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Hybrid, what did Danny think of what Hans was doing? Since he tries to claim that no Batman composer after him wrote a "theme"...Okay, so I'm not a fan of Balfe's; I think it's objectively the case that much of his music is very, very similar to work he's already done (seriously, how many times has he made obviously variations of Journey to the Line / Time?). However, his best work is both highly creative and emotionally compelling IMO, not sure how one could expect more than that. Ironclad is actually a good example of thisActually Hybrid my comment is based on their separate  interviews years apart. Zimmer's arguably dismissive comment years ago and Elfman's arguably stern remark about his theme being the only Batman theme, of recent note. <br><br>If they are both good friends who go to each other's barbecues on Sundays and drink beer together, more power to them. If they have a stellar working relationship, well, I obviously am not privy to that, but good on them. However based on what I've heard my impressions don't lean towards the latter.<br><br>If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. <br>  <br><br><br>"Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty."<br><br>Blackwood might want to have a word with you.Too many songs! But at least there is 15 tracks of score.<br><br>BTW, I don't think Djawadi is able just to do themes. His score in GoT Season 7 shows that he is able to do action tracks very well. Also, in GoT Season 6, he shows that he is able to have many themes and develop them in many different ways.
Meta your comment is based on smoke...<br><br><br>Do you have any idea of what Hans & Elfman's relation is ? How many scores Danny mixed at Remote Control ? That when Hans was writing Batman Begins, Danny was in the next room and Hans invited him to check what he was doing ? How many people from RCP Elfman recruited to help him ?lol it's too funny the guy even spent the time of typing all this...<br><br>Some people apparently have very boring lives on this planet !These comments by “Balfe” are comical.god knows where such venom comes from . Maybe an ex employee probably.he was correct on one point .He is indeed a trailer composer.He just did the mission impossible trailer!!!LOL. I guess this "Balfe" guy is one of those trolls from Stop RCP group.Many benevolent saviours explaining the error of our music tastes have surfaced recently, haven't they?
Eh, Mr. Ellipsis, I have to take issue with your appeal to popularity. Justin Bieber sells millions of records. That doesn't make his music good. Last year's piece of crap pointless Beauty and the Beast remake made a frankly terrifying amount of money at the box office. Doesn't stop it being a piece of crap.Guys, I know a lot of you probably think I'm an overly critical snob, but next time you do, just remember this guy and realize how much worse I could be. :pBalfe is not a composer, but still he gets to compose dozens of films and shows every single year, wow. He must be doing something good if he is on of the most busiest composers out there, don´t you think? Or you want to tell me that every producer, director or whoever hires him is deaf? Do you know how many films had to be re-scored by Balfe in the past few years? <br><br>Why you feed the troll?<br><br>Wrong.<br><br>1. Wallfish is a very fine composer, period. Hans is a synth guy.<br><br>2. If Hans wasn't concern about BR he wouldn't do it.<br><br>3. Slavery was abolished 150 years ago. Hans choose to did it and agreed to involve Wallfish.<br><br>4. Maybe true, but it wasn't the thought of Villeneuve.
here we go again:<br>Why Hans Zimmer Got The Job You Wanted (And You Didn’t)<br>https://behindtheaudio.com/2013/07/hans-zimmer/Hey you guys.<br><br>Balfe is a trailer composer not someone who composes real scores. He helps Hans out on his projects and occasionally may have a good idea. He is not an artist, simple as that.<br><br>Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty. The epitome of that is Terminator Genisys that even fans of the franchise found embarassing (and that is for a series based on synth scores). The samples are especially abhorrent<br><br>How he climbed to compose music for real films is a mystery. Go back to one of his earliest scores, the 2009 'score' for Ironclad, to find how utterly disappointing his work has been all the way throughout his career.<br><br>Balfe is a hack. He will never be considered a real composer. The industry knows Hans is pushing him and once that attention goes somewhere else, as it does with Hans frequently, Balfe will be immediately forgotten. Tell me - who actually wants a Lorne Balfe score for their film!!<br><br>You rapid fans supporting his work will be laughed at as being idiotic symbiotic followers. Get a fragging grip.