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And THIS is why I love Zimmer. His little attention to details. If you listen to “This Is Clark Kent”, at 1:14 and 1:59 he inserts the Krypton motif subtly into Clark’s theme(s), suggesting that little bit of alien that’s there.cmon bro whaddaya expect? these dc people blew their wad with the Dark Knight and Nolan leaving, so they tried to keep it dark by employing GameBoy enthusiast Snyder who turned it into a farce. Zimmer wiping his ass with this was another nail in the coffin.<br><br>By this point with the whole gritty dark theme being an overplayed hand, the merging of these Superheroes took WB to the only one place they probably could still dig out some hope to salvage it - by mining the Batman and Superman cartoon series, hiring Whedon to punch it up a bit, and getting Elfman back to bring back the nostalgia (Im guessing Shirley Walker would have been the first person they call, but obviously she is deceased RIP). <br><br>Didn't work for many reasons, but whatever...I dont say FUCK EM....Not necessary.I couldn’t agree more. In context “Home” is really out of place, especially when there is already an established theme for Clark. On its own it’s not bad at all. <br><br>That’s how this score overall is. On its own it’s actually a pretty damn good superhero score, with a good balance of themes and solid action writing. In context of the film and the DCEU in general, it’s such a departure from the prior themes/style that was established.I really hated the entire thing. Everything about it. Fuck WB, fuck Whedon, fuck Elfman.I really hated this score for not using Clark's theme from MOS but this particular track "Home" is really growing on me. Still nothing tops Zimmer's magnificent theme
Okay, Phantasm, I can hear where you're coming from. But I'd argue that the tone and harmonies of the two pieces are so completely different that this is a coincidence.Well, to give also my 2 cents to this thread:<br><br>Zimmer has a high reputation at the acadamy owing to certain scores from the past...I fear he could even solely knock against an old cooking pot from is mum during the whole time... if he should do it for a Nolan-movie (but maybe for other Hollywood-blockbusters too) he will get his nomination for sure. Zimmer-Fans will call it "creative", "brave" and "innovative".<br><br>Would be interesting if "only" Wallfisch or Balfe could have got the credits for Dunkirk. If one of them would have the nomination now as well? Zimmer laughed already his head off with the "Preachers Wife" nomination and could be, with this one too. <br><br>Don´t get me wrong...I loved/love many Zimmer-scores from the past and I´m not just a hater, but the music he has done for the last 2-3 blockbusters were not the Zimmer-quality for me for which I had appreciated him once.That's all i was trying to do is make a point lol i still can't believe I'm the only one who's noticed that.Oh wow you’re right those are very similar... almost too similar lol. I thought you were referring to that low brass motif for Kylo Ren amd also didn’t see where you got that from, but you definitely have a point.Don't believe me? Here's Kylo rens theme listen from :30 and forward https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp433n4KzDA<br><br>Now here exodus wounds, from the beginning you can hear it but it becomes more apparent at 1:45 and onward   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDujO-3Bec
Dude go to youtube type in Exodus wounds from the war for the planet of the apes soundtrack then go and search for Kylo Ren theme it's the first video called kylo ren suite. Literally note for note he copied and pasted Williams kylo ren theme.I'll acknowledge that maybe War/Apes is a more distinctive and accomplished score than Homecoming. I just find a lot of it not very gratifying to listen to. The first fifteen minutes in particular is a really tough slog. Homecoming on the other hand is a standard typical Giacchino score, no surprises whatsoever, but it's more enjoyable for me (although the action music outside of a couple cues is really generic, I prefer the playful stuff in the first half of the score, and the main theme is pretty catchy and memorable).<br><br>Also, where the hell is Kylo Ren's theme in War/Apes?Giacchino's score in War for the planet of the Apes I think is on my top three scores of 2017, but the Oscars, BAFTAS, Golden Globes and so on would never give an award to a score like that because they (almost) always prefer scores like The Shape of Water (which is good and works great in context but it's not as great)where is the Zanelli/Lindgren music in the movie??Isildur , so if hans for example won an academy award for his amazing spiderman 2  he should share it with 11 other composers beacause all of them had credit , really??!! ( magnificent six and about 5 additional music composers )
No news yet Mr. Bale &#128542;No news yet Mr. Bale &#128542;Agreed, War for the Planet of the Apes is much better than Homecoming. IMHO.I really like War for the Planet of the Apes. Giacchino did a great job creating a score unique to the movie with great atmosphere. I am actually tired of "Giacchino having fun."Amazing soundtrack
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Hans ZimmerJay RifkinShirley WalkerBruce Fowler
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Backdraft (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 64'33
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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  1. Flashlight (0:52)
  2. Main Titles (4:26)
  3. The Real Thing (1:07)
  4. One Case Won't Do (1:16)
  5. Late For Work (0:54)
  6. Dig In - Mannequin Fire (8:31)
  7. Save My Baby (2:08)
  8. You Win (0:27)
  9. In Another Life (2:48)
  10. Hard Lesson To Learn (1:17)
  11. She's Hot & Smokey (2:28)
  12. Check It First - Check For Heat - Tim Burns (2:45)
  13. After The Fight (0:41)
  14. What's This Job All About? (2:15)
  15. The Ex Is Back? (1:03)
  16. I Just Can't Anymore - Swayzak's Office (2:01)
  17. Swayzak's OK (1:06)
  18. Did You Want To Be Your Dad? - Who Doesn't Love Fire? - Brian Finds Trych (2:49)
  19. Final Fire (9:59)
  20. Approaching Fire - Who's Your Brother? (9:22)
  21. Funeral - Swayzak Is Busted (3:14)
  22. Epilogue (3:34)
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-29 16:47:31
Listening to this complete score for the first time and it's really striking how different the mix is on the album. The snare drums are much further forward, and everything sounds a lot brighter and immediate but also "thinner" on the album. Whereas the film mix has synth parts I didn't even know exist, like at the very beginning of the main titles/"Fighting 17th".

