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Not as simply as that.... Training is Ramin's arrangement of a Hans theme, and the core of Mr. Charles when the Fischer theme isn't playing is a Hans idea, too, as far as I know. Take the Zimmer out and those moments wouldn't be the same.I think Balfe working with Nolan would have done a great jobBob,The Training is basically Ramin Djawadi and Mr.Charles is BalfeI hope these two team up again. Zimmer's score is the main driving force for some memorable scenes. Just a few<br>Batman Begins-The Training<br>TDK- Joker crash the party, Gordon's speech and ending<br>Inception - Time, Mr.Charles, <br>TKDR - the climb, imagine the fire and orphan<br>Interstellar-Stay, Docking, coward, mountain<br>Dunkirk - well the entire movieJustin Hurwitz I can see. I enjoyed La La Land and First Man. But Both Hurwitz and Göransson are several notches above Lorne Balfe. <br><br>I think 80/100 directors would rather work with Göransson than Balfe.
I really believe that Nolan has made a mistake as a composer.I think Lorne Balfe, David Julyan or Justin Hurwitz would be much better options than Ludwig Goransson.Interesting news. <br><br>Geoff Zanelli is one of those composers who I’ve loved his additional music over his solo efforts, Pirates 5 excluded. I hope he gets a chance to write some great fantasy music for this, regardless if he reuses JNH’s themes or not.I think I am the only one, who would be glad about David Julyan return.<br><br>I really like his music for early Nolan's films, especially Insomnia, and it's what i can call an "atmospheric experience".<br><br>Don't know how his music fits for espionage timetraveling movie, but, for me, i'st would be something interesting to hear.@mpolonest123: those Pemberton scores are indeed pure gold, very cool on album but insanely good in the movie. My favorite is still his King Arthur, that was a beast of a score that stuck with the movie like glue and really enhanced Guy Ritchie's dark, twisted, trippy vision.*3 things
Sure, but there's two things to consider. <br>1). Pirates has such an iconic sound that it'd be really stupid for them to suddenly abandon it at #5. Especially when we hired the guy who has worked on the previous 4. 2). Maleficent, as successful as it was to warrant a sequel, isn't quite as well known in the score department, despite being well received by those who have heard it. 3). Because Zanelli worked on all Pirates, he had enough familiarity with the sounds and motifs that he knew where to go once he led the ship. In Maleficent's case, he's taking over from a previous composer, and is working with a director who likely only knows his work on POTC5. As such, there's no knowing yet if he might be compelled to continue on from JNH, or if it's decided he just does his own thing.<br><br>I'm happy that Geoff at the very least has a safe career at Disney, considering two of their recent live action successes has had him involved. However, considering I hear his recently work hasn't been his best, JNH likely would've benefited from returning to a world that had some of his best material after he wasn't given the opportunity to do so with Glass. As such, it really is a severely missed opportunity, even if newer blood is getting more opportunities.Just listening to this again. It really is a best of both score. What I think is so great, is that you can hear both of the brothers' own voice but they blend so well together!! Really really great score!<br><br>It's a really remarkable score, the swifts in tone between dramatic and jazz is top-notch. It's higher on favorite list from 2019 already, than I thought it would ever be.<br><br>Give me more Gregson-Williams brothers scores!!!!!!I was hoping for JNH, but we'll see what he does. JNH's themes were amazing zo it would be stupod not to use them. But he used the Pirates themes, so I'm feeling actually quite ok about itTrue, but he didn’t really get credit for The Lone Ranger or any of the Pirates films other than #5... those are billed strictly as HZ scores. I would say Christopher Robin likely was a result of the success of his Pirates score, and Timothy Green wasn’t really a Disney tentpole release. Maleficent isn’t a Marvel or Star Wars level tentpole, but it is still a blockbuster film that I think he’ll do an awesome job with.@Mephariel - you’re right. However Interstellar and Inception, musically speaking, are simple scores. They are moving, beautiful, and masterpieces, but still simple. Which is great! <br><br>But if we are wanting Zimmer to return to a type of music, I’d much rather prefer something along the lines of Pirates, The Rock, The Last Samurai, Crimson Tide, etc. Tonally, of course it would be more modern and new, but melodically a return to those forms would be a dream come true.
Geoff has done several other Disney projects besides Pirates 5.  (All Pirates movies since the first, Lone Ranger, Christopher Robin, Odd Life of Timothy Green). And I have to say that I would rather JNH return for the sequel, as that would allow him to expand on his fantastic score for the first film.@George<br><br>To be fair, Interstellar is a genuine masterpiece score and maybe one my favorite score of all time, but I am not sure when Nolan will allow Zimmer to return to that type of scoring. <br><br>Hell, Time is my favorite cue ever, but again, I am not sure if Nolan is interested in that kind of music anymore.  <br><br>I guess we will see with Tenet. And yes, I absolutely think Göransson can be a future star in the making and if anyone is allow write his or her own "Time" cultural moment, it may as well be him.@mephariel @mpolonest123 - glad I’m not the only one who’s more excited for those compared to cold and dark Nolan/Zimmer scores. I’m kinda over those to be honest.And if I’m completely honest, I’m more excited by WW84, Spongebob, Top Gun, and Dark Phoenix than another potential Nolan collab.@mephariel <br>I can definitely see that, especially with King Arthur and Spiderverse. I do think his music adds a lot to the films he scores (Steve Jobs and Man From Uncle being two great examples) where he consistently switches up styles and tones to keep things fresh. Maybe not the strongest theme writer but I do love his approaches.
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Immortals
Label: Relativity Music Group
Length: 51'03
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  1. Immortal And Divine (1:30)
  2. War In The Heavens (2:32)
  3. Hyperion's Siren (3:47)
  4. Witness Hell (1:56)
  5. To Mt. Olympus (2:54)
  6. Enter The Oracles (2:30)
  7. Theseus And Phaedra (1:37)
  8. Poseidon's Leap (1:23)
  9. This Is Your Calling (1:31)
  10. Theseus Fight The Minotaur (2:13)
  11. Theseus Fires The Bow (2:16)
  12. My Own Heart (3:03)
  13. Zeus' Punishment (2:27)
  14. Ride To The Gates (1:00)
  15. In War Fathers Bury Their Sons (1:05)
  16. The Gods Chose Well (1:18)
  17. Fight So Your Name Survives (3:07)
  18. Battle In The Tunnel (2:43)
  19. Immortal Combat (3:34)
  20. Do Not Forsake Mankind (4:33)
  21. Apotheosis (1:44)
  22. Sky Fight - End Credits (2:22)
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Warfighter reply Replies: 0 || 2012-05-16 02:52:57
Has anyone heard Morris' Scorpion King 3 score? any info about this one?

