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Because they didn't work direcly in this score, but their material from the previous one was reused.Does anyone know why some of the composer names are in brackets? Thanks!thanks4:05 of "STEALTH" some of the best soulful action music I've heard from a Zimmer score. I wonder who wrote that particular section. This the type of stuff I would play trying to rush a pregnant woman to the hospitalIn case he's visiting this site, I wanna say 'Thank You' to Ashton Gleckman who does the 'Behind the Score' episodes on YouTube. I loved the 1-hour episode for the Transformers scores and I actually learned a lot. Very educational. I found the video by accident and now I plan on watching his other videos as well.<br><br>Job well done, my friend.
@Hybrid <br>You don't add anymore Trevor Morris things ?Probably for chronological purposes<br>even though the movie uses a shortened version of Romanian Wind at that timei saw the movie a couple of weeks ago again and the showdown in the school is very well shot and intense and trevors music is effective there. you can hear track 8 and 19 in that scene. a really good action scene.<br>===============================<br><br><br>I agree. <br><br>And I think at the end of the day the movie itself is not the type of movie that could win people over with its score. No matter how successful and popular it is and no matter how good the score is. I Am Number 4 was part of the YA craze that took over Hollywood a few years back (we all know how people feel about those movies), and even the most successful YA movies (like Twilight) are not exactly known for their scores.<br><br>People - even film critics who are supposed to talk about all aspects of the movie - were too busy talking about half-naked characters and Kristen Stewart's acting..... and completely ignoring the good work done by Alexandre Desplat.<br><br>It was pretty much the same with I Am Number Four...<br><br>It's not that Trevor created a "bad" score, it's simply a case of a nice, little score that went under the radar. No one bothered to talk about it..... Just like his score for Torque, which as far as I'm concerned is one of his best scores.I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.<br>===========================<br><br><br>I totally get what you're saying. I also get kinda frustrated when a "big" track overshadows an entire score. The best recent examples are IMO the Transformers scores. I don't blame folks for gravitating towards the epic sound and the power anthems, but A LOT of subtle, equally great tracks end up getting completely ignored. And just like you, they're usually my favorite tracks. <br><br>But why most people don't think like us?<br><br>The reason I think is because those "big tracks" are presented - most of the time - during the most memorable moments in those movies. They immediately get people's attention. They're stuck in their mind along with those iconic images. And I think by nature, people are more attracted to the big and "in your face". For most casual listeners the more subtle tracks work in the context of the movie and they absolutely do notice them while watching the actual film. But unlike you and I they don't feel the need to listen to them separately. They're too busy paying attention to the "big track". That goes even for some score fans.<br><br>While tracks like the Star War theme, the Indy theme, the Transformers theme, the Gladiator theme, the Godfather theme, the Armageddon theme, the Pirates theme, the Lord of the Rings theme are so big, melodic abd easily digestable that folks simply can't resist them. And when there are vocals involved as well (like Gladiator) it's even better, because people treat it as a full-blown song. An emotional song that they can listen to over and over again.<br><br>The subtle tracks simply can't win against that. Sadly....<br><br>By the way, speaking of The Island, My Name is Lincoln (as much as I like it) is not my favorite track of the score. The more subtle opening track (The Island Awaits You) and especially the Lima One Alpha theme are my personal favorite tracks. Of course, they're nowhere near My Name is Lincoln, in terms of popularity.<br>Why is Romanian Wind not sequenced after Case Re-Opened? Is not the former 7M48 and the latter 7M47?
Yeah that is true, canít argue there lol<br><br>And is it me or does ďCalypso Must Be ReleasedĒ sound like Black Hawk Down?To be fair there is a lot of King Arthur in At World's End too. Just the general feeling you get from the action tracks in both scores is virtually identical. Hell, one of the main themes from King Arthur even appears when Bootstrap Bill remembers that Will is his son.@MrTweedy<br>Thatís totally fine, everyone has their own favorite HZ scores, which is awesome!<br><br>Itís funny though, I feel like DMC is far more schizophrenic than AWE. Now donít get me wrong, I absolutely love DMC. Itís the score that got me into Hans Zimmer. But still, I feel like a major part of that score is note-for-note reprises of cues/themes from COTBP. Not to mention the temp tracking of King Arthur.<br><br>AWE always felt far more original to me, especially considering that the entire tone of the music shifts from the ďrockínírollĒ sound of the first two to a more traditional score (at least by Hans Zimmer standards lol)@MrTweedy<br><br>Just curious, what scores do you considered to be Zimmer's best?The Pinnacle of Hans' career?<br>Although I really like this score, I don't agree. But hey, I know it's just a matter of opinion, okay? ;)<br><br>Of course it shows Hans strengths in almost every area (action, drama, romance, comedy...) but for me it's too much of a medley of previous works, without much personality.<br>It feels a bit like a palette with too many colors. From the action sequences borrowed from Drop Zone, to the Morricone inspirations for Jack's Sequences, to Gladiator's duduk that ended up there with no real reason, to a beautiful Love Theme that brings another new shape to the sonic identity... it's like the score sometimes goes schizophrenic.<br><br>Though each individual idea is really enjoyable to listen to, I think Hans has made scores that are much more cohesive and enjoyable as a whole!
