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I'll try to explain myself more with the scores I wasn't a big fan of. I really like a lot of Gears of War 3. It has a lot of faster paced, melodic action cues, and the cues from Gears of War 2 are improved. Its main problem is it's not very memorable, which Jablonsky is usually able to produce. <br><br>Ender's Game I found to be a bit of a slog. There was a lot of ambient/sound design cues which I found incredibly dull. However, it's possible I was expecting too much, or maybe I was too harsh on it. I'll try to have another listen to that one. <br><br>Gangster Squad was one where I just looked at the comments to see what people thought about it, and the consensus was "it copied every recent Hollywood score", so I just skipped that one. <br><br>TF3 had a lot of good thematic material, and the finale's action music was a lot of fun, but it lacks the memorability and excitement of the first 2, or the subtlety of 5, making it fall in the middle for me. Plus the Inception sound was pretty annoying. <br><br>Gears of War 2 falls into mediocre for me. The main theme is solid, but the action is repetitive and doesn't have much variation. Plus it also wasn't very memorable. It's basically a worse version of Gears 3 to me. <br><br>Transformers 1 and 2 don't really count to me because those were more an RCP effort than a Jablonsky one. Just to clarify, I don't hate that Jablonsky went down this route. I first learned of his existence through the Transformers scores for god's sake. It's just that listening to Steamboy, it makes me sad there wasn't more of this side of Jablonsky. Oh, and honorable mention to TMNT: Out of the Shadows, that was a great superhero score!Gangster Squad was Ok, but i prefer Ender's Game, actually the sound design in that i find it certain interesting.<br><br>In Battleship, yeah, it's nothing original, but for me, is a guilty pleasure, i love the percussion (i'm a big fan of the taiko sound)<br><br>Enderís Game isnít bad at all, there are some cool power anthems and orchestral moments in it. As for Battleship, while I find most of it generic, I genuinely do like the alien ďMRIĒ sound design he incorporated.<br><br>And one of Jablonskyís most underrated scores imo is Gangster Squad. If you want a fun Jablonsky score that strays away (mostly) from the Zimmer sound thatís it. Any score using Antz as a temp track is fine by me!I will disagree with TF3, Ender's Game, Gears of War 2 and 3, there are good scores, altough i'm a massive fan of that guilty pleasure is Battleship ;D<br><br>And A Nightmare on Elm Street was cool.John Powell to receive Henry Mancini Award. <br><br>Look it up at filmmusicreporter.<br><br>Congrats John
Edmund's right. It's really just sad that Jablonsky could have been one of the greatest composers ever, one with more notoriety and respect from the music community, but instead settled for being... a decent composer.<br><br>TF5 was a step in the right direction, D-War was a great monster movie score, Your Highness came close to Steamboy levels, and IDEA felt like Jablonsky's symphony in a lot of ways. But on the other end you have Ender's Game, Transformers 3 and 4, Battleship, Gears of War 2, Gears of War: Judgement, and a few others that range from ok, to flat out awful. Occasionally though you get some decent ones like Gears of War 3, and A Nightmare on Elm Street.<br><br>My point is, we get a composer overridden with bland projects, and musically inept directors, when he had the potential for being Oscar level.This just occurred to me. 1:44-2:10ish in Remember Who You Are kind of sounds like part of Mozartís Ave Verum Corpus...and we know Hans is a fan of that piece...@mpolonest: I'm the opposite side: BvS grown each time i listened.<br><br>Not the same for MoS ;D@DS<br><br>You are absolutely right, and it was something that I did think about while I was writing the post, I just never clarified it. <br><br>But that also has the opposite effect as well. I've had plenty of scores/songs which originally I liked that I gradually grew to dislike or simply lose interest. One of the most recent ones is BvS, which I enjoyed when it came out but looking back is probably one of my least favorite Zimmer scores.@Edmund @Ds totally agree! This days the only composer that convince me is Steven Price.
Is there a Balfe score that is not very temped? Every single Balfe score I listened to is basically giving an old score a fresh set of paint.mpolonest123: it's difficult to compare scores that are 10 years old and that you had plenty of time to digest, with brand new scores you've only heard a couple of times.<br><br>You said it yourself, when Clash of the Titans came out you thought it was generic and forgettable. It's only later that you noticed all these themes and all the work Djawadi put into it.<br><br>And actually it works like that with any new album released by any major artist. Fans are always like "it sucks, I prefer their previous albums". And yet 5 years later they love all these songs and know them by heart. :-pEdmund: I see your point, and if everyone could become 100% objective it would be actually true. But in practice, our personal tastes play a heavy role in deciding whether a score is interesting or fun or creative or intelligent or enjoyable. Some people like very classical, orchestral music more than anything else; even if JXL was creating the craziest soundtrack ever, his sound palette and synthetic approach alone would be enough to make these people dislike the score and say it's rubbish. The level of detail he put in Tomb Raider is astonishing, but sadly it'll only be noticed by people who are not upset by this style of brutal and synthetic environment. Of course it also works the other way, dry orchestral scores like Giacchino frequently writes do nothing to me, I don't particularly like this kind of sound, so I never spent a lot of time listening to them. As a consequence, I never was able to dissect them to discover all their (I guess) richness, subtleties, etc. So from my point of view, almost all Giacchino scores sound the same way and are not interesting, and I don't understand how and why he keeps getting all those major assignments. That's to say, our personal preferences will always interfere with our judgment, even if we honestly try to be fair.I feel like I see/have this kind of conversation on film music boards all the time. The approach isn't the problem, it's the execution. For example, when Man of Steel came out:<br><br>me: "I'm a bit disappointed by Man of Steel, it has its moments but I don't think it's a very good score overall"<br>fanboys: "JOHN WILLIAMS WAS YESTERDAY, ZIMMER IS TODAY, THIS IS A DIFFERENT SUPERMAN BLAH BLAH BLAH GET OVER IT"<br>me: "...did I mention Williams?"<br><br>or else Mad Max: Fury Road<br><br>me: "Mad Max is a decent score but I feel like the film deserved much more"<br>fanboys: "THERE'S LITERALLY A DUDE ON A DRUM CAR WITH A FLAMETHROWER GUITAR WHAT DID YOU EXPECT"<br>me: "...a composer who does more interesting things with those drums and that guitar?"<br><br>All over the place. It was really aggravating. This is a similar situation A talented film composer can write interesting, engaging music in all sorts of styles, for all sorts of films and under all sorts of directorial conditions. My issue with Tomb Raider isn't that it's not a traditional Jerry Goldsmith adventure score. I never expected that from this film, and certainly not from this composer. It's just not a very interesting or intelligent or enjoyable version of what it's trying to be, and that's the bottom line.@mrzimmerfan <br><br>I completely agree with you. Tomb Raider definitely didnít need a traditional score at all. And I love all the scores youíve mentioned. I even donít have a problem with the approach he took.<br><br>But I just donít like the score as is. We just have to agree to disagree, no harm done. :-)
I don't think he means that, just that it would have been interesting if Jablonsky had gone more into animated movies like Powell did, rather than mostly Michael Bay. I think maybe we got a hint of what that could have been like with Your Highness a few years ago, a score I'll always defend, but yeah...the lack of follow-up to Steamboy is a great tragedy in Jablonsky's career.@mpolonest: I will enjoyed more Run All Night than Mad Max, hell, even The Dark Tower.<br><br>But with Tomb Raider, this movie is harsh, with a real character, and an adventure score a la Goldsmith or JNH, will not benefit anything about it. And in there, there is a lot of great sounds and ideas pop up in all the score.<br><br>And this is telling you a guy who LOVE The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, the entire Indiana Jones and Jumanji scores.@mpolonest: I will enjoyed more Run All Night than Mad Max, hell, even The Dark Tower.<br><br>But with Tomb Raider, this movie is harsh, with a real character, and an adventure score a la Goldsmith or JNH, will not benefit anything about it. And in there, there is a lot of great sounds and ideas pop up in all the score.<br><br>And this is telling you a guy who LOVE The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, the entire Indiana Jones and Jumanji scores.I don't think Jablonsky is going to be a new John Powell ;)<br><br>But this one of his most notable efforts, i will said that.This is feels like a very temped soundtrack, only that explains why the score is so generic. I wonder which movies music scenes producer-director used to make lorne do this. <br><br>Track 8 - is Tron legacy (dont know maybe he worked on it, powell was involved maybe he was too)