Hale reply Replies: 1 || 2011-11-02 10:41:17
This score seems to be a mix between "Angels and Demons"(Choir style), "King Arthur" (Heavy orchestra with dark percussions) but it lacks GOOD themes. We can feel "Tudors" music style in a few tracks.

I think it's a functionnal score which takes its sense only in the movie.


Richard2012-01-12 06:42:07
Excellently put.

I want to remark that it all comes together rather nicely for immortals, the whole being more than the sum of its parts.

For example I feel the ending sky fight and subsequent staff credits is one of the most memorably powerful moments I've experienced in the theater.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 7 || 2011-11-17 23:53:22
Man, this is a really weak score. I thought Trevor Morris would do better on his first solo assignment but he disappointed me. The reason? TEMP TRACKS!

"Hyperion's Siren" = Inception brass chords

Second half of "To Mt. Olympus" = "The Might of Rome" from Gladiator

"Fight So Your Name Survives" = the Holstesque action rhythms from Gladiator

"Do Not Forsake Mankind" = "Journey to the Line" from The Thin Red Line

But worst of all is "Immortal Combat" and "Sky Fight/End Credits", which sound EXACTLY like "160 BPM" from Angels and Demons! What the hell? Why no creativity?

Rest of the score is dull, uninteresting along the lines of the new Conan score. What a flop.


Bondo2011-11-18 00:35:16
It's hardly a flop, it's killing at the box office. And it's not his first solo assignment.


Edmund Meinerts2011-11-18 22:50:20
The score is a flop, not the movie. And I meant first solo blockbuster assignment.


Bondo2011-11-19 03:13:50
Nah, I'm enjoying it. And it worked VERY well in the film itself.


Zantlwisder2011-11-22 08:36:42
You know what? "Immortal Combat" is 160 beats per minute! Exactly the same as "160 BPM" from Angels & Demons.


Ele2011-11-22 10:29:39
@Zantlwisder Incredible find! Awesome! I didn't see that coming. Nice one, Sherlock


Areozz2011-11-22 21:48:07
What are you talking about? this is the page for Immortals, not Sherlock Holmes...


Zantlwisder2011-11-27 01:21:12
2'20''in"Fight So Your Name Survives", the drum beats are the same in "Kraken"from POC2... but the whole score works well in the movie,really

Bar reply Replies: 0 || 2011-11-09 21:07:26
wow! the "Do Not Forsake Mankind " is my favorite...very emotional!

