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Oh, yes.<br><br>Maybe this month, right?The album is ready. Just waiting for legal to settle it... It'll happen.And about The Rhythm Section?, Mazzaro said the score is mastered...If there'd only been the first movie prior, I think I'd get it a bit more. But the 2nd film did have a proper score release, so the only reason at this point is that it just isn't on Nick's mind after all the delays.Whoa, why not? Every obscure random shit gets released these days but a Hans Zimmer score to a fairly big mainstream movie doesn't?
I doubt there'll be a score release.The Spongebob movie is being released next Friday here in Canada, could we see a release of the album soon? Assuming of course that there will be an album at all /:I gotta say that short film was spectacular even with I Phone 11, the score by Lorne Balfe fitted very well with the scenes introduced.I'd say that this anthem was pretty great for Zimmer to score a soccer team that has been alive for 25 years.Cheers guys, much appreciated!<br>In my mind I had some video interview though, as I always like watching those as well. I do wonder if there was an extra section on the home release of the movie where ideally there might be.
Hans Zimmer is one of the biggest film composers working in the industry today.  He won an Academy Award for his work on The Lion King, and has been nominated for six other films including Gladiator, The Thin Red Line, and As Good As It Gets. With The Last Samurai he celebrates his 100th film score, and SoundtrackNet had an opportunity to talk with Hans a few weeks ago during a rare break in his busy schedule working on Something's Gotta Give.<br><br>You've scored many projects during your career, and The Last Samurai is being touted as your 100th film score…<br><br>Well, I'm terrible with math, so I'm not doing the counting. It could be more, it could be less – but apparently it's the 100th.<br><br>So how did you get involved with the project?<br><br>If you're lucky enough to get nominated for an Oscar, you get invited to the Oscar nominee's luncheon where they hand out these little nomination certificates. There are usually 150 people standing there, and people are invited up in alphabetical order, starting with the As. By the time they get to the Cs, everybody's already back at their table chatting and eating, and while the first people called get thunderous applause, you can imagine what it's like when your name starts with Z!<br><br>So Ed Zwick and I were standing there, waiting at one of these luncheons about four years ago, and we started talking to each other. I asked him what he was working on and he told me about this movie called The Last Samurai, which I thought sounded interesting and I asked him to send me a script. After the script arrived, I didn't hear from him for a long time and I thought he'd forgotten about me, not thinking about how difficult it is to set up a samurai movie these days. The other thing I liked about the project was that Tom Cruise was involved, so it was like returning home, since I've scored a bunch of his movies – I knew we were going to have a good time.<br><br>Did it end up that way?<br><br>Ed and his editor Steve Rosenblum are such gentlemen, so together and professional, and they basically did one cut of the film, screened it, and everyone loved their work. So after this, they had plenty of time to come and hang with me, and while I usually love the re-cutting process because it's a diversionary tactic to keep the director and editor out of my life, these guys were great to have around. <br><br>Of course, my sense of paranoia made me think that something was going wrong all the time, waiting for the other shoe to drop, as it were, but it never happened. Ed phoned this morning and I thought, "Oh my god – rewrite!" It's just how my brain works. But I think he and I feel a bit odd now: we've been seeing each other every day for months, and suddenly we're done. I completely understand why people have a problem finishing a movie, because there's something really nice about the process – completion is far more boring.<br><br>For Samurai, you used Japanese percussions and ethnic woodwinds, without getting too 'Japanese'.<br><br>My problem is that I feel Japanese music is really inaccessible to Western ears, and I was really struggling with this film initially, trying to figure out what I was doing. This idea popped into my head for using Western-style themes, but applying a Japanese aesthetic to them, which sounds great of course, until I had to ask myself what I meant! Actually, I think it's just my way of not overloading certain things with too many colors, or being geometrically precise about my cues and not making them too flowery.<br><br>The Tom Cruise character is one of those nasty drunks at the beginning, who obviously has some serious problems he's trying to deal with, or not deal with. He's obnoxious and restless, suffering sleepless nights and is very un-Tom. For me, this character's journey was about his need to earn tranquility and peace, so within the score there's this very romantic, overblown and passionate theme. It's like a juvenile way of dealing with life and death – the pain and liebestod.<br><br>However, to contrast with these very relentless themes, there are a number of stark, formal and sober pieces, because I wanted to take Tom's character on a journey. He comes from America and ends up in this foreign place where he doesn't speak the language or understand the culture. But at the end of the movie, I want the audience to think that there isn't a more beautiful place for him to be, that he is at home in Japan and finally at peace.