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The score reflects the situation of DC movies very well. If Zimmer, like Snyder, continued, the result may not please everyone. A lot of people were unhappy with Snyder's work in the genre, just as many fans of soundtrack were with Zimmer's contributions that never followed the path taken by all the other composers who came before him.<br><br>The two left (regardless of the reason that led them to do this).<br><br>When Zimmer left everyone knew that XL would not hold the pressure or that the result would not be satisfactory for most.<br><br>When Elfman and Whedon were announced we all knew that they were hired to go against everything DC has done before to try to reach the first film of the franchise to reach 1 billion. Even if they were to follow Marvel's script and drop their originality.<br><br>But the hiring of Elfman and Whedon shows that the studio was long lost. Snyder succumbed to BvS. The only salvation for the DCEU are the solo films like Wonder Woman, the next Batman, Aquaman ...and freedom. Freedom for the directors, composers... Warner has always had this advantage over Marvel.@Edmund <br>Given the chance I think Junkie probably could deliver a pretty fun score that stayed thematically consistent with the current universe. It all depends on what the studio/director wants out of the music. The biggest disappointment to me is that this was a huge missed opportunity to do a heroic take on Zimmer’s Superman theme, something we haven’t heard since MoS. Hell, even the trailers did that.... -_-rumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it<br>======================================<br><br>Oh, absolutely! I'm sure we will soon find out that Balfe also scored Star Wars and Titanic. And Harry Potter. And Indiana Jones.Edmund, I somewhat agree - I've seen very little from Junkie to make me think this would have been a groundbreaking, wonderful score. However, maybe it's the Zimmer fan in me, but I would have loved to hear "stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place" in this score. So many scenes begged for just that. Compositionally it doesn't make for an interesting soundtrack or film score, I agree, but I would be willing to sacrifice that for thematic continuity.I certainly understand the criticisms leveled at Elfman's JL score, but I'm not at all convinced Junkie would have been a better option. I've never been too convinced by him anyway (Mad Max was a situation where his sound happened to be a good fit, but even then I think a better composer could have made much more out of the same ingredients). And since anything worthwhile in the previous two (and yeah, I'm aware I like MoS and BvS waaaaaaaay less than the average reader of this site) ended up being by Hans anyway, I really doubt Junkie flying solo would have been up to much. My guess is he would have pulled out stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place without adding much new material on his own, which would have satisfied the DC fans more than what Elfman did, sure, but would have been a lot less interesting as a score album. I mean, say what you want about the questionable thematic decisions Elfman made, the two gigantic full-length action cues are pretty solid in and of themselves. I'll take that over Junkie letting the drums pound for eleven minutes straight, any day of the week.
The studio is the music owner now.There you go. So we probably will never get to hear what Tom planned/did for this movie. I really believe that it would've been great compared to the generic score we got. <br>Only two tracks stood out to me and only one was an actual cue from the movie.Gabriel Yared leaked his Troy back in 2004 but I think he got in quite a lot of trouble for that. There's a reason he hasn't done too many high profile films since then, I think. A few rejecteds have slipped out over the years but it's pretty unheard of for the composer himself to be the one to leak it I think, that would be career suicide if they got caught. Usually they come out the same way complete scores do, some anonymous person working on the scoring team probably did it.and Zimmer criticized Elfman...back and forth, etc. So what? The movie is lame, the score is about as lame as Bat V Sup@JBSO99 you're right. It's so big and widely spread.<br><br>And you're right about me forgetting those score. I just picked these three because Elfman critized Zimmer
@Iamtommie  You forgot the theme by Elliot Goldenthal for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, for not to mention the theme from the 60's TV show and all the themes for all the different animated motion pictures such as The Dark Knight Returns, Mask of the Phantasm, or the videogames like the Arkham series.<br><br>Batman's musical legacy is very big so him saying there is only one theme and his the one he created is really disrespectful to a big amount of composers.Yeah, that's what I thought you meant. And that's what Elfman should have done if he wanted to use the old themes.I think what Elfman said is not true.<br>Batman has different themes for different movies because every Batman is different.<br><br>Michael Keaton as Batman: Elfman's Theme<br>Christian Bale as Batman: Hans' Theme<br>Ben Affleck as Batman: Hans & Junkie's Theme.<br>Of course much more but the most important.<br><br>Each one if dies Batman's have a different story and a different universe. I think that for each universe a new theme is the best thing you can do. With a different theme you can relate more to this Batman than a previous one.<br><br>By the way, I think TDK, MoS & WW are 3 of the top 10 themes by Zimmer. I think what Elfman did the WW theme is an abomination. He removed the key instrument in the theme because he thought it was childisch.<br><br>I think the Justce League score is way worse than previous DCEU or Batman movies. I hope that Lorne of Junkie will do future DCUE movies instead of Elfman.<br><br>(Seeing Justice League thursday. I am curious if it is really that bad as everyine says)GITS was unreleased, JXL's JL score was completely rejected. The real qustion is how many rejected scores have leaked in the history of modern film scoring?Ghost in a thing that doesn't have life but does
Which score would that be?Seeing as how Lorne Balfe “leaked” his own score, I wonder if Tom could easily do the same?Haha - honestly though, before I realized this I felt Jablonsky didn't really bind the score together that well with themes and motifs. This is a pretty cool connection and I'm glad he made it.Almost like this was a film score or something! ;)I don't suppose you have credits for this score, Hybrid?
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Gangster Squad
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  1. His Name Is Mickey Cohen (2:28)
  2. Welcome To Los Angeles (3:13)
  3. He Can't Have You (1:40)
  4. War For The Soul Of LA (2:49)
  5. There Goes Our Ride (1:15)
  6. You Can't Shoot Me (3:52)
  7. Always Knew I'd Die In Burbank (2:29)
  8. You're Talking To God (0:51)
  9. The Bug (2:18)
  10. Hot Potato With A Grenade (3:19)
  11. You Know The Drill (1:07)
  12. I Was Just Hopin' To Take You To Bed (1:31)
  13. Kill 'Em All (1:59)
  14. Chinatown (4:29)
  15. Keeler (2:18)
  16. Connie Lives (1:54)
  17. Let's Finish It (2:26)
  18. Union Station (1:35)
  19. Light 'Em Up (7:28)
  20. The City Of Angels (4:04)
  21. Gangster Squad (2:58)
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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-01-12 09:55:07
There's a lot of Desperate Housewives, Texas Chainsaw and... Antz in it !


