br>Why is it left off the CD?Huh... Do people at RCP ask H-Z.com to use the official, less accurate credits in some cases? I seem to recall some credit fiasco on POTC4.So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)
Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridge
That's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>
Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.Does anyone know where you can get a digital version of the Japanese versions 2 bonus tracks?Comparing it to YFM’s sfx edit this is what I’ve got;<br><br>“The Mole” seems to be an alternate of the opening sequence. The first minute or so is used, while the rest isn’t. “We Need Our Army Back/Regimental Brothers” are both made up of several cues from different points in the film. <br>“Home” is completely different in the film, which makes me think it may have been recorded specifically for the album. Similar situation with “Oil”. <br>“Supermarine” is definitely a suite. The rest is chronological.<br><br>Interesting thing to note, it seems like a lot of the tempo changes/ticking effects/bass overlays were removed from the album release, making almost every track sound different from the actual film versions. The music in context has a constant pulse going, especially in the way cues segue into each other and change tempo.
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Trevor MorrisTJ LindgrenTodd HabermanSteve Davis
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Immortals
Label: Relativity Music Group
Length: 51'03
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  1. Immortal And Divine (1:30)
  2. War In The Heavens (2:32)
  3. Hyperion's Siren (3:47)
  4. Witness Hell (1:56)
  5. To Mt. Olympus (2:54)
  6. Enter The Oracles (2:30)
  7. Theseus And Phaedra (1:37)
  8. Poseidon's Leap (1:23)
  9. This Is Your Calling (1:31)
  10. Theseus Fight The Minotaur (2:13)
  11. Theseus Fires The Bow (2:16)
  12. My Own Heart (3:03)
  13. Zeus' Punishment (2:27)
  14. Ride To The Gates (1:00)
  15. In War Fathers Bury Their Sons (1:05)
  16. The Gods Chose Well (1:18)
  17. Fight So Your Name Survives (3:07)
  18. Battle In The Tunnel (2:43)
  19. Immortal Combat (3:34)
  20. Do Not Forsake Mankind (4:33)
  21. Apotheosis (1:44)
  22. Sky Fight - End Credits (2:22)
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Warfighter reply Replies: 0 || 2012-05-16 02:52:57
Has anyone heard Morris' Scorpion King 3 score? any info about this one?

Hale reply Replies: 1 || 2011-11-02 10:41:17
This score seems to be a mix between "Angels and Demons"(Choir style), "King Arthur" (Heavy orchestra with dark percussions) but it lacks GOOD themes. We can feel "Tudors" music style in a few tracks.

I think it's a functionnal score which takes its sense only in the movie.


Richard2012-01-12 06:42:07
Excellently put.

I want to remark that it all comes together rather nicely for immortals, the whole being more than the sum of its parts.

For example I feel the ending sky fight and subsequent staff credits is one of the most memorably powerful moments I've experienced in the theater.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 7 || 2011-11-17 23:53:22
Man, this is a really weak score. I thought Trevor Morris would do better on his first solo assignment but he disappointed me. The reason? TEMP TRACKS!

"Hyperion's Siren" = Inception brass chords

Second half of "To Mt. Olympus" = "The Might of Rome" from Gladiator

"Fight So Your Name Survives" = the Holstesque action rhythms from Gladiator

"Do Not Forsake Mankind" = "Journey to the Line" from The Thin Red Line

But worst of all is "Immortal Combat" and "Sky Fight/End Credits", which sound EXACTLY like "160 BPM" from Angels and Demons! What the hell? Why no creativity?

Rest of the score is dull, uninteresting along the lines of the new Conan score. What a flop.


Bondo2011-11-18 00:35:16
It's hardly a flop, it's killing at the box office. And it's not his first solo assignment.


Edmund Meinerts2011-11-18 22:50:20
The score is a flop, not the movie. And I meant first solo blockbuster assignment.


Bondo2011-11-19 03:13:50
Nah, I'm enjoying it. And it worked VERY well in the film itself.


Zantlwisder2011-11-22 08:36:42
You know what? "Immortal Combat" is 160 beats per minute! Exactly the same as "160 BPM" from Angels & Demons.


Ele2011-11-22 10:29:39
@Zantlwisder Incredible find! Awesome! I didn't see that coming. Nice one, Sherlock


Areozz2011-11-22 21:48:07
What are you talking about? this is the page for Immortals, not Sherlock Holmes...


Zantlwisder2011-11-27 01:21:12
2'20''in"Fight So Your Name Survives", the drum beats are the same in "Kraken"from POC2... but the whole score works well in the movie,really

Bar reply Replies: 0 || 2011-11-09 21:07:26
wow! the "Do Not Forsake Mankind " is my favorite...very emotional!

