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Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.<br>I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.<br><br>Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on albumI can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfeís part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesnít seem to represent that for some reason.
I really liked Richterís score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.Richter did his recording in january and june 2019. The Director himself is a fan of Richter, so the deadline and director are not the reason.<br>It seemed that producers were not satisfied with Richter's music and they wanted something new, that's why they got Lorne. It turned out Lorne brought a very limited new...@Cercei<br>Hybrid can definitely answer that best. Richterís score is used (alongside Balfeís material) as well as some source pieces. If I remember correctly itís a mish-mash of the two.I do know that piece, itís very pretty. Iíll check out his other works, thanks for the recommendation. In terms of minimalism I really am into Brian Eno at the moment. His ďMusic For AirportsĒ and ďThe Lovely BonesĒ are excellent if you like more introspective music.
btw, you're saying Lorne recomposed and reworked the entire score. as i haven't seen the movie yet, did the producers end up with not using richters score for it at all and just used the score from Lorne?thanks for your information. but i actually don't understand why they have done that. i've heard now Lornes cues and Richters cues. all those cues from Lorne, they sound very similiar to that what Richter composed, but somehow with less melodies. And you really have to work hard to not use fewer melodies then Richter, as he's a minimalist at its best ^^ with that being said, i can't hear any groundbreaking differences from Lornes part, so what was their idea on hiring it and getting the same style of music, but in a more "light" version? :/i really admire Max Richters work, he isn't that new in this scene. his style is that repeating minimalism. maybe you've heard once the cue "on the nature of daylight" which was used a lot by many other movies. his last score which knocked me out was "Hostiles". such an emotional and intense score, you need to hear that, and probably see the movie as well (with Christian Bale). <br><br>Really surprised at this album, Iíve never really heard anything from Max Richter but I really like what he ended up writing for this score. It surprisingly flows well for a stand alone listen. Itís funny that the producers wanted a different approach, I think Richter nailed it.<br><br>Balfeís contribution is excellent as well, I particularly like that repeating chord progression (which is starting to become one of his trademarks considering how many times he has used it). Itís disappointing that they didnít include more of his contribution though, since he apparently rewrote the entire score.Lorne said in his Twitter, the first album for His Dark Materials come 3rd November, no date, for the moment, for the second album.
Was the producersi haven't understood the fact, that Lorne was involved in this. Can someone explain it for me? Was the director not satisfied with Richters music? Was the deadline too near? Or what was the reason why they have brought Lorne to this project?"The Wanderer", "Event Horizon", "You Have To Let Me Go" and "Tuesday (Voiceless)" = WOW WOW WOW!!!Zanelli is no James Newton Howard, but he did a fantastic job with writing a large scale fantasy score. Iíll even say that, while I think the first Maleficent is stronger overall, I personally like the action writing better here. Also 2 little things Iíve noticed;<br><br>1. The new theme here sounds fairly similar to the Father/Son tune from KFP3<br>2. 2:20-3:30 sounds like it may have been temped from the finale of Fantastic Beasts. (Or maybe Iím just crazy lol)Great work of Zanelli, if is not as good like JNH's Maleficent, is a tremendous work, with a terrific writing and orchestrations, even the most tender parts are terrific.
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Steve JablonskyMatthew MargesonJacob SheaNathan Whitehead
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Gangster Squad
Label: Varese Sarabande
Length: 56'03
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  1. His Name Is Mickey Cohen (2:28)
  2. Welcome To Los Angeles (3:13)
  3. He Can't Have You (1:40)
  4. War For The Soul Of LA (2:49)
  5. There Goes Our Ride (1:15)
  6. You Can't Shoot Me (3:52)
  7. Always Knew I'd Die In Burbank (2:29)
  8. You're Talking To God (0:51)
  9. The Bug (2:18)
  10. Hot Potato With A Grenade (3:19)
  11. You Know The Drill (1:07)
  12. I Was Just Hopin' To Take You To Bed (1:31)
  13. Kill 'Em All (1:59)
  14. Chinatown (4:29)
  15. Keeler (2:18)
  16. Connie Lives (1:54)
  17. Let's Finish It (2:26)
  18. Union Station (1:35)
  19. Light 'Em Up (7:28)
  20. The City Of Angels (4:04)
  21. Gangster Squad (2:58)
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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-01-12 09:55:07
There's a lot of Desperate Housewives, Texas Chainsaw and... Antz in it !


