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Are you sure Jackmans been removing the electronics from his music, or just from his albums?<br><br>Civil War was noticeably different, if you compare the OST to what you heard in the movie.Hybrid said there was some sort of legal issue that came up which prevented use of the samples or something like that.Eh, Shore is a smart composer. He could make it work. I guess whether that's what studios think audiences want is another question entirely...Is it me or are none of the soundtracks on the website showing the sample tracks that you could listen to anymore?Have you heard that Henry Jackman will composing his music for the upcoming 2019 picture called Pokemon: Detective Pikachu?  I wonder what the film soundtrack would sound like.  Hmm...
I think that Howard´s style of music doesn´t really fit to the post apocalyptic genreFor a Peter Jackson production I was expecting Howard Shore.I listened to the score and is one of the most entertaining scores of this year. It's great to see the main theme return but there are a lot of new elements to enjoy and discover here. There were parts that kind of reminded me of Incredibles 2, like the begining of Shank. And tracks like Vanellope's March or Big Strong Man In Need of Rescue are just pure fun.<br><br>Really great score!I was this tracklist for a 3rd cd floating around, is this legit ?<br><br><br>Disc 1  <br>1.  Planet Earth II Suite  <br>2.  The Sloth<br>3.  Home To Dragons<br>4.  Albatross Dance<br>5.  Racer Snakes vs Iguanas<br>6.  Chinstrap Penguins<br>7.  Singing Indri<br>8.  Competing Hummingbirds<br>9.  Life In The Canopy<br>10. Jungle Weather<br>11. Night Crawlers<br>12. World of Bioluminescence<br>13. Wilson's Bird-of-Paradise<br>14. Something Worth Protecting<br>15. Life Without Water<br>16. Monsoon Deserts/Canyonlands<br>17. Lions vs Giraffe<br>18. The Butcher Bird<br>19. Wild Horses<br>20. Desert Nightlife/Golden Mole<br>21. Long-Eared Bat vs Scorpion<br>22. Early Morning Fog<br><br>Disc 2 <br>1.  Roof Of The World<br>2.  Peaks of North America<br>3.  The Ibex<br>4.  The Himalayas<br>5.  Flight Over Alps<br>6.  Ice Skating Flamingos<br>7.  Dancing Bears<br>8.  Tenacious Bobcat<br>9.  Garden of Ice<br>10. Snow Leopards<br>11. Savage Beauty<br>12. Nomadic Life<br>13. Hunting Buffalo Herds<br>14. The Okavango<br>15. Carmine Bee Eaters<br>16. Industrious Insects<br>17. The Great Migration<br>18. The Unnatural Habitat<br>19. Langurs of Jodhpur<br>20. Temple Gardens<br>21. Market Thieves<br>22. Illuminated<br>23. City Skylines<br>24. Starlings<br>25. Toronto Raccoons<br>26. We Are The Designers<br>27. Epilogue<br><br>Disc 3<br>1. Harvest Mouse<br>2. Jumping Widowbirds<br>3. The Red Fox<br>4. Cacti<br>5. Harris Hawks<br>6. Draco Lizard<br>7. Glass Frog vs Wasp<br>8. Galapagos<br>9.  Zavodovski Island<br>10. The Great Bower Bird  <br>11. Wels Catfish    <br>12. Frozen NightAbout his studio at RCP, is it rental or he owns the stuff? What happens to the gear when he is not around?
That is probably the fairest thing anyone on this website will say about Clemmensen. :P@Anonymous<br><br>Christian Clemmensen believes that Hans Zimmer found his definitive voice back in the 1990s with scores such as Driving Miss Daisy, Rain Man, Crimson Tide, and Lion King. However, he has in reviews of later scores compared Zimmer's overly obvious chord progressions and masculinity with what the "rock ballad" did to rock-n'roll music of the '70s. To him, it's overly powerful, unsubtle, and aggressive music that appeals to the gut more than the heart or the mind. Some of Zimmer's most popular scores such as Gladiator, Pirates, and The Dark Knight he has given middling reviews for because the general sound is derivative from his earlier works, not colorful, and not creative. He also accuses Zimmer of starting a trend with overly-recycled, bombastic, masculine action music that's big on density and power and low on subtlety and personality. <br><br>I can definitely see where he's coming from, one cannot deny the similarities between Crimson Tide, Lion King, Gladiator, Pirates, Dark Knight and so forth. One also cannot deny that scores such as Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049 qualify more as sound design than actual symphonic music (mostly). However, if he had his way, every film score would be shamelessly optimistic and flighty, all major chords (and occasionally alternating off-key), with prominent woodwinds and metallic percussion. He definitely knows what he's talking about, but he has an ideal image for film music in mind, and that very much comes through in his Zimmer reviews, some of which I think deserve much more credit than he offered (Pirates 3, Da Vinci Code, and Gladiator come to mind).a more orchestral fury roadTom is gonna score Mortal Engines<br>What kind of sound do you expect?He has a studio at RCP but mostly work from his own home studio. His business is "Sacred Tiger Music."<br>
Does Henry actually work for HZ at RCP or does he have his own film score company now like HGW?Why filmtracks always behave very Aggressive about hans zimmer and always trys to make his scores worthless ??!! Its odd for meAw Hell...<br><br>I guess it never did freeze over.Sorry, I should've been more specific. This is a comment I had originally posted on the Filmtracks forum, NOT from a Christian Clemmensen review. My bad.Referring to the previous comment (how did it not reply to the the previous message?)
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Steve JablonskyClay DuncanJeff BiggersJon Aschalew
ComposerAmbient Music DesignMusic Scoring MixerSynth Programmer
Pain & Gain
Label: Varese Sarabande
Length: 66'11
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  1. I'm Big (2:20)
  2. Sun Gym (2:02)
  3. Definitely Guys (1:57)
  4. I'm A Doer (2:26)
  5. I Got Saved (1:19)
  6. Wrong Car (1:16)
  7. Taser (1:36)
  8. Cologne (2:18)
  9. I'm Gonna Tell Jesus (4:04)
  10. Buckle Up (2:09)
  11. Run Him Over (3:27)
  12. Catching Bad Guys (1:31)
  13. I Work Hard (3:45)
  14. Get A Pump (1:38)
  15. Sometimes You Gotta Run (1:24)
  16. Difficult Victim (0:59)
  17. 14 Minutes (2:49)
  18. I Believe In Fitness (2:24)
  19. Supermen (3:32)
  20. So Buff (3:06)
  21. Sacred Trust (3:30)
  22. Du Bois (3:26)
  23. CIA (1:43)
  24. My Sh*t Stopped Workin' (3:59)
  25. Toe (2:00)
  26. Doyle (5:31)
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Bayhem reply Replies: 0 || 2017-07-18 13:47:04
I really do consider this to be one of the most unusual (in a good way) and original MV/RC scores. Don't even recall any tracks that successfully suggest that this is MV/RC. My opinion, of course. I wonder if some of you peeps feel the same. And I admit, I'm not the biggest fan of too much electronics and experimentation, but in this case it actually works. It's a very contained score with some exceptional tracks. 14 Minutes is a personal favorite.

