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Yep, if "deserving" existed, Atli would've gotten many more movies than he currently does.Anyone know of a proper chronological listing of this score? I tried cross-referencing it with the expanded listed here and made this:<br><br>01 Dublin, 1996<br>02 <br>03 <br>04 <br>05 Second Warning<br>06 Research<br>07 Driving<br>08 The Beating<br>09 Traynor Lies<br>10 Never Show Your Fear<br>11 Preparations<br>12 The Killing<br>13 Bad News<br>14 The Funeral<br>15 One More Day<br><br>But I have no idea where Conversations, First Warning, and Deceit goes, and I'm not sure if Traynor Lies and Driving are placed correctlyif you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap<br>..................<br><br>Fair enough....But look back on the comment itself. It's kinda confusing. The way you wrote it created the illusion that Lorne not only ghostwrote the score, but he also dismissed it as crap. You didn't say "I dismissed the rumor". You said: "...a rumor stating that Lorne Balfe ghostwrote this score and dismissed it as crap." <br> <br><br>Anyway, moving on.....<br><br>Steve was interviewed a lot about The Last Knight and it's pretty obvious that he worked hard on that score. From the day they started shooting the movie. Was he supported by other composers? Absolutely. You can't score such a huge movie by yourself. Any composer who claims that is lying.<br><br>So there's nothing shocking or surprising about the fact that other composers were involved here. As for them being "Lorne's people"......well, considering how MV/RC-related composers work and how interconnected everything is, the "Lorne guys" could very well be friends with Steve too and perhaps he simply brought them on board. Or they were recommended by Lorne. It certainly doesn't mean that there was this top secret plan of them and Lorne actually ghostwriting the entire score. I still wonder tho......how do these rumors even come up? Who spreads them? And why? I ask because this is not the first time I've heard rumors about Zimmer scores and Jablonsky scores. It's always these two guys. Which happen to be two of the most prominent and popular MV/RC guys. Coincidence? Not to sound like a conspiracy nut, but it kinda makes me think that someone is intentionally trying to undermine the biggest MV/RC names by constantly throwing shade at their work."Deserving" is a word that doesn't exist in Hollywood, so stop thinking that way... lolThe problem I have with Junkie XL scoring Avatar is just that there are so many RCP composers better or more deserving. You have Zimmer, Powell, Gregson-Williams, Mancina, Jackman, Wallfisch...it is just so wrong to think Junkie XL is scoring Avatar and none of those guys are.
I think that Tim Miller played a greater role in case of Terminator and Sonic. And I really don't see Junkie as good choice for Avatar 2.@Edmund <br>I still stand by my opinion that Holkenborg scoring Avatar 2 could be pretty interesting. Pairing him up with a director who is known to be strict with his musical choices and continuing on from James Hornerís classic might produce something really good. And seeing his gradual progress as a composer with Mortal Engines and Alita have personally given me some hope (2 years ago I would have said hell no).<br><br>And Iím not surprised by the choice for T6. Not looking forward to this project at all but we did get a cool score from Balfe for the last one so maybe there is some hope for the music at least.I think Terminator is a decent match for JXL's talents (listen to "The March" from Divergent), but this feels like further evidence that James Cameron is grooming him for Avatar 2, which I really hope ends up not being the case.Yes, Tom will be scoring the new Terminator movieChill out Bayhem, if you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap.<br>But seeing people from his team ivolved and considering the fast and furious situation, I canít help but wondering if thereís some truth to that rumor.<br>Now for a guy talking about haters, saying that Lorne scores 36million projects and B movies (forgetting mission impossible) I think youíre pushing it a bit.<br>Anyway no hate I donít care who wrote it Iím just curious about the behind the scenes stuff.
You're reaching there a bit Bayhem, I see no one in this thread trying to undermine Steve's work or the score. Hell the first poster was just asking if Lorne worked on it and if so, to what extent. And the "rumor comment" is a logical extension of Lorne's whole regular team being credited on the score, therefore it is possible that he did additional work on it.Again a "rumor" comment that's trying to undermine Steve's work. And in this case, an entire score. Lorne fans, please stop trying to constantly undermine other composers in favor of your guy. It's childish and extremely disrespectful. You've done it multiple times on these boards. What's next? You gonna claim that Lorne secretly scored the entire Transformers franchise? And Lord of the Rings. And Harry Potter. <br><br>Seriously, it's getting really old, really fast. <br><br>Not to mention the fact that Steve, as a composer, is much, much more experienced and established than Lorne. He's got nothing to prove. Steve takes his time when it comes to scoring. He's choosing carefully. He's got more than enough time to focus on his projects. While Lorne's name is attached to 30 million different projects, some of them cheap B-movies like Hurricane Heist. And you think he's scoring them all by himself? The irony of it all is that if anyone is using ghostwriters most of the time, it's Lorne. Not Steve. And I'm saying that as a Lorne fan as well. I'm not just a Jablonsky fan. I appreciate Lorne's work as well. But I'm not undermining other composers in favor of him.Bay has Lorne scoring his films now cause they established a relationship on 13 Hours, and Bay didn't even want Lorne for that; he wanted Hans but he didn't want to go through the exhausting process of another Bay blockbuster so he brought in Lorne instead.<br>And even then, Hans still worked together with Lorne very closely on the project (Hybrid said he was there for all the meetings, helped with synth programming, etc)Of cause Balfe worked on it .That is why Bay now uses Balfeyou can absolutely hear the 13 hours temp track in Battlefield and We Have to Go
Not to mention that Steve and Lorne structure their power anthems differently.<br>To me this score sounds like 100% SteveI wouldn't say so, Lorne stacks his ostinatos and rhythms on top of each other (see Blackwood, Last Man on the Moon) and shotguns piano writing all over his scores in addition to using it for almost any kind of emotional scene (see Manny, Duck Shoot, Brothers Theme from Hurricane Heist)Well, if all we're using to distinguish Lorne is ostinatos and piano writing, then in that case, he's all over this film!The interesting thing is, that if Lorne did work on it, his work is indistinguishable from Steve's cause I hear none of his ostinatos or extensive piano writing.@Hybrid, a while ago I saw a rumor stating that Lorne Balfe ghostwrote this score and dismissed it as crap.<br>But looking at the credits I see some people from his team have been involved( his assistant Queenie Li as music coordinator, and Max Aruj and Steffen Thum did arrangements..)<br>Do you know why and to which extent he was involved or why his team worked on the score?
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Safe House
Label: Varese Sarabande
Length: 69'02
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  1. Safe House (3:16)
  2. A Hundred Lies A Day (3:16)
  3. Get In The Trunk (4:25)
  4. Do I Make You Nervous? (3:08)
  5. I Used To Be Innocent Like You (2:11)
  6. Tobin Frost (2:19)
  7. Off The Grid (3:28)
  8. Do What You Have To Do (4:49)
  9. Don't Kill Innocent People (3:45)
  10. Who Do You Work For? (3:45)
  11. Walk Away (6:04)
  12. People Change (2:17)
  13. Be Better Than Me (4:12)
  14. Langa (6:14)
  15. More Past Than Future (3:19)
  16. 12 Months (3:06)
  17. Truth (3:43)
  18. I'll Take It From Here (5:47)
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Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-04 19:15:56
No word if Djawadi is scoring another Espinosa's film, "Child 44"?

