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The douchebag with the fucked up hairline known as Hybrid soldier erased my previous comment because i said Zimmer barely writes his own music. Can't even have an opinion on this website anymore? It's like I was bashing him or said anything terrible.I can't agree with Genius: Picasso. I like the score, but it doesn't have enough direction. Just a lot of soundscaping. It is like the score is just there. <br><br>Balfe has this same problem with a lot of his scores.<br><br>I am so tire of people claiming Balfe has potential. It is like a basketball fan constantly claiming that Player X is two years away from being two years away. Every year people say Balfe is going to do something great. I am still waiting for this. That said, I haven't listened to MI:6 yet.Christopher Nolan of music? You serious? You compare Balfe with Nolan, one of the most talented directors of this generation? Nolan always does his own shit. He doesn't tempt scenes from other movies and recolor them and call them his. <br><br>Has Balfe written a great score that is truly his own yet? Maybe I just haven't heard it. <br><br>The only thing Balfe and Nolan has in common is that they are both white and they are both British.So I've finally decided to give this a listen today, and it was a lot of fun! The general quirkiness, source cues that actually benefit the score, and one of the best themes that I've heard from Zimmer in Moriarty certainly make this one a keeper. A lot of people barp on the OST, but it certainly made me interested to hear the music in a better form. I'll probably have to listen to it again before forming a definitive opinion, but as is, it managed to actually live up to the hype.Music By Harry Gregson-Williams<br>Additional Music By Stephanie Economou<br>Music Supervisor By Jabari Ali
Totally phoned in...I got nothing from this...Y'know, up until recently, I also thought Lorne was one of the least interesting RCP composer next to Junkie XL. Then I listened to Genius: Picasso (because of that one Balfe troll's recommendation interestingly enough), and now I see enormous potential in him. That is one of the most interesting television scores I've heard so far. The orchestrations and overall complexity is an enormous achievement for Lorne and shows that he can do much more than generic sample composition. <br><br>I'll probably skip this score because I have no interest in Mission Impossible, but I have a lot more interest in Balfe's career now thanks to his work on Genius: Picasso. If he continues on that level of composing, he may actually get some notoriety.Um.....guys, why are we acting like Kraemer doesn't have the skill to do a different sort of score? I'm fairly positive Jack Reacher doesn't sound anything like RN. Really, the reason he wasn't brought in was because, apparently, McQuarrie was pissed that he was overruled in how he wanted the film to sound, so be deliberately chose not to hire him this time. Purely a thing of spite. And a lot of the disappointment lies in those who normally don't pay attention to film music, which shows just how special that particular score was.<br><br>Really, I'm confident that had McQ had his way this time, and with Kraemer on board, he would've made something that did fit the new tone of the film. Composers should be able to challenge themselves to do something that is out of their comfort. Which is likely why a lot of Zimmer scores are the way they are, since he's allowed to differentiate every once and a while.<br><br>As is, with this logic, Cruise should not have hired McQ again if he wanted a different kind of movie for Fallout.Hot take: Cruise saying that Fallout is the best score in the franchise is the equivalent of Danny Elfman saying there is only one Batman theme. Just marketing tricks to get one more excited.<br><br>Me personally, the general M:I sound isn't something I tend to get excited for, though I definitely acknowledge it's objectively well done. With M:I-2 though, while it's technically dated and incredibly cheesy, I admire it for those reasons, and is incredibly fun for me. Not to mention that the Spanish guitar is a lovely touch, and Injection is proof that there is more to Zimmer than some might think.<br><br>Balfe as a composer, to me, seems like tbe sort of guy who's told to get synth that fit the film well enough, and call it a day. Sure, there's one or two scores that go above and beyond to actually be something of note, but otherwise he's among the least interesting of the RCP bunch. Feel free to feel however you want, but that's my two cents.<br><br>It's frustrating that you have to deal with some of the touchier fans Edmund, but I'll admit that I do get a laugh everytime it happens. I love music, but I don't feel the need to get overly defensive about. I would just enjoy it and leave it like that.Meh on this one...Listening to it doesn't really do much for me. Maybe because I dont care for Cruise, or MIssion Impossible, or maybe because I already heard better from Inception and Fury Road....