Evenstar reply Replies: 6 || 2015-01-30 08:51:05
Supermen was written by Clay Duncan. Clay just told on his facebook page.


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-30 19:01:16
And I know about 5 tracks that were written Jon Aschalew... :P


Adam2015-01-30 19:16:58
Thanks for letting us know that, Evenstar!

And Hybrid - can we have those credits, please? That would be awesome!


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-30 19:31:52
Sun Gym, I'm A Doer, CIA, My Shit Stopped Working'

That's 4 in fact lol...


Adam2015-01-30 20:03:34
Awesome! Thanks so much ;)


JamesT2015-01-31 02:33:19
Hybrid, can you tell me if my fav tracks are SJ....I'm Big, Run Over Him (love this!), Du Bois, Doyle?


Bayhem2017-07-18 13:42:25
Du Bois is definitely Jablonsky. Definitely.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2014-09-18 22:25:55
Anybody got a chronological list of this by chance?

Steve reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-08 01:35:10
correct chronological tracklist anybody?

dark prince reply Replies: 0 || 2014-02-03 02:33:41
My expectations for this score was really little, for the thematic of the movie, the fact of I don't trust completly on Steve Jablonsky, but this score was a surprise for good, isn't an excellent score, but is funny and even cool

Evenstar reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-15 00:59:30
Steve is going to be busy! Steve Jablonsky and Nathan Whitehead have signed on to compose the music for the upcoming TNT original series The Last Ship, produced by Michael Bay!

Evenstar reply Replies: 2 || 2013-11-13 22:21:16
Jablonsky talkes about Lone Survivor
youtube.com/watch?v=w4nUbQvVL6g


Ds2013-11-14 06:54:26
Awesome, i didn't know he was part of that project! Thanks for sharing!

Btw there's a very small cue playing at lonesurvivorfilm.com, it might be some of Jablonsky's music.


marty2013-11-14 16:11:41
thank you!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 13 || 2013-04-26 22:54:08
I didn't really expect anything from that score but... it's really great for those liking electro stuff like Tron, Oblivion or TF3...

Some very very cool highlights =>

I'm Big / I Believe In Fitness (the same theme)
Definitely Guys
Run Him Over (:O)
Doyle

Excellent stuff ! :)


Ds2013-04-27 00:22:30
Hybrid, how did you listen to it? If i'm not wrong you're not living in the US... I'm searching for it everywhere but can't find it.


