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Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.<br>I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.<br><br>Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on albumI can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfe’s part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesn’t seem to represent that for some reason.I really liked Richter’s score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.
Richter did his recording in january and june 2019. The Director himself is a fan of Richter, so the deadline and director are not the reason.<br>It seemed that producers were not satisfied with Richter's music and they wanted something new, that's why they got Lorne. It turned out Lorne brought a very limited new...@Cercei<br>Hybrid can definitely answer that best. Richter’s score is used (alongside Balfe’s material) as well as some source pieces. If I remember correctly it’s a mish-mash of the two.I do know that piece, it’s very pretty. I’ll check out his other works, thanks for the recommendation. In terms of minimalism I really am into Brian Eno at the moment. His “Music For Airports” and “The Lovely Bones” are excellent if you like more introspective music.btw, you're saying Lorne recomposed and reworked the entire score. as i haven't seen the movie yet, did the producers end up with not using richters score for it at all and just used the score from Lorne?thanks for your information. but i actually don't understand why they have done that. i've heard now Lornes cues and Richters cues. all those cues from Lorne, they sound very similiar to that what Richter composed, but somehow with less melodies. And you really have to work hard to not use fewer melodies then Richter, as he's a minimalist at its best ^^ with that being said, i can't hear any groundbreaking differences from Lornes part, so what was their idea on hiring it and getting the same style of music, but in a more "light" version? :/
i really admire Max Richters work, he isn't that new in this scene. his style is that repeating minimalism. maybe you've heard once the cue "on the nature of daylight" which was used a lot by many other movies. his last score which knocked me out was "Hostiles". such an emotional and intense score, you need to hear that, and probably see the movie as well (with Christian Bale). <br><br>Really surprised at this album, I’ve never really heard anything from Max Richter but I really like what he ended up writing for this score. It surprisingly flows well for a stand alone listen. It’s funny that the producers wanted a different approach, I think Richter nailed it.<br><br>Balfe’s contribution is excellent as well, I particularly like that repeating chord progression (which is starting to become one of his trademarks considering how many times he has used it). It’s disappointing that they didn’t include more of his contribution though, since he apparently rewrote the entire score.Lorne said in his Twitter, the first album for His Dark Materials come 3rd November, no date, for the moment, for the second album.Was the producersi haven't understood the fact, that Lorne was involved in this. Can someone explain it for me? Was the director not satisfied with Richters music? Was the deadline too near? Or what was the reason why they have brought Lorne to this project?
"The Wanderer", "Event Horizon", "You Have To Let Me Go" and "Tuesday (Voiceless)" = WOW WOW WOW!!!Zanelli is no James Newton Howard, but he did a fantastic job with writing a large scale fantasy score. I’ll even say that, while I think the first Maleficent is stronger overall, I personally like the action writing better here. Also 2 little things I’ve noticed;<br><br>1. The new theme here sounds fairly similar to the Father/Son tune from KFP3<br>2. 2:20-3:30 sounds like it may have been temped from the finale of Fantastic Beasts. (Or maybe I’m just crazy lol)Great work of Zanelli, if is not as good like JNH's Maleficent, is a tremendous work, with a terrific writing and orchestrations, even the most tender parts are terrific.It’s definitely Balfe. I’ve seen the film for the second time two weeks ago so my memory is kind of hazy but luckily I decided to record the end credits for reference and I think it plays in Balfe’s section / variation of one of his themes played on a solo string instrument. <br><br>I think we got most of Richter cues as it was mainly his release. I feel that Lorne has moved on from this project - he didn’t even mention the release so an extended release of his material seems unlikely to happen :( <br><br>For those interested the credits suite plays as follows: <br><br><br>“A Trip To The Moon” (synth part)<br>“I Put All That Away”<br>Variation on the theme in “Underground Lake” at 0:14<br>Variation on the theme in “Trip To Neptune” 0-1:00<br>“To The Stars”Season 2 premieres in 2 weeks, if he was scoring he would be working on it at the moment. But yes no confirmation regarding his return or a new composer. No news regarding new composer might be a hint whether Djawadi is returning or not.
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Steve JablonskyClay DuncanJeff BiggersJon Aschalew
ComposerAmbient Music DesignMusic Scoring MixerSynth Programmer
Pain & Gain
Label: Varese Sarabande
Length: 66'11
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  1. I'm Big (2:20)
  2. Sun Gym (2:02)
  3. Definitely Guys (1:57)
  4. I'm A Doer (2:26)
  5. I Got Saved (1:19)
  6. Wrong Car (1:16)
  7. Taser (1:36)
  8. Cologne (2:18)
  9. I'm Gonna Tell Jesus (4:04)
  10. Buckle Up (2:09)
  11. Run Him Over (3:27)
  12. Catching Bad Guys (1:31)
  13. I Work Hard (3:45)
  14. Get A Pump (1:38)
  15. Sometimes You Gotta Run (1:24)
  16. Difficult Victim (0:59)
  17. 14 Minutes (2:49)
  18. I Believe In Fitness (2:24)
  19. Supermen (3:32)
  20. So Buff (3:06)
  21. Sacred Trust (3:30)
  22. Du Bois (3:26)
  23. CIA (1:43)
  24. My Sh*t Stopped Workin' (3:59)
  25. Toe (2:00)
  26. Doyle (5:31)
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Bayhem reply Replies: 0 || 2017-07-18 13:47:04
I really do consider this to be one of the most unusual (in a good way) and original MV/RC scores. Don't even recall any tracks that successfully suggest that this is MV/RC. My opinion, of course. I wonder if some of you peeps feel the same. And I admit, I'm not the biggest fan of too much electronics and experimentation, but in this case it actually works. It's a very contained score with some exceptional tracks. 14 Minutes is a personal favorite.