<br><br>There are many useless acts of bravery we do out of misguided romanticism, and this movie is full of courageous and dignified acts of bravery. So I wanted to play off these acts, since both the American and Japanese cultures have a concept of heroism, and I just wanted to see if I could play with the nature of the two different concepts.<br><br>So you didn't want to do the stereotypical Japanese thing...<br><br>Absolutely not! Take Akira Kurosawa's Ran, for example, which has this brilliant score where Takemitsu writes Western music, but with an Eastern accent. Somebody asked me a few days ago why As Good As It Gets was European – why did I write a European score for a quintessentially American story? For me, it's because Jack Nicholson was crazy in the movie, and I felt one of the great things about America is how they always think we Europeans are crazy. So by writing a European-styled score, it's my way of saying that Jack is crazy, but it's alright!<br><br>How do you feel about people who criticize your work for not fitting into the time period, like Gladiator?<br><br>The reason I take these jobs is because I'm interested in foreign cultures, and every time I get to work on a movie I'm thrown into the adventure of whatever that culture is, the time, and wherever the story's taking place. So one of the things I'm very careful about is not to be historically correct to the culture, but, on the other hand, not to insult the underlying aesthetics of that culture either. I remember watching Chariots of Fire and thinking how brilliantly the music worked, never missing that it wasn't period instruments! I grew up listening to Bach played by a symphony orchestra – it's the wrong sized orchestra with the wrong instruments, but I don't think that's the point.<br><br>With Gladiator, Pietro Scalia brought in a CD saying "this is Ancient Roman music," and I said, "Says who? You went to the Ancient Roman music store and bought an Ancient Roman music CD? Bullshit!" We're not anthropologists. Look at he costumes Ridley Scott had: they were more Napoleonic than Roman, which was perhaps fitting since Napoleon had stolen all of his good ideas from the Romans regarding how to make his generals look cool – and so did Hitler! So I got criticized for making the "Entry into Rome" cue too Leni Riefenstahl – but that was the joke! I am allowed to have a sense of humor in my music!<br><br>Earlier this summer your credit on Pirates of the Caribbean was "Score Overproduced by". What was the deal with that?<br><br>Well, I thought honesty was a virtue! But seriously, Jerry Bruckheimer quite rightly asked me not to give him "that old-fashioned Pirate music," and Gore Verbinski, who I adore and did The Ring with, said, "Well, it is a pirate movie, so we have to disguise it." In the end, I spent a day and a half writing tunes, Klaus Badelt wrote a lot of stuff, and we rolled up our sleeves, got drunk, behaved in a debauched way, and produced a score!<br><br>There was a lot of criticism regarding that score, but in the end it had to serve the film - which it did. You seem to get a lot of criticism on any project you do.<br><br>I had the misfortune of going onto the Film Score Monthly web site recently to look something up and vanity made me type in my own name. I suddenly realized that you can't ever get it right. Who do people want me to be? The guy that writes Matchstick Men? Or the guy that writes The Rock? Or the guy that writes Driving Miss Daisy? My need is ultimately to write for myself. I mock myself and I'm ironic about the way I speak about it because if I take it too seriously, it would be a pompous and boring thing to do. But at the same time I take each note I write very seriously – none of them are random.<br><br>The Internet Movie Database always lists you as being attached to multiple projects, so I was curious, what's Sharktail?<br><br>I complained to Jeffrey Katzenberg that I couldn't cross any more Red Seas, or deal with any more horses that can't speak – I wanted to do one of the fun animated movies instead. There's also a hip-hop element in Sharktail, and I haven't been there yet, so it's new territory! King Arthur is still in production, and I literally just got the first bits of footage just before you came here.<br><br>Are you working on all of these projects simultaneously?<br><br>I'm thinking about them! I'm also working with Jim Brooks on his new comedy, Spanglish.<br><br>And speaking of comedies, you recently did Matchstick Men for Ridley, which had a very Nino Rota vibe to it....<br><br>And I gave him credit! I thought, what if Nino had written the theme and I was just doing the variations? But I bet I'm going to get criticized for that because it's not like Gladiator.<br><br>So when did you last have a vacation?<br><br>Well, I went to Japan for a couple of days at the end of November for the Japanese premiere of Samurai, but look, I love what I do! In January I'll travel to Morocco because Ridley will be shooting his next movie, Kingdom of Heaven, so that's like a holiday!<br><br>My family and I are going away at Christmas, and what we used to do would be to rent a house in the mountains and go on these skiing holidays. It would be a crappy house, not as nice as the one we live in, my wife was still going to the market, and we're still washing our plates – so it wasn't a vacation, it was a lot of work! It's taken us a long time, but we just figured it out: we're not practical with vacations – we're staying at hotels! But while the Zimmer family isn't talented when it comes to vacations, we're talented when it comes to work!