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Why was there the change of composers?...wouldn't being really busy be an argument *for* him possibly being replaced? When you're signed on to 10 movies and release schedules are being constantly pushed around because nobody has a clue when theaters are going to open again, you shouldn't be surprised if eventually you might run into some conflicts.Jackman is not replacing Balfe! <br>Balfe is the most busiest composer at the moment so he isn’t going to get replaced last minute!!!!!Thank you for your replies. On IMDB she is listed.Alright, after re-listening to the score, I've made a few educated guesses of what the additional composers did, based on what we know about the score and their previous work. Note that none of this is confirmed by Hybrid, just my opinion.<br><br>Lorne Balfe: Seems to practically be a co-composer here. I hear a lot of him in this score. It seems he did Invasion (as he's known for contributing trailer music to films he works on) seemingly the suites "Brooding", "Deciphering the Signal", "Battle", and the one we know he cowrote, "Journey Suite". Based on this here's my guess as to what he contributed. <br><br>Soccent Attack - Sounds like his style, probably him arranging AllSpark and Decepticon material. <br><br>Keller's Briefing - Arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal"<br><br>Deciphering the Signal - Obviously another arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal" with Batman Begins-like action at the end.<br><br>Sam's Pink Bike Ride (Part 2) - Sounds like an arrangement of "Brooding" material. <br><br>(Possibly?) Are You LadiesMan217? - Some arrangement of "Brooding" and "Journey Suite" material, although hard to say whether the theme at 1:10 is Steve's or Lorne's. Could be Steve arranging Lorne material, as it sounds more Jablonsky-esque to me. <br><br>Autobots to the Rescue - Could be Steve imitating Batman Begins style, but sounds far too Lorne for me to not consider it a co-written track. <br><br>Sector 7 Chase - Part 1 sounds more Jablonsky than Lorne, but there's no question to me that part 2 has a lot of Balfe in there. <br><br>Where Is My Car? - Batman Begins-like again, probably Lorne solo, or Lorne and Steve<br><br>Decepticons Mobilize (Part 2) - Arrangement of "Brooding"<br><br>Freeway Fight - Battle version of Decepticon theme from "Brooding"<br><br>Stumble Bumble (Part 1) & (Part 2 Alternate) - Arrangement of "Journey Suite", second part not used in the film sounds like Steve & Lorne Combo to me. Film version of part 2 sounds pure Steve to me. <br><br>You're A Soldier Now (Parts 1 & 3) - Lorne being heavily involved in the final battle is known, and Parts 1 and 3 have arrangements of Lorne material. I'm also fairly certain that Lorne wrote the Optimus vs Megatron theme from Part 3 and "Optimus vs Megatron".<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - Finale of theme introduced in "You're A Soldier Now (Part 3)" as well as the "Journey / AllSpark" theme which could be Lorne's or Steve's. <br><br>Trevor Morris: I can infer from his work on Pirates 2, The Island, and the one track we know he worked on. <br><br>Soldiers Arrive - Not sure why, but I've always assumed this military theme was Morris'.<br><br>Arctic 1897 - Dark theme that reminds me a lot of his work from Pirates 2. <br><br>Scorponok - Known fact that he co-wrote this. <br><br>Hoover Dam - Arrangement of military theme<br><br>Transforming -  Same theme from Arctic 1897<br><br>Sam on the Roof (Part 2) - Arrangement of theme from Scorponok, though could be Steve or Lorne arranging it.<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - A slight hint to the Military theme when they begin attacking Blackout, and Scorponok theme reprisal, once again could be Steve or Lorne arranging these themes. <br><br>Creeper Suite / A Call to Arms (Unused) - Original music for Optimus' Epilogue, contains arrangement of military theme. <br><br>Jay Flood: Can be inferred from his work on Transformers: The Game, his overall more orchestral writing, and his contributions to Nightmare on Elm Street, Sims 3, and Desperate Housewives. <br><br>Camaro on the Run - Definitely has a TF: The Game sound to it overall. As well as a bit of Thomas Newman-esque music. <br><br>Witwicky (Parts 1-3) - Definitely some of his style here along with Steve's overall Desperate Housewives-esque music. <br><br>Decepticons 2 Suite / Frenzy - The suspenseful strings make me think of Flood's Nightmare on Elm Street work, and the brass writing seems more characteristic of him than Jablonsky to me, though it was still probably a co-written suite. <br><br>Tense Action Suite - Once again reminds me of Flood's Nightmare suspenseful string writing, probably at least co-composed with Jablonsky. <br><br>Clay Duncan - I can guess somewhat based on his contributions to "The Island" but otherwise I don't know much about him so I'm not sure about any of the inferences I'm about the make. <br><br>Angry Camaro - This sort of drone music sounds like it could be him as his contributions were very electronic in The Island.<br><br>Bumblebee vs Barricade - Strange electronics and sounds plus more minimalist writing make me think Duncan. <br><br>Tow Truck Charge - Definitely has The Island's sound. Could be Trevor Morris too. <br><br>TJ Lindgreen: I know so little about his style except he works with Elfman and did additional music for TF: The Game so not much I can say for what he did. <br><br>Belly Shot(?) - The ethereal choir style sounds somewhat like TF: The Game's score and Elfman's choir. <br><br>Not to Hear That(?) - Maybe he composed this motif for Mikaela that also appeared in "Belly Shot". <br><br>Surreal Mikaela(?) - Once again I'm hoping the specific choir sound is part of his style. <br><br>Anything I didn't mention is a track I'm assuming is all Jablonsky. Please note that I'm not trying to take away from Steve's work on this score, and that for most of these track I'm assuming Steve had some involvement in as well, I'm just speculating for fun because I've always wanted to know who did what on this score.