Mr. Charles2013-01-13 00:02:45
I can also hear "Whitwicky" from Transformers. But I liked the score in the film, I made it my goal to pay attention to it


Johnson2013-01-13 04:24:50
Actually, if you pay close attention, Jablonsky also seems to be channeling Thomas Newman...Big Time...

This reminds me of Road to Perdition...


Evenstar2013-01-13 09:24:42
Still an amazing score.


Ds2013-01-13 12:39:31
What track is playing just after the shooting in the street, when Ryan Gosling walks in the direction of Mickey Cohen in slow motion?


Ds2013-01-13 15:10:21
(i found it, it's You Can't Shoot Me)


Edmund Meinerts2013-02-15 22:42:31
I was wondering how the heck a score like this could sound like Antz, but it's definitely there in "Welcome to Los Angeles" and "Hot Potato with a Grenade". Bum-badum-bum bum-badum-bum etc...cool! The Thomas Newman/Road to Perdition twist is a neat touch, though considering Jablonsky hasn't exactly been adverse to throwing bits of Newman into his scores here and there in the past, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. You can definitely trace the influences but I think it's cool that it goes beyond just being a stock modern thriller score. Not a patch on Steamboy, Your Highness or the original Transformers (which is the big Jablonsky triumvirate of awesomeness for me), but it goes a long way towards letting me forgive him for Battleship.

Mr. Fate reply Replies: 6 || 2013-01-14 04:19:43
So...let me get this straight. From what I'm reading here, it seems like this score is pretty awesome what with traces of these past scores being heard in it: Battleship, Sherlock Holmes, Desperate Housewives, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Antz, Road to Perdition, Inception, Transformers and The Untouchables.

I don't think I've ever seen a single score compared to that many other scores. Is that good? Is it bad? I have no idea, but will this list grow longer?


f..k y..o2013-01-14 07:09:14
Shut Up!


Ray2013-01-14 08:45:04
Mr. Fate, I would necessarily say its bad, but it's definitely not Jablonsky's best work either. Though, I do have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it, and it absolutely has similarities to all the aforementioned scores.

Oh, and this so called "f..k y..o"... Really? I think you added an extra dot to the word you.


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2013-01-14 11:28:19
I don't think is a bad score, is a very entertaing score, reminiescenes? in every work of RC.


f..k y..o2013-01-14 16:03:18
my name! frank yam...o


ToddL2013-01-19 03:50:10
I really like the score -- going to see the movie this weekend. I hear a lot of older H-GW influences in the slow pieces. I listened to Replacement Killers, Light It Up and Liar earlier....wonderful. Just a mention....Not to take anything away from Jablonsky. He is one of my favs -- fantastic composer who can write an unforgettable theme.