<br><br>I sat through Samurai the other day, and for the first time watched the whole movie from top to tail with everything finished and completed. It felt really good, better than a vacation. But luckily there were enough things wrong for me to think that I learned something from the experience, and now I can't wait for the next project to try these new ideas out.<br><br>The soundtrack to The Last Samurai is available from Elektra Records, and the film is currently in theaters. Matchstick Men is available on Varese Sarabande Records.<br><br>With thanks to Chet Mehta at Chasen & Co, Jason Cienkus at Warner Brothers, and Nina Lynch and Mark Wherry at Media Ventures for helping with this interview. And, of course, special thanks to Hans.Mulan get his release... through Disney+, 4th September.Mulan is being released on sept 4th. Can't wait to hear Harry's score!!!!Here's an interview about Last Samurai from Soundtrack.net https: //www.soundtrack. net/content/article/?id=112You can find an interview with Hans on his process for TLS on soundtrack.net somewhere, back in 2003 or 2004
The tracklist they posted has 58 tracks and yours contains only 54<br>interesting thing, He never really spoke about Last Samurai. but you have to realize, even when He speaks, its not always the truth. <br><br>The only thing I know, in 2013 doing press for Rush, He really said the hardest job was Last Samurai, well its not true according to himself, if you watch the behind the scenes stuff from Matchstick Men from 2003, right there He says that he was working on 3 huge films, (tears of the sun / Pirates / last samurai) and Mathstick men was the absolute hardest for him.<br><br>also Ed Zwick talks about working with Hans on the dvd commentary sometimes, but nothing really fancy.<br><br>Im sure there is an interview for this film with him, since he was at the premierI am struggling to find an interview where Hans speaks about this soundtrack. Does it even exist? <br>I spent the last hours digging but nothing. I always desired to hear some comments about it, like he does for the other works he's done.<br>I know it's a far stretch for Hans To release docu scores, but am really curious as to what Brave Miss World, Believer and Jalous of the Birds sound like...<br><br><br>@Mephariel<br>You can find Great Bear Rainforest on bleedingfingersmusic.com under Anze RozmanMondo only offered to send me a return label and a refund. No info yet on if they plan to fix it. :-/
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Hans ZimmerLorne BalfeAndrew KawczynskiTom Holkenborg (Junkie XL)
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The Dark Knight Rises (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 237'18
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  1. Logo (1:21)
  2. Prologue (5:13)
  3. Harvey Dent Day - The Truth About Harvey Dent (2:51)
  4. Room Service (0:16)
  5. Uncrackable Safe (2:09)
  6. He Was The Batman (1:01)
  7. Nothing Out There For Me (3:08)
  8. Is He Coming Back? - Bar Shootout (5:36)
  9. Gordon Underground (2:22)
  10. Blake Visits Wayne Manor (3:06)
  11. Hospital Visit - Bruce Follows Selina (2:23)
  12. For Old Times' Sake - Applied Sciences (3:22)
  13. Risen From Darkness (1:45)
  14. Stock Exchange (5:04)
  15. Batman Chased (4:28)
  16. Selina Finds Daggett (2:18)
  17. Rooftop Fight - Back To Batcave (4:07)
  18. Handing Over The Reactor (3:36)
  19. Do You Feel In Charge? (1:23)
  20. Batman Could Be Anybody - Selina Apartment (1:48)
  21. Miranda Visits Wayne - Take Me To Bane (4:16)
  22. The Shadows Betray You (1:59)
  23. Airport Detainee (1:32)
  24. No True Despair Without Hope (2:38)
  25. Board Members Taken Hostage (1:19)
  26. A Child Born In This Hell (1:32)
  27. Cops Into Sewers - Core Separated (4:35)
  28. Instrument Of Your Liberation (7:08)
  29. Gotham Is Yours (4:46)
  30. Born In Darkness (2:08)
  31. This Is Bane's Prison (1:08)
  32. Many Forms Of Immortality (1:34)
  33. There's A Storm Going On (1:57)
  34. Not Meant To Die Here (1:39)
  35. No Ordinary Child (0:58)
  36. Special Forces Arrive (3:12)
  37. Somone Sold Us Out (2:33)
  38. Without A Rope (2:10)
  39. Death Or Exile? - Gordon To Foley (3:50)
  40. Get Me To Fox - Gordon Arrested (2:04)
  41. Death By Exile - Bagged Bruce Wayne (2:02)
  42. Remember Where You Parked It? (1:03)
  43. On Thin Ice - Batman Returns (3:44)
  44. Come With Me (2:02)
  45. All Out War (5:09)
  46. Not An Ordinary Citizen - The Slow Knife (4;47)
  47. Imagine The Fire (1:45)
  48. Chasing The Convoy East (3:31)
  49. A Hero Can Be Anyone (2:35)
  50. Sacrifice (1:31)
  51. It Was The Batman (5:12)
  52. No Stone Unturned (1:25)
  53. Fernet-Branca (0:31)
  54. End Credits (3:16)
  55. The End (6:12)
  56. Trailer Music (2:45)
  57. Moody Bruce New Hero Suite (22:00)
  58. Bane Suite (23:10)
  59. Cat Suite (15:39)
  60. Moody Bruce New Transfiguration Suite (8:38)
  61. A Dark Knight Suite (4:51)
  62. Bane Action 103 BPM Mezzo Suite (5:20)
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Anon reply Replies: 0 || 2019-10-08 18:29:58
Hello! Do we have a new credits for that score? I suppose that scenes where Bruce Wayne is in the prison must be many Ramin Djawadi & Mel Wesson credits

