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Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.<br>I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.<br><br>Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on albumI can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfeís part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesnít seem to represent that for some reason.
I really liked Richterís score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.Richter did his recording in january and june 2019. The Director himself is a fan of Richter, so the deadline and director are not the reason.<br>It seemed that producers were not satisfied with Richter's music and they wanted something new, that's why they got Lorne. It turned out Lorne brought a very limited new...@Cercei<br>Hybrid can definitely answer that best. Richterís score is used (alongside Balfeís material) as well as some source pieces. If I remember correctly itís a mish-mash of the two.I do know that piece, itís very pretty. Iíll check out his other works, thanks for the recommendation. In terms of minimalism I really am into Brian Eno at the moment. His ďMusic For AirportsĒ and ďThe Lovely BonesĒ are excellent if you like more introspective music.
btw, you're saying Lorne recomposed and reworked the entire score. as i haven't seen the movie yet, did the producers end up with not using richters score for it at all and just used the score from Lorne?thanks for your information. but i actually don't understand why they have done that. i've heard now Lornes cues and Richters cues. all those cues from Lorne, they sound very similiar to that what Richter composed, but somehow with less melodies. And you really have to work hard to not use fewer melodies then Richter, as he's a minimalist at its best ^^ with that being said, i can't hear any groundbreaking differences from Lornes part, so what was their idea on hiring it and getting the same style of music, but in a more "light" version? :/i really admire Max Richters work, he isn't that new in this scene. his style is that repeating minimalism. maybe you've heard once the cue "on the nature of daylight" which was used a lot by many other movies. his last score which knocked me out was "Hostiles". such an emotional and intense score, you need to hear that, and probably see the movie as well (with Christian Bale). <br><br>Really surprised at this album, Iíve never really heard anything from Max Richter but I really like what he ended up writing for this score. It surprisingly flows well for a stand alone listen. Itís funny that the producers wanted a different approach, I think Richter nailed it.<br><br>Balfeís contribution is excellent as well, I particularly like that repeating chord progression (which is starting to become one of his trademarks considering how many times he has used it). Itís disappointing that they didnít include more of his contribution though, since he apparently rewrote the entire score.Lorne said in his Twitter, the first album for His Dark Materials come 3rd November, no date, for the moment, for the second album.
Was the producersi haven't understood the fact, that Lorne was involved in this. Can someone explain it for me? Was the director not satisfied with Richters music? Was the deadline too near? Or what was the reason why they have brought Lorne to this project?"The Wanderer", "Event Horizon", "You Have To Let Me Go" and "Tuesday (Voiceless)" = WOW WOW WOW!!!Zanelli is no James Newton Howard, but he did a fantastic job with writing a large scale fantasy score. Iíll even say that, while I think the first Maleficent is stronger overall, I personally like the action writing better here. Also 2 little things Iíve noticed;<br><br>1. The new theme here sounds fairly similar to the Father/Son tune from KFP3<br>2. 2:20-3:30 sounds like it may have been temped from the finale of Fantastic Beasts. (Or maybe Iím just crazy lol)Great work of Zanelli, if is not as good like JNH's Maleficent, is a tremendous work, with a terrific writing and orchestrations, even the most tender parts are terrific.
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Lorne BalfeAndrew KawczynskiDavid FlemingJasha Klebe
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Assassin's Creed III (VG)
Label: UbiSoft Music (Digital Download Only)
Length: 63'41
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  1. Assassin's Creed III Main Theme (3:06)
  2. An Uncertain Present (2:10)
  3. Escape In Style (2:15)
  4. Welcome To Boston (2:34)
  5. Freedom Fighter (2:16)
  6. A Bitter Truth (1:36)
  7. Through The Frontier (3:01)
  8. Connor's Life (4:56)
  9. Trouble In Town (2:25)
  10. Farewell (1:05)
  11. HomeStead (3:02)
  12. The Battle Of Breed's Hill (2:18)
  13. Speck Of Dust (2:52)
  14. Modern Assassin (3:05)
  15. Desmond's Destiny (1:38)
  16. The Aquilla (2:18)
  17. Fight Club (2:05)
  18. Eye Of The Storm (2:07)
  19. Temple Secrets (1:41)
  20. Beer And Friends (1:10)
  21. Battle At Sea (4:01)
  22. Breaching The Walls (3:32)
  23. Wild Instincts (2:44)
  24. What Came Before (4:11)
  25. Assassin's Creed III Main Theme Variation (1:33)
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AC3 reply Replies: 2 || 2016-06-15 19:46:07
Does anyone have the chronological order of the complete score that Lorne posted on his site??



AC32018-10-21 06:30:43
was anyone ever able to put the OST and the unreleased tracks together in chronological order?


