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Sehr geehrte Hans Zimmer, und Ihre komplette Gruppe, Ihr seid bestimmt nicht von dieses Weld. Ich kann einfach anders meine Begeisterung nicht besser beschreiben. Ein tausend mal danke für ein bombastische CD, bitte nur noch es auf Hi-Res Audio Format zu Verfügung auf irgendwelche Musik Platform beibringen. Im voraus danke! LG, Jakob.Seems like this is going to be a Dark Phoenix situation where we don't have a tracklist, release date or cover until the week the movie releases. <br><br>I wonder if it's because Miller is still locking down the final cut and Tom's still scoring. Either way, definitely looking forward to this and the movie.Jackman's name has been taken off the IMDb page for Black Widow, so might just be one of those typical IMDb errors (I remember they had him up as the composer for Mission: Impossible - Fallout too).Thats not as annoying a difference as the choral elements for Electro's Death being so muted in the sessions.Everan, this doesn't make any sense, actually, "I'm Electro" is the film version of "Itsy Bitsy Spider Theme", if you watch the scene in the movie again, you will notice that the film version has the little fragment at the 0:13 seconds mark of "I'm Electro", while the unreleased "Itsy Bitsy Spider" listed here doesn't have it, better saying, "I'm Electro" is actually the true film version of "Itsy Bitsy Spider", while the version we know is just a Alternate.
You can find it easily on Youtube today, by the way, I can't find the alternate of Electro Showdown Part 1.mpolonest123, actually "unused source" is listed here, it's just with a different name "Farewell", I guess it was meant to be used between "Sins of The Fathers" and "Max Electrocuted", also, you've mentioned a film version of Norman's death song (Which is "Sins of The Fathers"), and If I'm not wrong, that track has just one version...Anonymous, I think he's referring to the film version of "Spidey Logo", the one in the official album releaseDT-2017, The film version of "Harry's Transformation" mixes "Sum Total" with the part between 2:04 and 2:58 from "Special Projects", but with less instruments and a additional electric guitar. I actually like both versions, if you hear the film version, it actually sounds like it was just edited in last hour to fit in the scene, while the version in the album, I'm almost sure it was meant to be used in the full scene, you know, the uncut scene, with the parts as Harry's teeth growing, his column being fused (or whatever is that thing), he looking at the screen, and more...but then they deleted the fragments, and for Zimmer the last hour plan was just throw the intense part of "Special Projects" into the song, and for me, that worked well, I would like to hear the Intense parts of the two alternates of "Harry's Transformation" isolated.There’s a 3-minute clip of the truck chase on YouTube and I have to say the score sounds pretty cool. A lot of string/percussion work with an awesome electronic motif for the new “Terminator” model. Also, Brad Fiedel’s theme is back. ;)
Hmmm, where do you have found the alternate of Electro Showdown Part 1? And what is the track "Farewell"? It is meant to be related to the Norman osborn scene? More likely "Sins of the Fathers" track?, I think not, because the track in that scene is 3 minutes long, while this "Farewell" is just 1 minute long<br>Also, you missed some tracks: Film Version of "Electro Showdown Part 2", Film Version of "Itsy Bitsy Spider" (which is actually the original version of the Album mix, yeah that one which was cut and renamed to "I'm Electro), an Alternate of "Truck Chase", and "Sins of the Fathers" which I mentioned before.<br>There's also two more alternates of "Flying Montage", one which is just 40 seconds long, and the film version, which doesn't have anything to do with the original version and the two alternates listed here.<br>And yeah, we can't forget about the second alternate of "I'm Spiderman" which is the film version of the track, and it was actually released in the album mix!Isn't his problem when people like Bruckheimer wanted a specific sound and give no freedom in his movies.<br><br>He works for what is given.I think Lorne already has enough noise behind her, for my liking I should start to give way to quality instead of quantity.ASCAP shows that "Farewell To Lilliput" is credited to Jackman/Willis. Is it correct or there is only Jackman? Just thought may be there is a typo on the site.Any news on the soundtrack for Jack Ryan season 2?
