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Right. The difference between Zimmer and many other composers (for me at least) is that you can almost immediately tell if you like a Zimmer score off the bat. DMTNT is something that needs a few listens to grow on you, and so far I'm liking what I hear.<br><br>When I heard Fantastic Beasts for the first time I was initially disappointed but after about 3 listens and hearing it in context it became my favorite score of the year. Everyone is different of course, but I feel like this score will grow on people with time.Well... as you say, Zanelli's tunes tend to be less streamlined. You can hear it in his themes for Into the West, The Pacific, Outlander (the movie) and even the Spaniards themes in OST. <br><br>Not to say Zimmer's aren't great in their own merit, but are not always the same exact approach.For everyone complaining about the mix of this album don't forget, nothing beats Curse of the Black Pearl in terms of an awful recording mix. When you have a 'synthy' sounding orchestra and bass gain distortions that actually make it to album this really isn't anything in comparison.<br><br>And I think the key difference between Zimmer and Zanelli (at least on this franchises' terms) is that most of the themes Zimmer wrote for the franchise (Davy Jones, Beckett, Kraken, pretty much all of the original tunes from the 1st one, etc.) were actually incredibly simplistic. Geoff's tunes are less streamlined. They aren't bad by any means, but it's telling when the strongest parts are the reprises of things like Hoist the Colours and Marry Me."How did they manage to make a 100 piece orchestra sound like a demo for an off the shelf sample library?"<br><br>MV/RC has existed for over two decades now and you're actually still surprised at this? XDfinal veredict?
Oh dear . Where is the theme ?Comes across very likeable and enthusiastic.Now I'm even more excited!I'm on track 9 at the moment. Nothing especially memorable so far, but I do love the return of the Love Theme and Hoist the Colors.<br><br>Salazar's theme isn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it does seem to get repetative quickly. Hopefully the score isn't as blatantly bad on-screen as OST was. That film and score was a mess.Cool insight on POTC 5 !
Now that the album is out there I can easily say that I love this score. Definitely my 2nd favorite behind MoS. <br><br>Musically, much of it has that "Last Samurai/Transformers" power anthem style (with one of the themes sounding like King Arthur) but with RGW's string writing style as opposed to the bass heavy approach of those scores. The WW cello theme isn't used a whole lot, but when it gets some screen time it feels earned, and steals the show. The villain material is the weakest part, but instrumentally is pretty cool with the incorporation of the cimbalom (it reminds me slightly of Sherlock at points)<br><br>Overall, easily one of the best scores so far this year.Hans has not done this one because he was working on dunkirk at the time as far as I know. I saw the movie last night and for sure things like "What shall we die for", "One day", "Jack Sparrow", the legendary "He's a pirate" or even the bit of the musical clock/bell theme from davy jones and Calypso at the VERY end of the film are things that Hans wrote of course. In the movie itself you hear this stuff very often especially in the first hour of the movie which is packed with old themes. But Geoff Zanelli still wrote the other 60%/65% of the music so I can imagine that Hans said that they can give it to Zanelli because even if most of the themes are from Hans, he was most likely not heavily involved at the writing and scoring process. He was most likely there at the beginning of the process like Zanelli said in an interview and made sure that this story needed things like one day or the medallion calls. And he is not credited because of the fact that he was doing dunkirk and for sure his live tour and so he was like mentioned before only there at the beginning of the process and wrote/refined the new versions of one day or he's a pirate if he did anything. But i thought as well that they could have mentioned him in the credits like they mentioned Zanelly or even Steve Jablonsky in the credits of the first one or John Williams at Rogue One.I missed that, sorry! I agree with your other comment.<br><br>Jackman's contribution to the 2nd half of love suite, his rollicking orchestral mayhem in "I don't know if now is the best time" provide plenty of evidence of him imposing his style effectively on the material. <br>"Going back to ground 0" doesn't mean "make a poor movie".<br>I would like more Pirates movies, but not if they make them as bad as the 4th and 5th ones. They could have written an original story (I'm sure there are good writers out there who could have found something fresh) and started a new adventure just like the 2nd and 3rd movies did. It's not impossible.<br>But rather they just tried to remake the 1st movie. If they did it for the 5th one, why do you think they wouldn't do it for the 6th one? Judging by the post-credit scene, they are clearly not afraid of ripping off the previous movies even more... :-DHi Hans!<br><br>Your scores helped me pass through difficult times, in life.<br>Never heard music that touches me so deep inside.<br>Thanks - to you and your Team - and go on like this.<br>When do you come to Germany with your Team (live in concert)?<br><br>If you like to answer: atlantis42195@gmail.com<br>------------------------------------------<br>Hallo Hans!<br><br>Ein dickes Lob an Sie und Ihr Team.<br>Ihre Musik half mir, durch schwere Zeiten im Leben zu kommen.<br>Nie zuvor kannte ich Musik, welche mich derart berührt.<br>Wann kommen Sie wieder nach Deutschland, mit Ihrem Team?<br><br>Weiter so und beste Grüße, aus Düsseldorf!<br>Falls Sie antworten möchten:atlantis42195@gmail.com<br><br>Jill W.<br>