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-27 23:46:01
There's this little chime effect Hans used in the Wayne Manor suite at 19:00 as the traditional Batman ostinato starts to build... Idk why, but that little chime ringing adds a lot to the track for me.

I wish they had used the last 3 minutes of Wayne Manor at the end of TDKR, instead of rehashing the end music from TDK. You can tell Hans was trying to encapsulate TDKR's story in the Wayne Manor suite, but a lot of those ideas got replaced with tracked music in the film.

Anton reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-25 04:42:02
Happy Birthday Mr Lorne Balfe

Qu Zech reply Replies: 5 || 2019-02-21 23:26:51
I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridge


Mike2019-02-21 23:42:21
Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.


Dunkirk2019-02-23 09:42:03
Its Imagine the Fire insert


SD2019-02-25 02:14:35
is that the official name? I can't find it.


Anonymous2019-02-25 02:33:07
No hes saying its an insert of Imagine the Fire


Mike2019-02-25 03:06:35
Imagine the Fire isn't the only cue to have an insert... The film version of A Hero Can Be Anyone has an insert of Mugging Part 1 from Batman Begins (when Batman mentions Gordon and the coat).

Qu Zech reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-21 23:31:01
I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?

Qu Zech reply Replies: 2 || 2019-02-21 11:05:39
Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme?


Bill Koufo2019-02-21 11:58:59
These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.

As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.


Mike2019-02-21 22:56:47
I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2018-11-20 06:20:14
Anyone know what the story behind the Nokia trailer music is? Did Hans (or at least someone on Hans' team) write it? It starts out with the Bane theme, like "Gotham's Reckoning," then almost sounds like the Bane theme got mixed with Time from Inception.

Hans said he and co. did Trailer 3, but he's never commented on the Nokia one.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-14 21:05:08
The reprise of "Batman on Fire" from Begins (1:59-2:30 in the Transfiguration suite) is good stuff! I wonder why Hans decided to reuse that particular idea.

Luke Abraham reply Replies: 0 || 2018-07-04 10:08:56
Does anyone know where I could find the Moody Bruce New Hero Suite online??? It's truly amazing and I can't seem to find a version in the right key anywhere.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2018-06-17 00:00:30
Is it just me or does the “Catwoman” riff (not the main theme) in “Bar Shootout” and “Nothing Out There” sound very much like the main Scarface theme?

I’ve also noticed that Hans sometimes will write a main tune and a series of riffs for a character, but will mainly incorporate the smaller motifs in the film (Angelica’s music from OST, Megamind’s main tune, Catwoman, etc.) Definitely not a problem though, I like the variety.

Look at the evolution of Batman’s theme from Begins, where he had the 2-note motif and the actual theme, to here where it’s just the 2 notes and the chord theme. I wonder if that was Chris Nolan’s decision.

anonymous guy reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-26 02:16:33
out of curiosity did Hans do any cues solo here?

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 2 || 2018-02-12 03:27:46
So I don't know why I wasted time doing this, but I was surprised to realize that the main two-note Batman theme is used a lot more in this score than it is in The Dark Knight. It feels like it's used less often because it isn't used very much along with the string ostinato, which is what helped it become noticeable BB and TDK, but it actually pops up very frequently.