LP sadly, but it's also on Spotify.Technical reasons ! lol ;)<br><br>But she was there.Most welcome news. Should be a nice replacement for the Fantastic Beasts score that will have to have been pushed off. I imagine his work on Jungle Cruise will be great as well. 2021 is looking pretty exciting for score releases!She definitely performed on the score, I don't know why she is uncredited...The poster shows Lorne Balfe as the composer.<br><br>But then it also did have Desplat!
So no solo cello by Tina Guo? Is it digital then or is it no cello?CD or LP release?Why is Lorne Balfe not nominated for a Grammy for Ad Astra ?To my understanding, James never worked for Hans or Remote Control. They’re simply friends and have collaborated on a few projects. Powell (and Gregson-Williams) used to work at Remote Control before moving on to his own studio/endeavors. <br><br>BUT, I am equally as excited for James to return to Disney Animation. Very excited for this and Jungle Cruise.I guess James Newton Howard doesn't count as a Remote Control composer anymore (and yet John Powell does? I don't get it), but anyway, he's scoring Disney Animation Studios' Raya and the Last Dragon. After his epic trilogy of Dinosaur, Atlantis, and Treasure Planet, I welcome his return to the studio!
Some original cue titles with slates from a music mixing CD-R:<br>1M13 Transactions<br><br>2M16 Jake Gets Stoned<br>2M20A Alley<br>2M21 Rapists Castration<br><br>3M24 My Old Division<br>3M27 Go Fetch Dog<br>3M30 The Freeway<br>3M32 Alonzo Steals Money<br>3M33 Into The Jungle<br><br>4M41 Safety Is First / Busting Into Rogers<br><br>5M46 Helicopter<br>5M48 Sunset / Wet Streets<br>5M51 Jake Gets Beaten<br>5M52 Smiley Calls His Cousin<br><br>6M57 On The Roof<br>6M58 Jake Lands On Car<br><br>7M61 Alonzo Dies<br>7M63 Sun ShotMovie credits:<br><br>Music by Hans Zimmer & David Fleming<br><br>Music Supervisor: Joe Rudge<br><br>Score Produced by Hans Zimmer<br>Supervising Music Editor: Ryan Rubin<br>Music Editor: Nate Underkuffler<br>Music Production Services: Steven Kofsky<br>Additional Music by Ben Powell<br>Featured Guitar Soloist: Derek Trucks<br>Score Mixed by Seth Waldmann<br>Score Mix Assistant: Aldo Arechar<br>Technical Score Engineer: Chuck Choi<br>Technical Assistants: James Grimwade, Aldo Arechar, Steven Doar & Fabio Marks<br>Synth Programming: Hans Zimmer<br>Digital Instrument Design: Mark Wherry<br>Digital Instrument Preparation: Taurees Habib, Raul Vega, David Naroth & Paul Salerno<br>Studio Manager for Remote Control Productions: Shalini Singh<br>Assistant to Hans Zimmer: Cynthia Park<br>Score Mixed at Remote Control Productions, Santa Monica CA<br>Music Clearances: Jessica Dolingerthats trueCan't think of a more meaningless and laughable award than the Oscar.an oscar for this one? nahh...<br>maybe he gets a nomination for dune or bond
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - At World's End (Expanded Score)
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  1. Opening - Gallows (1:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski (Lyrics: Ted Elliott, Terry Rossio)
  2. Arrive In Singapore (2:17)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Mission Impossible (Part 1) (0:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  4. Mission Impossible (Part 2) (1:00)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  5. Entering The Bath House (2:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Geoff Zanelli (Klaus Badelt)
  6. Steam Room (0:41)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  7. Sao Feng Negotiation (5:08)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Geoff Zanelli, Lorne Balfe
  8. Battle With The Brits (2:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  9. Battle Continues - Will Makes Deal (1:34)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  10. Crew Embarks (1:46)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman, Atli Örvarsson
  11. Trying To Get Lost (5:05)
    Hans Zimmer
  12. Davy's Tear (3:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  13. Over The Edge (2:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Henry Jackman
  14. Multiple Jacks (7:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson
  15. Crew Arrives (Part 1) - Crabs (0:21)
    Atli Örvarsson
  16. Crew Arrives (Part 2) - Davy Jones Locker (1:18)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson
  17. Rescue Jack (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson
  18. Who's Captain? - Below Deck (2:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  19. I See Dead People In Boats (4:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  20. Dreadlock Jack (1:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson, Henry Jackman
  21. The Green Flash (3:50)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  22. Pull Your Guns (0:45)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  23. Jiggy Kraken (3:58)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Geoff Zanelli (Blake Neely)