I'm trying to decide which version I like more, and it's difficult! The film versions sound "richer" but I miss the ballsy snare drum rhythms...


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-29 23:21:21
One is HZ, the other (the album) is not. End of story... :P


detective mittens2018-01-13 19:56:14
I think it's great if you have both versions, so you can choose whichever you feel like :)

I agree with everything you said except that I don't miss the ballsy snare drum rhythms so my vote goes to this mix xD

badbu reply Replies: 15 || 2014-05-20 12:10:07
The best score of the last 20 years!
The sound is so impressive!


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-20 12:13:29
Bah! It's good, but to say there's been nothing better written since? Lord of the Rings, Jurassic Park, At World's End, How to Train Your Dragon...bullshit!

Besides, 20 years ago was 1994. This came out in 1991. :b


badbu2014-05-20 12:20:25
LOTR...no...JP...no...POC3...ok, you're right!HTTYD...no...:P
yes, i know :D
But this score was Hans breakthrough :)


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-20 12:23:41
This score is far superior than HTTYD... lol


0-cool2014-05-20 12:34:16
RIP Edmund Meinerts


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-20 12:39:45
You seriously think this is better than Lord of the Rings?


ERS2014-05-20 13:20:25
This just in: Backdraft will go down in history as the best score ever written for film. You heard it here first, folks! People three centuries from now will remember BACKDRAFT as the pivotal score that had "impressive sound."


RealFfingMusic@23142014-05-20 13:44:40
No, we don't. :P


badbu2014-05-20 13:59:00
@Edmund: yes, i think this is better! :)


Greg2014-05-20 14:02:45
This is the worst bullshit i ve ever read since the bible...
How is it even possible to think that this score which doesnt even have 1h of music can beat the LOTR and its 12 hours of music?
Backdraft, honnestly no one gives a fuck about that one, LOTR has sold out its concerts for the last past years so please think this straight.


badbu2014-05-20 14:23:41
ok sorry, i change my feelings and my mind :D


Anonymous2014-05-20 15:24:28
there are more interesting subjects to press on than what's the best music ever written. I for one like to know what happened during the album production for this film. Compared to this bootleg the stuff on the Milan disc sound like all new recordings. Tthat epilogue cue in particular sounds hell of a lot better on the Milan disc than here, even if the sound quality is not so good.


ZimmerFan2014-05-20 17:51:30
Of course, I love me some Zimmer, but only Zimmer drones think this beats things like Jurassic Park and LOTR. Pathethic...


Per2014-05-20 18:23:13
The film mix (or original mix or what you wanna call it) of the Epilogue cue (or all the cues for that matter, but in particular the Epilogue) I find far more superior, and more enjoying, and certainly more powerful!, than the lousy album mixes.

Only thing I liked about the album mix was that extra piano...


Ds2014-05-20 20:42:03
This is a nice score but holy shit it doesn't hold a candle to most HZ scores, and certainly not to HTTYD!


Marcorea2017-03-30 10:31:53
I gotta agree with ds here. I love BACKDRAFT and I'm a pretty big hz fan but there is no comparison. Especially with HTTYD. IMO zimmer cannot orchestrate in the same way with an organic orchestra the same way as shore, Willian's and even powell. He adds a lot of extra layers through synth. But zimmer is the best at the style of music he produces.

David reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-14 22:28:40
Where can this album be purchased?


Zimson2014-07-15 05:30:11
It's a bootleg, so it's not for sale. *** EDITED ***

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-19 17:05:28
In the loving memory of Shirley Walker.

Krieger reply Replies: 2 || 2013-04-30 00:52:15
Is there anywhere i can buy/download this complete score? I cannot find it, ANYWHERE.


Terry2013-07-16 14:35:33
got to www.elitesoundtracks.co.uk they have it instock


Aggelos2014-05-18 10:53:32
Why dere iz no dizcuzion for diz Zimmer zweetie?
Diz iz a great expanded zcore! Diz is da cummah!!! Zimmer unleazh his fury and wrath with diz zoundtrax back in 1991!!!


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