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Its Imagine the Fire insertThe Japanese version can be ordered here: http: //www.cdjapan.co.jp/ product/WPCR-18185<br><br>The "Swan Song" is also included on the CD. So it has 3 additional tracks.Theres quite a bit of good unreleased stuff from this score. Stuff like the cue that plays during Alita's first game of motorball with the other kids, the bar fight music, the unused string rendition of Alita's theme and the end titles arrangement of Motorball/Swan Song.Does anyone have the "Motorball" cue from end credits? It sounds like the beginning of the "Motorball" track but it's different than on the OST. It plays directly after the Swan Song track...<br><br>Why is it left off the CD?Huh... Do people at RCP ask H-Z.com to use the official, less accurate credits in some cases? I seem to recall some credit fiasco on POTC4.
So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.
I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridgeThat's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.
Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.
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Conductor - OrchestratorMusic Producer - Music Scoring Mixer & Recordist
Hans ZimmerShirley WalkerJay Rifkin
ComposerAdditional MusicMusic Producer
Black Rain (Limited)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 141'57
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
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CD1
  1. Sato Pt. 1 - One-Way Glass (6:34)
  2. Osaka - Phony Cops (1:46)
  3. You Gonna Be Nice? - Sato Pt. 2 (5:21)
  4. Sato Watching - Circling Motorbikes (1:59)
  5. Sugai's Photo - Sato Pt. 3 (3:58)
  6. Sato Pt. 4 (2:05)
  7. Charlie Loses His Head (8:22)
  8. Sequins (2:42)
  9. Masa's Reprimand - Sugai Pt. 1 (5:33)
  10. The Steel Mill (2:45)
  11. Steel Mill Chase - Airplane - Escape (6:18)
  12. Sugai Pt. 2 (8:50)
  13. Arrival Of Oyabuns - Sato's Arrival - Meeting (7:55)
  14. Bikes - Fight - Nick And Masa (9:29)
CD2
    ORIGINAL EMI ALBUM
  1. Livin' On The Edge Of The Night - Iggy Pop (3:38)
  2. The Way You Do The Things You Do - UB 40 (3:15)
  3. Back To Life - Soul II Soul (5:07)
  4. Laserman - Ryuichi Sakamoto (4:48)
  5. Singing In The Shower - Les Rita Mitsouko & Sparks (4:22)
  6. I'll Be Holding On - Gregg Allman (5:38)
    BLACK RAIN SUITE
  7. Sato (4:45)
  8. Charlie Loses His Head (7:03)
  9. Sugai (6:55)
  10. Nick And Masa (2:52)
    BONUS TRACKS
  11. Airplane Muzak (Source) - Shirley Walker (2:05)
  12. Charlie Loses His Head Pt. 1 (Alternate Percussion) (2:32)
  13. Charlie Loses His Head Pt. 2 (Alternate With Koto & Oboe) (2:47)
  14. Masa's Reprimand (Alternate) (1:49)
  15. Bikes - Fight (Alternate) (3:18)
  16. Bikes (Percussion Only) (1:35)
  17. Charlie Loses His Head (Monks Wild) (2:12)
  18. I'll Be Holding On (Main Title Version) - Gregg Allman (2:36)
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Frank reply Replies: 0 || 2014-04-08 05:02:43
The last part of "Charlie loses his head" seems to be the source of Dark Knight, it is very similar with the theme from TDKR

MacArthur reply Replies: 1 || 2013-08-27 02:44:24
Love This Soundtrack


Tommy2013-11-20 15:40:35
yeah, me too !! 5/5

kwolf reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-05 03:09:36
with all the respect in the world for mr zimmer and i think in modern times he is as GOOD as IT WAS the legendary ENNIO MORRICONE do have a question on the soundtrack on BLACK rain..i've searched all his soundtrack who are brilliant but i've missed one..when SUGAI enters the club and before that minute 54 and 15-20-30 seconds what's the name of the song..it;s driving me mad searching for it..i have the original dvd and all sound track on my computer all except that!!

Trent Easton Navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-27 18:18:23
La La Land has announced that they'll release another Zimmer score next year! Really curious which one it'll be.

Days of Thunder would be very cool. And I'm still hoping for an expanded The Peacemaker.

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T-Mann036 reply Replies: 9 || 2012-10-01 03:21:37
This is ultimately one of the best film scores Hans have ever composed in 1990. Even for an expanded score with additional music from the late Shirley Walker and recording artists from UB40, Iggy Pop, etc., this is truly a must have and a part of the RCP Collector's library.


