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What was the reason of their swap? Why did Hans Zimmer quit Kigdom of HeavenHybrid wrote somewhere here that something happened between Streitenfeld and Ridley during Prometheus,and that was why HG-W was brought on for some rescoringI was wondering about this too. Like all of a sudden, after a couple of Ridley Scott collaborations, he disappeared.Streitenfeld's score for "All I See Is You" isn't added to this site. Does it mean, that Marc left the company?Extremely pleased with the release, remastering, and liner booklet notes.  Nice to finally have all of this music.  Sure, some things could have been done differently, like anything else.  I'll be enjoying a thorough listen this weekend, and may watch the film again, as it's been years.
Jasha just released a neat little piano album!<br>Go check it out: https://itunes.apple .com/no/album/time-lapse-ep/1452867752My only real gripes left with the score is the somewhat uninspired choral writing (and the fact that the choir sounds like samples in a lot of moments) and the reused percussion samples from every JXL action score ever since Mad Max.After repeated listens of the score and seeing the film 3 times, I'd say now that the score is MUCH better than I initially gave it credit for.<br>Alita's theme (the 4 notes first heard at 1:53 in A Discovery) is used many times throughout the score in many instrumental varieties and variations, and used to great effect in emotional scenes<br>(I Don't Even Know My Own Name, What's Your Dream?, In Time You'll Remember, With Me, I'd Give You My Heart, What Did You Do), In the Clouds especially)<br>And do yourself a favor and get I See Church from somewhere, it's the 2nd best action track of the score after Motorball.<br>--------------------<br>In short, I would now give it a 4.5 / 5 from my previous 3 / 5Hybrid, what's the story with Finale vs. Safe Now? On this page Finale is listed as Jackman and Zimmer. On the OST page, it's Jackman, Zimmer, & Jasha Klebe. The two versions are different too. Finale has a longer intro and a big outro that makes the Time thing even more obvious. So are they two different tracks with different credits, or is Safe Now just Finale clipped short?Oh man, that's a tough question...I haven't listened to Curse of the Black Pearl in a while.... He's credited on almost every track for themes used... "Fog Bound" is the big Klaus Badelt cue from that movie (the real, 5-minute one in the movie is pretty much all Klaus I believe). <br><br>But Hans appears almost everywhere in POTC 1. Sometimes it's arrangements of his themes by the other guys, sometimes it's parts of the tunes that he wrote put directly in like he wrote them... The following scenes are pretty much directly Hans, if I remember right (this is the list I'm referencing ó but as you can see, Zimmer's name is almost everywhere hans-zimmer . com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1128): <br><br>3. Captain Jack Sparrow (Hans wrote the big theme here, as well as the Jack Sparrow stuff at the end)<br>8. Breaking the Chains (more Jack Sparrow theme...) <br>17. Boarding the Dauntless (Jack Sparrow theme...)<br>24. Moonlight Serenade (Zimmer said he wrote this scene like Cinderella walking into a Metallica concert)<br> <br>Aaaaand a lot of the final fighting music is lifted directly out of the suite Zimmer wrote, so it's 90% him. But once again, his themes as arranged by other people appear everywhere. Hybrid can answer way more about all this than I can.<br>
