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I'd love to see Hans do another historical epic, for the record. I'm sure he'd say he's moved on from that sound, but personally, I miss it. That being said, Harry Gregson-Williams did good work here. Even if he then copied and pasted whole sections for Narnia. lol.Music editors loved their Gladiator temp too muchWhat was the reason of their swap? Why did Hans Zimmer quit Kigdom of HeavenHybrid wrote somewhere here that something happened between Streitenfeld and Ridley during Prometheus,and that was why HG-W was brought on for some rescoringI was wondering about this too. Like all of a sudden, after a couple of Ridley Scott collaborations, he disappeared.
Streitenfeld's score for "All I See Is You" isn't added to this site. Does it mean, that Marc left the company?Extremely pleased with the release, remastering, and liner booklet notes.  Nice to finally have all of this music.  Sure, some things could have been done differently, like anything else.  I'll be enjoying a thorough listen this weekend, and may watch the film again, as it's been years.Jasha just released a neat little piano album!<br>Go check it out: https://itunes.apple .com/no/album/time-lapse-ep/1452867752My only real gripes left with the score is the somewhat uninspired choral writing (and the fact that the choir sounds like samples in a lot of moments) and the reused percussion samples from every JXL action score ever since Mad Max.After repeated listens of the score and seeing the film 3 times, I'd say now that the score is MUCH better than I initially gave it credit for.<br>Alita's theme (the 4 notes first heard at 1:53 in A Discovery) is used many times throughout the score in many instrumental varieties and variations, and used to great effect in emotional scenes<br>(I Don't Even Know My Own Name, What's Your Dream?, In Time You'll Remember, With Me, I'd Give You My Heart, What Did You Do), In the Clouds especially)<br>And do yourself a favor and get I See Church from somewhere, it's the 2nd best action track of the score after Motorball.<br>--------------------<br>In short, I would now give it a 4.5 / 5 from my previous 3 / 5
Hybrid, what's the story with Finale vs. Safe Now? On this page Finale is listed as Jackman and Zimmer. On the OST page, it's Jackman, Zimmer, & Jasha Klebe. The two versions are different too. Finale has a longer intro and a big outro that makes the Time thing even more obvious. So are they two different tracks with different credits, or is Safe Now just Finale clipped short?Oh man, that's a tough question...I haven't listened to Curse of the Black Pearl in a while.... He's credited on almost every track for themes used... "Fog Bound" is the big Klaus Badelt cue from that movie (the real, 5-minute one in the movie is pretty much all Klaus I believe). <br><br>But Hans appears almost everywhere in POTC 1. Sometimes it's arrangements of his themes by the other guys, sometimes it's parts of the tunes that he wrote put directly in like he wrote them... The following scenes are pretty much directly Hans, if I remember right (this is the list I'm referencing ó but as you can see, Zimmer's name is almost everywhere hans-zimmer . com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1128): <br><br>3. Captain Jack Sparrow (Hans wrote the big theme here, as well as the Jack Sparrow stuff at the end)<br>8. Breaking the Chains (more Jack Sparrow theme...) <br>17. Boarding the Dauntless (Jack Sparrow theme...)<br>24. Moonlight Serenade (Zimmer said he wrote this scene like Cinderella walking into a Metallica concert)<br> <br>Aaaaand a lot of the final fighting music is lifted directly out of the suite Zimmer wrote, so it's 90% him. But once again, his themes as arranged by other people appear everywhere. Hybrid can answer way more about all this than I can.