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I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...
Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!Oh, yes.<br><br>Maybe this month, right?The album is ready. Just waiting for legal to settle it... It'll happen.
And about The Rhythm Section?, Mazzaro said the score is mastered...If there'd only been the first movie prior, I think I'd get it a bit more. But the 2nd film did have a proper score release, so the only reason at this point is that it just isn't on Nick's mind after all the delays.Whoa, why not? Every obscure random shit gets released these days but a Hans Zimmer score to a fairly big mainstream movie doesn't?I doubt there'll be a score release.The Spongebob movie is being released next Friday here in Canada, could we see a release of the album soon? Assuming of course that there will be an album at all /:
I gotta say that short film was spectacular even with I Phone 11, the score by Lorne Balfe fitted very well with the scenes introduced.I'd say that this anthem was pretty great for Zimmer to score a soccer team that has been alive for 25 years.Cheers guys, much appreciated!<br>In my mind I had some video interview though, as I always like watching those as well. I do wonder if there was an extra section on the home release of the movie where ideally there might be.Hans Zimmer is one of the biggest film composers working in the industry today.  He won an Academy Award for his work on The Lion King, and has been nominated for six other films including Gladiator, The Thin Red Line, and As Good As It Gets. With The Last Samurai he celebrates his 100th film score, and SoundtrackNet had an opportunity to talk with Hans a few weeks ago during a rare break in his busy schedule working on Something's Gotta Give.<br><br>You've scored many projects during your career, and The Last Samurai is being touted as your 100th film score…<br><br>Well, I'm terrible with math, so I'm not doing the counting. It could be more, it could be less – but apparently it's the 100th.<br><br>So how did you get involved with the project?<br><br>If you're lucky enough to get nominated for an Oscar, you get invited to the Oscar nominee's luncheon where they hand out these little nomination certificates. There are usually 150 people standing there, and people are invited up in alphabetical order, starting with the As. By the time they get to the Cs, everybody's already back at their table chatting and eating, and while the first people called get thunderous applause, you can imagine what it's like when your name starts with Z!<br><br>So Ed Zwick and I were standing there, waiting at one of these luncheons about four years ago, and we started talking to each other. I asked him what he was working on and he told me about this movie called The Last Samurai, which I thought sounded interesting and I asked him to send me a script. After the script arrived, I didn't hear from him for a long time and I thought he'd forgotten about me, not thinking about how difficult it is to set up a samurai movie these days. The other thing I liked about the project was that Tom Cruise was involved, so it was like returning home, since I've scored a bunch of his movies – I knew we were going to have a good time.<br><br>Did it end up that way?<br><br>Ed and his editor Steve Rosenblum are such gentlemen, so together and professional, and they basically did one cut of the film, screened it, and everyone loved their work. So after this, they had plenty of time to come and hang with me, and while I usually love the re-cutting process because it's a diversionary tactic to keep the director and editor out of my life, these guys were great to have around. <br><br>Of course, my sense of paranoia made me think that something was going wrong all the time, waiting for the other shoe to drop, as it were, but it never happened. Ed phoned this morning and I thought, "Oh my god – rewrite!" It's just how my brain works. But I think he and I feel a bit odd now: we've been seeing each other every day for months, and suddenly we're done. I completely understand why people have a problem finishing a movie, because there's something really nice about the process – completion is far more boring.<br><br>For Samurai, you used Japanese percussions and ethnic woodwinds, without getting too 'Japanese'.<br><br>My problem is that I feel Japanese music is really inaccessible to Western ears, and I was really struggling with this film initially, trying to figure out what I was doing. This idea popped into my head for using Western-style themes, but applying a Japanese aesthetic to them, which sounds great of course, until I had to ask myself what I meant! Actually, I think it's just my way of not overloading certain things with too many colors, or being geometrically precise about my cues and not making them too flowery.<br><br>The Tom Cruise character is one of those nasty drunks at the beginning, who obviously has some serious problems he's trying to deal with, or not deal with. He's obnoxious and restless, suffering sleepless nights and is very un-Tom. For me, this character's journey was about his need to earn tranquility and peace, so within the score there's this very romantic, overblown and passionate theme. It's like a juvenile way of dealing with life and death – the pain and liebestod.<br><br>However, to contrast with these very relentless themes, there are a number of stark, formal and sober pieces, because I wanted to take Tom's character on a journey. He comes from America and ends up in this foreign place where he doesn't speak the language or understand the culture. But at the end of the movie, I want the audience to think that there isn't a more beautiful place for him to be, that he is at home in Japan and finally at peace.<br><br>There are many useless acts of bravery we do out of misguided romanticism, and this movie is full of courageous and dignified acts of bravery. So I wanted to play off these acts, since both the American and Japanese cultures have a concept of heroism, and I just wanted to see if I could play with the nature of the two different concepts.<br><br>So you didn't want to do the stereotypical Japanese thing...<br><br>Absolutely not! Take Akira Kurosawa's Ran, for example, which has this brilliant score where Takemitsu writes Western music, but with an Eastern accent. Somebody asked me a few days ago why As Good As It Gets was European – why did I write a European score for a quintessentially American story? For me, it's because Jack Nicholson was crazy in the movie, and I felt one of the great things about America is how they always think we Europeans are crazy. So by writing a European-styled score, it's my way of saying that Jack is crazy, but it's alright!