Agntdman reply Replies: 0 || 2011-11-03 06:09:23
Every time I come to the site and see that interview with the film's director on the main page - Tarsem Singh, I keep thinking it's Muammar Gaddafi lol

Miles reply Replies: 0 || 2011-11-02 06:36:41
Mp3 samples on Amazon now! I don't know if it would be best for me to wait until the movie to hear the score or not.

Miles reply Replies: 3 || 2011-10-17 22:36:14
The official site has some samples up now! Any thoughts, first impressions?


Ds2011-10-18 12:48:32
I hear only one little cue... where do you see more samples? Thanks :)


Miles2011-10-19 16:51:52
You have to click on the tabs for synopsis, cast, downloads, etc., to hear the other cues.


Ds2011-10-19 18:23:39
Ok thanks a lot! ... i hope the full soundtrack will be more epic than these cues... These are ambiant cues, with no theme...

NoName reply Replies: 12 || 2011-10-09 21:36:30
Äh Tyler Bates 300 Part II ??? Its not so different !


NoName2011-10-09 21:38:07
A copy from Tyler Bates 300 !


Miles2011-10-10 16:25:41
Actually, there's a small score excerpt on the official site, and it definitely sounds more "Hans Zimmer" than "Tyler Bates."


NoName2011-10-10 22:47:57
Do you hear the music complete ? Do you M.D. in Music ?


Areozz2011-10-11 02:55:12
Do you M.D. in being a jerk? Mmmmm....hmmmmm, yes. Yes, you do.


Blu2011-10-11 11:28:39
No sarcasm intended but I didn't know the term M.D. can be used for anything other than medicine. Can it?


Areozz2011-10-11 14:25:44
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure you're right, Blu.

This NoName guy thinks he's a know-it-all and thinks this music sounds like Tyler Bates, possibly because Tyler Bates did the music for 300 and because this movie appears to be similar to 300. It is not clear whether he has actually heard the music.

All composers have a unique style and if you've listened to the composers involved in this conversation, you could provide a statement like Miles did. NoName appears to have not a wide range of musical tastes....

*Waits for response from NoName*


Areozz2011-10-11 15:50:34
Ah, I overcame my laziness and looked it up. M.D. does indeed stand for Doctor of Medicine which makes absolutely no sense in the context that NoName used it in. Perhaps a better choice would have been "do you major in music?" to which the response could have been, "you don't have to be a music major to state when one composer's work sounds like another's."


Papapalpatine772011-10-11 18:27:12
Actually, if it sounds anything like 300, it really sounds like Elliot Gildenthal's score to Titus. Bates copied much of the themes from it and there was even a lawsuit. Now on the back of the latest Blu-ray (the digibook), there is an asterisk next to Bates' name. At the bottom it says *based on preexisting compositions not authored by Tyler Bates.


NoName2011-10-11 21:23:38
Sory iam not from America or England, Iam from Germany ind Iam a friend of Ramin Djawadi and Michael Levine. I know many composers RCP, because of my position in Germany. Doctor in German "Doktor" in Duisburg. I can not so good English but i can music and that is not English.

I hear often music before it is published. My specialist areas is Fimmusic, there i teach in munich (Bavaria). Ramin is an old fiend from Duisburg , i visit him often ! Therefor i have hear the new music.

And its really the same.

(Please no questions, idont send everybody the music)

Sorry for my bad english, i have it learn by myself.


Luc2011-10-14 16:34:23
That already was a copy of Elliot Goldenthal's Titus...


Anon2011-10-16 13:56:13
NoName, keep throwing your job title around, honestly no one cares. You can make yourself feel big by saying that meaningless garbage if you like however :) Just know that no one here actually cares. At all.


NoName2011-10-19 17:31:43
Ok !

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2011-10-13 09:27:28
This will be awesome! We know Trevor can write good epic score (Tudors, Pillars, King Arthur)

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2011-10-10 22:23:00
Interview with Trevor Morris about "Immortals":

http : // scorenotes .com/interviews . html

Kusi81 reply Replies: 0 || 2011-10-10 15:33:10
great!!! :) When's the start of Preordering that? :)

NoName reply Replies: 0 || 2011-10-09 21:39:31
Todd and Michel it is not related to you!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 3 || 2011-10-09 12:15:54
I. Can't. Wait.


Blu2011-10-09 16:07:31
Awesome! I hope it is loud and epic!


Bondo2011-10-09 18:28:39
Wow, Trevor is doing this?? :D


NoName2011-10-09 21:37:16
I have hear it ! Its so .....

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