<br>Oh wow! Thatís all really interesting. So how much of the OST is really HAnS Zimmer then???Hans was composing The Last Samurai while the first POTC was being made. He had promised Tom Cruise and Edward Zwick (might have even signed a contract) that he would only work on The Last Samurai and no other movies at that time. So while Hans agreed to write the POTC themes for Gore Verbinski, he wasn't allowed to be credited due to his obligations to the Last Samurai. So he wrote a few themes and then handed the score off to Klaus Badelt, who got the "name" credit on the score. But the whole score is really Klaus, Geoff Zanelli, Nick Glennie Smith, Ramin Djawadi, and a few others doing arrangements of the theme that Hans wrote (and Hans writing for a couple scenes incognito, like when Elizabeth first sees the skeleton pirates). Then Klaus did do the dark "Fog Bound/Underwater March" tune, as mentioned.Canít insult me! I am genuinely curious. Whatís this about The Last Samurai???
I'm not saying this to insult David, but it's funny to me that even now, 16 years later, after so many clarifications from HZ and others, people still get confused because of the way POTC 1 got credited. All because Hans had to work on The Last Samurai (which is one of my favorite scores of his, so I guess it was worth the confusion).Saw the film last sunday and loved it. Also loved what Tom Holkenborg did hear. It did not felt nor 300. RoE nor Mad MAx. It's something else and loved it how it worked in context.he is working on the new Terminator movie?! :OCredits for Dua Lipa's single "Swan Song" for the movie:<br>Written by Dua Lipa, Justin Tranter, Kennedi Lykken, Mattias Larsson, Robin Fredriksson & Tom Holkenborg<br>Produced by Mattman & RobinMy definition of a Complete score is somewhat different. My goal is to find and mix everything you hear in the movie. Some things you find, others you don't. That's always an adventure in itself.<br><br>The source cues are not hard to find, sometimes it can be tricky to find the right performance/conductor.<br><br>In the case of TTRL, it's mostly the Beam cues that are difficult to find. Francesco Lupica wrote several pieces of Beam cues specifically for the movie, 5 of them which were used. There's also the 'Concerto for Beam' written by Powell, and there's the 'Sit back & Relax' album that was used. So to me, that's a pretty substantial (and important!) amount of music  that made it into the cut, which hardly anyone ever talks about.<br><br>Anyway, maybe a future project will tackle most of these issues.
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Steve JablonskyClay DuncanJeff BiggersJon Aschalew
ComposerAmbient Music DesignMusic Scoring MixerSynth Programmer
Pain & Gain
Label: Varese Sarabande
Length: 66'11
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  1. I'm Big (2:20)
  2. Sun Gym (2:02)
  3. Definitely Guys (1:57)
  4. I'm A Doer (2:26)
  5. I Got Saved (1:19)
  6. Wrong Car (1:16)
  7. Taser (1:36)
  8. Cologne (2:18)
  9. I'm Gonna Tell Jesus (4:04)
  10. Buckle Up (2:09)
  11. Run Him Over (3:27)
  12. Catching Bad Guys (1:31)
  13. I Work Hard (3:45)
  14. Get A Pump (1:38)
  15. Sometimes You Gotta Run (1:24)
  16. Difficult Victim (0:59)
  17. 14 Minutes (2:49)
  18. I Believe In Fitness (2:24)
  19. Supermen (3:32)
  20. So Buff (3:06)
  21. Sacred Trust (3:30)
  22. Du Bois (3:26)
  23. CIA (1:43)
  24. My Sh*t Stopped Workin' (3:59)
  25. Toe (2:00)
  26. Doyle (5:31)
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Bayhem reply Replies: 0 || 2017-07-18 13:47:04
I really do consider this to be one of the most unusual (in a good way) and original MV/RC scores. Don't even recall any tracks that successfully suggest that this is MV/RC. My opinion, of course. I wonder if some of you peeps feel the same. And I admit, I'm not the biggest fan of too much electronics and experimentation, but in this case it actually works. It's a very contained score with some exceptional tracks. 14 Minutes is a personal favorite.