<br><br>How do you feel about people who criticize your work for not fitting into the time period, like Gladiator?<br><br>The reason I take these jobs is because I'm interested in foreign cultures, and every time I get to work on a movie I'm thrown into the adventure of whatever that culture is, the time, and wherever the story's taking place. So one of the things I'm very careful about is not to be historically correct to the culture, but, on the other hand, not to insult the underlying aesthetics of that culture either. I remember watching Chariots of Fire and thinking how brilliantly the music worked, never missing that it wasn't period instruments! I grew up listening to Bach played by a symphony orchestra – it's the wrong sized orchestra with the wrong instruments, but I don't think that's the point.<br><br>With Gladiator, Pietro Scalia brought in a CD saying "this is Ancient Roman music," and I said, "Says who? You went to the Ancient Roman music store and bought an Ancient Roman music CD? Bullshit!" We're not anthropologists. Look at he costumes Ridley Scott had: they were more Napoleonic than Roman, which was perhaps fitting since Napoleon had stolen all of his good ideas from the Romans regarding how to make his generals look cool – and so did Hitler! So I got criticized for making the "Entry into Rome" cue too Leni Riefenstahl – but that was the joke! I am allowed to have a sense of humor in my music!<br><br>Earlier this summer your credit on Pirates of the Caribbean was "Score Overproduced by". What was the deal with that?<br><br>Well, I thought honesty was a virtue! But seriously, Jerry Bruckheimer quite rightly asked me not to give him "that old-fashioned Pirate music," and Gore Verbinski, who I adore and did The Ring with, said, "Well, it is a pirate movie, so we have to disguise it." In the end, I spent a day and a half writing tunes, Klaus Badelt wrote a lot of stuff, and we rolled up our sleeves, got drunk, behaved in a debauched way, and produced a score!<br><br>There was a lot of criticism regarding that score, but in the end it had to serve the film - which it did. You seem to get a lot of criticism on any project you do.<br><br>I had the misfortune of going onto the Film Score Monthly web site recently to look something up and vanity made me type in my own name. I suddenly realized that you can't ever get it right. Who do people want me to be? The guy that writes Matchstick Men? Or the guy that writes The Rock? Or the guy that writes Driving Miss Daisy? My need is ultimately to write for myself. I mock myself and I'm ironic about the way I speak about it because if I take it too seriously, it would be a pompous and boring thing to do. But at the same time I take each note I write very seriously – none of them are random.<br><br>The Internet Movie Database always lists you as being attached to multiple projects, so I was curious, what's Sharktail?<br><br>I complained to Jeffrey Katzenberg that I couldn't cross any more Red Seas, or deal with any more horses that can't speak – I wanted to do one of the fun animated movies instead. There's also a hip-hop element in Sharktail, and I haven't been there yet, so it's new territory! King Arthur is still in production, and I literally just got the first bits of footage just before you came here.<br><br>Are you working on all of these projects simultaneously?<br><br>I'm thinking about them! I'm also working with Jim Brooks on his new comedy, Spanglish.<br><br>And speaking of comedies, you recently did Matchstick Men for Ridley, which had a very Nino Rota vibe to it....<br><br>And I gave him credit! I thought, what if Nino had written the theme and I was just doing the variations? But I bet I'm going to get criticized for that because it's not like Gladiator.<br><br>So when did you last have a vacation?<br><br>Well, I went to Japan for a couple of days at the end of November for the Japanese premiere of Samurai, but look, I love what I do! In January I'll travel to Morocco because Ridley will be shooting his next movie, Kingdom of Heaven, so that's like a holiday!<br><br>My family and I are going away at Christmas, and what we used to do would be to rent a house in the mountains and go on these skiing holidays. It would be a crappy house, not as nice as the one we live in, my wife was still going to the market, and we're still washing our plates – so it wasn't a vacation, it was a lot of work! It's taken us a long time, but we just figured it out: we're not practical with vacations – we're staying at hotels! But while the Zimmer family isn't talented when it comes to vacations, we're talented when it comes to work!<br><br>I sat through Samurai the other day, and for the first time watched the whole movie from top to tail with everything finished and completed. It felt really good, better than a vacation. But luckily there were enough things wrong for me to think that I learned something from the experience, and now I can't wait for the next project to try these new ideas out.<br><br>The soundtrack to The Last Samurai is available from Elektra Records, and the film is currently in theaters. Matchstick Men is available on Varese Sarabande Records.<br><br>With thanks to Chet Mehta at Chasen & Co, Jason Cienkus at Warner Brothers, and Nina Lynch and Mark Wherry at Media Ventures for helping with this interview. And, of course, special thanks to Hans.Mulan get his release... through Disney+, 4th September.
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Man Of Steel
Label: WaterTower Music
Length: 118'21
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CD1
  1. Look To The Stars (2:58)
  2. Oil Rig (1:45)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  3. Sent Here For A Reason (3:46)
  4. DNA (3:34)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  5. Goodbye My Son (2:01)
  6. If You Love These People (3:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Andrew Kawczynski
  7. Krypton's Last (1:58)
  8. Terraforming (9:49)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Steve Mazzaro
  9. Tornado (2:55)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  10. You Die Or I Do (3:13)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Christian Vorländer
  11. Launch (2:36)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  12. Ignition (1:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  13. I Will Find Him (2:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  14. This Is Clark Kent (3:47)
    Hans Zimmer
  15. I Have So Many Questions (3:47)
  16. Flight (4:18)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  17. What Are You Going To Do When You Are Not Saving The World? (5:27)
CD2
  1. Man Of Steel (Hans' Original Sketchbook) (28:16)
    Hans Zimmer