ToddL2013-01-19 03:50:10
I really like the score -- going to see the movie this weekend. I hear a lot of older H-GW influences in the slow pieces. I listened to Replacement Killers, Light It Up and Liar earlier....wonderful. Just a mention....Not to take anything away from Jablonsky. He is one of my favs -- fantastic composer who can write an unforgettable theme.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 2 || 2013-01-13 20:58:04
I've been listening to this soundtrack completely earlier today. I was completely speechless listening to Steve's composed work. Even for a gangster picture, it reminds me of a combination of the Transformers trilogy, Inception, with a touch of The Untouchables. Just like the Battleship complete film score and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen complete score, the Gangster Squad film score is truly one Jablonsky's best scores ever made.

Overall: 4.5 out of 5


Edmund Meinerts2013-01-13 22:25:58
The fact that you picked Revenge of the Fallen and Battleship as Jablonsky's two best doesn't exactly give me hope for this. You really want to hear Steve at his best, go listen to Steamboy (!!!!!!) and Your Highness, or the original Transformers, or his additional music for Tears of the Sun and Pearl Harbor. Hell, even Dark of the Moon was better than Revenge of the Fallen (and before you ask, yes, I've heard them all as completes).


T-Mann0362013-01-13 22:42:29
I can't object your comment, Edmund.

abc reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-12 09:43:16
Great Score!!! I love it

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-09 17:26:51
I'm just back from the movie, it was very cool. Jablonsky's work was also very cool. Pretty dark, it has the funny side of Sherlock Holmes and the loudness of Battleship (but without its noisy electronics :) )

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-09 04:53:38
5/5 Out in the new year we have the hard hitting score from Steve Jablonsky and for Varese Sarabande... Well done!
-Jeremy [Retro-Z]

Miles reply Replies: 6 || 2013-01-07 18:17:15
It sounds OK to me for the most part. Nice jazzy rhythm on "Welcome To Los Angeles," "War For The Soul," "Hot Potato with a Grenade," and "Gangster Squad" (which also has a very noirish oboe accompaniment). "He Can't Have You," "I Was Just Hopin' To Take You To Bed," and "Union Station" are nice breaks in the action for piano, and there's some nice string work (seems to be Jablonsky's strength). However, several tracks (notably "You Can't Shoot Me," "You're Talking To God," "Kill 'Em All," and "The City Of Angels") seem to have more of the "Zimmeresque" unsubtle contemporary style than seems appropriate. I'll have to wait for the full soundtrack before I pass judgment, but my impression is that it's a significant step up from the droning, dissonant mess that was Battleship, but a lighter touch would have been better in some spots.


Mr. Charles2013-01-07 21:05:50
Is this "droning, dissonant mess that was Battleship" the OST or sessions? I still haven't had a chance to listen to the sessions yet.

And does anyone know when this is out? Hopefully tomorrow in the US. cause that's usually when a film's score is released - the Tuesday before the film opens, which is Friday


Anonymous2013-01-07 21:21:45
Charles, the VS website will have all the details.


ToddL2013-01-07 22:00:59
On a different, yet somewhat related note, did anyone else read that Cutting Edge Group is going to purchase Varese Sarabande and increase soundtrack product by a good measure?


Mr. Charles2013-01-07 22:08:02
@Anonymous,

I was having a brain fart. I normally would have thought of that. Thanks.

@ToddL,

No, I didn't hear about that!! That's fantastic news!!


Macejko2013-01-07 22:25:53
This might be a good time to ask (and I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, and it probably is) - who is in charge of deciding whether a film score gets a release? Is it a movie studio, a record label, or a composer?


Ds2013-01-09 00:46:04
It's on iTunes US!

Frau Blucher reply Replies: 1 || 2013-01-06 02:50:37
Hybrid, I have 2 questions for you:

1.) When is this score being released, and when can we hear some god samples?

2.) Is the instrumental music heard in the beginning of the Pain & Gain trailer part of the score?

Thanks very much!


Mike2013-01-06 03:37:20
I can answer one thing. The release date is the 8th, so three more days (click "See Details").

jj reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-05 10:52:17
Do yall no when clips are going to come out on YouTube?

Andy reply Replies: 6 || 2012-12-17 20:05:39
Sampler^^
colosseum.de/product_info.php/info/p2608_Gangster-Squad--Ste ve-Jablonsky-.html


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-12-17 21:01:13
Sounds very good


Evenstar2012-12-17 21:05:25
sounds cool


Yruama2012-12-17 21:13:26
It sounds good but a memorable theme is really missing as Jablonsky knows how to make them.

Extracts remind me moreover a lot Battleship crossed by moment with Desperate Housewives.



MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-12-17 21:25:16
Battleship cross with Desperate Housewives? xD, for me sounds like Jerry Goldsmith crossed Hans Zimmer xD


Trent Easton Navarro2012-12-18 16:37:02
I'll wait till I've heard the whole score before I give my final judgement, but boy does this sound horribly bland and predictable. This could have come from any modern day thriller. This doesn't sound like a period set gangster film at all!