  24. Jack & Beckett (8:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Lorne Balfe
  25. Elizabeth Is Calypso (2:00)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  26. Sao Feng's Death (1:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Geoff Zanelli, Lorne Balfe
  27. Chinese Captured By Brits (0:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  28. Bootstraps - Elizabeth Locker (2:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  29. Jack Catches Will (Part 1) (1:00)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  30. Escape - Norrington Dies (4:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson (Blake Neely)
  31. Mrs. Fish (1:18)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  32. Will & Beckett (1:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  33. Shipwreck Cove (0:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Geoff Zanelli
  34. Brethren Court Begins (1:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Lorne Balfe
  35. Barbossa Lobbies (1:04)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  36. Davy Jones Visits Tia Dalma (3:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Lorne Balfe
  37. Jack Lobbies (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson
  38. Teague & The Code (1:36)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Atli Örvarsson
  39. Elizabeth Declares War - How's Mum? (1:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  40. Parlay (2:13)
    Hans Zimmer
  41. Exchange Jack For Will (2:08)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  42. Multiple Jacks In Brig (Part 1) (0:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson
  43. Multiple Jacks In Brig (Part 2) (0:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson
  44. Calypso On Deck (0:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli (Klaus Badelt)
  45. Releasing Calypso (4:41)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  46. Hoist The Colours Declaration (2:08)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Nick Glennie-Smith
  47. Maelstrom (Part 1A) (5:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Geoff Zanelli, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  48. Maelstrom (Part 1B) (1:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  49. Maelstrom (Part 2) (1:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  50. The Wedding (3:11)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Henry Jackman (Klaus Badelt)
  51. Getting The Chest (5:04)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  52. Davy's Death (2:50)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Henry Jackman (Klaus Badelt)
  53. Liftoff (2:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  54. Beckett's Death (5:05)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson (Klaus Badelt)
  55. Celebration (1:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  56. Will & Bootstrap (2:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  57. Tender Times (2:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  58. Black Pearl Is Missing (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  59. Jack Sets Sail (1:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  60. End Titles (1:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  61. End Credits (Green Flash) (2:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  62. End Credits (Hoist The Colours) (5:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Nick Glennie-Smith
  63. Waiting For Will (0:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  64. New Love Suite (11:45)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  65. Beckett Theme (Original Demo) (6:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  66. The Pirate Lord Of Singapore (Album Suite) (5:58)
  67. Lord Cutler Beckett (Album Suite) (8:48)
  68. Marry Me (Album Suite) (11:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  69. Just Good Business (Album Suite) (5:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  70. Hoist The Colours Suite (Album Suite) (5:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Nick Glennie-Smith
  71. Jack & Beckett (Alternate) (6:18)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Lorne Balfe
  72. Sao Feng's Death (Alternate) (1:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Geoff Zanelli, Lorne Balfe
  73. Shipwreck Cove (Alternate I) (0:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Geoff Zanelli
  74. Shipwreck Cove (Alternate II) (0:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Geoff Zanelli
  75. Parlay (Alternate) (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer
  76. Hoist The Colours Declaration (Alternate) (2:08)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Nick Glennie-Smith
  77. Maelstrom (Part 1B) (Alternate) (1:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  78. The Wedding (Alternate) (3:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Henry Jackman (Klaus Badelt)
  79. Getting The Chest (Alternate) (5:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  80. Beckett's Death (Alternate) (5:04)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson (Klaus Badelt)
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Mike reply Replies: 5 || 2013-05-28 07:58:46
Oh man, "Trying to Get Lost" just blows me away whenever I hear it. Zimmer truly outdid himself with that cue! One of the best he's done.