I was hoping for Ramin Djawadi to compose The Eternals, well Joseph Trapanese is a good composer so its good news.John powell is flying lowkey now which sucks, His X3 score is just jaw dropping. The Eternals would be perfect for him cause he'd make it epic but Joseph Trapanese is scoring that Surprised Jablonsky hasn't tackled DC or Marvel yet eitherDamn i miss Klaus, he needs a damn come back. Stupid talentedpush...<br><br>please add them...I’ve talked to Lorne (we follow each other on Instagram), he says he’s very open to doing a superhero movie.<br><br>Plus, Henry Jackman tackling Black Widow isn’t a surprise, but it’s pleasant news indeed. He’s scored for her during Winter Soldier, so I hope we get an expansion of whatever thematic material there was for her in the Captain America films.<br><br>P.S, it’s long overdue for Powell to score another superhero movie. X3: The Last Stand is a solid score and I’d like to hear his ideas for a MARVEL or DC film.
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Hans ZimmerLorne BalfeAndrew KawczynskiTom Holkenborg (Junkie XL)
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional ArrangementsAdditional Arrangements
The Dark Knight Rises (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 237'18
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  1. Logo (1:21)
  2. Prologue (5:13)
  3. Harvey Dent Day - The Truth About Harvey Dent (2:51)
  4. Room Service (0:16)
  5. Uncrackable Safe (2:09)
  6. He Was The Batman (1:01)
  7. Nothing Out There For Me (3:08)
  8. Is He Coming Back? - Bar Shootout (5:36)
  9. Gordon Underground (2:22)
  10. Blake Visits Wayne Manor (3:06)
  11. Hospital Visit - Bruce Follows Selina (2:23)
  12. For Old Times' Sake - Applied Sciences (3:22)
  13. Risen From Darkness (1:45)
  14. Stock Exchange (5:04)
  15. Batman Chased (4:28)
  16. Selina Finds Daggett (2:18)
  17. Rooftop Fight - Back To Batcave (4:07)
  18. Handing Over The Reactor (3:36)
  19. Do You Feel In Charge? (1:23)
  20. Batman Could Be Anybody - Selina Apartment (1:48)
  21. Miranda Visits Wayne - Take Me To Bane (4:16)
  22. The Shadows Betray You (1:59)
  23. Airport Detainee (1:32)
  24. No True Despair Without Hope (2:38)
  25. Board Members Taken Hostage (1:19)
  26. A Child Born In This Hell (1:32)
  27. Cops Into Sewers - Core Separated (4:35)
  28. Instrument Of Your Liberation (7:08)
  29. Gotham Is Yours (4:46)
  30. Born In Darkness (2:08)
  31. This Is Bane's Prison (1:08)
  32. Many Forms Of Immortality (1:34)
  33. There's A Storm Going On (1:57)
  34. Not Meant To Die Here (1:39)
  35. No Ordinary Child (0:58)
  36. Special Forces Arrive (3:12)
  37. Somone Sold Us Out (2:33)
  38. Without A Rope (2:10)
  39. Death Or Exile? - Gordon To Foley (3:50)
  40. Get Me To Fox - Gordon Arrested (2:04)
  41. Death By Exile - Bagged Bruce Wayne (2:02)
  42. Remember Where You Parked It? (1:03)
  43. On Thin Ice - Batman Returns (3:44)
  44. Come With Me (2:02)
  45. All Out War (5:09)
  46. Not An Ordinary Citizen - The Slow Knife (4;47)
  47. Imagine The Fire (1:45)
  48. Chasing The Convoy East (3:31)
  49. A Hero Can Be Anyone (2:35)
  50. Sacrifice (1:31)
  51. It Was The Batman (5:12)
  52. No Stone Unturned (1:25)
  53. Fernet-Branca (0:31)
  54. End Credits (3:16)
  55. The End (6:12)
  56. Trailer Music (2:45)
  57. Moody Bruce New Hero Suite (22:00)
  58. Bane Suite (23:10)
  59. Cat Suite (15:39)
  60. Moody Bruce New Transfiguration Suite (8:38)
  61. A Dark Knight Suite (4:51)
  62. Bane Action 103 BPM Mezzo Suite (5:20)
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Boldizar reply Replies: 4 || 2015-03-05 17:17:52
Is the Cat Suite time above incorrect? I have only seen two variations of the suite (same with different names Cat Suite and Selina Kyle Suite) and they are the same roughly 5:41. It looks like the tens place may be an error.