Yeah... I know what you mean...<br><br>First of all, I want this movie to be a fun ride. I cannot ask of it what I would ask of a Nolan production, for once. But I know I cannot ask of this movie what I would ask of a 2nd or a 3rd part. I say this because since DMTNT begins production they (producers) hinted it was the BEGINNING of a new adventure, So they had to go back to "ground 0". And is not too difficult to guess that they'd try the Star Wars formula; POTC 5 is basically Force Awakens in its intentions at the least.<br><br>So what really put me off is the fact that all this hate will only cause to not greenlit more adventures :( , because, well.. apparently audience doesn't want this dessert anymore.If that cheesy ending was "so so cool", it's just because it's a powerful reminder of how beautiful the 3rd movie was. And even more so in comparison to this dreadful 5th outing.Yeah I made a shitty suite ! :( :( :( lolLots of people complaining about the film and the score, makes me a little bit irritated. Of course this was never gonna reach the level of the first films. It never will be, it's been 10 years. I am a hugh fan of these films and after watching the new film I felt so good. That cheesy ending was actually so so cool. The movie wasn't perfect put they did some good things in it. I haven't heard this album yet but I listened to the samples and everything I wanted on this album, I did hear those parts in the samples. Afterwards I was humming that new adventure theme all day, even how unoriginal it is. It's cool and Carina's theme is a great new addition. This score is much than On Stranger Tides maybe think about that. Let this score grow on you. Most people now base their opinion on just this suite. Honestly ? It doens't reflect the score that well.I have yet to listen to the score, and I will after see the movie because I want to experience it on the movie itself first.<br><br>But if you read the very insightful interview with Zanelli for filmmusicamg, he talks about the "differences" between composers at RCP, and when Zimmer liked something of Zenelli its because, in Zimmer's words "it sounds so Geoff" (I think he was racalling it about Tia Dalma's theme and the tribal island music from DMC). So I think is kind of unfair to expect Geoff's music to sound very Zimmer's, realistically speaking. <br><br>I've been listening Zanelli's scores a few years now, and I think I Identify his style and his type os themes, which are not like Zimmer`s at all (talking about notes specifically)... so based on his scores I expect this to be a very Geoff Zanelli score leaning to POTC style and just a little of Zimmer.<br><br>You can see the differences in the OST album, just listen on what Zimmer composed and the listen the Spaniard's theme, which is by Zanelli.
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Madagascar 3 - Europe's Most Wanted
Label: Interscope Records
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  1. New York City Surprise (3:05)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Jasha Klebe, Peter Asher, Dave Stewart
  2. Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now) (2:15)
    Danny Jacob, Robert Clivilles, Freedom Williams, Stephen Hilton
  3. Wannabe (2:37)
    Danny Jacob, Jessica Weiss, Spice Girls, Matthew Rowbottom, Richard Stannard, Stephen Hilton
  4. Game On (3:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  5. Hot In Here (2:27)
    Danny Jacob, Jessica Weiss, Cornell Haynes, Pharrell Williams, Charles Brown, Stephen Hilton
  6. We No Speak Americano - Yolanda Be Cool (4:29)
  7. Light The Hoop On Fire! (3:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  8. Fur Power! (2:18)
    Edward Elgar, Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Jasha Klebe
  9. Non Je Ne Regrette Rien (1:13)
    Frances McDormand, Charles Dumont, Michel Vaucaire, Jasha Klebe
  10. Love Always Comes As A Surprise (3:21)
    Peter Asher, Dave Stewart, Jasha Klebe
  11. Rescue Stefano (5:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Junkie XL
  12. Firework - Katy Perry (3:46)
  13. Afro Circus / I Like To Move It (2:41)
    Chris Rock, Danny Jacob, Julius Fucik, Erick Morillo, Hans Zimmer, Stephen Hilton
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Dragonseeker reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-02 21:12:27
Any news about The Boss Baby? I just read that Hans Zimmer is scoring this.