Lucius2013-05-28 08:16:36
It also proves to me that while there will always be people who say Zimmer is "lazy" for having so many composers work on his scores, or that he's "lost it", he truly hasn't and still knows how to make an amazing piece of music. If Hybrid is correct, after all, then "Trying to Get Lose" (arguably one of the best cues of the film) is Hans alone, no additional arrangers or anything. :)

And I agree, it's an astounding piece.


Lucius2013-05-28 08:17:19
Aghhh, Lost*


James2013-05-28 09:03:34
I could go on and on about the things I love about this score. The love theme, the Beckett theme, the Calypso theme, the Hoist the Colors theme, the way they're all expertly mixed together in the Maelstrom scenes, the lack of "use old cues again and again"... I sound like almost everyone else on this page, but this is one of Zimmer/RCP's best if you ask me.


Mike2013-05-28 09:08:09
Eh, who cares if we sound like everyone else: it's one of RCP's finest for sure! I like scores that feel like a lot of effort was put into them, which is why POTC3 and The Last Samurai are among my favorites. I don't even listen to them much compared to others, but you can just tell that those who worked on them really wanted to make a good score.


score_trader2013-06-02 23:00:39
I find that The Heart of Davy Jones' cues are some of the best as well.

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2013-06-02 03:33:28
Why are "Just Good Business" and Lorne's Beckett theme listed separately? It seems like Just Good Business is just a shortened version of Lorne's suite.


Hybrid Soldier2013-06-02 09:43:42
It is, but it's orchestrated & recorded, while Lorne's is synth.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 14 || 2013-05-13 11:32:53
God DAMN Maelstrom Pt. 1 is an awesome action cue. I really think Zimmer and co managed to reach an almost John Williams-like level of thematic complexity with this score, and it's the unsurpassed jewel in RCP's crown for me. :D


cheesy2013-05-13 13:34:11
I may get a lot of heat for this but I guess I've personally never really seen what everyone else sees in this score. It's great music, but RCP has churned out far more memorable. Aside from the love theme and Calypso theme, not a lot in AWE really resonates with me as much as others. Especially not the action music.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-13 13:53:49
Despite some big stuff in this one, I still consider POTC 2 to be superior... :)


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-13 14:07:46
Not even Beckett's stuff, Cheesy? Or the new arrangements of Davy Jones' theme? Or Hoist the Colors?


Anonymous2013-05-13 14:12:24
I think this is the best action stuff (together with King Arthur) that RCP has ever written. Esp the theme blending of all previous scores is great. Great stuff.

But it is all a matter of taste. I don't inception very memorable. yet everyone is drooling over that score.


Bioscope2013-05-13 14:43:34
This score was written as if it was RCP's last night on Earth, and that's how all RCP commisioned scores should be written if you want the quality material that this scored offered.


Richard2013-05-13 22:04:34
Gotta agree with Hybrid Soldier. Sure, this film had some fantastic score, and the maelstrom score was probably in the top 5 action movie scores of all time.. but Dead Man's Chest was just more powerful.

Another thing about the Maelstrom score - In my mind, score-wise, you have the first 2 POTC movies, then everything in At World's End except for the Maelstrom as 3 wholes. Then, you have the Maelstrom.. which blends ALL of those scores together ( Literally, only a few themes didn't make it in there. The only one I can think of is The Kraken's theme and a few minor cues from the other movies - And it's good they didn't reuse the Kraken's theme, it fit the Kraken and the Kraken only. ) It was literally a maelstrom of music.

I don't think Inception or King Arthur's scores come even close to this. It's not even a comparison for me.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-13 22:14:29
About Kraken's theme, with Disney's madness, I'm surprised we didn't hear it in POTC 4 haha...


Mike2013-05-13 22:42:22
"I'm surprised we didn't hear it in POTC 4..." XD My thought exactly.

Not that I'm trying to argue - I just feel like giving my thought on #2 vs. #3. To me, Dead Man's Chest felt like POTC 1 with the Jack/Davy Jones/Kraken themes attached. A good score, no doubt, but it didn't feel much different than the first movie.

For example, in the wedding/Beckett scene, the first piece of music we heard was the exact same piece as is found in the album track "To the Pirates Cave!" (from POTC1). Then, aside from Beckett's theme being played over it, the music when he appears was used exactly like that in POTC1 as well.

As another example, there's the music when Will is asking people about Jack. That music was used pretty much verbatim in POTC1 around the scene when Jack and Will commandeer the ship.

And as a final example, parts of the Jack/Will/Norrington sword-fight were exactly the same as Will and Jack's fight in the first movie.

With POTC3, on the other hand, there were a ton of new themes and repetition of old material only happened occasionally.

Either way...I'm sure we can all agree that they're both good scores.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-13 22:44:08
Yeah of course I've listened this saga (yeah... 4 included) countless times ! It's just one veeeeeeeeery long score... :)


Ds2013-05-13 23:55:02
"This score was written as if it was RCP's last night on Earth"

Thanks Bioscope for this wonderful quote. It reflects exactly how magic this score actually is. This may be a sequel, this is still one of the most original and fresh score i've ever heard. I hope Hans is proud of this one, because this is pure art.