Agntdman reply Replies: 0 || 2011-11-03 06:09:23
Every time I come to the site and see that interview with the film's director on the main page - Tarsem Singh, I keep thinking it's Muammar Gaddafi lol

Miles reply Replies: 0 || 2011-11-02 06:36:41
Mp3 samples on Amazon now! I don't know if it would be best for me to wait until the movie to hear the score or not.

Miles reply Replies: 3 || 2011-10-17 22:36:14
The official site has some samples up now! Any thoughts, first impressions?


Ds2011-10-18 12:48:32
I hear only one little cue... where do you see more samples? Thanks :)


Miles2011-10-19 16:51:52
You have to click on the tabs for synopsis, cast, downloads, etc., to hear the other cues.


Ds2011-10-19 18:23:39
Ok thanks a lot! ... i hope the full soundtrack will be more epic than these cues... These are ambiant cues, with no theme...

NoName reply Replies: 12 || 2011-10-09 21:36:30
Äh Tyler Bates 300 Part II ??? Its not so different !


NoName2011-10-09 21:38:07
A copy from Tyler Bates 300 !


Miles2011-10-10 16:25:41
Actually, there's a small score excerpt on the official site, and it definitely sounds more "Hans Zimmer" than "Tyler Bates."


NoName2011-10-10 22:47:57
Do you hear the music complete ? Do you M.D. in Music ?


Areozz2011-10-11 02:55:12
Do you M.D. in being a jerk? Mmmmm....hmmmmm, yes. Yes, you do.


Blu2011-10-11 11:28:39
No sarcasm intended but I didn't know the term M.D. can be used for anything other than medicine. Can it?


Areozz2011-10-11 14:25:44
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure you're right, Blu.

This NoName guy thinks he's a know-it-all and thinks this music sounds like Tyler Bates, possibly because Tyler Bates did the music for 300 and because this movie appears to be similar to 300. It is not clear whether he has actually heard the music.

All composers have a unique style and if you've listened to the composers involved in this conversation, you could provide a statement like Miles did. NoName appears to have not a wide range of musical tastes....

*Waits for response from NoName*


Areozz2011-10-11 15:50:34
Ah, I overcame my laziness and looked it up. M.D. does indeed stand for Doctor of Medicine which makes absolutely no sense in the context that NoName used it in. Perhaps a better choice would have been "do you major in music?" to which the response could have been, "you don't have to be a music major to state when one composer's work sounds like another's."


Papapalpatine772011-10-11 18:27:12
Actually, if it sounds anything like 300, it really sounds like Elliot Gildenthal's score to Titus. Bates copied much of the themes from it and there was even a lawsuit. Now on the back of the latest Blu-ray (the digibook), there is an asterisk next to Bates' name. At the bottom it says *based on preexisting compositions not authored by Tyler Bates.


NoName2011-10-11 21:23:38
Sory iam not from America or England, Iam from Germany ind Iam a friend of Ramin Djawadi and Michael Levine. I know many composers RCP, because of my position in Germany. Doctor in German "Doktor" in Duisburg. I can not so good English but i can music and that is not English.

I hear often music before it is published. My specialist areas is Fimmusic, there i teach in munich (Bavaria). Ramin is an old fiend from Duisburg , i visit him often ! Therefor i have hear the new music.

And its really the same.

(Please no questions, idont send everybody the music)

Sorry for my bad english, i have it learn by myself.


Luc2011-10-14 16:34:23
That already was a copy of Elliot Goldenthal's Titus...


Anon2011-10-16 13:56:13
NoName, keep throwing your job title around, honestly no one cares. You can make yourself feel big by saying that meaningless garbage if you like however :) Just know that no one here actually cares. At all.


NoName2011-10-19 17:31:43
Ok !

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2011-10-13 09:27:28
This will be awesome! We know Trevor can write good epic score (Tudors, Pillars, King Arthur)

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2011-10-10 22:23:00
Interview with Trevor Morris about "Immortals":

http : // scorenotes .com/interviews . html

Kusi81 reply Replies: 0 || 2011-10-10 15:33:10
great!!! :) When's the start of Preordering that? :)

NoName reply Replies: 0 || 2011-10-09 21:39:31
Todd and Michel it is not related to you!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 3 || 2011-10-09 12:15:54
I. Can't. Wait.


Blu2011-10-09 16:07:31
Awesome! I hope it is loud and epic!


Bondo2011-10-09 18:28:39
Wow, Trevor is doing this?? :D


NoName2011-10-09 21:37:16
I have hear it ! Its so .....

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