    Limited Deluxe Edition

  2. Are You Listening, Clark? (2:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  3. General Zod (7:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  4. You Led Us Here (2:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  5. This Is Madness! (3:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  6. Earth (6:11)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  7. Arcade (7:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
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IamBoDigidy reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-16 15:00:52
Just got a notice from Amazon saying that the Man of Steel Vinyl LP has been delayed until August 6th. Womp wah.

0-cool reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-14 22:10:51
here is the best quality version of the exp App. It's a looping snipped of "Flight"(the theme)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz0V74eSjKw


Mike2013-05-14 23:16:15
Not available in U.S... :(

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-14 22:34:20
Hans' interview for Empire magazine: empireonline.com/interviews/interview.asp?IID=1690

It's cool but nothing really new for the fans who already know every detail of his career :p

michael reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-14 16:29:03
People need to realize that this is just going to be a typical Zimmer release, we all know the film will be packed with action and emotion and that no doubt the majority of the recording sessions will not be on here in their proper film versions, so I say judge this score once you have seen the film not by this album alone.


Meta2013-05-14 18:49:46
Of course, which I'm sure also means there's gonna be action pieces. I mean, this is typical Zimmer territory anyway. Im not expecting Williams' Superman tune/Williams action scoring...

IamBoDigidy reply Replies: 13 || 2013-05-13 15:18:08
New track from Rolling Stone. DNA

h t t p ://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/man-of-steel-composer-han s-zimmer-celebrates-mankind-on-dna-20130513


Anonymous2013-05-13 15:42:43
Great track.
It's a secret link cause it is not on WaterTower their soundcloud profile. So the full album must be out there for the press.


tomPoland2013-05-13 18:48:44
put that track into batman soundtrack, and nobody will tell the difference:(

heard the news? composer James Horner was replaced by "composer" Steve J in Enders Game. sad


Jor-El_Hans_is_the_fucking_master2013-05-13 20:16:21
Heard the news? Some listeners needs new ears...
-peace,love and music-


Mike2013-05-13 22:23:25
"Stock Exchange" from TDKR, anyone?