Even on last year's Dunkirk Hans wrote 90% of it. Unless you are born in the last few months there is plenty of music which Hans wrote and many can remember.Interstellar is barely 3 years old.SamualPF - there people go again misconstruing my comments about some of the posters here as negative comments against Balfe or his music. I didn't say anything about the score. But sure, keep pushing that agenda.<br><br>George, you make fair, well-articulated points and for what it's worth, I never included you among those who have, shall we say, aroused my suspicions. I'm looking forward to checking out the score for myself and rest assured I'll give it a fair shake when I do. I've liked plenty of Balfe scores in the past, I swear I'm not a hater! :pNone of Kraemerís music is reused! Thematic consistency says what?I actually always listen to a new score with an open mind. If I start expecting something and the score doesn't sound like it or doesn't have a certain thing in it I will always be dissappointed. If I don't expect anything and it turns out a score is a dissappointment, it's not such a big deal.<br><br>For example:<br>A lot of people wanted/expected a lot of individual hero themes in Infinity War. I didn't think it was necessary and I'm absolutely in love with the score.<br><br>And in the cause of reprising themes from 30+ different character in a score of 2 hours would have been chaos. If you're talking about LOTR and themes, that's different story. Those scores were almost all 3 or 4 hours.<br><br>But all and all. I don't think this is a better score than RN, but I don't think it's a bad score. It fits the movie, and I think that's what a score is all about
Edmund ........<br><br>Yet again another negative comment about Balfe based on no fact . Sums you up really . The fact Tom Cruise who has produced the franchise has said he thinks is the best means something .we all get it that you donít like his music but simply contain yourself for always wanting to make pointless comments about him .<br><br>The reviews have been amazing for he filmmand Balfes scores . This may irritate you but at least watch the film and listen to the score then give a proper opinion.give it a goNo offense, Edmund, but if you havenít listened to it then donít make a judgement call on those of us that like it. Fallout in my opinion is the only really good RCP blockbuster score this year, and Iím going to voice my opinion on that. Pacific Rim, Tomb Raider, wrinkle in time, and Skyscraper have all been disappointments for me so when this surprisingly came out two weeks early, and I surprisingly liked it, then of course Iím going to ďflock overĒ and tell you all about how I feel. <br><br>Reviewers liking it is fun for those of us that like it. Tom cruise, who actually IS known to like film scores and has been to concerts for film scores (like Brian Tyler, even though Iím not crazy about him), liking it is also exciting for those of us that like this score and also for us who were excited to hear an updated RCP take on Mission Impossible. I root for all the RCP composers to succeed and create something memorable, and when others seem to like that too then Iím going to comment on it.<br><br>Whether it was Lorne Balfe, Henry Jackman, Ramin Djawadi, or Hans himself who scored this I would have been one of the first to tell you all if I liked it. And if I hated it I would also have voiced my disappointment... but simply put I was not disappointed and Iím glad that others are liking it, including reviewers and Tom Cruise.Once again, and not for the first time on this site, I can't help get the feeling that a Lorne Balfe score page is getting brigaded. Seems like every time he puts a new score out, a bunch of people flock to the page with glowingly positive comments (and brooking not even the slightest criticism), frequently from irregular users with very generic names who don't ever post in threads by other composers. And then using weak, tired arguments like "the reviewers love it" (I trust film reviewers on scores about as far as I can throw them) or "Tom Cruise said it's the best" (and since when is Cruise an authority on film scoring?) or "this is a new/modern/DARK M:I movie" (no excuse for a bad score). It feels, quite frankly, like shilling.<br><br>Disclaimer: haven't actually heard the score, I'm making no judgment on the music itself here. This is merely an observation of the posting patterns here.Iím right there with you. I definitely think Balfe is very talented, although heís far from one of the best composers out there. Especially compared to Zimmer.<br><br>That being said, Iím not crazy about MI:2. The highlights are solid (Injection and Bare Island especially) but I find most of the score either schizophrenic or just not as developed as the scores that influence it. Sorta like how everybody loves ďThe RingĒ but I canít personally canít help but hear it as a lesser version of Hannibal.Right, which is why Iím ok with this. Look, I love the score for Rogue Nation as much as everyone else, but I still kept an open mind and was surprised that I enjoyed Fallout as much as I did, regardless of the influences.
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Steve JablonskyClay DuncanJeff BiggersJon Aschalew
ComposerAmbient Music DesignMusic Scoring MixerSynth Programmer
Pain & Gain
Label: Varese Sarabande
Length: 66'11
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  1. I'm Big (2:20)
  2. Sun Gym (2:02)
  3. Definitely Guys (1:57)
  4. I'm A Doer (2:26)
  5. I Got Saved (1:19)
  6. Wrong Car (1:16)
  7. Taser (1:36)
  8. Cologne (2:18)
  9. I'm Gonna Tell Jesus (4:04)
  10. Buckle Up (2:09)
  11. Run Him Over (3:27)
  12. Catching Bad Guys (1:31)
  13. I Work Hard (3:45)
  14. Get A Pump (1:38)
  15. Sometimes You Gotta Run (1:24)
  16. Difficult Victim (0:59)
  17. 14 Minutes (2:49)
  18. I Believe In Fitness (2:24)
  19. Supermen (3:32)
  20. So Buff (3:06)
  21. Sacred Trust (3:30)
  22. Du Bois (3:26)
  23. CIA (1:43)
  24. My Sh*t Stopped Workin' (3:59)
  25. Toe (2:00)
  26. Doyle (5:31)
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Bayhem reply Replies: 0 || 2017-07-18 13:47:04
I really do consider this to be one of the most unusual (in a good way) and original MV/RC scores. Don't even recall any tracks that successfully suggest that this is MV/RC. My opinion, of course. I wonder if some of you peeps feel the same. And I admit, I'm not the biggest fan of too much electronics and experimentation, but in this case it actually works. It's a very contained score with some exceptional tracks. 14 Minutes is a personal favorite.