Yumbo reply Replies: 1 || 2012-02-14 19:11:06
Amusing comments.

The score was very restrained.

The end credits song was the highlight, but sounded like Sting.


Evenstar2012-02-19 21:41:21
Most of the djawadi scores (specially horror & thriller) are restrained.

Trent Easton Navarro reply Replies: 10 || 2012-01-30 22:15:07
Great, more mindless, boring droning from one of the worst of Zimmer's minions


Areozz2012-01-31 02:13:24
Great, more mindless, boring droning from one of this site's worst posters


Trent Easton Navarro2012-01-31 07:17:35
Thanks for the compliment, my friend :-)


Aggelos2012-02-13 20:02:17
If only I could become one of Zimmer's minions....
Guys please, help me! I want to become a new Trevor Rabin, a new Harry Gregson-Williams, a new Mark Mancina, a new Hans Zimmer, a new Klaus Badelt, a new Nick Glennie-Smith, a new Ramin Djawadi....


What exactly does some need in order to become an apprentice, a follower, a minion, a disciple, a protege, an acolyte,a gillie, an attendant of the afore-mentioned individuals??????????
I implore/beseech you to help me!!!! I am desperate....


Anonymous2012-02-13 21:42:42
"Areozz"
Great, more mindless, boring droning from one of the members of this "Almost Official Zimmer Site" who in the beggining defended the bootleg scores and now is one of the minions who betrayed that position to turn his site in "Almost Official".


Areozz2012-02-13 23:40:14
Oh wow, did you do a whole lot hunting around this website gathering every post I've ever made and then compiling them and putting them into some kind of machine that would give you a result like that?

Congratulations, sir, on commenting on a post I made two weeks ago. Damn, you either have a shit translator or you're trying to tell me something about myself but are making an absolutely atrocious job of it. I first defended bootleg scores? But now I'm a minion who betrayed the site? WHAT DOES IT MEAN??

You think I have control over this site's "Almost Official" status? Well, thank you very much! I would like to believe so, but you are sadly mistaken. At least I have a name, coward! You might as well be anyone, but by establishing a name to myself people can recognize me--oh! Like you must have in order to have gathered the nonsensical [wrong] assumption you've made about me.


Aggelos2012-02-14 13:52:58
If only I could become a mixture of Mark Mancina, Hans Zimmer, Leonidas Leonardi, Rene Leibowitz, Hermann Boessenroth, Ivan Boutnikoff and Fabien Sevitzky.....


Mr. Fate2012-02-14 17:34:14
Aggelos, I don't know that anyone here will be able to help you much. I seem to recall some kind of contact information being posted on one of information or main pages, though.

And to everyone else in this topic: haters gonna hate.


Aggelos2012-02-14 23:05:19
Mr. Fate, I don't wanna contact the folks... What I suggest is that we have to figure out a way to steal their winning attitude.
We need to become the masters of the synthesizers, to usher a new epoch in our personal lives.


Mr. Fate2012-02-17 16:59:09
How curious!! I had just come to that same realization--although maybe for slightly different reasons than the ones you are after.


Aggelos2012-02-19 19:54:27
Mr. Fate, we need to surpass them, we need to destroy them!!!! That's why we need to stay together... They have colossal power/authority. But if we stay together and become more and more as time goes by, we shall be able to "dethrone" them. Every one last of them........

Mr. Charles reply Replies: 4 || 2012-01-29 03:57:26
Ooooooo....I didn't know Ramin Djawadi was doing this! I'm excited =)


Jen's Lůpez2012-01-31 18:40:52
I was waiting for Harry Gregson-Williams :(


Mr. Charles2012-02-11 06:43:38
Just saw it, both the film and the score are good. A few twists....


Al bundy2012-02-11 22:14:14
The score get me tired... sry.


Mr. Charles2012-02-14 01:23:37
So far I've only had a chance to listen to "I'll Take it from Here", but it's good

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2012-01-31 01:37:02
Sounds good, cant wait!

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2012-01-29 19:11:35
On peut trouver les previews ici:
cinemamusica.de/1710/urbaner-heist-thriller-erhaelt-djawadi- rhythmen-first-listen-zu-safe-house

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