i also think it is an underrated score. especially the action music has a couple of nice touches. i saw the movie a couple of weeks ago again and the showdown in the school is very well shot and intense and trevors music is effective there. you can hear track 8 and 19 in that scene. a really good action scene. the emotional music is nothing ground breaking, but a lovely listen.Y'know, it's funny. The big names that always get the most attention in film music are often not my favorite tracks of the scores they represent. Now We Are Free, Arrival to Earth, Like A Dog Chasing Cars, Star Wars Main Theme, Indiana Jones Main Theme, Infinite White, One Day, Circle of Life, The Fellowship. Though they are the most well known, they're usually nowhere near the peak of quality of their scores. <br><br><br>I noticed this the most in Hans Zimmer's concerts (not World of Hans Zimmer mind you). The parts he played from The Dark Knight Trilogy in particular usually had the least substance. Just the bombastic tracks. The only choice I agreed with was Time from Inception. There was no Am I Not Merciful, A Watchful Guardian, Sunrise Over Pride Rock, none of that. <br><br><br>Even with Star Wars, the main theme and the Force theme are solid pieces of music, but neither come close to the beauty of Princess Leia's theme, or the wondrous Yoda theme. <br><br><br>Same with Lord of the Rings. The Fellowship Reunited, Very Old Friends, Gollum, and The Breaking of the Fellowship are much more substantial pieces than The Fellowship Theme alone in my opinion. <br><br><br>Can't say anything about My Name is Lincoln because I haven't finished The Island score yet, but yeah. I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.Thanks guys, will check out these cues.Hmm, aside from "The Guardian Suite' I don't think I've heard any other tracks from this score. And I have a feeling I'm not the only one....lol.<br><br>Speaking of.........I would most definitely put "The Guardian Suite' right up there next to "Now We Are Free" and "My Name is Lincoln". It's *that* good and powerful. Shame that the movie is not as popular as The Island and Gladiator. If it was, that suite would've been one of the most popular film score tracks with millions of views on YouTube. It certainly deserves it.Very underrated score. As already pointed out by a couple of reviewers, it's a nice, little throwback to MV/RC's Golden Years and Trevor's own scores from 1997 to 2002. Give it a listen if you can. It's not long and it's worth it.
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  1. The Wedding - Beckett's Arrival (1:49)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  2. Captain Jack Sparrow (0:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  3. Turkish Prison (1:38)
    Hans Zimmer (Klaus Badelt)
  4. Jack In The Box (1:01)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  5. Monkey Sting (0:13)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  6. Jack's Vexed - Will Brought To Beckett (1:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  7. Beckett Wants Compass (1:45)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  8. Drunk Jack - Maps (0:50)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  9. Rum Locker (5:34)
    Hans Zimmer (Blake Neely)
  10. Jail Love - Jack Sparrow Montage (2:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman (Klaus Badelt)
  11. Will Arrives On Island (3:01)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Mel Wesson (Klaus Badelt)
  12. Jail Sting (0:25)
    Lorne Balfe
  13. Swann Helps Elizabeth (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  14. Elizabeth Threatens Beckett (1:13)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  15. Pintel & Ragetti In Rowboat (0:32)
    Trevor Morris (Klaus Badelt)
  16. Cannibal Drums #1 (2:36)
    Mel Wesson
  17. Jack's First Escape (1:01)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  18. Cannibal Drums #2 (0:23)
    Mel Wesson
  19. The Waltz (0:44)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Bruce Fowler
  20. Climbing Up (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  21. Cannibal Drums #3 (0:24)
    Mel Wesson
  22. Cannibal Lights Fire (0:23)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  23. Rolling Ball Cages (2:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  24. Cannibal Island Escape (1:18)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  25. Crew Run To Pearl (0:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli (Klaus Badelt)
  26. Beach Chase (0:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  27. Cannibals Chase Dog (0:20)
    Geoff Zanelli, Mel Wesson
  28. Jack Shows Will The Cloth (1:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  29. Row To Tia Dalma (2:34)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli (Klaus Badelt)
  30. Tia Dalma Recognizes Will (0:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  31. Tia Dalma Tells Davy Jones' Story (2:53)
