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Why is Hans Zimmer credited for almost every track on here? Didn't he only write like 3 demos and then the other composers arranged from them? Why is it fair to credit him on almost all tracks? Or is it that each track he's on is an arrangement or uses the themes he composed in the couple demoes he did? I'm still really confused about the total extent of his involvement with the score, both behind the scenes and actual compositions.
Hybrid Soldier
2016-05-28 09:39:56
He didn't "write only demos"... First he only wrote one, and he actually co-wrote a lot of the cues...
Zimson
2016-05-28 11:39:18
Thanks for clearing that up. It's a shame Badelt alone got top credit.
Where does the Pirates Of The Caribbean Theme (Original Demo) come from? It's different than the 4:56 AM album track. Is the latter just a shortened version or what?
Anonymous
2013-08-01 02:36:44
Odd indeed. Just found it today. Sounds like "The Battle" from Gladiator was mixed in with the Day One demo piece.
Hybrid Soldier
2013-08-01 09:01:36
Hans made it "available" on a Soundtrack.net interview for POTC 2 back in 2006.
Hybrid Soldier
2013-08-01 12:48:37
Speaking of that suite, I once asked Hans if it was the only he wrote for that score. Here are some HZ thoughts about POTC (this is "censored" cause some can't just be shared out loud...) :
"No, but if you listen carefully, virtually all the tunes in the movie are arrangements of that... Oh, and the skeleton dance number, but that suite is the cue - with some help from Geoff Zanelli -. Gore and Jerry B. asked me to go home and come up with something. That's why it completely falls apart at the end... I was tired, and couldnt play anymore...
Ramin did a great arrangement of my tune for the sword fight. That got everything going. Geoff Zanelli arranged more music than anybody, some of it really way beyond arrangement. Blake Neely was stuck on - I think - 28 versions of the 'moon' cue... The endtitles - by tradition in all the films - are my suite arranged by Geoff.
I didn't write a Sparrow tune until the second movie. He just had a riff for the first one... Just as a personal joke, I tried to have every character's theme start with the same 3 notes. That got a little confusing. But you have to have fun."
NM
2013-08-01 13:08:06
That's really cool Hybrid, thanks. It's interesting to know how the score actually came together, that's really not what comes across from interviews and whatnot. Do you know which themes/tunes Badelt came up with?
Hybrid Soldier
2013-08-01 13:23:24
;)
I've gathered quite some intel on many movies from Hans' more or less effective recollections regarding them !
For Klaus, listen to the whole Fog Bound, it's like a medley of all his themes ! :)
Mike
2013-08-01 15:29:05
Thank you, Hybrid. Interesting news and quote. I thought you said a while back that the "tut tut tut" pan flute theme in Fog Bound was Zimmer, though?
Pierre
2013-08-01 19:09:05
You say Fog Bound is a medley of Klaus' Themes. However it opens with Zimmer's Jack Sparrow "riff", then there's some atmospheric electronics with a bit of tension building, then the "love theme" or whatever, which is in Hans' original demo. Please explain.
Hybrid Soldier
2013-08-01 19:18:23
No no no I mean the real 5 min Fog Bound...
Not the OST track, which indeed has a Sparrow theme by Hans and at the end the beginning of Smitten Will...
Mike
2013-08-01 21:32:15
Oh, by the way, which Black Hawk Down cue/album track did the moonlight serenade scene rip off of?
Hybrid Soldier
2013-08-01 21:56:25
Tribal War.
Pierre
2013-08-01 22:02:19
Thanks Hybrid Soldier, I was not aware of an alternative track.
Anyone notice the POTC4 mermaid theme at the beginning of "Liz Meets Barbossa"?
Mr. Fate
2013-05-07 00:47:07
I think you might be confusing that with another theme that is found all over the four films and has come in a wide variety of arrangements.
Hybrid Soldier
2013-05-07 08:31:44
Careful HZ had the fun to try to make every theme start with the same 3 notes, so it's confusing ! :)
Anonymous
2013-05-07 08:37:58
He did?!
Hybrid Soldier
2013-05-07 09:16:53
Well, take the POTC Main Theme, the first 3 notes. Then the Jack Sparrow related themes beginnings(Breaking the Chains and Captain Jack Sparrow).
Take Beckett's theme first 3 notes. Then Davy Jones. The Kraken' main melody after that...
Yeah, always the same. Different pitches, same progression... :P
Mr. Fate
2013-05-07 13:46:58
So, I'm NOT going crazy after all! When all the sessions surfaced, I started taking a closer look at all the music and started noticing that almost EVERYTHING from Pirates 1 was the same theme!
mind=blown.
Hybrid Soldier
2013-05-07 13:48:14
Almost all of P1 is an arrangement of his demo... :)
The complete sessions on an other site has only 72 tracks, this on 77 tracks:O What's the different between it? And where can i find the 5 missing tracks?
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