Knight2018-10-21 19:46:37
Chronological order is near impossible for music in an open world game.

amir hossein reply Replies: 0 || 2015-01-26 18:19:38
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is incridible music.
I love this game.

Jasper reply Replies: 2 || 2013-10-22 01:44:13
The Black Flag soundtrack is out there. I know it's not really RCP related, but just thought I'd put it out there. And yes, Brian Tyler does a far better job at it than Lorne Balfe did, in my opinion, though I like both.


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-22 08:51:00
I wonder how many RCP people ghostwrote it without credit... :P


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-22 11:07:28
I was actually surprised to find myself quite bored by it, and I actually prefer Balfe's score. If you asked me whether I'd take Balfe or Tyler I'd pick the latter most days of the week, but in this case it's the other way around. So yeah, maybe there really was some ghostwriting going on...

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2013-07-10 15:05:41
An amazing score, the music is so fresh and dynamic and .. epic ! yes !!

Assassino reply Replies: 1 || 2013-07-09 01:34:27
Brian Tyler will compose the score for AC4.


Blu2013-07-09 06:18:34
Wow, this guy is getting way too much assignments these days. Must be quite a challenge. I hope he finds time to think about the notes he is writing too.

Markofrome reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-05 00:30:04
Great Work Lorne!!! "Assassin's Creed III" and "The Tyranny of King Washington" soundtracks wonderful!

Bondo reply Replies: 1 || 2013-03-17 04:32:06
FYI guys, Lorne posted what appears to be the remaining unreleased music on his site ;)


theeaglesfan0052013-04-02 20:42:44
what's the correct order then?

AssassinoZockt reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-02 15:32:05
Great work ,Mr.Balfe. But what happened with Jesper Kyd? And will you do the score for AC4 too?


Anonymous2013-04-02 18:00:33
he can't hear you

Bryan reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-17 11:52:26
track list of
Assassin's Creed III The Tyranny of King Wahsington by lorne balfe
01. Assassin's Creed III Main Theme (Wall of Sound Remix)
02. Ratonhnhakť ton (Ratonhnhakť:ton)
03. The Tyrant
04. Frozen
05. Solitude
06. Frontier At Arms
07. Winter's Grasp
08. You Must Succeed
09. Seekers
10. Tracking The Prey
11. Against All Odds
12. He Is Our Beacon
13. The Betrayal
14. Swift And Silent
15. Rooftop Chase
16. Dark Alleys
17. The Key
18. Escape Artist
19. Closed City
20. Helpless
21. The Ruse
22. Nightmares
23. The Redemption
24. Fallen Warriors
25. Wolf In Sheep's Clothing
26. Taking Up Arms
27. The True Rulers
28. Risking Everything
29. Alone Against All
30. Unwavering Resolve
31. Laying Up The Trap
32. The Will To Endure
33. King Washington
34. Ghost Trail
35. Duel At Dawn
36. Man With The Wolf Hood
37. The Betrayal (Alternate Version)
38. The Redemption (Alternate Version)
39. King Washington (Alternate Version)
40. King Washington (Revisited Version)

Radik reply Replies: 4 || 2013-03-05 21:23:17
Will Lorne scoring Assassin's Creed 4 too? :)


T-Mann0362013-03-06 04:34:45
I have a gut feeling that Lorne will be composing Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag.


DIMITRIS KROMMIDAS2013-03-06 14:14:33
That would be great!!! I wish for Hans Zimmer and Lorne Balfe!!


cody2013-03-07 00:21:20
They should bring back Jesper Kyd :(


T-Mann0362013-03-08 09:10:56
Too bad that Jesper have turned it down and not compose any music from the AC franchise.

DIMITRIS KROMMIDAS reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-05 17:16:39
UBISOFT ANNOUCENT ASSASSINS CREED:IV:BLACK FLAG AND ITS IN THE PIRATE ERA!!! I WISH HANS ZIMMER TO SCORE IT!!!! THE ASSASSINS CREED 3 SCORE WAS EPIC!!! GREETINGS FROM GREECE MR ZIMMER!!! WE LOVE YOU AND YOUR STUDENTS!!!!WE WAIT FOR MAN OF STEEL AND THE LONE RANGER...I AM VERY HAPPY THAT HANS ZIMMER WILL SCORE THE LONE RANGER!!! ITS GOING TO BE EPIC AND ANOTHER MASTERPIECE LIKE ALL HIS SCORES!!!


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-05 18:27:13
We've found him! The archetypal fanboy!! OH MY SQUEEEING GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!!