Mike2015-03-05 17:42:34
This has been discussed before, actually, and no, it's not an error. The suite is long and supposedly very repetitive. And btw, Hybrid, I think some people have asked this before, too, but would you be willing to post the known credits up here? I know you posted them down below, but it's somehow much nicer having them on the cues themselves. :P


Boldizar2015-03-05 19:59:59
Hmm interesting. Or how about a way to search comments Hybird. That would work too :)


Mike2015-03-05 20:48:51
Well the comment with some known credits is on this page. Just scroll down about halfway.


Boldizar2015-03-09 01:16:46
I second that request hybrid. I would be grateful if you could upload the long Cat suite. It is the only track I cannot find.

Vince reply Replies: 7 || 2014-11-07 06:23:12
Hi, I am not here to ask about CD downloading, copying or trading. But I am very interested in somehow purchasing this "Dark Knight Rises (complete score)". Because....(with all due respect, and no offense intended)....this score is WAY BETTER than the regular/commercial one available on iTunes/Spotify and the local records store.

So if someone could please direct me to the right source to order/purchase this complete score, it would be tremendously appreciated.

Thank you so much!


Mike J2015-02-02 19:11:05
Vince, I've asked that same question before about numerous other alleged "complete album" releases that keep getting posted on this site. They are not legitimate releases in many cases. Apparently it's just the webmaster posting all the tracks (released and unreleased) that were from the movie for whatever reason as "unofficial releases".

I'm not sure what particular purpose it serves in constantly posting all the tracks for all these alleged "complete" scores if we cannot ever obtain them. What's the use is showing us stuff we can't get???


Hybrid Soldier2015-02-02 19:16:28
Archival purpose...


Really !


Mike J2015-02-02 20:22:38
Archival purposes for whom Hybrid? We can't even listen to them, let alone purchase them...ever. I appreciate you taking the time to frequently list these complete scores but it seems kind of pointless really.


Nyct2015-02-02 21:34:52
And they do leak sometimes. In fact the tracklists for some of the previous complete scores were posted here and then leaked somewhere, and even vise-versa.


Zimson2015-02-02 23:06:44
Almost all of it is on youtube and various other sources. The quality is pretty much as good as the regular mp3 versions you can on find on spotify, etc. You just need some freeware to download it.


Anonymous2015-02-03 00:36:25
Or you can simply download it where it's been posted. G O O G L E


Nyct2015-02-03 02:40:58
Don't forget the quality. The scorpranos leak (though an mp3) provided at 320kbps, still had volume issues. Half of the tracks needed readjustment for hearing, and that would cause quality loss.
So getting the actual CD that contains the real FLAC deal would be most beneficial.

Nyct reply Replies: 1 || 2015-02-02 02:13:04
Why is there no FLAC version yet?


Anonymous2015-02-02 02:26:05
Uh because nobody's leaked it in FLAC yet.......?

Mike reply Replies: 13 || 2014-01-31 01:15:25
Now that I've finally heard the Transfiguration Suite....first of all, it's awesome....Second, although it is essentially the New Hero Suite in Chasing the Convoy's tempo, who arranged it that way? Hans? Lorne? Someone else?


NM2014-01-31 12:13:31
Guess would be Hans' arrangement and then they temped that in and built the Chasing the Convoy cue from that.


Mike2014-01-31 14:20:30
Well, what I meant was, "Who took that segment of Hans' New Hero Suite and made it all fast and spastic (in other words, who turned it into the Transfiguration suite)?" But seeing as it's on Hans' own page, I guess it's all him. :)


Mike2014-01-31 14:21:15
...And then, yes, as you say, they used it to make Chasing the Convoy East... ;)


badbu2014-01-31 14:48:32
oh my gosh! like it :)


Mike2014-01-31 14:57:44
To bad these suites haven't gotten a proper release. I think TDKR had the best suites of the trilogy (though Begins worked best within the film).


isildur2014-02-03 15:06:02
The Moody Bruce Transfiguration suite I heard here is very much different from the one that I heard in the complete score(which I got from well some where on the internet :P). Wonder why?


Mike2014-02-03 16:19:32
Was the one you got from the complete score "Aurora" under another name? :P


Hybrid Soldier2014-02-03 16:21:50
Just a smartass would fooled everyone... Apparently it worked...


Mike2014-02-03 16:30:39
Thank you all the same for posting the real one, Hybrid.


isildur2014-02-03 17:14:42
Mike, don't know mate. Found the link in google search. The quality of the sound is also not good :(

And yes Thanks very much Hybrid for posting the real one. Superb stuff. But please, when will the player be back?