The two note theme is used in 22 Batman Begins cues, 13 Dark Knight cues, and 22 Dark Knight Rises cues. And yeah...it's kinda sad I know that now.


superultramegaa2018-02-12 03:44:34
First, wow that's awesome that they're used the exact same amount of times in BB and TDKR, but second of all, yeah I never picked that up either until I saw a behind the scenes video of Hans showing Nolan "Blake Visits Wayne Manor," where he said how the theme is more delicate and higher pitched because he's wounded, and the theme needs to rebuild itself just like Wayne does.

It's not until Bruce escapes the prison do we get a big, epic statement of the two-note theme, and not until he returns do we get the grandest statement of it. Looking through this score again, it's probably the best in terms of the way it tells the story with the music, but I still think Batman Begins is a more emotional, and depthful score, especially with James Newton Howard's influence.


Mike (OTM)2018-02-12 04:01:29
"Looking through this score again, it's probably the best in terms of the way it tells the story with the music, but I still think Batman Begins is a more emotional, and depthful score, especially with James Newton Howard's influence."

Yeah, I agree. This score has a lot of new ideas that help tie things off and the progression from beginning to end is clear. You can tell that just by listening through the score. My favorite of these scores has always been Batman Begins (I love the dark and ambient nature of the whole thing), but my favorite when taken together with the film is The Dark Knight. Something about TDK just managed to be very "polished," and the score is no exception.

I definitely missed James Newton Howard in TDKR. His decreased presence was already noticeable in TDK. I wish he had come back for this one, but hey. We can't fix that now. Hans and co. closed things off competently in TDKR, but for me, the main stuff I listen to in TDKR is the suites. The two Moody Bruce suites and the Bane suite are really fantastic, but I don't think the in-film score is as impressive as Hans' initial suite ideas.

Suites reply Replies: 3 || 2017-12-23 15:54:14
Zimmer fans ,
can someone list the suites composed by Hans that pretty much sum up the entire score( official & bootleg)??
I got some :
1) Moody Bruce New Hero Suite
2) A Dark Knight
3) Man of steel ( Han’s sketch book)
4) The Last Samurai
Anything else?


Max Potcats2017-12-23 17:38:12
More or less a sum of the score :

-160 BPM
-Nuke Disarmed (End Credits)
-Marry Me
-Blade Runner
-Dies Mercurii i Martius
-Time
-Jack Sparrow
...


Suites2017-12-23 18:37:29
@ Max Podcasts : the suites I have listed is almost 20 min or more worth of cues. I am curious in similar ones for other movies.


James (now Callahan)2017-12-24 11:40:01
Carmelengo (Angels and Demons)
A Dark Knight, Harvey Dent (by JNH) Like a Dog Chasing Cars and Why so Serious?(TDK)
Man of Steel Sketchbook (Mos)
Moriarty (SH:Game of Shadows)
Rango Suite (Rango)
Absurdity (The Lone Ranger)
Singapore (At World's End)
Lord Beckett or This is Just a good business / with Balfe (At World's End)
Men are still good with JXL and AK(BvS)

And more...

Peter reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-03 15:33:22
Who exactly composed the songs, I ask about these partners Hans?

David reply Replies: 3 || 2017-11-02 16:41:35
Hybrid Soldier do you know which tracks use James Newton Howard's music from the previous two? I would love to know! Can't tell since there isn't any composer info :(


badbu2017-11-02 16:46:40
HZ -> Action Part
JNH -> The emotional Part

;-)


Mike (OTM)2017-11-02 18:50:22
Well with the exception of maybe "Nothing Out There For Me," there's not much James Newton Howard here. None of the themes that he obviously worked on are in here.


superultramegaa2017-11-02 21:45:50
Howard did a lot less of the emotional tracks than you might think. I'm fairly certain Mugging is all Zimmer, and Howard isn't credited for Courthouse, so that was probably Zimmer too. However, Howard definitely did Father to the Rescue, Dirty Cash/Prototypes, Campfire, Bruce Comes Home and all reprises of that. At least, these are my best guesses. So to answer your question, I think the background for the beginning of Nothing Out There was Howard's work.

Iamtommie reply Replies: 3 || 2017-04-20 21:48:46
It's maybe a weird question, byt what says the chant in the Bane suite/theme???


Mike2017-04-21 18:52:51
I think Hans said he just got several guys in his studio once and they recorded a bunch of different versions of it.


Bill Koufo2017-04-22 13:19:17
The chant says "Deshey Deshey Basharah Basharah", which means "Rise up!".


Saizou2017-04-27 13:43:58
It's some kind of arabic, I can verify that theory myself. It's Deshi Basar'a, Go Quickly! or Rise Quickly!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-01 02:54:41
all suites here are HZ right?