    Geoff Zanelli, Lorne Balfe (Blake Neely)
  32. A Touch Of Destiny (0:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  33. Dutchman Arrival (8:36)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt, Blake Neely)
  34. The Haunted Dress (1:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris (Klaus Badelt)
  35. Norrington Overlay (0:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  36. Old Habits (0:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  37. Tortuga Bar Fight (1:18)
    Skip Henderson, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  38. Elizabeth Helps Norrington (0:34)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  39. Davy Jones Plays His Organ (1:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  40. The Whipping Scene (3:34)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith (Klaus Badelt)
  41. The Dock Scene (2:34)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  42. Swann & Beckett Make Deal (0:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  43. The Dice Game (3:49)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris (Klaus Badelt, Blake Neely)
  44. Will Steals The Key (2:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman, Martin Tillman
  45. Father & Son Goodbye (1:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  46. Persuade Me (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  47. Norrington Teases Liz (0:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  48. Waking The Kraken (0:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  49. Kraken Second Attack (2:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Bart Hendrickson
  50. No Survivors (1:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith (Klaus Badelt)
  51. Almost Kiss (2:04)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  52. Finding The Chest (1:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  53. Down!!! (0:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  54. Unearthing The Chest (0:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  55. Will Arrives (0:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  56. 3-Way Swordfight (Part 1) (1:34)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  57. 3-Way Swordfight (Part 2) (4:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  58. Heart Madness (6:45)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  59. The Dutchman Appears (0:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Henry Jackman
  60. Davy Jones Ship To Ship (2:23)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  61. Kraken Attaches To Black Pearl (1:13)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  62. Preparing (1:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  63. Jack Develops Conscience (0:28)
    Hans Zimmer
  64. Kraken Third Attack (2:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Bart Hendrickson (Klaus Badelt)
  65. Abandon Ship - Jack's Demise (4:47)
    Hans Zimmer
  66. Davy Opens Chest (2:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler, Lorne Balfe
  67. Fetching Back Wicked Jack (3:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe (Blake Neely)
  68. End Titles (2:11)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  69. Dog Button (0:22)
    Geoff Zanelli, Mel Wesson
  70. Jack Sparrow Theme (6:06)
    Hans Zimmer
  71. Davy Jones Theme (3:15)
    Hans Zimmer
  72. Kraken Theme (7:05)
    Hans Zimmer
  73. Jack Sparrow Theme (Demo) (4:05)
    Hans Zimmer
  74. The Heart Of Davy Jones (Album Suite) (3:14)
    Hans Zimmer
  75. Jack In The Box (Alternate) (1:01)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  76. Rum Locker (Alternate I) (5:34)
    Hans Zimmer (Blake Neely)
  77. Rum Locker (Alternate II) (5:35)
    Hans Zimmer (Blake Neely)
  78. The Waltz (Alternate) (0:44)
    Nick Glenne-Smith, Bruce Fowler
  79. Jack Shows Will The Cloth (Alternate) (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  80. Tiam Dalma Tells Davy Jones' Story (Alternate) (2:53)
    Geoff Zanelli, Lorne Balfe (Blake Neely)
  81. A Touch Of Destiny (0:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  82. Dutchman Arrival (Alternate) (8:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt, Blake Neely)
  83. The Whipping Scene (Alternate) (3:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith (Klaus Badelt)
  84. The Dock Scene (Alternate) (2:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  85. Waking The Kraken (Alternate) (1:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  86. Kraken Second Attack (Alternate) (2:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Bart Hendrickson
  87. Finding The Chest (Alternate) (1:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  88. Down!!! (Alternate I) (0:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  89. Down!!! (Alternate II) (0:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  90. Davy Jones Ship To Ship (Alternate) (2:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  91. Kraken Attaches To Black Pearl (Alternate) (1:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  92. Kraken Third Attack (Alternate) (2:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Bart Hendrickson (Klaus Badelt)
  93. Davy Opens Chest (Alternate I) (2:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  94. Davy Opens Chest (Alternate II) (2:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
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Rapta reply Replies: 1 || 2018-05-20 14:55:41
Does anyone know why some of the composer names are in brackets? Thanks!