Hybrid Soldier2014-02-03 21:23:33
Yes don't worry it's just the old player didn't work on smartphones... So we're switching, but it needs some work... :)


isildur2014-09-11 20:36:01
Revisited the Moody Bruce suite. And again got addicted to it. It's on repeat mode since 3 days. Absolutely Awesome.


Mike2014-09-12 00:21:32
It's really good. Shame it hasn't been released.

anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2014-08-16 19:44:42
which trailer is track 56, trailer music, from?


Adam2014-08-17 08:58:08
I think trailer #2

Nyct reply Replies: 0 || 2014-08-16 04:33:11
Any chance of a FLAC version of this coming soon?

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-10 18:56:38
Okay, everybody, I know this is super nerdy of me, but I thought some of you may wanna see/hear it for yourselves....In the Batman Chased cue, when Batman is surrounded by cops and blows up the car to make a ramp, they temp-tracked in the end of the Batmobile Chase cue from Begins. But just now I decided to play part of the Wayne Manor suite over that scene. It was the part beginning at about 7:00 (the more electronic staccato version of "Why Do We Fall?"). Anyway, it really worked! The way it builds slowly as Batman looks around at the swarm of police cars, then there's a determination when he gets on the Batpod. They could have shortened it and then had the part from 8:06-8:08 play when he jumped the ramp and landed.

Yeah, like I said, super nerdy, but pretty neat, and anyway, we're all nerds here, right? ;)

Anonymous reply Replies: 5 || 2014-05-10 00:15:17
anyone else notice that in the scene when john blake is about to get shot and batman jumps down and saves him, john blake's punching of christopher judge's character follows the percussion of the music?


Mike2014-05-10 00:19:11
Yeah, I definitely noticed that. It's almost like they based the punching on the music, but that doesn't seem likely since they would have had to time the entire sequence correctly (so that the music starts when Batman jumps down and so that the punches follow the music). But it isn't likely that they based the music on the punching, either, because the music there was a simple temp track.....


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-10 00:22:51
Maybe it's an homage to the 60s Batman. You know - nanananana POW! nananana WHAM! nanana SMACK!

:p


Mike2014-05-10 00:37:07
lol xD


trent easton navarro2014-05-10 10:49:15
The music accentuating something that happens on screen. How unusual for film music...


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-10 12:14:26
It would be pretty unusual for a Nolan movie... :p

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2014-05-08 23:58:09
hybrid could you put up the known credits for this one?


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-09 00:09:48
You could just, like, scroll down a few threads...


Mike2014-05-09 01:08:58
lol...Well, in Anonymous' defense, I think there was an error in Hybrid's crediting of "Without a Rope" in the comments below (Hybrid said it was Hans and Lorne, but now it appears it was by Hans and Steve Mazzaro). Also, when Hybrid uploaded the credits onto the POTC3 page, there were a couple credits that he hadn't given before.

But yeah, dude, just....scroll down. :P

XX reply Replies: 1 || 2014-05-07 08:16:22
I See A download button, but it doesn't seem to work.


Marc2014-05-07 19:50:44
No, it's not supposed to work. But you can use software like Internet Download Manager, this can rip them off.. :)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-11 22:52:39
Question.....what does the sequence programmer do? Because in the end credits of this movie, only Lorne Balfe is credited with additional music/arrangements, while the four guys listed here and on the album with additional arrangements (Andrew Kawczynski, Jasha Klebe, JunkieXL & Steve Mazzaro) are credited just with "sequencer programming". So what does sequencer programming mean that would make these guys arrangers?

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2014-02-03 04:22:27
Why did Hans make both "The End" and "A Dark Knight Suite"? They're essentially the same, it's just A Dark Knight Suite is slightly shorter and has fewer percs in it.


RealFfingMusic2014-02-11 13:53:24
There you go! They ARE different then.

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2014-01-17 22:45:07
out of curiosity, what "additional music" did Lorne Balfe write in this score? the whole thing is arrangements of pre-existing music.


Mike2014-01-17 22:47:03
Maybe he wrote that New Transfiguration Suite we haven't gotten to hear? :P Either that or he did some obscure cue somewhere that doesn't use any Zimmer material.