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Red Dawn
Label: Sony Masterworks
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  1. Red Dawn (2:48)
    Ramin Djawadi
  2. Wolverines (2:07)
    Ramin Djawadi
  3. Invasion (4:14)
    Ramin Djawadi, Bobby Tahouri
  4. Execution (2:58)
    Ramin Djawadi
  5. I'm Gonna Fight (3:07)
    Ramin Djawadi
  6. We Need Better Weapons (2:16)
    Ramin Djawadi, Bobby Tahouri
  7. What Do You Miss? (0:58)
    Ramin Djawadi
  8. Victory (1:00)
    Ramin Djawadi, Dominic Lewis
  9. Brothers (1:25)
    Ramin Djawadi
  10. Counter Insurgency (4:00)
    Ramin Djawadi, Bryce Jacobs
  11. A Terrible Haircut (1:36)
    Ramin Djawadi
  12. Even A Small Flea Can Drive A Big Dog Crazy (2:29)
    Ramin Djawadi
  13. Erica (1:36)
    Ramin Djawadi
  14. Surveying The Damage (1:08)
    Ramin Djawadi
  15. Preparing The Cabin (1:46)
    Ramin Djawadi
  16. Follow The Wires (8:23)
    Ramin Djawadi, Bobby Tahouri
  17. Daryl's Sacrifice (2:07)
    Ramin Djawadi, Dominic Lewis
  18. A Marine And His Rifle (2:46)
    Ramin Djawadi
  19. Jed's Death (2:06)
    Ramin Djawadi
  20. Finale (2:29)
    Ramin Djawadi
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Macejko reply Replies: 3 || 2013-02-19 21:30:22
To Hybrid: Can you tell me if Ramin is up to something new, besides Game of Thrones - Season 3 and Pacific Rim?