Cloud2012-10-01 13:34:31
To me this is one of the best scores he has ever composed, period. It's easily among my top 3 favorites of his. Then again, when I listen to Hans, I listen almost always to his late 80s/90s/early 00s stuff.


Dawn2012-10-02 13:11:20
@Cloud I feel the same. Late 80's, all 90's and early 2000's... what a great era for film music lovers !


Aggelos2012-10-03 11:49:42
You're right folks. Late '80s and '90s contain the most fantastic stuff from the RCP team. From early 2000, it would seem that the decline-twilight of the memorable theme/cues begins....

Sanguinely, LLL and Intrada will bring to light more of them (remember Intrada's White Fang).


Cloud2012-10-03 13:41:15
I included the early 00s solely because of scores like Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, Hannibal, Spirit or The Last Samurai. These are all great. To me, the last big score of that era was King Arthur. After that, things started to change considerably.

That being said, I really hope LLL or someone decides to release Bird on a Wire and Days of Thunder.


Trent Easton Navarro2012-10-03 16:16:15
Yeah, King Arthur was probably Zimmer's last great score.

And I second Bird on Wire and Days of Thunder! But great scores that need to be released officially


Ds2012-10-03 22:52:58
I think you people are forgetting Pirates 2 & 3! Especially the 3rd!


Prott2012-10-03 23:15:57
... and The Da Vinci Code (at least).


Dawn2012-10-04 01:17:40
Yes, Da Vinci Code and Pirates 3, or even Inception were really good in their own right... but they were exceptions in this "new" era.

I don't know if it is film music that changed, or if it was just me, but from 1995 to 2003, I was excited every 3 months with something new. Then it started to decrease.
Yes I liked King Arthur, but it was not half as good as Gladiator or Black Hawk Down were.
Batman Begins, though it is now iconic and an important evolution in film music, still remains for me a little bit uninteresting and weak.

Maybe I started to get older and lost some natural childood enthusiasm ? Or was there a real decline in quality or inspiration ?... don't know.


fabien2012-11-01 18:13:53
some amazing unreleased part of Nick and Masa theme now released !!!!

bongo reply Replies: 2 || 2012-09-30 18:29:22
Just wondering does this release contain more unreleased music than the complete score bootleg release?


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-30 19:37:25
It does. ;)


bongo2012-09-30 22:45:54
Thankee, ordering right now!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 15 || 2012-06-30 20:55:15
Just announced by LLL, to be released later !!! :D


Anonymous2012-06-30 21:07:05
You beat me to it! Wahey!!!


Adrian2012-07-01 01:33:35
A big like, great news :-)


Ravi2012-07-01 06:27:49
Indeed, great news! So cool to see all these awesome HZ scores being released - Broken Arrow, White Fang and now this. Here's hoping that Lion King and Gladiator aren't too far. :-)


Cloud2012-07-01 17:02:01
Oh, boy. LLL saves the day once again. Black Rain has to be the quintessential Zimmer action score and my absolute alltime favorite of his. This is as good as ordered.


Mikel SiW (a fan from Spain)2012-07-02 13:31:32
Another miracle from La-La Land!!


Pawel Stroinski2012-07-30 01:15:23
The score will be probably released this August. Lala already "announced" that it will be their next release.


Aggelos2012-09-17 14:25:34
No August dudes. End of Sep or early October.
It's gonna be the wickedness!!! LLL needs to tackle more Media Ventures stuff! What on earth have they been doin'?.....

I'm losing my composure and patience!


Aggelos2012-09-18 09:16:17
The shit will be out September 25.
If not, then October 9.


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-18 16:44:12
Coming next week, the 25th !!!! :D


Aggelos2012-09-18 17:32:38
You don't say, bro! Count me in! It's about time to get another fine Zimmer release by triple L. Stop your grinning and drop your linen!

I was hoping some signed copies but the out hopes were trashed by "No signed Black Rain copies. Altough the project was produced with the blessing of Mr. Zimmer."


Trent Easton Navarro2012-09-18 20:00:03
Definitely looking forward to this one! One of Zimmer's finest action scores!


Aggelos2012-09-21 14:59:35
Guys, this score was conducted by Shirley. But what exactly did Shirley conduct in this one?
Was she conducting Hans' fingers whilst he performing and sequencing the music on his synthesizer?


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-21 19:23:42
There's an orchestra in that score.

Not a big one, but there is... ;)


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-25 22:23:36
And here we go ! :)


Aggelos2012-09-26 19:06:02
Yes bro! Freaking ordered without second thoughts!!

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