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So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Thanks MIKE, Any ideas of how can I Google it?
Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridgeThat's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.
@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.
I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.Does anyone know where you can get a digital version of the Japanese versions 2 bonus tracks?Comparing it to YFM’s sfx edit this is what I’ve got;<br><br>“The Mole” seems to be an alternate of the opening sequence. The first minute or so is used, while the rest isn’t. “We Need Our Army Back/Regimental Brothers” are both made up of several cues from different points in the film. <br>“Home” is completely different in the film, which makes me think it may have been recorded specifically for the album. Similar situation with “Oil”. <br>“Supermarine” is definitely a suite. The rest is chronological.<br><br>Interesting thing to note, it seems like a lot of the tempo changes/ticking effects/bass overlays were removed from the album release, making almost every track sound different from the actual film versions. The music in context has a constant pulse going, especially in the way cues segue into each other and change tempo.It's not really possible to chronologically order the album because the album doesn't use the same tracks as the movie. Plus, the album is more or less chronological anyway, given the areas where they are the same.<br>With the complete cue sheet out now. Does anyone know what the chronological order of the album would be?
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The Lion King II - Simba's Pride
Label: Disney Records
Length: 62'29
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  1. He Lives in You (3:08)
  2. We Are One - Cam Clarke (3:45)
  3. Upendi - Liz Callaway (2:54)
  4. One of Us (2:40)
  5. My Lullaby - Andy Dick (2:54)
  6. Love Will Find a Way - Liz Callaway (3:00)
  7. We Are One - Angélique Kidjo (4:10)
  8. She Believes in You (3:55)
  9. Song for the Children (2:31)
  10. I Want to See the Moon (4:20)
  11. Lion Sleeps Tonight (3:35)
  12. Love Will Find a Way (End Title) - Heather Headley (4:31)
  13. He Lives in You (TRF vers) only on the japanese version (4:36)
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ggctuk reply Replies: 5 || 2013-02-14 23:35:50
I've noticed something curious during my digging into the ASCAP archies: one cue, apparently simply titled "The Lion King" which is also assigned the name "Lion King II Cues", was done by Zimmer. It wouldn't refer to the only pre-existing track in the film ("He Lives In You") which according to my copy of Rhythm Of The Pride Lands, Zimmer had nothing to do. It'd be a stretch to say it would be the end hit of "Circle Of Life" which can be heard at the title card. So, I'm wondering if Zimmer DID compose something for the film, maybe something that ended up rejected.


Anonymous2016-06-15 03:26:30
just now seeing this but that sounds interesting. did they originally want zimmer involved? i mean nick glennie smith is the next best thing for this series but that would be interesting


Edmund Meinerts2016-06-15 10:44:21
Zimmer probably demands far too high a price tag for a direct-to-DVD Disney sequel to afford.


Mike 2016-06-15 17:04:28
Well, he did do some consulting with Daniel Pelfrey for Joseph: King of Dreams following Prince of Egypt and, according to Pelfrey's website, helped out with song production. Granted, that's not nearly the same as being onboard for the project. :P


Mike 2016-06-15 17:05:44
...and "Joseph" was Dreamworks, not Disney, which Zimmer has always been involved with anyway.


ggctuk2016-06-16 09:01:54
I'd completely forgotten about this being a thing. I agree with Edmund: Zimmer was probably too expensive for a direct-to-video sequel. I wouldn't have been surprised if he did consultation work with Nick Glennie-Smith.

ggctuk reply Replies: 0 || 2012-04-26 23:19:35
Sad that none of the score is on here, despite it not being a shade on Zimmer's score for the first, it did have some good moments that would have made nice suites. His site has a few low-fi tracks in mono, but that's not the same thing.

Maybe someday, if Intrada keeps delving into the Disney Vault, the scores to all the Lion King films will appear, if not complete, then at least expanded. Here's hoping.

Deakins reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-16 00:00:00
Yes! The music of 'Lion King' is a pre-pirate composition. The theme is the same with a little variation and the old percus of MediaVentures.

Nick Glennie Smith is really one of the best composers of Remote Control sequels.

Kristy reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-14 00:00:00
I couldn't stop thinking of Pirates and Johnny Depp when watching the action scenes of this movie.

joop reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-07 00:00:00
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Mark reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-30 00:00:00
Shameful music compaired to Zimmer's score. If they ever make another Lion King movie please bring ZIMMER back!!!!

Suicune reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-08 00:00:00
The soundtrack is great but I wonder why isn't a score track on the CD.

Kiara reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-20 00:00:00
Love it Love it Love IT ^ ^

Stephan Suwon Johansen reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-17 00:00:00
I LOVE THE SONGS!!!

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I hoped there would be another movie of lion king where kovu and kiara get's a boy or a girl, then there would be more good music too ^^

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