Mike2013-03-05 19:17:44
While I couldn't suppress a smile, that was uncalled for, Edmund. lol.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-05 20:49:56
ALL CAPS and overuse of the word "epic"? Um, it was totally called for and you know it. ;)

Radik reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-25 22:09:32
After complete the game I must say.. GREAT SCORE.. perfect conclusion to the AC.. my favorite track is What Came Before.. is so beautiful :)

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-09 02:03:07
FYI Lorne Balfe posted a new track on his website, "Connor's Story"

Tim reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-04 20:29:20
I bought the album yesterday! it's totally worth it...on Amazon :PPP Anyway, I love the main theme and the fact that Lorne reprises "Labored and Lost" as a theme for the forerunners. Good job Mr Balfe :)

P.S.: As all as I heard Jesper Kyd left the series himself. He wasn't kicked off by Lorne as one or two fellows might think. Jesper left the Hitman-franchise as well. And I think Lorne is great replacement:) that's for you grumpy users ;)

Bar reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-01 18:25:53
Well,

after listening to the entire album i must say the revelations one is much better,especially the main theme.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-01 12:45:40
I know it's a stretch to ask right now since the game just came out, but at some point would someone mind attempting to put this in chronological order? I'm doing this as I'm playing the game, but I'm MAYBE 1/5 of the way through...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2012-10-31 23:28:00
Lorne told me they wrote nearly 4 hours for the game.

He'll put unreleased cues on his site very soon.


Macejko2012-11-01 10:04:43
That's good news, I'd like to hear some ambient music too.


lolly2012-11-01 11:10:49
i really like how lorne is so open to his fans and is willing to give us more material.

not like hans, promising since 20 years to bring a complete release of the lion kind, but disappeared again...

Macejko reply Replies: 1 || 2012-10-31 18:31:13
Ok, I gave it one more listening. The Main Theme is great, powerfull and epic... but the rest lacks variation and originality and is pretty uninteresting in general.


Radik2012-10-31 21:04:08
So We'll must wait until then game release.. how it works in game itself.. :)

Bondo reply Replies: 4 || 2012-10-30 12:29:02
It's available on Amazon MP3 right now, $8.99 and totally worth it!


Bondo2012-10-30 22:13:39
Listen to "Fight Club" and "Beer With Friends" if you liked Sherlock or Skylanders :D


theeaglesfan0052012-10-31 13:59:18
$9.99 on iTunes in high quality... Amazon is 256kbps mp3 which is $%*& compared to 256kbps m4a


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-31 15:12:03
Studio Masters quality FLAC 24 bits on Qobuz...

*iTunes to the ground*

:P


theeaglesfan0052012-10-31 16:15:55
im in 'Merica

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-31 05:24:54
Epic!!!!!

Radik reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-30 20:38:38
and Desmond Destiny too :)

Macejko reply Replies: 2 || 2012-10-30 15:51:02
After the first listening - not as good as I hoped :(


Anonymous2012-10-30 16:46:25
I agree. Expected much more. Revelations was much better. Every track sounds like a generic action track with drum loops, overdone brass synth with some violins playing in the back. With removing the vocals and the choir this score has lost all dramatics and emotion. Shame cause after revelations I expected a blockbuster score...


Radik2012-10-30 20:34:48
Speck of Dust.. remind me Revelations :)

david reply Replies: 2 || 2012-10-21 20:39:08
Check this masterpiece www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJgNtvjtUo


al bundy2012-10-22 22:39:57
sounds nice


MEOW!2012-10-24 16:16:06
It sounds really cool! I love the album cover too! It's very Epic! I actually found another cool score recently on iTunes called Pantheon by some composer called Zaalen Tallis which is really epic as well! You guys might want to check that out too.

P.S. Bring on Superman already!!! :P


tomPoland reply Replies: 1 || 2012-10-21 09:18:52
Kyd should do it, Balfe doesn't feel Assassins and their Creed


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-21 09:42:55
You always have the wise word, tom ! I don't really get why you keep posting here ! :/

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 7 || 2012-10-20 00:04:07
Can't wait ! :)


Anonymous2012-10-20 00:08:44
Damn. No full official relaase. This seems so short after the 3CDs we got last time :(


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-20 00:15:00
As far as Lorne is concerned, the last one was 75 min for him, including multiplayer stuff...

So that one isn't exactly FAR from that... :)


Anonymous2012-10-20 00:42:41
Oh well better then nothing. For me Lorne is the new Zimmer these days. He has a great sound. Only a few more days of waiting.


Bioscope2012-10-20 05:35:33
I love his take on the ethnic idiom, coupled with some serious dakness, so i can't wait to hear the Native American flavour.


Bondo2012-10-20 12:45:51
From the clips, you can hear Sherlock Holmes in "Fight Club" :D

And it's great that he kept the continuity by re-stating some of the themes from AC:R


Macejko2012-10-20 13:53:49
Bondo: Are there audio clips already?


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-20 14:01:54
Yeah amazon.com (right on the left corner here !) or qobuz.com ! :)

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-20 00:27:01
With this score I hope Lorne will definitely convince me that he has what it takes to make some epic music.

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