The movie's last hour is a dream for the ears: Parlay, Calypso's transformation, Hoist the Colours, the Maelstrom, Beckett's epic death and then the wonderful, unforgettable love theme. 6 years later it still gives me goosebump as if it was the first time. Thank you Hans.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-13 23:59:45
Last night on Earth I'm not sure. It's just... you basically have a wonderful team on it ! Lorne, Jackman, Atli, NGS, MagicBox and of course Geoff with HZ. Can't beat that, it tops the POTC 1 or The Rock team... :)


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-14 01:49:25
Nice one, Hybrid. I've said it before and I'll say it again: At World's End is the ultimate example of an amazing team coming together in exactly the right way.

Maybe one of the reasons why Angels and Demons is my favorite Zimmer score of the last few years is because it's largely the same team: Hans, Atli, Geoff, Lorne and NGS.


Mike2013-05-14 02:01:46
Angels & Demons is, indeed, a good score.


Anonymous2013-05-28 08:41:31
I just wish this could've been the last POTC score! I've never heard an equal trilogy-capper of a score besides maybe John Williams' score to Revenge of the Sith. :)

Anonymous reply Replies: 15 || 2013-05-25 21:12:31
The Marry Me suite is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. :)


Mike2013-05-25 21:19:22
Amen to that! "Marry Me", "Time", and "A Dark Knight" would definitely have to go on my list of "Hans Zimmer's most amazing themes ever".


Anonymous2013-05-25 21:24:28
Don't forget Chevaliers De Sangreal, Now We Are Free, and The Heart of Davy Jones! ;)


Mike2013-05-25 21:27:12
Or "Tennessee" from Pearl Harbor.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-25 21:42:45
Marry Me is my favorite Zimmer theme and cue as well. Although all of the suggestions below are also great pieces. I'll throw in the main theme from Crimson Tide as well as practically the proto power anthem. Such an influential score.


Ds2013-05-25 21:48:52
You guys are right. These are all AMAZING themes. Moving and addictive!

I'd add "Hummel Gets The Rockets" from The Rock and "All Of Them" from King Arthur.


Mike2013-05-25 21:58:50
A favorite of mine that hardly anyone mentions is The Burning Bush from The Prince of Egypt. It really conveys the presence of God.


James2013-05-25 22:02:17
And 9:11-14:12 in "Rocket Away" from the Rock! :D


Anonymous2013-05-25 22:06:23
Hybrid Soldier, since you're virtually famous, what Zimmer work is your favorite? :P


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-25 22:47:25
Depends on the mood... ;)


Prott2013-05-26 00:07:06
+1
"Marry Me" (and every reprise/variation of the Love Theme from AwE) is a wonderful piece of music. :)

... and don't forget "Show Me Your Firetruck" or "Journey To The Line". ;)


MGDrone2013-05-26 04:06:09
I'll always get chills when I listen to The Burning Heart from Hannibal. Such an under-appreciated cue in HZ's repertoire. Or To Every Captive Soul. I enjoy that love theme just a tad bit more than Marry Me. That in no way belittles Marry Me for me, it's one of HZ's best themes ever. Other ignored cues, I believe, are First Ideas from Frost/Nixon, The Banker's Waltz from Matchstick Men (and the whole score for that matter), and really the whole score to Two Deaths (granted, that one's hard to find).


Richard2013-05-26 05:44:59
Aye, many great masterpieces! Don't forget the instrumental Lion King score and the bittersweet anthem for Crimson Tide!


Christ2013-05-26 09:07:39
Air and Science and Religion from Angels and Demons, Heart of Davy Jones.


Cabox2013-05-26 17:25:06
Sure, but all of those were years ago, why doesn't Hans write something like that anymore :/ maybe for Winter's Tale


Mike2013-05-27 00:16:59
Actually, I didn't include this one above because I thought we were referring to "beautiful" music rather than "epic" music, but now that the scope isn't so limited, I would definitely include Wayne Manor in this list. That's a modern one, Cabox.

Mike reply Replies: 21 || 2013-03-18 05:02:51
Holy crud. This score (and it's not even complete) borders on 4 hours. That is impressive.


Mike2013-03-18 05:09:50
EDIT: Looked like it said 2:33'30, not 2:23'30. Still, I stand by what I said.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-18 11:18:02
Of which the actually newly composed material comprises about 10 minutes...There's nothing impressive about a score that's 90% tracked-in cues from the previous entries in the franchise.


Ds2013-03-18 11:32:23
WTF Edmund, did you actually read what you just posted???


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-18 16:39:24
And have you heard the score? The vast majority of it is barely rearranged material from Pirates 1-3. They use Davy Jones and Cutler Beckett's themes for chrissake.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-18 16:41:01
OH CRAP. I'm on the wrong page, aren't I. Uh...there isn't a delete post option on this website, is there? XD XD XD

...I love Pirates 3, by the way...