Gorast2012-12-21 00:09:58
War for the soul and welcome to los angeles seem to be the only really interesting tracks, everything else I could deal without. bleh. nothing to exciting

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-19 03:51:28
I'm looking forward to Steve's most epic work in Gangster Squad.

Conrad Fischer reply Replies: 2 || 2012-12-07 11:00:33
Does anyone know if Jablonsky is doing the film ''Lone Survivor''

IMDb has had him listed as doing it for a few months but I saw an interview with Director Peter Berg where said he was ''In Talks'' with the instrumental rock band Explosions in the Sky to do the music for the film.

I know IMDb is not the most reliable source so I thought I would ask here as the people who run this site often have insider info.


Edmund Meinerts2012-12-07 11:31:39
I hope the bit about the rock band isn't true. I'd rather new Jablonsky scores sound more like Your Highness/Steamboy/Transformers 1 than Battleship, thanks... ;)


Trent Easton Navarro2012-12-07 14:38:45
@Edmund - Explosions in the Sky wrote a pretty good score for Peter Berg's Friday Night Lights. Not all rock bands deliver Trent Reznor style droning ;)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 19 || 2012-11-20 20:18:57
This will be interesting... :)


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-11-20 21:09:08
The wait is goint to be longer... :(


Mr. Charles2012-11-20 23:07:10
YES!!!!! Oh man, I absolutely cannot wait for this!!

If it weren't for that jackhole lunatic who shot up the theatre in Aurora, this would have opened last month


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-21 20:37:49
I'll approach this one with extreme caution. I think Carter Burwell was a much better choice to score a period set gangster drama and it's a real shame he got replaced.


Hybrid Soldier2012-11-22 09:18:59
So you don't know what Burwell would have done, and you don't know what Jab has come up with, but it SURELY was better with Burwell ?

I'm impressed !


Ds2012-11-22 11:09:25
Just look at director Ruben Fleischer's other movies, i can't imagine this man doing an old-school movie. I'm pretty sure he wanted a modern approach to it.


Kusi2012-11-22 14:55:41
calm down Hybrid! Personally I'm loving Burwell's THE JACKAL - one of his best :) Maybe it had to be a good choice, but I'm waiting for Steve's music and let me surprise.


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-11-22 16:05:43
Well, i'm not a big fan of Burwell, but he is a good composer, but Steve Jablonsky is gonna a blow up with this score


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-22 17:43:26
@Hybrid

I'm a big fan of Carter Burwell and him scoring a period set crime flick really got me excited.

But Jablonsky is probably the only real talented composer of the current RC composers. So I'm curious what the result will be, but I'll always wonder what Burwell would have done


Mr. Charles2012-11-22 19:11:08
@Trent

Is Zimmer no longer working at RCP? Is he not talented? He may be the head of RCP, but it still counts. Also, John Powell and Harry Gregson-Williams aren't talented? (Not sure about HGW stick being here, but if he is then I count him as talented)


Ds2012-11-22 20:23:19
Lorne Balfe is also über great!


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-23 15:41:45
@Mr Charles

Hans himself sure is talented. It just seems he just doesn't use his talents anymore these days (in my opinion that is). He seems to rely more and more on additional composers. Even for the 5 minute Simpsons short he used half a dozen additional composers!

As for Powell and HG-W. Yes, they are indeed also really talented (probably the two most talented composers to have come out of Zimmer's stable), but they are old school (from the days when Zimmer's studio was still called Media Ventures).


Hybrid Soldier2012-11-23 17:10:47
Yeah the 70 minutes of suites written for TDKR really show his big laziness !


ToddL2012-11-23 17:42:45
Looks like the release date is 1/8...


Joshua 2012-11-24 05:27:32
Go to the films official website and you'll hear some music from Jablonskys score.


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-24 10:40:49
@Hybrid If those 70 minutes are uninspired and rehashes from the previous two installments, than yes.

And even you gotta admit that it's ridiculous that "The Longest Daycare" needed six or so composers.

I listened to Black Rain and White Fang the other day again, I really miss that Hans. Here's hoping that Hans shows up for the Man of Steel.


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-11-24 11:37:49
The Hans of Black Rain is so awesome :)


Hybrid Soldier2012-11-24 13:11:22
Where did you get that story about Simpsons ?

It's not even right, Jim Dooley scored it with HZ's themes.


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-24 13:39:05
At the end credits. First it says "music by Hans Zimmer" and after that there is the infamous "additional music by" which listed at least four composers


Trent Easton Navarro2012-11-24 13:46:32
Seems like my memory is playing tricks on me. Watched it again on youtube and it indeed only lists Dooley as additional composer. Could have sworn when I saw it before Ice Age 4, there was a whole list of additional composers.

I stand corrected :)

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