Vikram AVN reply Replies: 2 || 2013-12-29 21:39:17
Is there any possibility of getting these tracks for hearing ? I mean can we download these track by paying for them ?
Please reply...


Mike2013-12-29 23:48:43
No. ;) Unfortunately, they're not purchasable.


Russel2013-12-30 01:45:44
The only way to listen to it is to illegally download it. There's no way to properly purchase this.

he man reply Replies: 0 || 2013-12-29 23:51:46
during the bar shootout is that part of selina kyle's theme or not? the main action part. i can't tell if it's that or just kinda similar to it.

Levi reply Replies: 0 || 2013-12-28 17:41:44
Hybrid awhile back you said about the Transfiguration Suite that it was an "... 8 min segment of the New Hero version but in steroid mode, faster tempo (same as in Chasing The Convoy East) & percs added".

What 8 minute segment of the New Hero suite is it? Like, what themes are in it?

Thawyer reply Replies: 1 || 2013-12-11 22:05:33
-.-

The fuck... i try to find this Album so hard, but i dont know how to buy it! Im going crazy!


Mike2013-12-11 22:52:25
It's not for purchase....

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-22 01:56:48
How much do the additional guys need to keep their cues within the realm of arrangements of Zimmer material, and how much are they able to branch out and be really original?

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-09-03 15:34:12
Regarding Man of Steel 2, Zimmer said: I have to have a think about that one, but maybe you'll get a new Batman if I do it ;). Regarding Interstellar, he said he couldn't say a thing because Chris Nolan would kill him, but he was still coming up with stuff himself, so he "doesn't really know yet".

There. Now you don't need to watch the interview for Rush. lol, kidding. It was an interesting one.

MacArthur reply Replies: 8 || 2013-08-19 05:55:48
So your saying that Balfe did it or just Arranged it Or that Zimmer Did it and if he did what tracks did Zimmer Do himself on this score


MacArthur2013-08-19 06:02:43
In essence what did Zimmer do


Mike2013-08-19 14:47:55
Zimmer wrote a 20 minute long suite of themes for Batman (go look up "Wayne Manor Suite"), another 20 minute suite of themes for Bane (go look up "Bane suite"), and a suite of themes for Selina Kyle (go look up "Selina Kyle Suite... :P). All of these were released with the Z+ app. Anyways, these three suites contain most of what became the final film score (with the rest being music re-used from Batman Begins and The Dark Knight). So yes, the MUSIC is all Hans Zimmer. But the task went to Lorne Balfe, as well as some others, to arrange the music within the film/apply it to scenes, after having received instruction from Zimmer on how each scene should sound. The additional guys in TDKR didn't do much, really. They mostly just copied and pasted Hans' music, with minor variation, into the various parts of the film.

If you ask me, the music in this score is 100% Zimmer, with the exception of cues like "Special Forces Arrive" ("Underground Army" on the album) and "Gordon to Foley" (not on the album).


Mike2013-08-19 15:13:33
Funny, I just said this music is 100% Zimmer with the exception of a couple cues. Well, whaddaya know! If you look at the "see details", only Lorne Balfe was credited with "additional music" (meaning only he "wrote" any additional material), while the other guys are credited merely with additional "arrangements" (they exclusively used Hans' music and didn't write any new music themselves). I quite appreciate this score for the simple reason that crediting it to Zimmer alone is fair. Unlike Inception...


Mike2013-08-19 15:16:49
And sorry to keep posting, but in addition to writing suites and giving the overall concept of each cue to the arrangers (as well as supplying music for the arrangers to base their work off of), I'm sure Zimmer also did some of the scene arrangements by himself. I don't know which, but Hybrid was only able to give a partial list of credits that by no means included everything.


Anonymous2013-08-19 15:21:02
Is the amount of influence that Zimmer alone has on a project proportionate to how much he values said project? Like, if the music is all him, is that because he maintained tighter control over it than other scores? Or do the directors decide what they want?


MacArthur2013-08-19 19:41:38
Ok so basically Lorne was a music editor going by older terms.


MacArthur2013-08-19 19:46:38
Mike did you see my track listings for inception


MacArthur2013-08-19 19:47:41
Its in the TDKR section the other one

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-19 19:17:29
"Gordon to Foley" sounds insanely like Lorne Balfe's theme for Robert Fischer in Inception

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-19 15:09:00
Anyone know who wrote the "Gordon theme" in this movie? You hear it three times: when Gordon is unable to deliver his speech at the Harvey Dent Day event, when John Blake asks Gordon if he wanted to know who Batman was, and when Bane spilled the beans on Gordon's lie and John Blake subsequently chastised Gordon. It's a cool theme, but it's not in any of Hans' suites, so Idk if Hans did it or one of his buddies. lol.