Evenstar reply Replies: 6 || 2015-01-30 08:51:05
Supermen was written by Clay Duncan. Clay just told on his facebook page.


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-30 19:01:16
And I know about 5 tracks that were written Jon Aschalew... :P


Adam2015-01-30 19:16:58
Thanks for letting us know that, Evenstar!

And Hybrid - can we have those credits, please? That would be awesome!


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-30 19:31:52
Sun Gym, I'm A Doer, CIA, My Shit Stopped Working'

That's 4 in fact lol...


Adam2015-01-30 20:03:34
Awesome! Thanks so much ;)


JamesT2015-01-31 02:33:19
Hybrid, can you tell me if my fav tracks are SJ....I'm Big, Run Over Him (love this!), Du Bois, Doyle?


Bayhem2017-07-18 13:42:25
Du Bois is definitely Jablonsky. Definitely.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2014-09-18 22:25:55
Anybody got a chronological list of this by chance?

Steve reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-08 01:35:10
correct chronological tracklist anybody?

dark prince reply Replies: 0 || 2014-02-03 02:33:41
My expectations for this score was really little, for the thematic of the movie, the fact of I don't trust completly on Steve Jablonsky, but this score was a surprise for good, isn't an excellent score, but is funny and even cool

Evenstar reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-15 00:59:30
Steve is going to be busy! Steve Jablonsky and Nathan Whitehead have signed on to compose the music for the upcoming TNT original series The Last Ship, produced by Michael Bay!

Evenstar reply Replies: 2 || 2013-11-13 22:21:16
Jablonsky talkes about Lone Survivor
youtube.com/watch?v=w4nUbQvVL6g


Ds2013-11-14 06:54:26
Awesome, i didn't know he was part of that project! Thanks for sharing!

Btw there's a very small cue playing at lonesurvivorfilm.com, it might be some of Jablonsky's music.


marty2013-11-14 16:11:41
thank you!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 13 || 2013-04-26 22:54:08
I didn't really expect anything from that score but... it's really great for those liking electro stuff like Tron, Oblivion or TF3...

Some very very cool highlights =>

I'm Big / I Believe In Fitness (the same theme)
Definitely Guys
Run Him Over (:O)
Doyle

Excellent stuff ! :)


Ds2013-04-27 00:22:30
Hybrid, how did you listen to it? If i'm not wrong you're not living in the US... I'm searching for it everywhere but can't find it.


Everan2013-04-27 17:52:37
I love both synth music and orchestral music, and this one is one great synth soundtrack, it gives emotion and synths usually don't. Really enjoying this one, reminds me of Mass Effect sometimes.

Worth a listen if you like synths and Jablonsky score, if you don't like synths, don't expect any big stuff like in previous scores of Steve.


Ds2013-04-27 19:16:38
Agree. This is classy music, i'm sure it complements perfectly Michael Bay's strong visual style. Makes me want to watch the movie... unfortunately it's not out before August in Europe :'(


Trent Easton Navarro2013-04-27 19:36:50
Wasn't really sure what to expect from this one. But just listened to it and I really dig it. Jablonsky's best in quite some time


MrZimmerFan2013-04-27 19:39:55
I really like this score by Steve, not masterpice, but very cool


Tunerline2013-05-04 14:18:19
Du Bois is goood track!!!!