Everan2013-04-27 17:52:37
I love both synth music and orchestral music, and this one is one great synth soundtrack, it gives emotion and synths usually don't. Really enjoying this one, reminds me of Mass Effect sometimes.

Worth a listen if you like synths and Jablonsky score, if you don't like synths, don't expect any big stuff like in previous scores of Steve.


Ds2013-04-27 19:16:38
Agree. This is classy music, i'm sure it complements perfectly Michael Bay's strong visual style. Makes me want to watch the movie... unfortunately it's not out before August in Europe :'(


Trent Easton Navarro2013-04-27 19:36:50
Wasn't really sure what to expect from this one. But just listened to it and I really dig it. Jablonsky's best in quite some time


MrZimmerFan2013-04-27 19:39:55
I really like this score by Steve, not masterpice, but very cool


Tunerline2013-05-04 14:18:19
Du Bois is goood track!!!!


Mr Motivator2013-05-04 17:24:29
Piss poor effort from jablonsky. I was expecting him to at least make an effort of something new unlike to two transformer sequels he composed. C'mon steve your better than this!


al bundy2013-05-04 18:34:17
maybe michael bay didn't want anything better


Ds2013-05-04 19:28:33
Sorry guys but this is a small movie, what were you expecting? A bombastic epic score? Imo Jablonsky did exactly what the movie needed: a modern ambient score that's at times very cool almost hip-hop, at times angry and savage.


Mr motivator2013-05-04 20:52:51
@al bundy. That's exactly why all of his movies have got worse since ''the rock'



MrZimmerFan2013-05-07 13:30:50
You mean The Island, Transformers or Armageddon sucks?!, wtf


Mr motivator2013-05-09 01:07:30
Well.....yeah. His films may have the action value but c'mon they are as poor as a bum.


Guitwo2013-09-13 00:06:24
I'm big is about to be the next theme for any movie trailers ;)

run over him is freaking awesome. I like buckle up too. halfway through the album, it's really great.

the movie itself is really funny, crazy frankly one of the best movie from Bay (and i'm a disappointed, "old" fan of MB -Bad Boys 1 and The Rock are amazing).

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-17 05:59:38
Anyone who has seen the film, can you provide the tracklist in chronological order?

OKKU reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-08 10:11:54
Only electronic music....


Everan2013-05-08 22:18:33
Low budget film, low budget for score. Jablonsky managed to work around it and make something nice, maybe not perfect but it really is nice.

Evenstar reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-26 21:53:42
A lot of synthie in this score... not sure if I like this but I expected more. Got it from iTunes btw.


Evenstar2013-04-28 11:23:04
Ok after listening a couple times, also with my headphones, I like it more. Steve put a lot of small, tiny synthie sounds in every track (most of them you can only hear with headphones). Although it's just synthie, Steve did a good job to do the best he could. Track "Doyle" really got me :)

ps: Some sounds remain me to Harry Gregson-Williams.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-27 17:22:39
I truly like this soundtrack. It may not be like the Transformers trilogy, Your Highness, or Gangster Squad... but Steve's composed work isn't all that bad.

Overall: 7 out of 10

JOhnson reply Replies: 9 || 2013-04-24 17:56:28
Cant say I agree with this score. This sounds like every track is the Sam Witwicky cue from Transformers...Its already out on Itunes.

Oh well...Gotta pass on this one.


Ds2013-04-24 18:05:47
I can't disagree more! I listened to the 26 snippets and found it looked very nice and adapted to the tone of the movie. Did you listen to the full album? I can't find it since it's only available in the US...


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 18:14:50
Sam Witwicky tone?, that's no make any sense men


Jeff2013-04-24 22:33:35
Where did you find this on iTunes? I don't see it anywhere.


Ds2013-04-24 23:00:24
US store only...


Jeff2013-04-24 23:09:10
I live in Chicago. I typed in Steve Jablonsky and it doesn't show up in his list of albums. I also typed in "Pain & Gain" and it didn't come up there either.


Ds2013-04-24 23:25:35
Try this: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/pain-gain-music-from-motio n/id640378255


Jeff2013-04-24 23:32:26
Thank you very much. That worked.


Ds2013-04-24 23:39:46
You're welcome. Please tell us what you think about it!


Johnson2013-04-25 07:09:57
Type in Steve Jablonsky and it's further down on the album list...


yes...I find the score to be minimalistic like his Sam Whitwicky cues from the Transformers album.



