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where can i find the cue sheets? thxWondring how much influence Tom Howe wille have on this score. Professor Marston was such a lovely score.All those people who complain that Hans isn't sticking to more traditional scores forget that at heart, hes a synth man who loves his synthesizers and keyboards. Hans is just as much as a musical artist as Bowie or Paul Mccartney, in the sense that he goes through musical trends and his style adapts or changes. That's just the way it is, enjoy it for what it is. <br><br>Crucify me for comparing a human to David Bowie!Wow! Stephen Barton worked on a lot of the important cues here, huh?I'm with Edmund in that I'd love for Hans to win more Oscars, but not this score. I feel like even Blade Runner 2049 is more deserving of an award than this. Sure, it works great in the film, but that shouldn't be reason enough for an Oscar. I feel like Desplat's nominated score is more deserving than this one. <br><br>"But this one has a unique sound and recording!"<br><br>Okay... a lot of scores have that. A lot of Zimmer's work has that. Doesn't make them all masterpieces.<br><br>"But we have to spite those evil reviewers who hate this score!"<br><br>Why do you let their opinion get in the way of your enjoyment? If you love it enough, the critics' opinions should only make you enjoy it more because you see something in it they don't. <br><br>I agree with George in that Hans needs to go back to a melodic sound. I don't think whether this score wins or not will change Hans' mind on that, but I do want his next Oscar winner to mean something other than, "Oh cool! I won this award because I made weird sounds!" (Which by the way, involves things like programming and a lot of other technical adjustments that have nothing to do with Hans' composing ability).
"The thing that I'm proudest about Dunkirk is you can't separate it from the film."<br>- Hans Zimmer, GQI understand, but it does not make sense.<br>You're arguing that the score for a movie released in January this year was produced before of the score of a movie that went to theaters in July. If Balfe started working on "12 strong" a year before the movie release, the same can be said of Dunkirk. It is easy to infer that the Dunkirk's score has been working since the middle of 2016! Or even before, because of the tours that Zimmer has done.<br>The music/sound design, even being simple, was not made and recorded between January and May of last year.Olive  that is when it was announced !!! Not when he did itBalfe's hiring came out in May, when Dunkirk's production was already at the end. No contest.<br><br><br>filmmusicreporter.  com/ <br> 2017/05/24/lorne-balfe-to-score-horse-soldiers/Hans finished the bulk of the score before he went on tour, you could find an interview where he himself says so. <br>Ben worked solely on Variation 15. <br>Scroll down on this page and you'll find the full cuesheet with the credits. <br>
Edmund - how do you think Zimmer wrote Dunkirk when he was on a world tour !!!Congratulations to Ben, Lorne also .Edmund - the release dates do not matter . Check out Balfe’s Facebook page and you will see he was recording 12 Strong early last year .I've only heard the suite Hybrid made. The only similarity I was aware of is the siren-like sound. <br><br>People don't realize how difficult scoring Dunkirk was. Just because you love Interstellar (I do too - it's my favorite HZ score) but that doesn't mean Dunkirk doesn't deserve to win. <br>Edmund, in all honesty what are the similarities between 12 Strong and Dunkirk? I know both scores and fail to see how they connect.Doesn't deserve an Oscar. Hans Zimmer is my favorite composer but if he didn't win for Interstellar, he shouldn't win for this. <br><br>I can seriously say that I object this score winning based on that principle. This winning over Interstellar just isn't right.
Well, the credits say that Supermarine or the oil are pure Zimmer, and also the 3 first track I think. So Balfe helped him to develop some ideas during his tour but the majority of the score is Hans' work.<br>And it does deserve an Oscar. I never heard a score like that.. If you have a problem with the score I think it comes from the script. A classical melodical music wouldn t work for this film i think.Source? I find that hard to believe considering the release dates. Even if it is true, Balfe might have been concurrently working on Dunkirk and brought over some of the ideas. I find it spectacularly improbably that he and Hans just HAPPENED to come up with the same ideas at the same time.Edmund - gets you facts right please . 12 Strong was written before DunkirkHere's an interesting opinion: I want Hans to win this one so that he DOESN'T continue making music like this. Sure its functional, but if he could reinvent the melodic score again and get back to writing memorable melodies I'd be pretty happy. He won for Lion King and then essentially abandoned that tone of music which transitioned into the Crimson Tide/The Rock sound... so maybe, just maybe, if he wins this year he'll completely reinvent his sound again and give us something both melodically memorable but also be a total game changer in terms of modern scores.I hope it doesn't win if for no other reason than so we don't have to go through 5 years of Dunkirk temp tracks (although if 12 Strong is anything to go by, too late).
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White Fang
Label: Intrada
Length: 119'13
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CD1 - MUSIC BY BASIL POLEDOURIS
  1. Main Title & Opening Credits (3:32)
  2. Golden Staircase (2:03)
  3. The Place (2:34)
  4. Death Of Kiche (2:08)
  5. Death Of Kiche (Revised) (1:14)
  6. Wolf Dance (6:48)
  7. Wolf Dance (Revised) (1:55)
  8. Slow Motion Wolves (1:15)
  9. Puppy Things (2:31)
  10. Fang On Sled (0:32)
  11. The River (1:42)
  12. The Bear Attack (3:14)
  13. The Cabin (2:14)
  14. The Cabin (Revised) (0:24)
  15. Mining Montage (0:47)
  16. Pit Fight (1:36)
  17. Jack Bit (2:51)
  18. Bonding (2:11)
  19. Just Friends (1:07)
  20. Gold Test (1:15)
  21. Fang's Revenge (1:10)
  22. Jack And White Fang (1:04)
  23. Jack Forces Fang Away (1:57)
  24. The Return (3:06)
  25. End Credits (3:51)
  26. Saloon Source (1:24)
  27. Saloon Source (Alternate) (1:19)
  28. Saloon Source #2 (1:37)
  29. Saloon Source #2 (Alternate) (1:32)
  30. Sweet Betsy From Pike (1:36)
CD2 - MUSIC BY HANS ZIMMER
  1. Opening Credits - Main Title (4:18)
  2. The Staircase (2:26)
  3. The Trek Continues (1:51)
  4. Black Wolf (8:31)
  5. Full Moon Wolf Attack (1:20)
  6. Kiche's Demise (9:40)
  7. Seasons Pass (4:23)
  8. The Bear Attack (2:38)
  9. The Mine (7:34)
  10. Fang With Jack (3:20)
  11. Vengeance Fulfilled (2:51)
  12. Home Again (8:16)
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Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-16 10:13:13
Wow! How did John Powell involved in this project? And did he something significant here in synthesizers programming?