Mike reply Replies: 3 || 2013-08-08 17:31:57
An anonymous user said a couple days ago that he wished MoS had utilized its score differently. I wish the score in TDKR had been different, but it would have no bearing on the scenes--just the music used within them. This is a third film, and third films, such as At World's End and Revenge of the Sith, often have huge, monumental scores. So this is where my thought-process comes in. If you listen to the Wayne Manor suite, you'll hear Hans wrote a lot of truly epic, heroic, bombastic music, yet not much of it got used in the film and was instead replaced with either temp tracks from the previous films or regurgitations of old material. So here's how I wish the score had been done:

For example, for Batman's first appearance in the tunnel, they used a temptrack from Hans' LSI Extraction cue from The Dark Knight. This worked well and made for a memorable moment, no doubt, but what if, rather than using temp, they had instead used Hans' new variation on that motif beginning at the 1:10 mark in "Imagine the Fire"? That would have been awesome, if you ask me. We'd hear the same motif, but with enough newness to make it interesting. Or again, for the next part they temped a section of Batmobile Chase from Batman Begins, and this indeed worked well, but why couldn't they instead have kept the same basic cue, but added layers or made it more epic? Finally, in both the Wayne Manor suite and Imagine the Fire, Hans gave us a whole new version of Backup from Begins. So why couldn't they have used this NEW version, rather than temping the Begins version, for when Batman was pursued by the cops?

Also, does anyone else think that 0:00-1:09 in Imagine the Fire would have been cooler for the final chase than a regurgitation of the train fight cue from Begins? Additionally, I think that, instead of reusing the Batcave/A Dark Knight cue for when Bruce climbs out of the pit, it could have been cool to have used at least part of the from 4:46 onward in the Wayne Manr cue.

I'm sure I could think of more, but this was a long post. Sorry. I'm a nerd. i enjoy this stuff. Lol.


Mike2013-08-08 17:35:37
...at least part of the cue from 4:46 onward in the Wayne Manor suite*


Ds2013-08-08 20:07:41
Totally agree with you Mike. I wonder who takes this kind of decision (replacing new cues with temp tracks/old cues), HZ or Nolan or some producers?


Mike2013-08-08 20:29:32
Nolan, I assume. Read the booklet to the 2 disc Dark Knight soundtrack. He spoke about how he was initially just planning to temp TDK with material from Begins, but Hans and James insisted upon writing new material.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-03 22:06:08
Whoever mixed the film version of Batman Chased was really smart. It's much better than the original Lorne cue.

Alan R reply Replies: 2 || 2013-07-21 23:16:35
Is there a CD i can buy of this? if anybody knows you should say something!!!


Macejko2013-07-21 23:17:23
Does "unofficial release" mean anything to you?


motherfucker2013-07-22 09:00:49
no dick splash

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2013-07-21 20:11:43
There's a set of tracks on YouTube called "Gotham City", "Gotham City Part 1", "Gotham City Part 2, "Gotham City Part 3", and "Gotham City Part 4".

Gotham City starts out with the choir boy from Barbastella/Rise, then for a few seconds has the muted percussion from Zimmer's TDKR suite called "The End". It then goes into the typical Batman Begins-style ostinato and two-note theme, and this is mixed with hints of the Scarecrow theme.

Part 2 also starts with the vocals from Barbastella/Rise, then plays the mysterious, Batman Begins version of the two-note theme, then is more variations on the vocal stuff.

Part 3 is the Deshi Basara chant played over a sort of ominous ambience.

Part 4 is the bat-flapping WHOOSH for a while, with the two note theme played behind it, and played over all of this is a bunch of Mel Wesson-style ambient music.

Anyway, does anyone know where these come from? Are they fan-made?


Edmund Meinerts2013-07-21 21:39:34
Those were included in the version of the complete score I downloaded and, fanmade or not, they're really pointless. Just redundant atmospherics really. I'm guessing they're from the Z+ app?