Rafael2018-05-20 15:19:52
Because they didn't work direcly in this score, but their material from the previous one was reused.

Poisonheadcrab reply Replies: 7 || 2018-02-12 14:39:35
You seem to have a good amount of cues streaming on here along with some good unreleased bits. I'm just wondering if you could upload a little more. I am not asking you to put the entire score on here, just a handful of cues.

The tracks I'm most interested in
-Swann Helps Elizabeth/Elizabeth Threatens Beckett

-Jack Shows Will The Cloth

-The Dutchman Appears

Concerning Alternate Tracks:
I'm am very interested in a lot of the Alternates listed here and would like to be able to hear some of them. Again, I'm not asking you to upload every single one, just ones that sound significantly different than their counterparts, if it's just the same cue with slightly different orchestration then there is no need to bother.


Mike (OTM)2018-02-12 22:05:06
Well the way Hybrid has been doing it so far, he uploads one track for each composer to highlight their contributions. But you know, a general sampling isnít a bad idea..


Iamtommie2018-02-12 22:47:58
I don't think Hybrid is going to upload those tracks because they're simply not available anywhere. And there are a lot of people looking for it. Just like the missing cues for At World's End.


Medigo2018-02-13 01:03:39
I wasnt aware AWE even had missing cues, outside of post-session film edits


superultramegaa2018-02-13 03:58:11
Well the main cue that's missing from At World's End for me, is Will and Bootstrap. Yes there's an SFX filled one, but I've never found a clean version of that track. Yet it's listed on this site and even has a Lorne Balfe credit. Not sure where Hybrid got that, but I'd love that one.


Poisonheadcrab2018-02-13 07:14:15
There is also the "New Love Suite" which is likely what the Treasure collection Suite "Marry Me" is based on.


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-13 10:11:05
I doubt "New Love Suite" is substantially different from "Marry Me", if at all.


Poisonheadcrab2018-02-13 13:12:46
@-Edmund Meinerts

Pirates Day One, Just Good Business & Hoist The Colors Suite contain the same basic structure as their original counterparts albeit re-orchestrated and/or shortened. Marry Me could very well be a slightly altered version of the original suite but since I haven't heard the original I can't say for sure.

Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-24 20:44:20
Hybrid, it's been a while since somebody asked but in Dead Man's Chest there are 18 missing cues on a grand total of 15 minutes. In At World's End there are 2 missing cues of gramd total of 5 minutes.

My question is if you know if they are ever going to be released??
Thanks very much

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2016-08-20 18:02:54
Does anyone know anything about the missing tracks? Like if someone has gotten a hold of them and/or if anyone else might get them?

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2015-10-28 06:23:43
Where can I get these music? Are they comes with DVD? I bought tracks from google play music, and cannot found some of songs listed in here.

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Anonymous2015-10-28 06:26:29
Also one more question. why I cannot play any other music than these seven music at the top of the page? [Climbing Up/Jack Sparrow/Tia Dalma/No Survivors/First Escape/Haunted Dress/Heart Madness]


Edmund Meinerts2015-10-28 09:14:28
Hehe, new people are cute.


theslap9712015-10-29 02:36:41
@Edmund Meinerts Hahaha, right? ;)


GR72015-10-29 09:31:41
boring....

--> 2nd info after the album title on this page :

"Label: Unofficial Release"

theslap971 reply Replies: 2 || 2015-10-04 21:00:43
Oh my God. 94 tracks? Any chance of this getting a leak?


Anonymous2015-10-05 18:36:17
Outlook not good.


Anonymous2015-10-28 12:07:12
I would kill for those unreleased alternates

Typical Bitchy Greedy Fan reply Replies: 8 || 2012-12-25 16:56:13
Um. This is not complete. There are like 15 whole cues completely absent from this.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-25 17:04:34
Yep, that's why I wrote "expanded", you know.

Among the missing cues you have :

Norrington Teases Liz
Persuade Me
Elizabeth Threatens Beckett
Monkey Stings
Will Watches The Dice Game
Cannibal Lights Fire
Elizabeth Helps Norrington
Swann & Beckett Make A Deal
The Dock Scene
Swann Helps Elizabeth
Tia Dalma Recognizes Him
Norrington Overlay
...

For something like 15 to 20 min...


al bundy2012-12-25 17:09:55
and why didn't you add them and called it complete score? ;)


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-25 17:16:31
Well I don't have them, simple as that ! :)


AnonymousD2012-12-25 23:20:26
are Alts of themes missing as well?


Jake2012-12-26 16:04:24
and, what i can called it now ! unrelesed tracks or Hybrid@ you know the tracks titles from music sheets !!


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-26 16:15:46
I reconstructed the POTC 2 & 3 (partial for 3) cue lists myself. Was a long and hard work. The original files came without titles, just "1m1, 1m2, 1m3...", and if you're all getting something clean like this, it's because I spent some time on it... Pirates have no secrets for me ! :)


Jilal2012-12-30 13:45:27
What's the cue number for "Climbing Up", Hybrid?


Huge POTC Fan2013-04-23 00:34:09
@HybridSoldier Any chance of the titular "missing cues" surface?

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2014-04-04 21:09:40
What of Hans Zimmer is there in the "Climbing Up" cue? His name is under it, but I don't hear any of his themes in there...


Hybrid Soldier2014-04-04 23:18:52
Well the core of the cue is actually a rearranged version of the "Gladiator ripoff" from POTC 1... That's why... lol

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2014-10-16 16:01:55
What did Hans Zimmer write in the Haunted Dress cue? I didn't hear any of his themes is all.


Mike2014-10-16 16:11:44
He probably wrote the core cue, because it was also in POTC4 and there's no reference to Trevor Morris on that OST's page. So my guess is Hans wrote the cue and Trevor Morris just did a slight rearrangement or addition.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-05 00:13:29
For the sake of it, the credits to the rest of the cues, that are unfortunately not here...