Ds reply Replies: 10 || 2016-04-28 23:02:26
I'm listening to that score for the first time, have to say I'm impressed. I didn't realize how quick Zimmer established himself in Hollywood (although I was just born, maybe it explains why).

Barely 3 years after "Rain Man" he was already doing big movie scores like this one or Backdraft the same year. As well as two scores for Ridley Scott, and one for his brother Tony. I can't think of a single composer who managed to climb at the top so quickly.


Hybrid Soldier2016-04-28 23:18:04
Wow first time ? :)

There's some POTC 3 & Spirit lost in this !


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-28 23:18:34
I can: Junkie XL. Make of that what you will... :|

This is an okay score but I don't find it to be as engaging or catchy or involving as other Zimmer scores from around the same period, like Days of Thunder or K2 (let alone Backdraft or the awesome A League of Their Own).


Hybrid Soldier2016-04-28 23:21:57
HGW climbed quite fast too ! ;)

Oh btw speaking of K2, I want to set something straight. HZ's score for that one was done in 1992. The film originally came out in 1991 with the first score and it was decided to rescore it for Europe (and not the other way around). So Hans did it with Nick, who only joined Media Ventures in 1992 (and his first work was on Toys).


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-28 23:32:21
There's quite a few, really. I mean, David Arnold totally came out of nowhere in the mid-90s (and has since returned to nowhere, sadly). Danny Elfman's rise around the same time as Zimmer's was just as meteoric.