Mr. Charles2013-01-13 00:02:45
I can also hear "Whitwicky" from Transformers. But I liked the score in the film, I made it my goal to pay attention to it


Johnson2013-01-13 04:24:50
Actually, if you pay close attention, Jablonsky also seems to be channeling Thomas Newman...Big Time...

This reminds me of Road to Perdition...


Evenstar2013-01-13 09:24:42
Still an amazing score.


Ds2013-01-13 12:39:31
What track is playing just after the shooting in the street, when Ryan Gosling walks in the direction of Mickey Cohen in slow motion?


Ds2013-01-13 15:10:21
(i found it, it's You Can't Shoot Me)


Edmund Meinerts2013-02-15 22:42:31
I was wondering how the heck a score like this could sound like Antz, but it's definitely there in "Welcome to Los Angeles" and "Hot Potato with a Grenade". Bum-badum-bum bum-badum-bum etc...cool! The Thomas Newman/Road to Perdition twist is a neat touch, though considering Jablonsky hasn't exactly been adverse to throwing bits of Newman into his scores here and there in the past, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. You can definitely trace the influences but I think it's cool that it goes beyond just being a stock modern thriller score. Not a patch on Steamboy, Your Highness or the original Transformers (which is the big Jablonsky triumvirate of awesomeness for me), but it goes a long way towards letting me forgive him for Battleship.

Mr. Fate reply Replies: 6 || 2013-01-14 04:19:43
So...let me get this straight. From what I'm reading here, it seems like this score is pretty awesome what with traces of these past scores being heard in it: Battleship, Sherlock Holmes, Desperate Housewives, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Antz, Road to Perdition, Inception, Transformers and The Untouchables.

I don't think I've ever seen a single score compared to that many other scores. Is that good? Is it bad? I have no idea, but will this list grow longer?


f..k y..o2013-01-14 07:09:14
Shut Up!


Ray2013-01-14 08:45:04
Mr. Fate, I would necessarily say its bad, but it's definitely not Jablonsky's best work either. Though, I do have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it, and it absolutely has similarities to all the aforementioned scores.

Oh, and this so called "f..k y..o"... Really? I think you added an extra dot to the word you.


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2013-01-14 11:28:19
I don't think is a bad score, is a very entertaing score, reminiescenes? in every work of RC.


f..k y..o2013-01-14 16:03:18
my name! frank yam...o


ToddL2013-01-19 03:50:10
I really like the score -- going to see the movie this weekend. I hear a lot of older H-GW influences in the slow pieces. I listened to Replacement Killers, Light It Up and Liar earlier....wonderful. Just a mention....Not to take anything away from Jablonsky. He is one of my favs -- fantastic composer who can write an unforgettable theme.


ToddL2013-01-19 03:50:10
I really like the score -- going to see the movie this weekend. I hear a lot of older H-GW influences in the slow pieces. I listened to Replacement Killers, Light It Up and Liar earlier....wonderful. Just a mention....Not to take anything away from Jablonsky. He is one of my favs -- fantastic composer who can write an unforgettable theme.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 2 || 2013-01-13 20:58:04
I've been listening to this soundtrack completely earlier today. I was completely speechless listening to Steve's composed work. Even for a gangster picture, it reminds me of a combination of the Transformers trilogy, Inception, with a touch of The Untouchables. Just like the Battleship complete film score and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen complete score, the Gangster Squad film score is truly one Jablonsky's best scores ever made.

Overall: 4.5 out of 5


Edmund Meinerts2013-01-13 22:25:58
The fact that you picked Revenge of the Fallen and Battleship as Jablonsky's two best doesn't exactly give me hope for this. You really want to hear Steve at his best, go listen to Steamboy (!!!!!!) and Your Highness, or the original Transformers, or his additional music for Tears of the Sun and Pearl Harbor. Hell, even Dark of the Moon was better than Revenge of the Fallen (and before you ask, yes, I've heard them all as completes).