Evenstar reply Replies: 6 || 2015-01-30 08:51:05
Supermen was written by Clay Duncan. Clay just told on his facebook page.


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-30 19:01:16
And I know about 5 tracks that were written Jon Aschalew... :P


Adam2015-01-30 19:16:58
Thanks for letting us know that, Evenstar!

And Hybrid - can we have those credits, please? That would be awesome!


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-30 19:31:52
Sun Gym, I'm A Doer, CIA, My Shit Stopped Working'

That's 4 in fact lol...


Adam2015-01-30 20:03:34
Awesome! Thanks so much ;)


JamesT2015-01-31 02:33:19
Hybrid, can you tell me if my fav tracks are SJ....I'm Big, Run Over Him (love this!), Du Bois, Doyle?


Bayhem2017-07-18 13:42:25
Du Bois is definitely Jablonsky. Definitely.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2014-09-18 22:25:55
Anybody got a chronological list of this by chance?

Steve reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-08 01:35:10
correct chronological tracklist anybody?

dark prince reply Replies: 0 || 2014-02-03 02:33:41
My expectations for this score was really little, for the thematic of the movie, the fact of I don't trust completly on Steve Jablonsky, but this score was a surprise for good, isn't an excellent score, but is funny and even cool

Evenstar reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-15 00:59:30
Steve is going to be busy! Steve Jablonsky and Nathan Whitehead have signed on to compose the music for the upcoming TNT original series The Last Ship, produced by Michael Bay!

Evenstar reply Replies: 2 || 2013-11-13 22:21:16
Jablonsky talkes about Lone Survivor
youtube.com/watch?v=w4nUbQvVL6g


Ds2013-11-14 06:54:26
Awesome, i didn't know he was part of that project! Thanks for sharing!

Btw there's a very small cue playing at lonesurvivorfilm.com, it might be some of Jablonsky's music.


marty2013-11-14 16:11:41
thank you!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 13 || 2013-04-26 22:54:08
I didn't really expect anything from that score but... it's really great for those liking electro stuff like Tron, Oblivion or TF3...

Some very very cool highlights =>

I'm Big / I Believe In Fitness (the same theme)
Definitely Guys
Run Him Over (:O)
Doyle

Excellent stuff ! :)


Ds2013-04-27 00:22:30
Hybrid, how did you listen to it? If i'm not wrong you're not living in the US... I'm searching for it everywhere but can't find it.


Everan2013-04-27 17:52:37
I love both synth music and orchestral music, and this one is one great synth soundtrack, it gives emotion and synths usually don't. Really enjoying this one, reminds me of Mass Effect sometimes.

Worth a listen if you like synths and Jablonsky score, if you don't like synths, don't expect any big stuff like in previous scores of Steve.


Ds2013-04-27 19:16:38
Agree. This is classy music, i'm sure it complements perfectly Michael Bay's strong visual style. Makes me want to watch the movie... unfortunately it's not out before August in Europe :'(


Trent Easton Navarro2013-04-27 19:36:50
Wasn't really sure what to expect from this one. But just listened to it and I really dig it. Jablonsky's best in quite some time


MrZimmerFan2013-04-27 19:39:55
I really like this score by Steve, not masterpice, but very cool


Tunerline2013-05-04 14:18:19
Du Bois is goood track!!!!