Monkey Stings
Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe

Jail Sting
Lorne Balfe

Swann Helps Elizabeth
Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman

Elizabeth Threatens Beckett
Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe

Cannibal Drums
Mel Wesson

Cannibal Lights Fire
Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith

Crew Run To Pearl
Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli (Klaus Badelt)

Jack Shows Will The Cloth
Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)

Tia Dalma Recognizes Will
Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman

Norrington Overlay
Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris

Old Habits
Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris

Elizabeth Helps Norrington
Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman

The Dock Scene
Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman

Swann & Beckett Make Deal
Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman

Will Watches Dice Game
Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe

Persuade Me
Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe

Norrington Teases Liz
Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe

The Dutchman Appears
Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Henry Jackman

Jack Develops Conscience
Hans Zimmer

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2014-04-04 18:22:46
may i ask who determines who does which cues? and what determines whether HZ does a cue by himself?


Lambegue2014-04-04 19:32:14
Usually, Zimmer writes musical suites, that is to say pieces of music inspired by the film, but not written to match a precise scene : in this case, the suites are "Jack Sparrow theme", "Davy Jones theme" and "Kraken theme", plus all that was remaining from the first movie.
Then, the additionnal composers take the suites, arrange and edit them (or even write some new music based more or less closely on the suites) to match the picture. I think all this is mainly organized by Zimmer, even if there is probably quite a lot of discussion between the members of the crew in order to determine who does what. Sometimes, it seems as if Zimmer himself does some cues for the picture, but I don't think it is such a frequent thing...But again, I'm not the one who knows best about this on this site.


Hybrid Soldier2014-04-04 19:38:16
Flip a coin also works !! lol


Mike2014-04-04 21:02:38
Whoa, Hybrid, you serious? xD

Mortifer V. reply Replies: 0 || 2013-12-02 22:23:58
Looks like we will never have that pure organ version of the Kraken theme :(

Mike reply Replies: 8 || 2013-06-01 10:47:47
I assume Hans is responsible for the "Lord Cutler Beckett" suite from the next film, but did he compose the little snippets of the Beckett theme heard in here?


Areozz2013-06-01 22:59:39
The "Lord Cutler Beckett" suite was actually written for Dead Man's Chest. Much like the "Jack Sparrow" suite found on DMC's OST, this Beckett suite explores all the aspects of Beckett's theme. It IS the origin of all the little snippets of the Beckett theme heard in here. It's a shame that such a large portion of the Beckett suite never saw any use in the movies, though.


Mike2013-06-02 02:59:33
That may very well be correct, but the Beckett suite isn't listed on this page. It's on the AWE page.


Edmund Meinerts2013-06-02 18:39:36
I'm pretty sure that the suite was written for AWE. The only aspect of the Cutler Beckett theme heard in DMC is the three-note rising ostinato (1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2), whereas all of the other aspects of the theme don't come into play until AWE.


NM2013-06-03 22:27:47
The Cutler Beckett theme is really good. Pity there were no theme suites for OST. Surely the 5 minutes of Mermaids isn't all Hans wrote for that one?


Mike2013-06-03 23:55:46
No theme suites? If you by the Treasures Collection you get:

Cutler Becket
Pirate Lord of Singapore
Just Good Business
The Heart of Davy Jones
Marry Me
A demo of the Pirates theme
A demo of Jack Sparrow's theme


Areozz2013-06-04 00:43:43
OST, here, stands for "On Stranger Tides". NM was asking if there were any suites for Pirates 4 outside of the Mermaids suite. I would expect not, given all the complications that score had. All of the new themes introduced in Pirates 4 play basically in their entirety in any one place that they appear (slight exaggeration) so there wouldn't be much more in a suite.


Mike2013-06-04 00:47:27
Ah, I see. Aren't Blackbeard and Angelica theme suites?