T-Mann0362013-01-13 22:42:29
I can't object your comment, Edmund.

abc reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-12 09:43:16
Great Score!!! I love it

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-09 17:26:51
I'm just back from the movie, it was very cool. Jablonsky's work was also very cool. Pretty dark, it has the funny side of Sherlock Holmes and the loudness of Battleship (but without its noisy electronics :) )

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-09 04:53:38
5/5 Out in the new year we have the hard hitting score from Steve Jablonsky and for Varese Sarabande... Well done!
-Jeremy [Retro-Z]

Miles reply Replies: 6 || 2013-01-07 18:17:15
It sounds OK to me for the most part. Nice jazzy rhythm on "Welcome To Los Angeles," "War For The Soul," "Hot Potato with a Grenade," and "Gangster Squad" (which also has a very noirish oboe accompaniment). "He Can't Have You," "I Was Just Hopin' To Take You To Bed," and "Union Station" are nice breaks in the action for piano, and there's some nice string work (seems to be Jablonsky's strength). However, several tracks (notably "You Can't Shoot Me," "You're Talking To God," "Kill 'Em All," and "The City Of Angels") seem to have more of the "Zimmeresque" unsubtle contemporary style than seems appropriate. I'll have to wait for the full soundtrack before I pass judgment, but my impression is that it's a significant step up from the droning, dissonant mess that was Battleship, but a lighter touch would have been better in some spots.


Mr. Charles2013-01-07 21:05:50
Is this "droning, dissonant mess that was Battleship" the OST or sessions? I still haven't had a chance to listen to the sessions yet.

And does anyone know when this is out? Hopefully tomorrow in the US. cause that's usually when a film's score is released - the Tuesday before the film opens, which is Friday


Anonymous2013-01-07 21:21:45
Charles, the VS website will have all the details.


ToddL2013-01-07 22:00:59
On a different, yet somewhat related note, did anyone else read that Cutting Edge Group is going to purchase Varese Sarabande and increase soundtrack product by a good measure?


Mr. Charles2013-01-07 22:08:02
@Anonymous,

I was having a brain fart. I normally would have thought of that. Thanks.

@ToddL,

No, I didn't hear about that!! That's fantastic news!!


Macejko2013-01-07 22:25:53
This might be a good time to ask (and I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, and it probably is) - who is in charge of deciding whether a film score gets a release? Is it a movie studio, a record label, or a composer?


Ds2013-01-09 00:46:04
It's on iTunes US!

Frau Blucher reply Replies: 1 || 2013-01-06 02:50:37
Hybrid, I have 2 questions for you:

1.) When is this score being released, and when can we hear some god samples?

2.) Is the instrumental music heard in the beginning of the Pain & Gain trailer part of the score?

Thanks very much!


Mike2013-01-06 03:37:20
I can answer one thing. The release date is the 8th, so three more days (click "See Details").

jj reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-05 10:52:17
Do yall no when clips are going to come out on YouTube?

Andy reply Replies: 6 || 2012-12-17 20:05:39
Sampler^^
colosseum.de/product_info.php/info/p2608_Gangster-Squad--Ste ve-Jablonsky-.html


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-12-17 21:01:13
Sounds very good


Evenstar2012-12-17 21:05:25
sounds cool


Yruama2012-12-17 21:13:26
It sounds good but a memorable theme is really missing as Jablonsky knows how to make them.

Extracts remind me moreover a lot Battleship crossed by moment with Desperate Housewives.



MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-12-17 21:25:16
Battleship cross with Desperate Housewives? xD, for me sounds like Jerry Goldsmith crossed Hans Zimmer xD


Trent Easton Navarro2012-12-18 16:37:02
I'll wait till I've heard the whole score before I give my final judgement, but boy does this sound horribly bland and predictable. This could have come from any modern day thriller. This doesn't sound like a period set gangster film at all!


Gorast2012-12-21 00:09:58
War for the soul and welcome to los angeles seem to be the only really interesting tracks, everything else I could deal without. bleh. nothing to exciting

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-19 03:51:28
I'm looking forward to Steve's most epic work in Gangster Squad.

Conrad Fischer reply Replies: 2 || 2012-12-07 11:00:33
Does anyone know if Jablonsky is doing the film ''Lone Survivor''

IMDb has had him listed as doing it for a few months but I saw an interview with Director Peter Berg where said he was ''In Talks'' with the instrumental rock band Explosions in the Sky to do the music for the film.