I'm not actually so sure about HGW, for that matter. He didn't get any really big assignments on his own until arguably Spy Game in 2001; he did a lot of collaborative work before then but usually played second fiddle to someone else (Rabin or Powell or Hans himself). Mark Mancina might be a better example for MV, coming out of pretty much nowhere to do a huge action movie like Speed. Or even Powell himself: Face/Off is a hell of a big movie to debut on!


Joshua2016-04-28 23:55:46
So what is the story with this score. Was Hans brought in to save the day here? Did they leave Basils name because of his main theme?


Ds2016-04-29 00:03:11
I guess the MV formula worked really well for those guys... Powell, Mancina, HGW, what a dream team! But in Zimmer's case I find it even more impressive, because he started the whole thing himself, without this kind of studio to get him visibility (as far as I know, at least).

As for Junkie XL... for reasons you probably know, I think he's a totally different story (and with much less merits).

Next ones I've got to discover: K2 and A League of their own. As you probably guessed, I'm back in full fanboy-mode, I'm tired of waiting for new HZ releases and for the final concert, so I'm digging into the past! :-p


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-29 00:07:54
As I understand it, the filmmakers pushed hard to get a more contemporary sound to the score, and while Basil Poledouris is no slouch at that kind of thing (just listen to his Wind score, which is amazing), I guess they ultimately ended up "soft rejecting" what he wrote and got Zimmer to come in and stop the gaps. I've never seen the movie, but from what I've read, it uses portions of both scores; mostly Poledouris for the themes and Zimmer for the action music.

It certainly sounds like a weird situation!

(Oh, and by the way, the sequel score for White Fang 2: Myth of the White Wolf, an early-career effort by John Debney, is really good! Better than either the Poledouris or the Zimmer.)


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-29 00:12:37
Even Zimmer kind of got his start off the back of Stanley Meyers, admittedly. It's how he nabbed all those little British drama movies in the late 80s like My Beautiful Launderette and The Fruit Machine. But yeah, Junkie XL is a totally different story.

Dude, A League of Their Own will blow your mind. It's like absolutely nothing else in Zimmer's career - okay, the dramatic material and themes sound like him, but the game music is this crazy, complex, energetic big-band jazz stuff which is just so much fun to listen to. Think The Incredibles on steroids. It's my favorite early Zimmer score!


Ds2016-04-29 00:23:00
Haha Edmund you make me really curious! Just managed to get my hand on A League of their own, I'll let you know what I think!

As for K2, I can't find it anywhere. It's not on iTunes (in Europe at least), it's not for download on amazon, nowhere at all. If you have a tip, please let me know :-)


Ds2016-04-29 17:34:48
Edmund, I really love that soundtrack! Very reminiscent of some of my favorite parts from Madagascar 3, actually!!

Niki reply Replies: 1 || 2012-05-21 22:02:13
Wow...Zimmer wrote this score in only 16 days!


T-Mann0362012-05-22 06:23:03
Hans have really broken the record for writing the film score.

Trent Easton Navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2012-04-22 08:25:09
Ah yes, from the days when Zimmer still wrote good scores. Really excellent stuff! Reminded why I used to love Zimmer's stuff

fabien reply Replies: 2 || 2012-03-20 17:23:38
listen at store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7430/.f


Aggelos2012-03-28 08:46:41
Shit da White Fang!?....Shit da White Fang!?....Shit da White Fang!?.... Shit da White Fang!?....


Aggelos2012-03-28 11:32:25
Fabien@, are aware of the Fabien Sevitzky orchestral transcriptions? He has orchestrated quite a lot of works to be candour...

Kusi reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-27 11:44:15
A classic Zimmer-score! Got it today and listened already twice to it :) Highly recommended!

Mr. Charles reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 23:50:08
Holy shit! I remember this movie from when I was a kid! I didn't know Basil Poledouris and Hans Zimmer did it! I am highly anticipating this =)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 20:19:19
Holy sh...!!!!! this is awesome

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 18:58:37
Wow, great!

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 17:10:33
Available now ! :)

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