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-28 02:40:58
In My Opinion, Moody Bruce is the Best song in the Soundtrack!


Mike2016-12-28 18:37:59
Yep, it seems to be the primary talked-about thing here. I hope La La Land gives this score a better release one day. It's not the best of the trilogy, but it has the best suites, and the whole score has a much better and more sensible musical narrative than what we got on the CD.

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2016-06-19 20:00:40
Have any more credits shown up for this besides the ones Hybrid posted a few years ago?


Hybrid Soldier2016-06-19 20:04:32
No the cuesheet for that film is empty (I mean, HZ only).


You won't get more than what I posted... :P


Anonymous2016-06-19 20:09:39
Oh okay.. :P It looks like a couple of them changed though... like, below, you said "Without a Rope" was HZ and Balfe, but now it's on Mazzaro's page? Any other changes?


anon22016-09-17 22:43:50
Hybrid, how do you figure out credits with empty cue sheets? Do you ask the individual people what they did or is the info somehow made available elsewhere? or is it a big secret that you can't tell anybody?


Mike2016-12-14 17:08:02
Well, we can add Andrew Kawcynski to the Hospital Visit and Death or Exile cues now, thanks to this soundcloud. :P

homayoun reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-12 16:56:33
in my opinion Mr Hans Zimmer is one of the best musicians & composers in the world an is the second Beethoven

anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2016-06-28 22:07:50
anyone notice how this score seemed to undergo a lot more post-cue editing compared to the other two films?

--"batman chased" is almost completely replaced with (better) temp cues and its midsection is changed a lot
--"rooftop fight" is significantly edited in the film (the version here isn't even complete!)
--"imagine the fire" and "chasing the convoy east" sound totally different in the film, with a heavily edited insert between them...
--"fernet branca" is replaced with the (better) TDK version

on the whole the TDKR complete score just doesn't sound as "together" as BB and TDK to me


anonymous2016-06-28 22:10:31
oh, and there's also the "mugging part 2" insert replacing "a hero can be anyone", along with an insert from "the ferries" (TDK) between "batman returns - on thin ice" and "come with me"


Mike2016-06-28 22:18:29
I've noticed this as well. I imagine it comes down to editing Chris Nolan had to do to the film itself. Especially with the various inserts that don't show up on the cue sheet, I would guess that Hans and co. had written the "complete" score and the inserts were used to easily accommodate later edits made to the film itself by Nolan.

I would guess also that, comparing the other two movies to this one, Hans, James, and co. did the cues but then didn't have to put up with too many edits to the picture. Thus, the complete scores for those more closely resemble what the movies have. There was some editing in Begins, though. Batmobile Chase is significantly different in the movie, while Backup and Batman Arrives were both made to be more "beefy" in the film.

(And just since we're on the topic... I would still would love an official release of the Batman Chased film edit - that's higher on my list than No Time for Caution, lol).

0-^-0 reply Replies: 4 || 2016-06-06 19:45:31
Forgive a slight dose of fanboy-ism, but I had "Moody Bruce New Hero" Suite on earlier and boy has this got some of the best notes written for Batman. IMHO at least. That this particular suite missed its well-deserved place in just about every commercial album made for this "Rises" is beyond me. One part that almost universally blows me away in this cue is the bit starting around 8:47 - 9:05. Dramatic and heroic. Every time these two keywords come into the spotlight and become the center of attention, Hans' style of composition truly shines.


Mike2016-06-06 21:21:52
Oh, that suite is fantastic. It makes me mad they didn't release all of it (outside the underwhelming app). It's truly a highlight of all the music written for these movies. And come on. The TDK album got "A Dark Knight," so why couldn't TDKR have gotten this? TDKR as an album is one of my least favorite HZ albums. Doesn't do justice to the score at all.


Anonymous2016-06-06 21:25:36
yeah zimmer releases truly got better after man of steel... now, 2-disc releases are de rigueur for blockbluster movies like this.... such a thing would have been unthinkable from the man back when tdkr came out though... if only water tower or some label would make an improved release of this one (and begins!!!).


isildur2016-06-07 09:35:26
I think you'll find many fans of "Moody Bruce" suite here. It is the best arranged track out of the entire Rises score after all.