Oh wow! Thatís all really interesting. So how much of the OST is really HAnS Zimmer then???Hans was composing The Last Samurai while the first POTC was being made. He had promised Tom Cruise and Edward Zwick (might have even signed a contract) that he would only work on The Last Samurai and no other movies at that time. So while Hans agreed to write the POTC themes for Gore Verbinski, he wasn't allowed to be credited due to his obligations to the Last Samurai. So he wrote a few themes and then handed the score off to Klaus Badelt, who got the "name" credit on the score. But the whole score is really Klaus, Geoff Zanelli, Nick Glennie Smith, Ramin Djawadi, and a few others doing arrangements of the theme that Hans wrote (and Hans writing for a couple scenes incognito, like when Elizabeth first sees the skeleton pirates). Then Klaus did do the dark "Fog Bound/Underwater March" tune, as mentioned.Canít insult me! I am genuinely curious. Whatís this about The Last Samurai???I'm not saying this to insult David, but it's funny to me that even now, 16 years later, after so many clarifications from HZ and others, people still get confused because of the way POTC 1 got credited. All because Hans had to work on The Last Samurai (which is one of my favorite scores of his, so I guess it was worth the confusion).Saw the film last sunday and loved it. Also loved what Tom Holkenborg did hear. It did not felt nor 300. RoE nor Mad MAx. It's something else and loved it how it worked in context.
he is working on the new Terminator movie?! :OCredits for Dua Lipa's single "Swan Song" for the movie:<br>Written by Dua Lipa, Justin Tranter, Kennedi Lykken, Mattias Larsson, Robin Fredriksson & Tom Holkenborg<br>Produced by Mattman & RobinMy definition of a Complete score is somewhat different. My goal is to find and mix everything you hear in the movie. Some things you find, others you don't. That's always an adventure in itself.<br><br>The source cues are not hard to find, sometimes it can be tricky to find the right performance/conductor.<br><br>In the case of TTRL, it's mostly the Beam cues that are difficult to find. Francesco Lupica wrote several pieces of Beam cues specifically for the movie, 5 of them which were used. There's also the 'Concerto for Beam' written by Powell, and there's the 'Sit back & Relax' album that was used. So to me, that's a pretty substantial (and important!) amount of music  that made it into the cut, which hardly anyone ever talks about.<br><br>Anyway, maybe a future project will tackle most of these issues.So he's scoring that and the new terminator? Damn dude's getting as busy as Henry JackmanUnless they're composed by Zimmer or someone else from RCP, I wouldn't expect source cues to appear here. And there's like two tracks with Beam in the title listed, so what else would have that name?
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Additional Music - Conductor - Orchestrator
Hans ZimmerShirley WalkerFiachra TrenchJohn Powell
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicMusic Programmer
White Fang
Label: Intrada
Length: 119'13
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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CD1 - MUSIC BY BASIL POLEDOURIS
  1. Main Title & Opening Credits (3:32)
  2. Golden Staircase (2:03)
  3. The Place (2:34)
  4. Death Of Kiche (2:08)
  5. Death Of Kiche (Revised) (1:14)
  6. Wolf Dance (6:48)
  7. Wolf Dance (Revised) (1:55)
  8. Slow Motion Wolves (1:15)
  9. Puppy Things (2:31)
  10. Fang On Sled (0:32)
  11. The River (1:42)
  12. The Bear Attack (3:14)
  13. The Cabin (2:14)
  14. The Cabin (Revised) (0:24)
  15. Mining Montage (0:47)
  16. Pit Fight (1:36)
  17. Jack Bit (2:51)
  18. Bonding (2:11)
  19. Just Friends (1:07)
  20. Gold Test (1:15)
  21. Fang's Revenge (1:10)
  22. Jack And White Fang (1:04)
  23. Jack Forces Fang Away (1:57)
  24. The Return (3:06)
  25. End Credits (3:51)
  26. Saloon Source (1:24)
  27. Saloon Source (Alternate) (1:19)
  28. Saloon Source #2 (1:37)
  29. Saloon Source #2 (Alternate) (1:32)
  30. Sweet Betsy From Pike (1:36)
CD2 - MUSIC BY HANS ZIMMER
  1. Opening Credits - Main Title (4:18)
  2. The Staircase (2:26)
  3. The Trek Continues (1:51)
  4. Black Wolf (8:31)
  5. Full Moon Wolf Attack (1:20)
  6. Kiche's Demise (9:40)
  7. Seasons Pass (4:23)
  8. The Bear Attack (2:38)
  9. The Mine (7:34)
  10. Fang With Jack (3:20)
  11. Vengeance Fulfilled (2:51)
  12. Home Again (8:16)
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Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-16 10:13:13
Wow! How did John Powell involved in this project? And did he something significant here in synthesizers programming?