Mr Motivator2013-05-04 17:24:29
Piss poor effort from jablonsky. I was expecting him to at least make an effort of something new unlike to two transformer sequels he composed. C'mon steve your better than this!


al bundy2013-05-04 18:34:17
maybe michael bay didn't want anything better


Ds2013-05-04 19:28:33
Sorry guys but this is a small movie, what were you expecting? A bombastic epic score? Imo Jablonsky did exactly what the movie needed: a modern ambient score that's at times very cool almost hip-hop, at times angry and savage.


Mr motivator2013-05-04 20:52:51
@al bundy. That's exactly why all of his movies have got worse since ''the rock'



MrZimmerFan2013-05-07 13:30:50
You mean The Island, Transformers or Armageddon sucks?!, wtf


Mr motivator2013-05-09 01:07:30
Well.....yeah. His films may have the action value but c'mon they are as poor as a bum.


Guitwo2013-09-13 00:06:24
I'm big is about to be the next theme for any movie trailers ;)

run over him is freaking awesome. I like buckle up too. halfway through the album, it's really great.

the movie itself is really funny, crazy frankly one of the best movie from Bay (and i'm a disappointed, "old" fan of MB -Bad Boys 1 and The Rock are amazing).

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-17 05:59:38
Anyone who has seen the film, can you provide the tracklist in chronological order?

OKKU reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-08 10:11:54
Only electronic music....


Everan2013-05-08 22:18:33
Low budget film, low budget for score. Jablonsky managed to work around it and make something nice, maybe not perfect but it really is nice.

Evenstar reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-26 21:53:42
A lot of synthie in this score... not sure if I like this but I expected more. Got it from iTunes btw.


Evenstar2013-04-28 11:23:04
Ok after listening a couple times, also with my headphones, I like it more. Steve put a lot of small, tiny synthie sounds in every track (most of them you can only hear with headphones). Although it's just synthie, Steve did a good job to do the best he could. Track "Doyle" really got me :)

ps: Some sounds remain me to Harry Gregson-Williams.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-27 17:22:39
I truly like this soundtrack. It may not be like the Transformers trilogy, Your Highness, or Gangster Squad... but Steve's composed work isn't all that bad.

Overall: 7 out of 10

JOhnson reply Replies: 9 || 2013-04-24 17:56:28
Cant say I agree with this score. This sounds like every track is the Sam Witwicky cue from Transformers...Its already out on Itunes.

Oh well...Gotta pass on this one.


Ds2013-04-24 18:05:47
I can't disagree more! I listened to the 26 snippets and found it looked very nice and adapted to the tone of the movie. Did you listen to the full album? I can't find it since it's only available in the US...


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 18:14:50
Sam Witwicky tone?, that's no make any sense men


Jeff2013-04-24 22:33:35
Where did you find this on iTunes? I don't see it anywhere.


Ds2013-04-24 23:00:24
US store only...


Jeff2013-04-24 23:09:10
I live in Chicago. I typed in Steve Jablonsky and it doesn't show up in his list of albums. I also typed in "Pain & Gain" and it didn't come up there either.


Ds2013-04-24 23:25:35
Try this: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/pain-gain-music-from-motio n/id640378255


Jeff2013-04-24 23:32:26
Thank you very much. That worked.


Ds2013-04-24 23:39:46
You're welcome. Please tell us what you think about it!


Johnson2013-04-25 07:09:57
Type in Steve Jablonsky and it's further down on the album list...


yes...I find the score to be minimalistic like his Sam Whitwicky cues from the Transformers album.



Mr. Charles reply Replies: 6 || 2013-04-22 22:09:35
Will this be on iTunes any earlier than May 7th? I'd like it before the film opens on Friday...usually that's when an OST is released. I really want this one :(

Does anyone happen to have it yet? Or is there even a tracklist anywhere? Why do I feel like we're gonna get the same treatment as DotM. The film opens in (technically) 3 days (Thursday 10PM screenings is the new midnight) and we have no info. I'd like some info if possible, please! Thanks


JamesT2013-04-23 19:27:19
Varese says digital release by next Tuesday, perhaps sooner :)


Ds2013-04-23 21:27:22
Found this in a Pain&Gain review, a little taste of Jablonsky's work:

"The first hour or so of Pain and Gain is incredibly off-putting. (...) The score, by composer Steve Jablonsky, feels like it never ends. Seemingly each and every scene has a constant, almost club-like beat over it, giving the on-screen action an urgency it doesn’t really warrant.
(...)
After about an hour or so, Bay’s wild visuals and Jablonsky’s score sync up with the story, which devolves into a weird, entertaining amalgamation of Pulp Fiction, Very Bad Things and Bad Boys."