Evenstar reply Replies: 6 || 2015-01-30 08:51:05
Supermen was written by Clay Duncan. Clay just told on his facebook page.


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-30 19:01:16
And I know about 5 tracks that were written Jon Aschalew... :P


Adam2015-01-30 19:16:58
Thanks for letting us know that, Evenstar!

And Hybrid - can we have those credits, please? That would be awesome!


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-30 19:31:52
Sun Gym, I'm A Doer, CIA, My Shit Stopped Working'

That's 4 in fact lol...


Adam2015-01-30 20:03:34
Awesome! Thanks so much ;)


JamesT2015-01-31 02:33:19
Hybrid, can you tell me if my fav tracks are SJ....I'm Big, Run Over Him (love this!), Du Bois, Doyle?


Bayhem2017-07-18 13:42:25
Du Bois is definitely Jablonsky. Definitely.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2014-09-18 22:25:55
Anybody got a chronological list of this by chance?

Steve reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-08 01:35:10
correct chronological tracklist anybody?

dark prince reply Replies: 0 || 2014-02-03 02:33:41
My expectations for this score was really little, for the thematic of the movie, the fact of I don't trust completly on Steve Jablonsky, but this score was a surprise for good, isn't an excellent score, but is funny and even cool

Evenstar reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-15 00:59:30
Steve is going to be busy! Steve Jablonsky and Nathan Whitehead have signed on to compose the music for the upcoming TNT original series The Last Ship, produced by Michael Bay!

Evenstar reply Replies: 2 || 2013-11-13 22:21:16
Jablonsky talkes about Lone Survivor
youtube.com/watch?v=w4nUbQvVL6g


Ds2013-11-14 06:54:26
Awesome, i didn't know he was part of that project! Thanks for sharing!

Btw there's a very small cue playing at lonesurvivorfilm.com, it might be some of Jablonsky's music.


marty2013-11-14 16:11:41
thank you!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 13 || 2013-04-26 22:54:08
I didn't really expect anything from that score but... it's really great for those liking electro stuff like Tron, Oblivion or TF3...

Some very very cool highlights =>

I'm Big / I Believe In Fitness (the same theme)
Definitely Guys
Run Him Over (:O)
Doyle

Excellent stuff ! :)


Ds2013-04-27 00:22:30
Hybrid, how did you listen to it? If i'm not wrong you're not living in the US... I'm searching for it everywhere but can't find it.


Everan2013-04-27 17:52:37
I love both synth music and orchestral music, and this one is one great synth soundtrack, it gives emotion and synths usually don't. Really enjoying this one, reminds me of Mass Effect sometimes.

Worth a listen if you like synths and Jablonsky score, if you don't like synths, don't expect any big stuff like in previous scores of Steve.


Ds2013-04-27 19:16:38
Agree. This is classy music, i'm sure it complements perfectly Michael Bay's strong visual style. Makes me want to watch the movie... unfortunately it's not out before August in Europe :'(


Trent Easton Navarro2013-04-27 19:36:50
Wasn't really sure what to expect from this one. But just listened to it and I really dig it. Jablonsky's best in quite some time


MrZimmerFan2013-04-27 19:39:55
I really like this score by Steve, not masterpice, but very cool


Tunerline2013-05-04 14:18:19
Du Bois is goood track!!!!


Mr Motivator2013-05-04 17:24:29
Piss poor effort from jablonsky. I was expecting him to at least make an effort of something new unlike to two transformer sequels he composed. C'mon steve your better than this!


al bundy2013-05-04 18:34:17
maybe michael bay didn't want anything better


Ds2013-05-04 19:28:33
Sorry guys but this is a small movie, what were you expecting? A bombastic epic score? Imo Jablonsky did exactly what the movie needed: a modern ambient score that's at times very cool almost hip-hop, at times angry and savage.


Mr motivator2013-05-04 20:52:51
@al bundy. That's exactly why all of his movies have got worse since ''the rock'



MrZimmerFan2013-05-07 13:30:50
You mean The Island, Transformers or Armageddon sucks?!, wtf


Mr motivator2013-05-09 01:07:30
Well.....yeah. His films may have the action value but c'mon they are as poor as a bum.