Ds2016-10-03 08:16:54
Yes, there is news: Hans Zimmer is scoring it :-)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2014-12-05 00:32:01
Please tell me someone else hears Night at the Museum in the very beginning of Light the Hoop on Fire! :P

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2014-12-03 23:25:14
What does the booklet mean crediting "Penguin World" to JunkieXL?


Anonymous2014-12-04 15:43:21
it probably means JXL took care of the Penguins' music in the score.

Zimson reply Replies: 1 || 2014-02-24 00:06:53
Afro Circus / I Like To Move It is by Junkie XL, right?


Zimson2014-02-24 20:38:14
I got another question. The melody in "Fur Power!" sounds very familiar to me. Where is it taken from? (Or was it even taken from anywhere?)

Felix reply Replies: 1 || 2012-07-31 19:15:34
Session:

1. Opening (1:22)
2. Bad Dream-New York City (3:11)
3. I Wish We Could Go Home (0:44)
4. Chimp Hotel Source (0:34)
5. Chimp Hotel Source (Alt.) (0:41)
6. Main Title-Clandestine Monte Carlo (1:28)
7. Everybody Dance (1:20)
8. I'm Gonna Lead (2:13)
9. Casino Escape (1:13)
10. If You Want To Be My Lover (0:18)
11. Meet Dubois-Escape Continues (1:22)
12. Luxury Assault Urban Recreational Vehicle (0:50)
13. Dubois on the Scene (1:05)
14. Monte Carlo Chase Pt. 1 (1:27)
15. Monte Carlo Chase Pt. 2 (1:00)
16. Monte Carlo Chase Pt. 3 (2:35)
17. Julian is Saved (0:35)
18. We Gotta Get Home (0:51)
19. The Fuzz-Meet the Circus-Escape (2:19)
20. Knife Sting-We're Going to Africa (1:04)
21. Vitality (1:04)
22. Meet Sonja the Bear (1:11)
23. Dubois Tracks the Zoosters (1:31)
24. Dubois Tracks the Zoosters (Alt.) (1:35)
25. Rome (0:46)
26. Backstage Rome (1:13)
27. Con Te Partiro (1:37)
28. Gia (1:49)
29. Dubois-Where There is Smoke There is Lion (1:24)
30. Saber Dance (1:35)
31. Saber Dance (Alt.) (1:38)
32. Saber Dance Reprise (0:54)
33. Italian Police-Dubois Escapes (1:40)
34. Where Did Alex Go (1:10)
35. Circus Zaragoza-Vitaly's Story (3:27)
36. Phase 4-7B (0:41)
37. Circus is in Here-Pomp and Circumstance (3:12)
38. Non, Je Ne Regrette Backing Track (1:27)
39. Cannonball (2:44)
40. Training Montage-Alex and Gia (0:53)
41. Training Montage Mid (1:05)
42. Training Montage End (1:21)
43. Love Ballad (3:34)
44. Circus Train (2:05)
45. London (1:21)
46. Alex Encourages Vitaly (2:50)
47. Fireworks Sweetener #1 (0:33)
48. London Celebration-Dubois on the Hunt (3:17)
49. Julian And Sonja Breakup (1:43)
50. Back to NY (4:56)
51. Back in the Zoo (0:41)
52. Dubois and the Venon Ver. 1 (3:11)
53. Dubois and the Venon Ver. 2 (3:16)
54. Circus to the Rescue (0:38)
55. Rescue Stefano (2:34)
56. Afro Circus-Move It (2:56)


Gaga2012-07-31 22:36:14
The Recording Sessions are out now !!!

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 2 || 2012-07-31 06:09:38
I LOVE this soundtrack!!!!


//////2012-07-31 06:54:48
Well, the sessions are now out. Is that why you cam here, T-Mann?

Wonder if Hybrid Soldier will create the page


T-Mann0362012-07-31 15:47:49
I just don't want to spoil the surprise, //////. Who knows...

Timur reply Replies: 0 || 2012-06-23 16:43:17
Good day.

Could you tell me, what is name of original tune used in composition Afro Circus (i like 2 move it is not meant)

Ds reply Replies: 7 || 2012-06-02 22:59:07
Just saw the movie, it was great fun with absurd humor and incredible stylish effects. The score was great, with several new themes, but there will definitely be a LOAD of great missing cues... as expected :/

Look forward to the album! nice job from Zimmer & Balfe!


Anonymous2012-06-03 23:40:14
All recent sequel scores by Hans Zimmer have been unacceptably short. Makes me wonder what is going to become of Dark Knight Rises.


Mr. Fate2012-06-04 03:53:58
While this score looks to be longer than both Rango and Pirates 4, it is still a bit shorter than the slightly older Zimmer outputs like Pirates 3 and Sherlock Holmes.

What startles me about this track list is track number 9...Hmmm, where else have we seen that song get used before? While it looks to be not the whole song, wouldn't it be dandy if it was in stereo?


Mr. Charles2012-06-04 06:42:21
I'm hoping the reason OST & AGoS have sucked so bad is that Hans has been hard at work making TDKR a masterpiece of a score. And if not, I just may lose all hope in mankind


Ds2012-06-04 08:43:22
Mr Charles, I completely agree.