Mr. Charles reply Replies: 6 || 2013-04-22 22:09:35
Will this be on iTunes any earlier than May 7th? I'd like it before the film opens on Friday...usually that's when an OST is released. I really want this one :(

Does anyone happen to have it yet? Or is there even a tracklist anywhere? Why do I feel like we're gonna get the same treatment as DotM. The film opens in (technically) 3 days (Thursday 10PM screenings is the new midnight) and we have no info. I'd like some info if possible, please! Thanks


JamesT2013-04-23 19:27:19
Varese says digital release by next Tuesday, perhaps sooner :)


Ds2013-04-23 21:27:22
Found this in a Pain&Gain review, a little taste of Jablonsky's work:

"The first hour or so of Pain and Gain is incredibly off-putting. (...) The score, by composer Steve Jablonsky, feels like it never ends. Seemingly each and every scene has a constant, almost club-like beat over it, giving the on-screen action an urgency it doesn’t really warrant.
(...)
After about an hour or so, Bay’s wild visuals and Jablonsky’s score sync up with the story, which devolves into a weird, entertaining amalgamation of Pulp Fiction, Very Bad Things and Bad Boys."


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-24 01:19:00
That doesn't sound ultra promising, but it also doesn't really tell us much. I've been disappointed in Jablonsky lately, but we'll just have to see how this turns out.


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 13:23:34
Is in Itunes, check it


Ds2013-04-24 15:30:46
US iTunes only :(
Samples are cool. I can already say that Jablonsky tried something different :)


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 17:05:50
I hope are better than Mazzaro's Bullet to the Head

Ds reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-13 03:30:03
There's a piece of music playing at the movie official website, this is the intro music of the 1st trailer. I think it can be part of the original score! --> painandgainmovie.com


Mr. Charles2013-04-17 00:36:43
Yes!!! You're right, it's the cue heard in the opening of the trailer! I love this piece, I'm so glad it's part of the score!!

Everan reply Replies: 9 || 2013-04-11 18:25:58
So, no news yet on a release date, or cover, or samples or something? The film ain't that far away.

Really wanna know what he'll do here, he gets more working freedom with Bay so he can do anything he wants.


Everan2013-04-11 18:27:54
Just saw the date, silly me :P


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-11 19:48:37
More working freedom? I'd argue the opposite. It's on the Bay movies that Jablonsky's scores tend to expose a lot of temp track love (Gladiator in The Island, King Arthur and Batman Begins in TF1, Angels and Demons in TF2, The Last Samurai, Inception, The Dark Knight and Mind Heist in TF3...). I like all of those scores but I certainly wouldn't say he was able to do anything he wanted!

Jablonsky tends to do best when he's on movies that have nothing to do with Bay, but still let him stretch his thematic/action muscles: Steamboy, Your Highness and to a lesser extent D-War (although that one still has a lot of temp love from The Last Samurai). Unfortunately he doesn't seem to get many chances to write that kind of thing these days... :/


Ds2013-04-12 00:45:33
But yet Jablonsky is the only one that keeps offering us the classical 2000's Zimmer sound we all loved :)


aldan2013-04-12 06:23:17
It's still the same though, when Jablonsky enters animation business, it features a lot of similarities to those of John Powell's or Harry Gregson Williams's, especially in theirs '98-'01 era style.

His Steamboy score, allthough great, still bears a lot of that resemblance. One can simply hear Powell's Paycheck, Williams's Sinbad, or Powell/Williams's Antz in it, especially that timpani/ drums, and violas progressions. But because i'm a big fan of Powell's, that doesnt disturb me at all.

Jablonsky's Your Highness also bears similarities to Zimmer's Spirit and POTC.



Hybrid Soldier2013-04-12 07:11:28
Well Jablonsky did work on Antz and did a large part of Spirit, and worked on POTC 1... :P


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-12 07:17:13
@Ds, up until a couple of years ago I'd agree with you...he's one of the few that continues to write the good old power anthems! But Battleship and Gears of War: Judgment seem to indicate he's veering away from that mold into something a lot more electronic and noisy and sound-design-based, and I really hope he doesn't keep going in that direction.

@aldan, I do agree with you about the Powell/Gregson-Williams comparisons, but if you're going to imitate anyone in MV/RC, those two are a really good place to start, so I'm not the least bit disturbed either! :)


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2013-04-12 10:17:31
@Edmund

Certain article from Variety says Jablonsky no recives no indication about his scores with Bay, temp-tracking? i don't think so.

And working with Berg, he imposed in that style Battleship


Trent Easton Navarro2013-04-12 19:28:27
@MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)

So how would you explain that "It's Our Fight" sounds very similar to Mind Heist? Or "My Name Is Lincoln" and "Now We Are Free"? (to name just a few examples)


Ds2013-04-12 23:02:21
Hybrid, do you know if Jablonsky will score the next Peter Berg movie (Lone Survivor)?

MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain) reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-07 12:13:58
I know it... jejejeje


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-07 14:59:59
That Spanish laughing cracks me up. Jejejejejejejejejeje


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2013-03-08 21:23:15
Wtf?


Evenstar2013-03-08 21:40:16
Me too Edmund ;-)

btw. I'm very curious about this score!

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