Edmund Meinerts2016-06-07 16:45:09
Yeah I agree. In fact that track pretty much contains all the music I ever need to listen to from Rises - it even has the best use of the Bane chant in it.

thejok3rrules reply Replies: 17 || 2012-12-07 01:22:05
Hybrid Soldier, would you have the complete credits for this one? Even partial credits like you did on POTC 3 would be awesome! :D


Mike2012-12-07 01:47:55
Agreed.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-07 13:17:32
Here's what I know =>

Logo => Mel Wesson
Room Service => Jasha Klebe
Uncrackable Sage => HZ/LB/Klebe
He Was The Batman => HZ/LB
Nothing Out There For Me => HZ/LB
Is He Coming Back? - Bar Shootout => HZ/LB/Steve Mazzaro
Blake Visits Wayne Manor => HZ/Klebe
Hospital Visit - Bruce Follows Selina => HZ/LB
For Old Time's Sake - Applied Sciences => HZ/LB
Risen From Darkness => HZ/LB
Batman Chased => HZ/LB
Selina Finds Dagget => HZ/LB
Rooftop Fight - Back To Batcave => HZ/LB
Handing Over The Reactor => HZ/LB
Batman Could Be Anybody - Selina Apartment => HZ/LB
Miranda Visits Wayne - Take Me To Bane => HZ/LB
Airport Detainee => HZ/Mazzaro
Instrument Of Your Liberation => HZ/Andrew Kawczynski
Special Forces Arrive => HZ/Kawczynski
Without A Rope => HZ/LB
Death Or Exile? - Gordon To Foley => HZ/LB
Get Me To Fox - Gordon Arrested => HZ/LB
Death By Exile - Bagged Bruce Wayne => HZ/LB
Remember Where You Parked It? => HZ/LB
Come With Me => HZ/LB
Sacrifice => HZ/LB
Fernet-Branca => HZ/LB


Edmund Meinerts2012-12-07 17:16:00
Fan-freaking-tastic, Hybrid! As someone who likes to know exactly who did what, you have no idea how nice it is to have someone like you who's "on the inside" about these kinds of things. Much appreciated!


Mike2012-12-07 18:04:58
Wow! Why isn't this score credited to "Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe"?


thejok3rrules2012-12-07 18:58:21
Thank you, Hybrid Soldier! :D I don't want to ask too much, but could you do the same with Batman Begins' expanded score and The Dark Knight's complete too?


Mike2012-12-07 19:25:25
Haha that WOULD be pretty awesome, but no pressure.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-07 19:38:57
As I already stated it's quite impossible for Begins. Apart from obvious things sounding HZ and other sounding JNH, it's really a co-score, with HZ using JNH & JNH using HZ. I have no clue about Ramin's work, just that he helped a lot. Lorne arranged a few things, the known one is "Backup", and Mel for the more "ambient" cues... :)

TDKR was more a "split" work so it's easier (even though composers did rework cues from Begins, so it remains fuzzy). But I'll tell what I know from TDK.


Mike2012-12-07 19:59:19
I actually have a question about Backup, since the beginning is used for the end credits to these movies. I'm ignorant of music processes, so when you say LB "arranged" the cue, do you mean he "composed" it or just sort of put it together like that? And if he composed it, I assume that means that whenever the credits start rolling we're hearing Lorne Balfe?


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-07 20:24:56
Lorne was a music programmer on Begins, while Ramin "wrote" additional music.

So basically Lorne was working on pre-existing cues, and added various layers (percs, strings etc.). So you're hearing... well, Hans & Lorne ! ;)


Anonymous2013-06-18 01:10:54
Hybrid do you know if HZ did ANY of the TDKR cues himself?


Mike2013-08-17 04:52:16
If I had to guess I would say Hans did the "Prologue" and "Slow Knife" cues alone. Not entirely sure why, but they just strike me as Zimmer cues. Also, the first part of Batman Chased, the film version, is temp music from the previous two movies--temp music which, I imagine, Zimmer applied to the scene before having Lorne arrange the actual cue. So you could probably say Zimmer did that himself also...


Anonymous2013-08-17 04:55:18
"Gotham is Yours" sounds like a HZ cue to me


MacArthur 2013-08-18 04:22:53
Its probably not credited to Balfe because he might have just arranged it


MacArthur2013-08-18 04:27:04
It just seems to me that all of this was Composed by Zimmer but put together and Arranged by Balfe. So to answer your question Zimmer did do it it was just Balfe who put it together.


Anonymous2014-02-03 22:29:21
any idea about cues you didn't list hybrid or no?


Mike2014-02-03 22:33:42
Wouldn't he have put them if he knew...? :P I imagine the Prologue and Slow Knife cues are Zimmer alone, and since It Was the Batman and No Stone Unturned are just suites temped in, I imagine those are Zimmer alone also. I also wouldn't be surprised if Born in Darkness were Zimmer alone. Seeing as Lorne did the End Credits cue in TDK, I'd be willing to assume he did it here, too.