MGDrone reply Replies: 17 || 2013-05-15 21:41:53
Ok, I know, I know. It's been said a billion times that the 116 track version is fake. I don't really want to discuss the SCORE, but the Bane Suite really sounds interesting. Im not an expert on sound quality, but at times it definitely sounds like its more than 98 Kbps (and not just the parts that could have easily been replaced by already released music in higher quality. Same with Moody Bruce Suite. The Cat Suite Im a little more skeptical about. I guess what Im saying is, has anyone authenticated the quality of these suites to make sure they're NOT the app versions. The transfiguration suite I believe is fake. In fact, Im willing to believe they're all fake. It's just the Bane suite that has me wondering.


Anonymous2013-05-15 21:52:16
Fake or not, what does the transfiguration sweet sound like?


Mike2013-05-15 21:54:18
*suite, Anonymous ;)


MGDrone2013-05-15 23:36:36
It's the album cue Imagine The Fire with some portions of Moody Bruce Suite. It's very likely that its fan-made. There is nothing new in it, really.


Mike2013-05-16 02:16:55
Yup, that sounds fake.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-16 09:45:44
It is, the real New Transfig sounds nothing like that.


Mike2013-05-16 09:48:01
Tell us, Hybrid, do you like the New Transfiguration Suite? Is it a good piece?


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-16 09:59:48
Search the various discussions around, I've already answered that a while back.


smitty2013-05-16 11:05:19
Stop being a chick Hybrid -.- you also could have replied his question instead of bitching around.


MGDrone2013-05-16 21:21:08
Let me rephrase what I said before. To me, the Transfiguration Suite is utterly fake. I haven't listened to Cat Suite through. I don't care about the other suites (A Dark Knight, Bane Mezzo). What my question regard is the Bane Suite. The version I downloaded contains some interesting bits and sounds as if its better quality. Im not an expert, but Im also not an idiot. It sounds like or near 320 Kbps on my Sennheiser 280 HD headphones. Now, Im sure someone could have edited in parts of the score that are definitely 320 Kbps and mixed it with the unreleased material, but I just can't hear any seams or flaws in the editing. I would describe the differences, but I think I'll just upload it to soundcloud and maybe Hybrid could confirm its authenticity.

I hate to be an annoyance, but I did state originally that even I was skeptical about this. And, I believe others would be curious too. Maybe it's just that shred of hope that these suites could be out there in good quality, since others aren't willing to share them.


MGDrone2013-05-16 22:09:41
Check it out, people:

https://sound cloud.com/mgdrone

Hybrid, real or not? There are moments when it sounds like Moody Bruce Suite is better in quality, but I wonder if its just my imagination. Please feel free to add your own feedback, anyone.


Mike2013-05-16 22:57:36
The Cat Suite seems fake to me...


Aragorn2013-05-16 23:18:02
The Cat Suite sounds like "Mind If I Cut In?", followed by the app suite, followed by "Selina Finds Dagget". I highly doubt it's official.


Nightmare2013-05-17 01:56:22
The only things worth noting (though they are declared fake) are the imagine the fire film edits and the music before Chasing the convoy east. To me, those are impressive edits.


Christ2013-05-21 07:22:02
The Alt prologue track is legitimate, check out the extra percs in the action sequences towards the end.


Anonymous2013-07-16 05:31:35
The "Moody Bruce Transfiguration Suite" is not fake; it's simply under an alternate name. The original track is called "Aurora," and it was composed and released by Zimmer after the Aurora shootings. All the proceeds go to charity. Buy it below.

https://watertowermusic.moontoast.com/estore/embed/1336

The Bane and Cat Suites are also official releases, originally an exclusive through an iPhone app.


Hybrid Soldier2013-07-16 12:32:22
..... nope...


Mike2013-07-16 17:56:52
I highly, highly doubt Zimmer would be so tacky as to take a random suite he wrote and say, "Hey, I made this piece for you guys". He said he recorded it after the shooting. I believe him.

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2013-06-28 21:52:21
Is it just me or does this score seem kind of sloppily put together? No doubt Zimmer's suites are good, but the cues seem kinda poorly done. For example, the "All Out War" cue sounds like a fan-edit. "Sacrifice" sounds awkward in a way I can't quite place. Batman Chased sounds like a techno piece. "Rooftop Fight" sounds awkward without the end credits insert. "Fernet-Branca" sounds way too electronic. And I think it's telling that "Batman Chased", "Fernet-Branca" and "Rooftop Fight" were heavily altered in the film itself. Why? Because they could be a lot better.