Guitwo2013-09-13 00:06:24
I'm big is about to be the next theme for any movie trailers ;)

run over him is freaking awesome. I like buckle up too. halfway through the album, it's really great.

the movie itself is really funny, crazy frankly one of the best movie from Bay (and i'm a disappointed, "old" fan of MB -Bad Boys 1 and The Rock are amazing).

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-17 05:59:38
Anyone who has seen the film, can you provide the tracklist in chronological order?

OKKU reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-08 10:11:54
Only electronic music....


Everan2013-05-08 22:18:33
Low budget film, low budget for score. Jablonsky managed to work around it and make something nice, maybe not perfect but it really is nice.

Evenstar reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-26 21:53:42
A lot of synthie in this score... not sure if I like this but I expected more. Got it from iTunes btw.


Evenstar2013-04-28 11:23:04
Ok after listening a couple times, also with my headphones, I like it more. Steve put a lot of small, tiny synthie sounds in every track (most of them you can only hear with headphones). Although it's just synthie, Steve did a good job to do the best he could. Track "Doyle" really got me :)

ps: Some sounds remain me to Harry Gregson-Williams.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-27 17:22:39
I truly like this soundtrack. It may not be like the Transformers trilogy, Your Highness, or Gangster Squad... but Steve's composed work isn't all that bad.

Overall: 7 out of 10

JOhnson reply Replies: 9 || 2013-04-24 17:56:28
Cant say I agree with this score. This sounds like every track is the Sam Witwicky cue from Transformers...Its already out on Itunes.

Oh well...Gotta pass on this one.


Ds2013-04-24 18:05:47
I can't disagree more! I listened to the 26 snippets and found it looked very nice and adapted to the tone of the movie. Did you listen to the full album? I can't find it since it's only available in the US...


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 18:14:50
Sam Witwicky tone?, that's no make any sense men


Jeff2013-04-24 22:33:35
Where did you find this on iTunes? I don't see it anywhere.


Ds2013-04-24 23:00:24
US store only...


Jeff2013-04-24 23:09:10
I live in Chicago. I typed in Steve Jablonsky and it doesn't show up in his list of albums. I also typed in "Pain & Gain" and it didn't come up there either.


Ds2013-04-24 23:25:35
Try this: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/pain-gain-music-from-motio n/id640378255


Jeff2013-04-24 23:32:26
Thank you very much. That worked.


Ds2013-04-24 23:39:46
You're welcome. Please tell us what you think about it!


Johnson2013-04-25 07:09:57
Type in Steve Jablonsky and it's further down on the album list...


yes...I find the score to be minimalistic like his Sam Whitwicky cues from the Transformers album.



Mr. Charles reply Replies: 6 || 2013-04-22 22:09:35
Will this be on iTunes any earlier than May 7th? I'd like it before the film opens on Friday...usually that's when an OST is released. I really want this one :(

Does anyone happen to have it yet? Or is there even a tracklist anywhere? Why do I feel like we're gonna get the same treatment as DotM. The film opens in (technically) 3 days (Thursday 10PM screenings is the new midnight) and we have no info. I'd like some info if possible, please! Thanks


JamesT2013-04-23 19:27:19
Varese says digital release by next Tuesday, perhaps sooner :)


Ds2013-04-23 21:27:22
Found this in a Pain&Gain review, a little taste of Jablonsky's work:

"The first hour or so of Pain and Gain is incredibly off-putting. (...) The score, by composer Steve Jablonsky, feels like it never ends. Seemingly each and every scene has a constant, almost club-like beat over it, giving the on-screen action an urgency it doesnít really warrant.
(...)
After about an hour or so, Bayís wild visuals and Jablonskyís score sync up with the story, which devolves into a weird, entertaining amalgamation of Pulp Fiction, Very Bad Things and Bad Boys."


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-24 01:19:00
That doesn't sound ultra promising, but it also doesn't really tell us much. I've been disappointed in Jablonsky lately, but we'll just have to see how this turns out.