Ds reply Replies: 10 || 2016-04-28 23:02:26
I'm listening to that score for the first time, have to say I'm impressed. I didn't realize how quick Zimmer established himself in Hollywood (although I was just born, maybe it explains why).

Barely 3 years after "Rain Man" he was already doing big movie scores like this one or Backdraft the same year. As well as two scores for Ridley Scott, and one for his brother Tony. I can't think of a single composer who managed to climb at the top so quickly.


Hybrid Soldier2016-04-28 23:18:04
Wow first time ? :)

There's some POTC 3 & Spirit lost in this !


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-28 23:18:34
I can: Junkie XL. Make of that what you will... :|

This is an okay score but I don't find it to be as engaging or catchy or involving as other Zimmer scores from around the same period, like Days of Thunder or K2 (let alone Backdraft or the awesome A League of Their Own).


Hybrid Soldier2016-04-28 23:21:57
HGW climbed quite fast too ! ;)

Oh btw speaking of K2, I want to set something straight. HZ's score for that one was done in 1992. The film originally came out in 1991 with the first score and it was decided to rescore it for Europe (and not the other way around). So Hans did it with Nick, who only joined Media Ventures in 1992 (and his first work was on Toys).


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-28 23:32:21
There's quite a few, really. I mean, David Arnold totally came out of nowhere in the mid-90s (and has since returned to nowhere, sadly). Danny Elfman's rise around the same time as Zimmer's was just as meteoric.

I'm not actually so sure about HGW, for that matter. He didn't get any really big assignments on his own until arguably Spy Game in 2001; he did a lot of collaborative work before then but usually played second fiddle to someone else (Rabin or Powell or Hans himself). Mark Mancina might be a better example for MV, coming out of pretty much nowhere to do a huge action movie like Speed. Or even Powell himself: Face/Off is a hell of a big movie to debut on!


Joshua2016-04-28 23:55:46
So what is the story with this score. Was Hans brought in to save the day here? Did they leave Basils name because of his main theme?


Ds2016-04-29 00:03:11
I guess the MV formula worked really well for those guys... Powell, Mancina, HGW, what a dream team! But in Zimmer's case I find it even more impressive, because he started the whole thing himself, without this kind of studio to get him visibility (as far as I know, at least).

As for Junkie XL... for reasons you probably know, I think he's a totally different story (and with much less merits).

Next ones I've got to discover: K2 and A League of their own. As you probably guessed, I'm back in full fanboy-mode, I'm tired of waiting for new HZ releases and for the final concert, so I'm digging into the past! :-p


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-29 00:07:54
As I understand it, the filmmakers pushed hard to get a more contemporary sound to the score, and while Basil Poledouris is no slouch at that kind of thing (just listen to his Wind score, which is amazing), I guess they ultimately ended up "soft rejecting" what he wrote and got Zimmer to come in and stop the gaps. I've never seen the movie, but from what I've read, it uses portions of both scores; mostly Poledouris for the themes and Zimmer for the action music.

It certainly sounds like a weird situation!

(Oh, and by the way, the sequel score for White Fang 2: Myth of the White Wolf, an early-career effort by John Debney, is really good! Better than either the Poledouris or the Zimmer.)


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-29 00:12:37
Even Zimmer kind of got his start off the back of Stanley Meyers, admittedly. It's how he nabbed all those little British drama movies in the late 80s like My Beautiful Launderette and The Fruit Machine. But yeah, Junkie XL is a totally different story.

Dude, A League of Their Own will blow your mind. It's like absolutely nothing else in Zimmer's career - okay, the dramatic material and themes sound like him, but the game music is this crazy, complex, energetic big-band jazz stuff which is just so much fun to listen to. Think The Incredibles on steroids. It's my favorite early Zimmer score!


Ds2016-04-29 00:23:00
Haha Edmund you make me really curious! Just managed to get my hand on A League of their own, I'll let you know what I think!

As for K2, I can't find it anywhere. It's not on iTunes (in Europe at least), it's not for download on amazon, nowhere at all. If you have a tip, please let me know :-)


Ds2016-04-29 17:34:48
Edmund, I really love that soundtrack! Very reminiscent of some of my favorite parts from Madagascar 3, actually!!

Niki reply Replies: 1 || 2012-05-21 22:02:13
Wow...Zimmer wrote this score in only 16 days!


T-Mann0362012-05-22 06:23:03
Hans have really broken the record for writing the film score.

Trent Easton Navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2012-04-22 08:25:09
Ah yes, from the days when Zimmer still wrote good scores. Really excellent stuff! Reminded why I used to love Zimmer's stuff

fabien reply Replies: 2 || 2012-03-20 17:23:38
listen at store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7430/.f


Aggelos2012-03-28 08:46:41
Shit da White Fang!?....Shit da White Fang!?....Shit da White Fang!?.... Shit da White Fang!?....


Aggelos2012-03-28 11:32:25
Fabien@, are aware of the Fabien Sevitzky orchestral transcriptions? He has orchestrated quite a lot of works to be candour...

Kusi reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-27 11:44:15
A classic Zimmer-score! Got it today and listened already twice to it :) Highly recommended!

Mr. Charles reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 23:50:08
Holy shit! I remember this movie from when I was a kid! I didn't know Basil Poledouris and Hans Zimmer did it! I am highly anticipating this =)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 20:19:19
Holy sh...!!!!! this is awesome

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 18:58:37
Wow, great!

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 17:10:33
Available now ! :)

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