Mike2013-03-18 20:06:07
I was gonna say, Edmund... XD If you're referring to Dead Man's Chest, though, I agree with the original comment completely.


Mike2013-03-18 20:07:21
And of course POTC4 was atrocious. That goes without saying.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-18 21:08:42
Yeah, for some reason I thought this was On Stranger Tides...I wouldn't have said that about Dead Man's Chest, though!


Mike2013-03-18 21:48:06
I guess with Dead Man's Chest you can either say it is a good sequel score or it isn't. I actually do enjoy it quite a bit, but it feels like there isn't much new material. There's the themes for Davy Jones and the Kraken and those are nice. We only hear the very beginning of Beckett's theme in that movie, and Tia Dalma's theme isn't present very often. The drunk Jack Sparrow theme is technically new, but it sounds like music from the first movie. Then the rest of the score is pretty much a regurgitation of Curse of the Black Pearl.

Though, of course, Dead Man's Chest is a far better score than On Stranger Tides, and only nerds like me really take this much time to analyze how much new music there is. :P


Medigo2013-03-19 10:53:14
I'd say DMC is at least a better movie than AWE. But thats just me
I wouldnt call its score a major regurgitation still, there are more new cues than just the ones people remember


Mike2013-03-20 08:24:31
Actually, there was one awesome new cue when Jack is chained to to the ship and gets eaten by the Kraken (Hello Beastie on the album). And then of course there was the cannibal island music, but that wasn't very memorable. To me, at least.


Jimmer2013-03-20 10:52:15
Actually Mike, even the track "Hello Beastie" wasn't even all that new. Listen to the score "King Arthur" (2005), track 3 "Do You Think I'm Saxon?" Then listen to "Hello Beastie." The similarities are everywhere! Maybe Hybrid can confirm this, but that track might've even been used as a temp, it's like exactly the same.


Mr. Charles2013-03-20 13:22:14
Remind me again why DMC is being discussed on the AWE page?


Anonymous2013-03-20 23:27:37
My guess, Jimmer, would be that the scene in question used the King Arthur piece as a temp track and then modeled the official music after it. Kind of like the way "Time" from Inception is based off "Journey to the Line" from The Thin Red Line.


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-20 23:36:31
Funny cause the cue you mention is actually by Hans... I mean, himself ! ;)


Mike2013-03-20 23:56:20
Yeah, haha...Self-plagiarism!


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 00:27:46
More like "finishing an idea once started" ! ;)


Richard2013-05-13 22:20:51
Actually, I think that Dead Man's Chest had more new material than any of the other movies. The Jack Sparrow theme, though based on a cameo cue in COTPB, was mostly new. Davy's Jones' theme was completely new, The Kraken's theme was completely new, and Jack's Action theme was completely new. That's the majority of the score in the movie right there.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-13 22:22:23
Beckett's theme, Tia Dalma's theme... :)


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-13 22:30:00
Okay so Dead Man's Chest had the three major new themes, Jack, Kraken and Davy Jones (plus Jack's action theme), the beginnings of Beckett and Dalma's themes and a small standalone theme for the Cannibal Island. Not bad - that's seven by my count.

But At World's End had the love theme, which is really three separate melodies put together (A, B and C phrases), the Hoist the Colors theme (again two melodies, verse and chorus), Beckett's new full theme, Sao Feng's theme and (stretching a little here) the World's End theme. I'm inclined to throw in the parachute theme as well, even though it only crops up once, just because of how damn memorable it is. So that makes nine new themes! Plus, each score is progressively richer because it builds on what came before (with certain exceptions like the Kraken being confined only to DMC), so in reality AWE has over two dozen themes. Like I said...VERY complex thematically, and hence why I think it's RCP's best!


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-13 22:34:10
Well Edmund my little problem with POTC 3 is basically the problem I have with the movie...

It kinda gets boring & too long in its "Brethren Court" sequence. And the score follows... It's all calm and then turns into big mayhem with the Maelstrom.

From minute 1 to the last, POTC 2 flows better. The structure of the score and film is better in 2. Of course, "Jack & Beckett" or "Jiggy Kraken" or "Green Flash" have almost no equivalent in 2.

But hey, we won't fight to know which masterpiece is the best...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 10 || 2012-12-01 22:31:57
So, time to play !