Mr Motivator2013-05-04 17:24:29
Piss poor effort from jablonsky. I was expecting him to at least make an effort of something new unlike to two transformer sequels he composed. C'mon steve your better than this!


al bundy2013-05-04 18:34:17
maybe michael bay didn't want anything better


Ds2013-05-04 19:28:33
Sorry guys but this is a small movie, what were you expecting? A bombastic epic score? Imo Jablonsky did exactly what the movie needed: a modern ambient score that's at times very cool almost hip-hop, at times angry and savage.


Mr motivator2013-05-04 20:52:51
@al bundy. That's exactly why all of his movies have got worse since ''the rock'



MrZimmerFan2013-05-07 13:30:50
You mean The Island, Transformers or Armageddon sucks?!, wtf


Mr motivator2013-05-09 01:07:30
Well.....yeah. His films may have the action value but c'mon they are as poor as a bum.


Guitwo2013-09-13 00:06:24
I'm big is about to be the next theme for any movie trailers ;)

run over him is freaking awesome. I like buckle up too. halfway through the album, it's really great.

the movie itself is really funny, crazy frankly one of the best movie from Bay (and i'm a disappointed, "old" fan of MB -Bad Boys 1 and The Rock are amazing).

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-17 05:59:38
Anyone who has seen the film, can you provide the tracklist in chronological order?

OKKU reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-08 10:11:54
Only electronic music....


Everan2013-05-08 22:18:33
Low budget film, low budget for score. Jablonsky managed to work around it and make something nice, maybe not perfect but it really is nice.

Evenstar reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-26 21:53:42
A lot of synthie in this score... not sure if I like this but I expected more. Got it from iTunes btw.


Evenstar2013-04-28 11:23:04
Ok after listening a couple times, also with my headphones, I like it more. Steve put a lot of small, tiny synthie sounds in every track (most of them you can only hear with headphones). Although it's just synthie, Steve did a good job to do the best he could. Track "Doyle" really got me :)

ps: Some sounds remain me to Harry Gregson-Williams.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-27 17:22:39
I truly like this soundtrack. It may not be like the Transformers trilogy, Your Highness, or Gangster Squad... but Steve's composed work isn't all that bad.

Overall: 7 out of 10

JOhnson reply Replies: 9 || 2013-04-24 17:56:28
Cant say I agree with this score. This sounds like every track is the Sam Witwicky cue from Transformers...Its already out on Itunes.

Oh well...Gotta pass on this one.


Ds2013-04-24 18:05:47
I can't disagree more! I listened to the 26 snippets and found it looked very nice and adapted to the tone of the movie. Did you listen to the full album? I can't find it since it's only available in the US...


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 18:14:50
Sam Witwicky tone?, that's no make any sense men


Jeff2013-04-24 22:33:35
Where did you find this on iTunes? I don't see it anywhere.


Ds2013-04-24 23:00:24
US store only...


Jeff2013-04-24 23:09:10
I live in Chicago. I typed in Steve Jablonsky and it doesn't show up in his list of albums. I also typed in "Pain & Gain" and it didn't come up there either.


Ds2013-04-24 23:25:35
Try this: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/pain-gain-music-from-motio n/id640378255


Jeff2013-04-24 23:32:26
Thank you very much. That worked.


Ds2013-04-24 23:39:46
You're welcome. Please tell us what you think about it!


Johnson2013-04-25 07:09:57
Type in Steve Jablonsky and it's further down on the album list...


yes...I find the score to be minimalistic like his Sam Whitwicky cues from the Transformers album.



Mr. Charles reply Replies: 6 || 2013-04-22 22:09:35
Will this be on iTunes any earlier than May 7th? I'd like it before the film opens on Friday...usually that's when an OST is released. I really want this one :(

Does anyone happen to have it yet? Or is there even a tracklist anywhere? Why do I feel like we're gonna get the same treatment as DotM. The film opens in (technically) 3 days (Thursday 10PM screenings is the new midnight) and we have no info. I'd like some info if possible, please! Thanks


JamesT2013-04-23 19:27:19
Varese says digital release by next Tuesday, perhaps sooner :)


Ds2013-04-23 21:27:22
Found this in a Pain&Gain review, a little taste of Jablonsky's work:

"The first hour or so of Pain and Gain is incredibly off-putting. (...) The score, by composer Steve Jablonsky, feels like it never ends. Seemingly each and every scene has a constant, almost club-like beat over it, giving the on-screen action an urgency it doesnít really warrant.
(...)
After about an hour or so, Bayís wild visuals and Jablonskyís score sync up with the story, which devolves into a weird, entertaining amalgamation of Pulp Fiction, Very Bad Things and Bad Boys."