But I promise you, the score for Madagascar 3 is very cool, far from a simple remixing of the old themes! Hans is back, that's a good news for TDKR :)


Mr. Fate2012-06-07 19:24:04
Oops, I take back everything I said a couple days ago. See, I didn't realize that over half of this soundtrack was made up of songs by various artists, and if other sources are right, we are left only with about 18 minutes of score.

That is simply obscene. Rango was 34 minutes long, but then we stepped it up a bit with Pirates 4 coming in at 45 minutes...except that if you remove all the unused, irrelevant Rodrigo y Gabriela pieces you're left with only 26 minutes of actual score.

Now we only have 18 minutes?? We could expect the trend to continue until we're left with an album full of various artists' music and one 2-minute long cue from Zimmer, and after that, he'll just stop releasing his music altogether!

Also, I see from other sources that "Non Je Ne Regrette Rien" was not performed by Edith Piaf, so there goes that hope. Rant over.


Ds2012-06-08 09:12:46
Mr Fate: you're right, but let's look back in the '90. "True Romance", "Days of Thunder", "Rain Man", .... They ALL were compilations with 2 or 3 Zimmer cues.

Here, the label wants clearly to please the kids with songs... It's sad but it is so. It's still better than Madagascar 1 & 2.

I find the Zimmer cues here very cool, with 2 or 3 good new themes.


Mr. Charles2012-06-08 09:55:57
Ahh! I love True Romance! "You're So Cool" is one of my favorite Zimmer pieces :D

Phil reply Replies: 1 || 2012-06-06 18:24:28
in the Austrian iTunes store there is instead of the track "We No Speak Americano" the song "Cool Jerk" from The Capitols! can anybody explain me why?


Hybrid Soldier2012-06-07 17:36:41
Yeah the French lossless digital store (meaning, Qobuz... :P) I bought it from has indeed Cool Jerk instead of We Speak No Americano.

Weird... :P

But, who cares, it's not like they replaced a score cue... :)

elegyscore reply Replies: 0 || 2012-06-06 20:05:18
check youtube.com/watch?v=zXwrWzlgjls

short Interview with HZ on his Madagascar 3 score.

Warfighter reply Replies: 4 || 2012-05-14 20:55:11
Samples are available!

filmmusicreporter.com/2012/05/14/madagascar-3-europes-most-w anted-soundtrack-details/


Warfighter2012-05-14 20:56:24

track 9: Light The Hoop On Fire! sounds promising

only 5 score tracks...pity

oh well...it's enough to keep us going till TDKR!


Ds2012-05-14 21:54:40
5 tracks! Over 17 min of score! it's an improvement, considering the first score was over 10 min and the 2nd did contain only 3 pure score tracks from Zimmer :)


Hybrid Soldier2012-05-14 22:42:10
There's not "only" 5 tracks of score...

Actually the only "non" score material is Katy Perry & Yolande Be Cool's tracks.

All rest is handled by HZ's team.


Warfighter2012-05-16 02:22:27
@Hybrid Great to hear that! It's just i'm more into instrumental score than songs :D but you're right: this is Madagascar...songs will be fun!

I'm looking forward to it!

Ehsan reply Replies: 0 || 2012-05-14 20:54:25
Here’s the album track list:

1. New York City Surprise – Hans Zimmer
2. Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now) – Danny Jacobs
3. Wannabe – Danny Jacobs
4. Game On – Hans Zimmer
5. Hot In Herre – Danny Jacobs
6. We No Speak Americano – Yolanda Be Cool
7. Light The Hoop On Fire! – Hans Zimmer
8. Fur Power! – Hans Zimmer
9. Non Je Ne Regrette Rien – Frances McDormand
10. Love Always Comes As A Surprise – Peter Asher
11. Rescue Stefano – Hans Zimmer
12. Firework – Katy Perry
13. Afro Circus/I Like To Move It – Chris Rock

tomPoland reply Replies: 1 || 2012-05-12 11:44:59
So, Balfe and minions will do the work, and Hans will again put his name on the cover...


Ds2012-05-12 12:27:53
I don't think so. How do you explain then why the Zimmer scores are always better than the "minion"-alone scores?

Enjoy the great music from Zimmer & co and stop complaining! The music is more than what's written on the cover :)

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2012-05-12 02:03:23
Something to wait until The Dark Knight Rises is out :)

And i like A LOT the Madagascar themes. Just hope that we get a lot of score material!

Phil reply Replies: 0 || 2012-05-11 21:39:13
can't await it!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2012-05-11 20:27:42
Everybody Dance Noooooowww !

Save Gotham reply Replies: 0 || 2012-05-11 20:27:35
Waiting for a Great music of a Great Fun again ?

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