Hoist The Colours => HZ & Gore Verbinski, lyrics by T. Elliott & T. Rossio

Arrive In Singapore => HZ

Entering The Bath House => HZ, Geoff Zanelli (themes used : Verbinski & Badelt (POTC 1))

Steam Room => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler (Badelt)

Sao Feng Negotiation => HZ, Lorne Balfe (Verbinski, Zanelli)

Battle With The Brits => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler (Verbinski, Badelt)

Battle Continues - Will Makes Deal => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler

Crew Embarks => HZ, Jackman, Örvarsson

Trying To Get Lost => HZ

Over The Edge => HZ, Jackman (Zanelli)

Multiple Jacks => HZ, Örvarsson

Crabs => Örvarsson

Captain Jack Sparrow => HZ, Örvarsson

Rescue Jack => HZ, Örvarsson

Who's Captain? - Below Deck => HZ, Balfe

Souls At Sea => HZ, Balfe (Verbinski)

Dreadlock Jack => HZ, Jackman, Örvarsson

The Green Flash => HZ, Jackman

Jiggy Kraken => HZ, Geoff Zanelli (Verbinski, Neely)

Jack & Beckett => HZ, Balfe (Zanelli)

Seduction => HZ, Zanelli

Sao Feng's Death => HZ, Balfe (Verbinski, Zanelli)

Chinese Captured By Brits => HZ, Balfe

Bootstraps - Elizabeth Locker => HZ, Balfe

Jack Catches Will (Part 1) => HZ, Balfe

Escape - Norrington Dies => HZ, Örvarsson (Neely)

Shipwreck Cove => HZ, Zanelli (Verbinski)

Brethren Court Begins => HZ, Balfe (Verbinski)

Davy Jones Visits Tia Dalma => HZ, Balfe (Verbinski)

Teague & The Code => HZ, Örvarsson (Verbinski)

Parlay => HZ

Flying Dutchman Prison => HZ, Örvarsson

Calypso On Deck => HZ, Zanelli (Badelt)

Releasing Calypso => HZ, Zanelli

Hoist The Colours Declaration => HZ, Glennie-Smith (Verbinski)

Maelstrom (Part 1) => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler (Verbinski, Zanelli)

Getting The Chest => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler (Badelt)

A Lost Bird => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler (Verbinski, Badelt)

The Wedding => HZ, Jackman (Badelt)

Maelstrom (Part 2) => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler (Badelt)

Davy's Death => HZ, Jackman (Badelt, Zanelli)

Liftoff => HZ, Zanelli

Beckett's Death => HZ, Örvarsson (Badelt)

Celebration => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler

One Day => HZ, Jackman

The Fountain Of Youth => HZ, Balfe

End Titles => HZ, Zanelli

End Credits (Green Flash) => HZ, Jackman

End Credits (Hoist The Colours) => HZ, Glennie-Smith (Verbinski)


That's it ! :)


//////2012-12-01 22:36:27
Thanks for the credits Hybrid Soldier!


thejok3rrules2012-12-02 00:12:40
Hybrid Soldier, could you add the credits to the tracklist below? Thanks for them btw! :D


thejok3rrules2012-12-02 00:18:09
Never mind, I just read your previous comment about it xD


Mr. Fate2012-12-02 00:38:00
Just to clarify, Hybrid: the names listed inside parentheses indicate tracks that were written new but use old themes written by the composers in said parentheses?

If one were to want to tag the sessions, ideally would one include the names in the parentheses?


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-02 08:38:13
It's all new cues there, it contains theme written by Klaus Badelt & Blake Neely from POTC 1. And of course Verbinski (Zanelli too for his Tia Dalma theme), but he co-wrote the Hoist the Colours theme but certainly didn't work on any cue of the film.

For my personal tagging, I basically keep people who were involved in the film music writing (no Klaus or Blake).

But to be totally fair you could add them, yeah.


mittens2012-12-02 12:24:07
Cool, thanks for credits!


Mr. Fate2012-12-02 20:10:48
Thank you! From taking a look at this list, can one make the assumptions that Henry Jackman was behind the new love theme and Atli Örvarsson was behind the Multiple Jacks theme?

It also appears that a couple credits are missing. Can the credits for the OST help to fill in the gaps? I noticed the credits for some of the cues that make up "At Wit's End" on the OST are not present here. I wonder, if one were to take a close enough look at the music detailed here and see who wrote what, if one could infer who did the remaining cues...


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-02 20:44:57
Right for Atli. But the Love Theme is HZ, though yeah Jackman was in charge of arranging it most of the time (Lorne did too on Below Deck).

At Wit's End is made of "Trying To Get Lost" (HZ) + "Davy Jones Commanded" + "Crew Embarks" (HZ/AO/HJ) + "Over The Edge" (HZ/GZ/HJ)

And we know At Wit's End is by HZ/LB/GZ/AO/HJ. So yeah, by elimination, "Davy Jones Commanded" is HZ/LB. :)


T-Mann0362012-12-09 11:43:40
Ear-gasm!!!!!!


Mike2013-02-28 08:11:09
When you attach names to these cues like Geoff Zanelli or whoever, does that mean that that composer took Hans' cues and arranged them, and Hans was essentially uninvolved with the formation of that cue as such?