<br><br>Balfe is not a composer. <br><br><br>This score is probably the largest failure of Zimmer's career - these would have been his objectives - think about it:<br><br>1. Enhancing the work of Vangelis for a project he has always admired.<br>2. The chance to work with an absolutely open palette of sounds<br>3. The opportunity to truly reinvent not only film music but MUSIC.<br>4. Ability to work with Denis Villeneuve, a man who gets scores nominated for the fact that they are innovative.<br><br>How did Hans fail here?<br><br>1. Wallfisch, a very fine composer is not a synth guy.<br><br>2. Hans does not give a shit anymore, seriously.<br><br>3. An imposed composer on a passion project rarely works<br><br>4. Johannson's work on Arrival is so beyond Zimmer's abilities that he had to go secure.This score is probably the largest failure of Zimmer's career - these would have been his objectives - think about it:<br><br>1. Enhancing the work of Vangelis for a project he has always admired.<br>2. The chance to work with an absolutely open palette of sounds<br>3. The opportunity to truly reinvent not only film music but MUSIC.<br>4. Ability to work with Denis Villeneuve, a man who gets scores nominated for the fact that they are innovative.<br><br>How did Hans fail here? <br><br>1. Wallfisch, a very fine composer is not a synth guy. <br><br>2. Hans does not give a shit anymore, seriously.<br><br>3. An imposed composer on a passion project rarely works<br><br>4. Johannson's work on Arrival is so beyond Zimmer's abilities that he had to go secure. <br><br><br>Dunkirk is a sound experiment and not a score. It is rather sad to see a fine composer like Benjamin Wallfisch deal with this nationalistic nonsense.
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Steve JablonskyJacob SheaNathan WhiteheadClay Duncan
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional ArrangementsAmbient Music Design
Battleship (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 170'58
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  1. BIP (3:19)
  2. Breaking In (0:50)
  3. You're Going To The Navy (0:57)
  4. Five Years Later (1:04)
  5. Soccer (1:42)
  6. Hopper Loses The Game (0:58)
  7. Beach - Objects In Space (1:19)
  8. Admiral Speech (0:24)
  9. Hopper Talks To Kid (0:51)
  10. Hopper Sneaks In (0:53)
  11. Stone's Speech (0:27)
  12. Hopper & Nagata In Admiral's Office (1:00)
  13. Hopper Disciplined (0:39)
  14. You're Gonna Get Kicked Out (0:47)
  15. Sam Meets Mick (0:57)
  16. Mick & Sam Take A Walk (1:27)
  17. Space Movements (1:04)
  18. Hopper Apologizes To Sam (0:39)
  19. Objects Make Impact - Discovery (4:40)
  20. First Contact (Part 1) (2:04)
  21. First Contact (Part 2) (1:53)
  22. Weather Dome (2:10)
  23. Spaceships Out (1:36)
  24. Warning Shot - First Attack (3:12)
  25. Stone Dies - Hopper Charges (4:31)
  26. Shredders (4:07)
  27. Hopper Apologizes - Retreat (1:15)
  28. Regents Are On The Mainland (2:44)
  29. Hopper Mourning (1:12)
  30. Regent (2:15)
  31. Regent Rescued (0:48)
  32. They Want Our Planet (2:28)
  33. Thug Fight (4:04)
  34. Regents Walk Through Jeep Crash (2:52)
  35. Cyborg (1:00)
  36. Communicating Home - Obama Transmitting (3:31)
  37. Water Displacement (2:47)
  38. We're Gonna Go Get It (1:07)
  39. Buoy Grid Battle (5:24)
  40. Sinking The Stinger (0:53)
  41. Sam Calls (1:47)
  42. Natsu Campu (2:24)
  43. Sinking The Last Stinger (0:48)
  44. Shredder Tower Emerges (1:13)
  45. USS John Paul Jones Sinks (2:25)
  46. Buy Them Time - US Admission (1:48)
  47. We Have A Battleship (1:21)
  48. USS Missouri (1:35)
  49. Art Of War (2:16)
  50. Dropping The Anchor (2:32)
  51. Super Battle (1:34)
  52. Aliens Power Up The Satellite (1:11)
  53. Fighting The Thug (3:31)
  54. Save The World Or Save Ourselves (2:17)
  55. Blowing Up Saddle Ridge - Planes Save The Day (1:26)
  56. Hopper Silver Star (1:56)
  57. Shane Wants A Chikcen Burrito (1:33)
  58. Battleship Idea Suite (4:22)
  59. Acoustic Drive Suite (4:19)
  60. Six Idea Suite (4:33)
  61. BIP Suite (5:09)
  62. Angry Action Suite (4:03)
  63. Breaking In Suite (2:26)
  64. Dark Action Suite (6:44)
  65. Aliens Suite (4:20)
  66. Action Idea Suite (4:33)
  67. Chicken Burrito Suite (3:20)
  68. Planet G Suite (4:39)
  69. Hopper Idea 1 Suite (3:15)
  70. Hopper Idea 2 Suite (3:29)
  71. Soccer (Alternate) (1:42)
  72. Object In Space (Alternate) (0:34)
  73. Super Battle (Alternate) (1:06)
  74. Fighting The Thug (Alternate) (3:32)
  75. Blowing Up Saddle Ridge - Planes Save The Day (Alternate I) (1:14)
  76. Blowing Up Saddle Ridge - Planes Save The Day (Alternate II) (0:41)
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Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-19 22:45:30
Where can we have this complete score ? :/