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 13:23:34
Is in Itunes, check it


Ds2013-04-24 15:30:46
US iTunes only :(
Samples are cool. I can already say that Jablonsky tried something different :)


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 17:05:50
I hope are better than Mazzaro's Bullet to the Head

Ds reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-13 03:30:03
There's a piece of music playing at the movie official website, this is the intro music of the 1st trailer. I think it can be part of the original score! --> painandgainmovie.com


Mr. Charles2013-04-17 00:36:43
Yes!!! You're right, it's the cue heard in the opening of the trailer! I love this piece, I'm so glad it's part of the score!!

Everan reply Replies: 9 || 2013-04-11 18:25:58
So, no news yet on a release date, or cover, or samples or something? The film ain't that far away.

Really wanna know what he'll do here, he gets more working freedom with Bay so he can do anything he wants.


Everan2013-04-11 18:27:54
Just saw the date, silly me :P


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-11 19:48:37
More working freedom? I'd argue the opposite. It's on the Bay movies that Jablonsky's scores tend to expose a lot of temp track love (Gladiator in The Island, King Arthur and Batman Begins in TF1, Angels and Demons in TF2, The Last Samurai, Inception, The Dark Knight and Mind Heist in TF3...). I like all of those scores but I certainly wouldn't say he was able to do anything he wanted!

Jablonsky tends to do best when he's on movies that have nothing to do with Bay, but still let him stretch his thematic/action muscles: Steamboy, Your Highness and to a lesser extent D-War (although that one still has a lot of temp love from The Last Samurai). Unfortunately he doesn't seem to get many chances to write that kind of thing these days... :/


Ds2013-04-12 00:45:33
But yet Jablonsky is the only one that keeps offering us the classical 2000's Zimmer sound we all loved :)


aldan2013-04-12 06:23:17
It's still the same though, when Jablonsky enters animation business, it features a lot of similarities to those of John Powell's or Harry Gregson Williams's, especially in theirs '98-'01 era style.

His Steamboy score, allthough great, still bears a lot of that resemblance. One can simply hear Powell's Paycheck, Williams's Sinbad, or Powell/Williams's Antz in it, especially that timpani/ drums, and violas progressions. But because i'm a big fan of Powell's, that doesnt disturb me at all.

Jablonsky's Your Highness also bears similarities to Zimmer's Spirit and POTC.



Hybrid Soldier2013-04-12 07:11:28
Well Jablonsky did work on Antz and did a large part of Spirit, and worked on POTC 1... :P


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-12 07:17:13
@Ds, up until a couple of years ago I'd agree with you...he's one of the few that continues to write the good old power anthems! But Battleship and Gears of War: Judgment seem to indicate he's veering away from that mold into something a lot more electronic and noisy and sound-design-based, and I really hope he doesn't keep going in that direction.

@aldan, I do agree with you about the Powell/Gregson-Williams comparisons, but if you're going to imitate anyone in MV/RC, those two are a really good place to start, so I'm not the least bit disturbed either! :)


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2013-04-12 10:17:31
@Edmund

Certain article from Variety says Jablonsky no recives no indication about his scores with Bay, temp-tracking? i don't think so.

And working with Berg, he imposed in that style Battleship


Trent Easton Navarro2013-04-12 19:28:27
@MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)

So how would you explain that "It's Our Fight" sounds very similar to Mind Heist? Or "My Name Is Lincoln" and "Now We Are Free"? (to name just a few examples)


Ds2013-04-12 23:02:21
Hybrid, do you know if Jablonsky will score the next Peter Berg movie (Lone Survivor)?

MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain) reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-07 12:13:58
I know it... jejejeje


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-07 14:59:59
That Spanish laughing cracks me up. Jejejejejejejejejeje


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2013-03-08 21:23:15
Wtf?


Evenstar2013-03-08 21:40:16
Me too Edmund ;-)

btw. I'm very curious about this score!

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