Now be aware, I do like this score a lot. It does have some fantastic cues like "Prologue", "Bar Shootout", "Take Me to Bane", "Not Meant to Die Here", "Without a Rope", "The Slow Knife", "It Was the Batman", and "No Stone Unturned". I also love Hans' suites for the film. But the scores (read: cues) to the previous two films felt like they were superior in quality, and however much this score might work when played against the film, it's not the best listen by itself.


Jimmy2013-06-29 01:10:22
I think maybe they felt like they were superior because the previous two relied less on the ghost writers.

Johanne reply Replies: 10 || 2013-05-25 20:41:21
IMHO this is a much better sequel score than The Dark Knight was. There's so much new stuff in it. Most of the cues are new stuff. Tracks 12, 15-18, 32, 42-43, 48, and 50-53 (12 cues out of 54) recycle old material, but most of it still incorporates new stuff in some way. TDK recycled a lot of old cues (LSI Extraction, Trip to Hong Kong, You're Gonna Love Me, Gordon Is Dead, & Gordon Returns Home, and Wired) and didn't feel like its themes were as developed.


Mike2013-05-25 20:53:28
Whoa, man, don't hate on The Dark Knight. The reason a lot of cues were reused was because Chris Nolan loved the music in Begins and determined he "wouldn't need much in the way of new music for The Dark Knight" (see the booklet that comes with TDK's 2-CD release). I agree that TDK isn't as thematically developed (we have the Joker theme, which is used incessantly, Dent's theme, which is reimagined from the first movie, and the new Batman theme, which isn't used nearly enough), but I think the score is an admirable one. There are more new cues than you might at first think, but, in keeping with the Joker and the whole "chaos" theme of the film, they're more like "noise" than "melodious".


Mike2013-05-25 20:58:08
And I should add that, in my opinion, TDK was the one to perfectly balance the use of the DUN DUN DUN end credits theme. Batman Begins didn't use it enough, while The Dark Knight Rises used it any time Batman did anything even remotely sudden.


Aragorn2013-05-25 21:03:08
"The Dark Knight Rises used it any time Batman did anything even remotely sudden..."

lol, you can just imagine Hans or Lorne or whoever eagerly watching a scene they need to score and just WAITING excitedly
for the chance to employ that music. XD


Ds2013-05-25 21:42:35
Aragorn, thought the same thing while watching the movie. I think they were in deep love with that tune (and so am i), and were incessantly thinking: "Come on, this is the last Batman we do, this is the last time ever we can use this, so LET'S GO!" :p


Mike2013-05-25 21:49:05
I like the theme a lot, too, Ds, and it made perfect sense to use it when Batman showed up in the tunnel (my favorite part of the movie) and when he saved Blake from the thugs, but when Batman said, "This isn't a car", we had just heard it in the previous scene. And when Batman appears out of the exploding building at the end, it sounds really forced.


Ds2013-05-25 22:16:01
I thought all the end music (basically the entire track "Rise") was just PERFECT. One of the biggest goosebumps i've ever had in a theatre (on par with Beckett's death in PotC) :p


Mike2013-05-25 22:23:33
I agree. Even though the last minute and a half was a blatant copy of the music used in the previous movie (see "A Watchful Guardian"), I for once didn't care (I usually hate it when a whole cue is copied exactly). The entire ending scene gets my emotions going every time. Especially when I saw it in the theater.


Aragorn2013-05-25 22:28:17
I know!!! The way the music kind of swelled when Gordon said, "They know. It was the Batman." and you saw them uncover the statue. There were manly tears, I tell you!


James2013-05-28 22:17:29
Where can i buy this?
is there a complete score CD?

the OST doesn't have the end credits on it for some reason. And i can't find where the first section of the credits comes from. Its the same in all 3 films, but i don't know what the original track is, its similar to 1:10 of "imagine the fire" but its edited differently.

Thanks


Mike2013-05-28 22:28:52
James, the End Credits is a mixture of the following:

--first, the end credits for all the movies is the first few seconds
--second, the part from the "Fear Will Find You" album track when Batman and Selina fly away from Bane is the next few seconds
--then the next part you're referring to is "Backup" from Batman Begins, with the end part edited more like the "Imagine the Fire" track.

Hope that helps.

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