Anonymous2016-03-11 17:19:08
Hybrid i'm not REALLY expecting to get an answer to this but :P ... where do you get your credits from? do you have access to hans' cuesheets or what exactly?

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2016-03-10 23:16:47
Am I the only one that gets ticked off every time I have to listen to the Origins Suites in the crappy radio quality that we got them in from the Z app? I just hate that these masterpieces were released in terrible quality! Does anyone know if they're out there in better quality? Maybe I missed, but have these ever been released in better quality?

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Mike2016-03-11 16:35:18
No, you're not. It boggles my mind the way this score was released, honestly. 2011-2012 was a bad time for HZ albums, and this brings back memories of that. The suites - especially Wayne Manor, Bane, and the completely-unreleased transfiguration suite - are the real highlights of this score, yet they were released in an app? Where's the logic?

Then the CD is 50 minutes of cues of lesser importance in the overall score, with the exception of a few like "Gotham's Reckoning" (prologue) and "Rise." Then there was the whole issue of "bonus tracks": get "No Stone Unturned" and "Risen From Darkness" with the physical CD, but... oh, the latter track wasn't remotely like the much better film mix. Then you could get another track buying tickets early! *Sigh*

Say what you want about HZ albums these days missing important cues ("Escape From Ship," "Rest of My Life" film version, "No Time For Caution" film version), but things are a heck of a lot better now than they were when TDKR came out. Now, 2-disc releases seem to be a standard for blockbuster scores, and Batman v. Superman is continuing that trend.


Anonymous2016-03-11 16:54:26
i'd love to see a 2-disc release setup like this:

CD 1 (approx: 68 min):

1. Logo / Prologue (full)
2. Harvey Dent Day / Uncrackable Safe
3. Nothing Out There For Me
4. Bar Shootout
5. Blake Visits Wayne Manor / Hospital Visit
6. For Old Times' Sake
7. Stock Exchange
8. Batman Chased (film version)
9. Rooftop Fight
10. Take Me To Bane
11. A Child Born in This Hell
12. Instrument of Your Liberation
13. Gotham Is Yours
14. Born in Darkness / Many Forms of Immortality
15. Not Meant to Die Here / Someone Sold Us Out
16. Without a Rope

CD 2 (approx: 30 min of cues, 40 min of suites):

1. Death or Exile? / Gordon Arrested
2. Remember Where You Parked It? / Batman Returns
3. All Out War
4. The Slow Knife (full version)
5. Imagine the Fire (film version) / Chasing the Convoy
6. Rise (film version)
7. Wayne Manor / Moody Bruce Hero Suite
8. Bane Suite (maybe shortened)
9. Selina Kyle Suite
10. Moody Bruce Transfiguration Suite

And this would certainly be possible... MoS had about an hour on its first disc, with another hour on its second, 50-some minutes of disc 2 being suites! Come on, Watertower! :P


Anonymous2016-03-11 16:55:22
50* min of suites on disc 2


Mike2016-03-11 17:04:13
It's certainly possible. TDK in this very series got a 2-disc release, and I never have felt like I have been missing "essential cues" when listening to that version. But I would add a shortened version of the "End Credits" to the above list as well. The credits music that finishes these movies is essential to appreciating the three scores properly IMO. Sadly only TDK has the credits on its official release.

Sam reply Replies: 0 || 2016-03-01 15:24:44
Magnificent!!! PLEASE, let us buy and download these tracks...

Alex reply Replies: 0 || 2016-02-01 21:52:16
Amazing! I´ve been looking all over for this version of TDKR. But how can I download it?! Thank you so much!

Evan reply Replies: 0 || 2015-10-29 15:53:26
I'm so thankful I was able to get my hands on this version of the soundtrack. Thel retail OST left out so much good material even with the bonus tracks. I'm only gripe is all the filler tracks on the last disk. I would recommend buying the retail version as well though. Some of the tracks on the original soundtrack are much better, such as "No Stone Unturned", its far superior version of "A Hero Can Be Anyone" since it leaves out all the temp music from TDK and features a cool version of Batman's theme that first popped up in the track "Training" in Begins. Does anyone know why Hans sort of phased out Batman's main theme from "Molossus"?


bob K jones reply Replies: 1 || 2015-10-19 22:08:40
batman chased is the best but i cant find it one itunes


Anonymous2015-10-19 23:32:40
"risen from darkness" but it's not the film version

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2015-10-05 16:22:16
Hey Hybrid,
Do you know if the film version of "Imagine The Fire" was an edit of existing tracks or a complete re-recording?

It's a cool mix between some Dark Knight cues and the album version of Imagine the Fire.

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