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-24 01:19:00
That doesn't sound ultra promising, but it also doesn't really tell us much. I've been disappointed in Jablonsky lately, but we'll just have to see how this turns out.


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 13:23:34
Is in Itunes, check it


Ds2013-04-24 15:30:46
US iTunes only :(
Samples are cool. I can already say that Jablonsky tried something different :)


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 17:05:50
I hope are better than Mazzaro's Bullet to the Head

Ds reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-13 03:30:03
There's a piece of music playing at the movie official website, this is the intro music of the 1st trailer. I think it can be part of the original score! --> painandgainmovie.com


Mr. Charles2013-04-17 00:36:43
Yes!!! You're right, it's the cue heard in the opening of the trailer! I love this piece, I'm so glad it's part of the score!!

Everan reply Replies: 9 || 2013-04-11 18:25:58
So, no news yet on a release date, or cover, or samples or something? The film ain't that far away.

Really wanna know what he'll do here, he gets more working freedom with Bay so he can do anything he wants.


Everan2013-04-11 18:27:54
Just saw the date, silly me :P


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-11 19:48:37
More working freedom? I'd argue the opposite. It's on the Bay movies that Jablonsky's scores tend to expose a lot of temp track love (Gladiator in The Island, King Arthur and Batman Begins in TF1, Angels and Demons in TF2, The Last Samurai, Inception, The Dark Knight and Mind Heist in TF3...). I like all of those scores but I certainly wouldn't say he was able to do anything he wanted!

Jablonsky tends to do best when he's on movies that have nothing to do with Bay, but still let him stretch his thematic/action muscles: Steamboy, Your Highness and to a lesser extent D-War (although that one still has a lot of temp love from The Last Samurai). Unfortunately he doesn't seem to get many chances to write that kind of thing these days... :/


Ds2013-04-12 00:45:33
But yet Jablonsky is the only one that keeps offering us the classical 2000's Zimmer sound we all loved :)


aldan2013-04-12 06:23:17
It's still the same though, when Jablonsky enters animation business, it features a lot of similarities to those of John Powell's or Harry Gregson Williams's, especially in theirs '98-'01 era style.

His Steamboy score, allthough great, still bears a lot of that resemblance. One can simply hear Powell's Paycheck, Williams's Sinbad, or Powell/Williams's Antz in it, especially that timpani/ drums, and violas progressions. But because i'm a big fan of Powell's, that doesnt disturb me at all.

Jablonsky's Your Highness also bears similarities to Zimmer's Spirit and POTC.



Hybrid Soldier2013-04-12 07:11:28
Well Jablonsky did work on Antz and did a large part of Spirit, and worked on POTC 1... :P


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-12 07:17:13
@Ds, up until a couple of years ago I'd agree with you...he's one of the few that continues to write the good old power anthems! But Battleship and Gears of War: Judgment seem to indicate he's veering away from that mold into something a lot more electronic and noisy and sound-design-based, and I really hope he doesn't keep going in that direction.

@aldan, I do agree with you about the Powell/Gregson-Williams comparisons, but if you're going to imitate anyone in MV/RC, those two are a really good place to start, so I'm not the least bit disturbed either! :)


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2013-04-12 10:17:31
@Edmund

Certain article from Variety says Jablonsky no recives no indication about his scores with Bay, temp-tracking? i don't think so.

And working with Berg, he imposed in that style Battleship


Trent Easton Navarro2013-04-12 19:28:27
@MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)

So how would you explain that "It's Our Fight" sounds very similar to Mind Heist? Or "My Name Is Lincoln" and "Now We Are Free"? (to name just a few examples)


Ds2013-04-12 23:02:21
Hybrid, do you know if Jablonsky will score the next Peter Berg movie (Lone Survivor)?

MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain) reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-07 12:13:58
I know it... jejejeje


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-07 14:59:59
That Spanish laughing cracks me up. Jejejejejejejejejeje


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2013-03-08 21:23:15
Wtf?


Evenstar2013-03-08 21:40:16
Me too Edmund ;-)

btw. I'm very curious about this score!

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