Mike reply Replies: 6 || 2013-02-09 21:45:29
I love 0:53-1:10 in Maelstrom Part 1, how it mixes Beckett's theme with Hoist the Colors. 1:43-1:52 is really awesome as well.


Mike2013-02-09 21:51:08
If we ever see an expanded score release (as in, more cues, not just the suites, great though those are), I'd love to have the whole 20 or so minutes of the Maelstrom/battle music. We only got 6 minutes on the album in the second half of "I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time".


Areozz2013-02-10 00:39:55
What are you complaining about? Something expanded that you could pay money for--or have someone ELSE pay money for? The sessions are out; this is AT LEAST 95% of all of the music ever written, conducted, and recorded for this film. All 20 of those minutes are on the sessions so what the hell are you asking for?


Mike2013-02-10 02:24:54
What am I asking for? A LEGAL way to get the stuff.


Areozz2013-02-10 05:25:32
Oh yeah...You're the guy who asked permission to use a custom fan-made cover somewhere for his own private iTunes library. Your intentions might be good and honest, but your species is dying. You're in a world full of pirates.


Mike2013-02-10 05:44:06
Best to go out with pride, I guess.


uga2013-02-10 09:02:33
I liked how in Dead Man's Chest Becket claimed "The world is shrinking. Jack Sparrow is a dying breed." as in he's a pirate, yet here we are. The 21st century bootlegers.

Ds reply Replies: 1 || 2013-02-08 13:01:02
I think "One Day" isn't the film version, which featured piano. Do somebody know where to find it?


Areozz2013-02-08 13:45:00
no

Mike reply Replies: 4 || 2012-12-28 00:50:52
Is Beckett Theme (Original Demo) played on the piano like the Jack Theme Demo?


Mr. Fate2012-12-28 01:34:29
No. I am certain this is the track that can be found on Lorne Balfe's website.


Mike2012-12-28 01:48:25
I doubt it. The track on LB's site is 7:02. The one here is only 6:52. Perhaps it's like the suites in The Dark Knight's complete score, though, and the lengths are just different.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-28 10:17:55
It is the cue on Lorne's site. Just cut the silence here... :)


Mike2012-12-29 09:11:06
I actually like the track on Lorne's website better than the album track. The harpsichord (or whatever it is) is more prominent.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-03 04:25:25
For the record, Hybrid: Jack & Beckett IS good.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-02 17:33:25
Man, I really wish I knew where to find this...At World's End is my favorite Zimmer score. Thanks for putting up the tracklist anyway, it gives me hope that one day I'll finally get my hands on thsi sucker!

Felix reply Replies: 4 || 2012-11-30 23:49:50
It's AMAZING


Mike2012-12-01 00:23:32
Yes indeed. I think this was Zimmer's finest score.


axel2012-12-01 10:13:25
It's probably the best Pirates Of The Caribbean's Score... It's my opinion, of course :)


Mikel SiW (a fan from Spain)2012-12-01 13:29:10
Sublime


Mike2012-12-01 19:38:27
The thing I love about this score is how big and fresh it is. Repetition of cues was kept to a minimum.

Jimmer reply Replies: 3 || 2012-12-01 14:43:07
@Hybrid: You know there is a partial cue list containing who composed what on the forums under the old thread, Tracklist Details. Page 4 I believe. You show go ahead and detail the rest of this gorgeous tracklist.


Master of Fate2012-12-01 14:47:08
I don't know why, but I have to agree with this! It would be pretty neat to see who composed everything. Although, I'll bet information like that could be pretty tough to hunt down.


Jimmer2012-12-01 15:07:04
@Master of Fate: Actually probably not for Hybrid. He even said further down that he has all the cue details... It's just a matter of putting them up here, which I pray he does because I'm really OCD and it quells that by having the exact composer for each cue.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-01 15:57:36
I won't do it on the page cause I only do it when I'm 100% sure of everything (like Angels & Demons).

Give me a few minutes, I'll detail here on the comments all I can !

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2012-11-30 19:56:12
Yes I do !

TTRL is just personal laziness (I just have never taken the time to take care of it properly, and I don't want to list raw things around here). :)


Mike2012-11-30 19:57:20
GOD BLESS YOU, HYBRID SOLDIER! I'm so happy.


Mike2012-11-30 19:59:57
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, Hybrid, but can we use these images for iTunes files or are they privately made stuff that will get someone's anger flaring if they're taken?


Mike2012-11-30 20:03:56
I know, I know: "That's dumb, everything is stolen, who cares, get with it".

I like certitude. ;)


Hybrid Soldier2012-11-30 20:12:01
I basically know those making covers I use (most of the time), sometimes they even do them for me (cause I suck :P), and I think they don't care, on the contrary they'd be flattered by people using their covers ! :P


Mike2012-11-30 20:13:23
Thanks! :)


Bondo2012-11-30 21:26:38
They don't mind at all ;)
(can't take credit for this one though!)

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