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-24 01:19:00
That doesn't sound ultra promising, but it also doesn't really tell us much. I've been disappointed in Jablonsky lately, but we'll just have to see how this turns out.


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 13:23:34
Is in Itunes, check it


Ds2013-04-24 15:30:46
US iTunes only :(
Samples are cool. I can already say that Jablonsky tried something different :)


MrZimmerFan2013-04-24 17:05:50
I hope are better than Mazzaro's Bullet to the Head

Ds reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-13 03:30:03
There's a piece of music playing at the movie official website, this is the intro music of the 1st trailer. I think it can be part of the original score! --> painandgainmovie.com


Mr. Charles2013-04-17 00:36:43
Yes!!! You're right, it's the cue heard in the opening of the trailer! I love this piece, I'm so glad it's part of the score!!

Everan reply Replies: 9 || 2013-04-11 18:25:58
So, no news yet on a release date, or cover, or samples or something? The film ain't that far away.

Really wanna know what he'll do here, he gets more working freedom with Bay so he can do anything he wants.


Everan2013-04-11 18:27:54
Just saw the date, silly me :P


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-11 19:48:37
More working freedom? I'd argue the opposite. It's on the Bay movies that Jablonsky's scores tend to expose a lot of temp track love (Gladiator in The Island, King Arthur and Batman Begins in TF1, Angels and Demons in TF2, The Last Samurai, Inception, The Dark Knight and Mind Heist in TF3...). I like all of those scores but I certainly wouldn't say he was able to do anything he wanted!

Jablonsky tends to do best when he's on movies that have nothing to do with Bay, but still let him stretch his thematic/action muscles: Steamboy, Your Highness and to a lesser extent D-War (although that one still has a lot of temp love from The Last Samurai). Unfortunately he doesn't seem to get many chances to write that kind of thing these days... :/


Ds2013-04-12 00:45:33
But yet Jablonsky is the only one that keeps offering us the classical 2000's Zimmer sound we all loved :)


aldan2013-04-12 06:23:17
It's still the same though, when Jablonsky enters animation business, it features a lot of similarities to those of John Powell's or Harry Gregson Williams's, especially in theirs '98-'01 era style.

His Steamboy score, allthough great, still bears a lot of that resemblance. One can simply hear Powell's Paycheck, Williams's Sinbad, or Powell/Williams's Antz in it, especially that timpani/ drums, and violas progressions. But because i'm a big fan of Powell's, that doesnt disturb me at all.

Jablonsky's Your Highness also bears similarities to Zimmer's Spirit and POTC.



Hybrid Soldier2013-04-12 07:11:28
Well Jablonsky did work on Antz and did a large part of Spirit, and worked on POTC 1... :P


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-12 07:17:13
@Ds, up until a couple of years ago I'd agree with you...he's one of the few that continues to write the good old power anthems! But Battleship and Gears of War: Judgment seem to indicate he's veering away from that mold into something a lot more electronic and noisy and sound-design-based, and I really hope he doesn't keep going in that direction.

@aldan, I do agree with you about the Powell/Gregson-Williams comparisons, but if you're going to imitate anyone in MV/RC, those two are a really good place to start, so I'm not the least bit disturbed either! :)


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2013-04-12 10:17:31
@Edmund

Certain article from Variety says Jablonsky no recives no indication about his scores with Bay, temp-tracking? i don't think so.

And working with Berg, he imposed in that style Battleship


Trent Easton Navarro2013-04-12 19:28:27
@MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)

So how would you explain that "It's Our Fight" sounds very similar to Mind Heist? Or "My Name Is Lincoln" and "Now We Are Free"? (to name just a few examples)


Ds2013-04-12 23:02:21
Hybrid, do you know if Jablonsky will score the next Peter Berg movie (Lone Survivor)?

MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain) reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-07 12:13:58
I know it... jejejeje


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-07 14:59:59
That Spanish laughing cracks me up. Jejejejejejejejejeje


MrZimmerFan (Fan from Spain)2013-03-08 21:23:15
Wtf?


Evenstar2013-03-08 21:40:16
Me too Edmund ;-)

btw. I'm very curious about this score!

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