Areozz2013-06-04 01:06:10
Blackbeard? On the original soundtrack? I guess if you want to, you could call it a suite. It's only composed of three cues that just happen to contain Blackbeard's theme and that were somewhat lazily mixed together: cue #1 is Blackbeard's introduction, cue #2 is Blackbeard's demise, and cue #3 is the one named "Fry The Cook".

And again, with "Angelica": I guess you could call it a suite, but technically, I don't think it is even Pirates music. The very basics of the theme were maybe written by Zimmer, but the music was done by Rodrigo y Gabriella, whose names appear precisely nowhere in the credits accompanying the Pirates 4 demos.

Lucius reply Replies: 4 || 2013-05-28 09:19:17
And again, Hans ALONE arranged one of the best cues in the film (AWE's was "Trying to Get Lost", DMC's is "Abandon Ship - Jack's Demise"). So with due respect, if you say Hans has lost it, you don't know what you're talking about! :)


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-28 10:44:00
Yes, but this was seven years ago now. The people who tend to say Hans has lost it are talking about the last few years. And I must admit that sometimes I do think that to myself, because he hasn't really wowed me in a while - Inception and TDKR are in that drony pseudo-intellectual not-so-thematic style of his I don't like much (though they both have good individual moments) and SH2 and PotC 4 were shameful followups to good or even excellent scores, to name the bigger efforts. Hopefully Man of Steel will bring back a bit of that spark I've misseed from him lately.


Ds2013-05-28 13:36:16
I'm sure it will. From what we've heard MoS looks like a good mix of the old melodic Zimmer themes and the sharp, violent sound of TDKR.


Mike2013-05-28 19:45:39
I'm thinking Man of Steel will be something great, particularly with the film. But I'm going to remain slightly skeptical for now, just in case. :P


Anonymous2013-05-28 19:59:20
Hybrid, do you know, out of curiosity, why it is that Hans has other people arrange most of the film cues? Does he want to give the other composers experience? Is he too busy? I'm just wondering.

Jimmer reply Replies: 5 || 2012-12-30 13:34:03
@Hybrid: Where does the track "Wheel of Fortune" from Lorne Balfe's website fit in on this track list?


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-30 15:03:22
The cue on Lorne's site is "Climbing Up" (despite its name there, though the names on the site are mostly random titles).

Should be 3m19C or 3m20... :P


Peter2012-12-30 17:01:40
You're right ; Hybrid you add this track (3m19?) Climping Up from LB'Site to the track, but this track isn't in the recording sessions release, i don't know why ? we can add it and the quality is the same to the RE.SE.


Jimmer2012-12-31 13:46:04
@Hybrid: Ok. Thanks Hybrid. Grateful for your work and effort. And if you have the composer list for At World's End (Expanded Score) that'd be incredible too :-)


Mike2013-01-01 01:25:34
He already gave the credits to POTC3 on the AWE expanded score's page. Look in the comments. ;)


Mark2013-03-21 14:13:43
Too bad it's just expanded and missing a lot of music :( - best of the 4 scores

Piere reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-26 15:24:54
Great themes of ( The Kraken, Davy Jones & 3-Way Swordfight )

Mike reply Replies: 3 || 2012-12-25 20:47:59
AWESOME. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!


Dutchman2012-12-25 20:53:36
Go now,see The Curse of the Black Pearl Complete now


82012-12-25 20:56:30
this has yet to leak, i don't see why everyone's getting their pants in a jumble if its not out yet


Dutchman2012-12-25 21:01:14
The Curse of the Black Pearl is out konw, as i heared in a forum.

Poisonheadcrab reply Replies: 3 || 2012-12-25 16:17:55
Soooo, is this legit or what?


Scores2012-12-25 16:33:57
Yes, now it's official. It's the same version Anonymous123 posted before.


Poisonheadcrab2012-12-25 16:49:36
That's nice to know. I can't wait to here it.


Philoubond2012-12-25 18:58:48
I would like to have the expanded score of the pirates 2 also please!! thanks very much in advance!!

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