Hybrid Soldier2013-04-24 14:02:11
No news yet !

I added the track credits to this score... :)

Jimmer2013-04-24 17:11:09
@Hybrid : Thanks for adding the credits for this score. Always appreciated. I'm a stickler for correct/accurate composers. Thanks again.

Hybrid Soldier2013-04-24 17:15:33
I can also give you a correct chronological order if you want !

Red Dawn
Preparing The Cabin
Surveying The Damage
I'm Gonna Fight
We Need Better Weapons
Even A Small Flea Can Drive A Big Dog Crazy
What Do You Miss?
Counter Insurgency
A Terrible Haircut
Follow The Wires
Jed's Death
Daryl's Sacrifice
Suite : A Marine & His Rifle (aka Mission Theme)
Suite : Wolverine


Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-02 18:26:43
Really superb score, I like it a lot. Wolverines' theme is stunningly powerfull.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-01 09:21:53
I got some news from the additional composers regarding their work here. They did not remember everything since they worked on it more than 2 years ago.

But Dom Lewis worked on Victory and Daryl's Sacrifice. Apparently that's all.

Bobby Tahouri worked on Invasion and "some others".

And Bryce Jacobs worked on Counter Insurgency and "others" too ! :)

We'll probably get all the details in months to come, but big thanks to these great guys, and Ramin of course, the mastermind here !!! :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2012-11-20 10:06:03
Bought this yesterday, I've listened to it a couple of times so far.

Really love it. The main "Wolverines" theme is great. A Marine And His Rifle is a good rendition of it !

Love the track Red Dawn too ! :)

Macejko2012-11-20 11:07:11
Gosh, I want to listen to it so bad!

MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-11-20 21:09:50
I listen few samples, i really like this score

Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-21 20:39:55
Listened to it on Spotify. It's enjoyable and harmless fun I guess, but it's nowhere near as great as Poledouris' score for the original.

MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-11-24 11:39:22
I really like this score, the Themes are very entertaing, especially Wolverines and Red Dawn, and i love Invasion, that percussions, oh....

OKKU reply Replies: 6 || 2012-10-27 10:39:31
Ramin Djawadi similar music FACTORY

Macejko2012-10-27 14:17:33
Are you just putting random words together?

Areozz2012-10-27 19:02:54
I believe he is trying to say that Djawadi's style of composing is so similar for every movie he does that he is almost like a 'music factory'--outputting nearly identical compositions for each and every movie.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with this claim; merely interpreting it.

Macejko2012-10-27 19:18:52
If so, I can see myself laughing really hard about this statement.

OKKU2012-10-28 18:49:06
I like short comment and I mean(sorry my english bad):

Super (12 January 2012) - Composer
Legacy (19 January 2012) - Composer
Root Cause (2 February 2012) - Composer
Wolf and Cub (9 February 2012) - Composer
Blue Code (16 February 2012) - Composer
Risk (23 February 2012) - Composer
Baby Blue (8 March 2012) - Composer
Identity Crisis (29 March 2012) - Composer
Flesh and Blood (5 April 2012) - Composer
Matsya Nyaya (26 April 2012) - Composer
Many Happy Returns (3 May 2012) - Composer
No Good Deed (10 May 2012) - Composer
Firewall (17 May 2012) - Composer
The Contingency (27 September 2012) - Composer
Bad Code (4 October 2012) - Composer
Masquerade (18 October 2012) - Composer
Triggerman (25 October 2012) - Composer

OKKU2012-10-28 18:51:47
and for 2012
The North Remembers (1 April 2012) - Composer
The Night Lands (8 April 2012) - Composer
What Is Dead May Never Die (15 April 2012) - Composer
Garden of Bones (22 April 2012) - Composer
The Ghost of Harrenhal (29 April 2012) - Composer
The Old Gods and the New (6 May 2012) - Composer
A Man Without Honor (13 May 2012) - Composer
The Prince of Winterfell (20 May 2012) - Composer
Blackwater (27 May 2012) - Composer
Valar Morghulis (3 June 2012) - Composer

OKKU2012-10-28 18:56:01
Look at:

Vordmira reply Replies: 1 || 2012-10-27 22:10:10
Damnit, there is spoiler in the track list!

Evenstar2012-10-28 08:14:25
uuuuh... we never had spoilers in tracklists... uuuh...

dude, this happens a lot.

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-25 20:13:39
This autumn, no, this YEAR belongs to Ramin!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-25 20:00:33
Can't wait !! :)© 2001-2017 OST 
Red Dawn soundtrack - Ramin Djawadi 2012