Danny reply Replies: 1 || 2013-01-21 05:36:21
Lovely stuff... way better than the first soundtrack by a country mile. I could write a lot about all the tracks, but my softest spot is for "Sinking the Stinger".

Still, I agree that it was a little disappointing some of the music used in the "suite" tracks was not used in the movie. It would have been better for the movie.


T-Mann0362013-12-24 03:54:16
I agree with you 101%.

S/ash reply Replies: 9 || 2013-01-02 14:09:21
And that was the only information I needed. Now I know who he is


Hybrid Soldier2013-01-02 14:14:32
Fantastic Sherlock !

I rarely post there, just some pieces of advice from time to time because most of the people around is just so goddam lost !

And yeah since I'm not a cover designer (like... at ALL) and my friends are not always available, I take some where I can, and I try to ask permission as much as possible. In this very case, it was T-Mann... :)


S/ash2013-01-02 14:22:04
Well then it's a shame I couldn't get you to use my own cover for TRON: Legacy. Cause honestly, the one here sucks balls. That artwork has been used way too much. Mine is far superior


T-Mann0362013-01-02 14:47:28
Now THAT was uncalled for, S/ash.


Mr. Charles2013-01-02 15:00:30
Whoa, whoa. It's actually MY cover, S/ash just helped me tweak it a bit. If anyone wants to see it, PM me on the site that cannot be mentioned. I agree about it being far superior to the one on here, though. The artwork on it is used to much and I'm sick of seeing it. "Music from the Motion Picture by Daft Punk"? Seriously? It lacks the word "complete", something my cover has. If you want to see it, you know how to reach me


Hybrid Soldier2013-01-02 15:14:53
I'm personally not a big fan of all those "Music from the Recording Sessions", "Complete score", "Expanded score"...

I do prefer the old classic "Music by" which can be used in every case... :P


Mr. Charles2013-01-02 15:27:18
All it says is "Complete Motion Picture Soundtrack", which is what it is, because it includes the source music by Journey and Eurythmics. Also included is the TRON Scherzo and it's alternate. The one heard in the film is the videogane music, which can be heard slightly over Journey's "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart). Everything heard in the film is included, so it's the complete soundtrack. Again, if anyone wants to see it, contact me.

My cover art also includes Daft Punk's logo Ik the TRON style font


Mike2013-01-02 22:56:27
I definitely agree with Hybrid here, I like covers which can be used for any type of album.


Anonymous2013-01-03 00:36:44
Mr. Charles, most real score lovers care nothing for non-original music that has nothing to do with the film. If it is original source by the composers, that's fine, but songs from years before the film was even thought of? Meh.


Hybrid Soldier2013-01-03 13:07:29
Yep I basically keep all that's "score team" related. Score of course, songs written, produced and/or arranged by the score crew.

Like for instance, from Blade Trinity, the song Fatal by RZA was orchestrated/arranged by Stephen Coleman, Djawadi's main orchestrator. I won't keep a song from a previous RZA album.

S/ash reply Replies: 4 || 2013-01-01 22:03:42
Hybrid Soldier, I'm curious as to how you knew this was T-Mann's cover art? I mean, you deny being a certain member who shares good stuff (rhymes with "shore" and sopranos"), and you deny being a member on the forum that cannot be linked to on this site, so how'd you know?


T-Mann0362013-01-02 05:31:54
Do us all a favor and do not create a drama. This is not the place to start one OK? Peace on earth.


S/ash2013-01-02 13:20:24
Oh....so what are you saying T-Mann? That you and Hybrid know each other? That he's on the site which cannot be linked to on here? I think you've both just blown each other's cover. Well...we all KNEW he was a member there. But bow the evidence is indisputable. How else would he have known to credit you? Hmm...I wonder...


Agent Smith2013-01-02 13:32:52
oh man, who cares where hybrid is surfing and what sites he's visiting. is it a crime to visit that site? no! so who cares, we're able to hear to the sessions, be thankful for that!


Hybrid Soldier2013-01-02 13:46:34
Yes I'm there, I watch what's going on. It's my job to know what's going on... :P

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 7 || 2012-12-26 16:43:17
The score as heard in film is not exactly really good... Too bad they decided not to use some of Jablonsky's finest ideas, especially Battleship Idea & Acoustic Drive...

PS : cover credit goes for T-Mann here !


Lampert2012-12-26 16:51:11
Yeah the ideas are actually nice!

btw. could you please delete the email posts in POTC2 topic? I've send you an email but you didn't respond.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-26 17:01:11
Well I can't do it myself, I've already warned the guys in charge for it... It's in their hands now ! :)


janlee2012-12-26 17:46:09
Hybrid you are right, the ideas by jablonsky are great, i wonder why they didnt want to ues them. This is another great example of what a composer writes and what the director and producer want instead but the blame is shifted to the composer for not being good enough etc.


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2012-12-26 17:54:16
I agrre with Hybrid, but in the movie there is a great action themes, also included in the recording sessions

Is still one of the best works of Jablonsky


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-26 17:54:16
Yeah people just have no idea... ;)


T-Mann0362012-12-26 20:21:22
Thanks for crediting me, Hybrid. I truly appreciate it.


Ds2012-12-27 22:55:50
Wow, i can't understand why the hell the director did not want all these wonderful ideas from Steve Jablonsky. Imo the score wasn't bad but a little bit too loud and generic, it's true. These complete recording sessions proves that Jablonsky's still a very talented composer!

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