I know IMDb is not the most reliable source so I thought I would ask here as the people who run this site often have insider info.


Edmund Meinerts2012-12-07 11:31:39
I hope the bit about the rock band isn't true. I'd rather new Jablonsky scores sound more like Your Highness/Steamboy/Transformers 1 than Battleship, thanks... ;)


Trent Easton Navarro2012-12-07 14:38:45
@Edmund - Explosions in the Sky wrote a pretty good score for Peter Berg's Friday Night Lights. Not all rock bands deliver Trent Reznor style droning ;)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 19 || 2012-11-20 20:18:57
This will be interesting... :)


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-11-20 21:09:08
The wait is goint to be longer... :(


Mr. Charles2012-11-20 23:07:10
YES!!!!! Oh man, I absolutely cannot wait for this!!

If it weren't for that jackhole lunatic who shot up the theatre in Aurora, this would have opened last month


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-21 20:37:49
I'll approach this one with extreme caution. I think Carter Burwell was a much better choice to score a period set gangster drama and it's a real shame he got replaced.


Hybrid Soldier2012-11-22 09:18:59
So you don't know what Burwell would have done, and you don't know what Jab has come up with, but it SURELY was better with Burwell ?

I'm impressed !


Ds2012-11-22 11:09:25
Just look at director Ruben Fleischer's other movies, i can't imagine this man doing an old-school movie. I'm pretty sure he wanted a modern approach to it.


Kusi2012-11-22 14:55:41
calm down Hybrid! Personally I'm loving Burwell's THE JACKAL - one of his best :) Maybe it had to be a good choice, but I'm waiting for Steve's music and let me surprise.


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-11-22 16:05:43
Well, i'm not a big fan of Burwell, but he is a good composer, but Steve Jablonsky is gonna a blow up with this score


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-22 17:43:26
@Hybrid

I'm a big fan of Carter Burwell and him scoring a period set crime flick really got me excited.

But Jablonsky is probably the only real talented composer of the current RC composers. So I'm curious what the result will be, but I'll always wonder what Burwell would have done


Mr. Charles2012-11-22 19:11:08
@Trent

Is Zimmer no longer working at RCP? Is he not talented? He may be the head of RCP, but it still counts. Also, John Powell and Harry Gregson-Williams aren't talented? (Not sure about HGW stick being here, but if he is then I count him as talented)


Ds2012-11-22 20:23:19
Lorne Balfe is also Łber great!


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-23 15:41:45
@Mr Charles

Hans himself sure is talented. It just seems he just doesn't use his talents anymore these days (in my opinion that is). He seems to rely more and more on additional composers. Even for the 5 minute Simpsons short he used half a dozen additional composers!

As for Powell and HG-W. Yes, they are indeed also really talented (probably the two most talented composers to have come out of Zimmer's stable), but they are old school (from the days when Zimmer's studio was still called Media Ventures).


Hybrid Soldier2012-11-23 17:10:47
Yeah the 70 minutes of suites written for TDKR really show his big laziness !


ToddL2012-11-23 17:42:45
Looks like the release date is 1/8...


Joshua 2012-11-24 05:27:32
Go to the films official website and you'll hear some music from Jablonskys score.


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-24 10:40:49
@Hybrid If those 70 minutes are uninspired and rehashes from the previous two installments, than yes.

And even you gotta admit that it's ridiculous that "The Longest Daycare" needed six or so composers.

I listened to Black Rain and White Fang the other day again, I really miss that Hans. Here's hoping that Hans shows up for the Man of Steel.


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-11-24 11:37:49
The Hans of Black Rain is so awesome :)


Hybrid Soldier2012-11-24 13:11:22
Where did you get that story about Simpsons ?

It's not even right, Jim Dooley scored it with HZ's themes.


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-24 13:39:05
At the end credits. First it says "music by Hans Zimmer" and after that there is the infamous "additional music by" which listed at least four composers


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-24 13:46:32
Seems like my memory is playing tricks on me. Watched it again on youtube and it indeed only lists Dooley as additional composer. Could have sworn when I saw it before Ice Age 4, there was a whole list of additional composers.

I stand corrected :)

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