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-14 02:03:05
Been trying to avoid samples, but I checked this one out (and got the trailer before Iron Man 3, so couldn't really avoid that one). Can't say I'm hugely impressed by this. The trailer music sounded not bad, though.

After all that talk about trying to keep it distinct from Batman, "DNA" does indeed sound pretty close. But you could never exactly rely on Zimmer to put his money where his mouth is. :p


Mike2013-05-14 02:05:43
Edmund, while I agree Dna isn't very special, listen to the trailer music a few more times. You need to let it grow on you (as I did).


Anonymous 2013-05-14 05:04:42
To be honest, the action music doesn't really sound that great. BUT, it sounds like this score will have many sincere, heartfelt moments that do sound great. That genuinely makes me happy. I'll happily throw out the action and just keep the tender moments of the score.


Jor_El_Hans_is_the_fucking_master2013-05-14 13:08:56
Seriously,
All this people who is saying MOS sounds like Batman should think aboout their future as a film music listeners.
It can't be as diferent in tone, textures and orchestrations.
By the way, purists are going to commite suicide with this score, but Hans did it again. He is the man. He is the one!
-peace,love,weed and music-


MrZimmerFan2013-05-14 13:30:21
I'm still looking the new Superman's theme...


Jor_El_Hans_is_the_fucking_master2013-05-14 14:04:07
I have THE solution for your problem, MrZimmerNotfan,
Watch and LISTEN the third MOS trailer.
-Peace,love,weed and music-


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-14 14:11:05
Well, aren't you obnoxious.


MrZimmerFan2013-05-14 14:47:51
@Jor_El

In the album


0-cool2013-05-14 15:40:24
Flight is the main theme
The leitmotiv is heard in the Krypton's Last and Goodbye My Son(at the end) samples

Mr Motivator reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-13 01:57:59
When is the recording sessions getting leaked? Lmfao


George2013-05-13 02:26:15
idk i'll ask superman

Frank reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-12 09:22:39
Just listen some piece live in the concert of Varese Sarabande 35th Anniversary Gala, with Zimmer playing the piano and Satnam Ramgotra playing the drum. It's AWESOME!!!!


Frank2013-05-12 10:31:40
You can listen here youtube.com/watch?v=4tK1mUzHEt8


Ds2013-05-12 13:16:10
Thanks Frank! The Driving Miss Daisy suite is very cool, the Man of Steel track is... well... intriguing (maybe due to the recording).

I wonder if there's going to be a live concert for the premiere, like Inception. Do Hybrid know something about that? :)


Mike2013-05-13 01:06:09
That's interesting that they decided to use those two scores together.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-13 01:03:35
The Man of Steel TV spots have Zimmer music in them.

JamesT reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-11 03:02:03
The Warner Bros MOS app is available for download in the Apple Store -- pretty neat and has a much clearer version of the other theme than the one posted on Sound Cloud. Loving it.....

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-11 01:51:22
Amazon.fr has a picture of the deluxe edition's contents. The 1st CD is called "Flight", and the 2nd one is called "Experiments From The Fortress Of Solitude".

I assume the 2nd disc only contains suite and original ideas!

.... reply Replies: 12 || 2013-05-09 11:19:35
POst your favorite sample tracks here!
Mine is Terraforming!


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-09 11:29:43
I wish I could ! :)


Michael H2013-05-09 12:05:22
I love the tender moments of goodbye my son. Launch sounds fantastic as does ignition etc......GREAT STUFF...go HANS


Radik2013-05-09 15:03:09
Oooh that samples are awesome.. Can't wait for hole score.. I love that guitar theme in first track and Terraforming :)


Jor-EL_Hans_is_the_f@cking_master2013-05-09 19:45:09
You can..Hybrid! Just do it, dude!
Join us in this celebration.
ratatarararara afro, ratararararar circus!

About the clips...this time Hans really shocked me. I didn't expect that sound at all. A realy fresh and cool sound. So clean, so pure...so firm! Mindblowing, evocative, beautiful...
By the way, Why drums? I think they are terrific emulating superman's Sonic velotcity, but Why drums? Just asking, since I love how perfectly recorded, performed and composed they are.

-peace,love,weed and music, my friends-


Guitwo2013-05-09 20:35:33
definitely i'm not impressed by all those samples. Am I the only one? but i won't take any conclusion on the full album 'til its realease


Jor-EL_Hans_is_the_f@cking_master2013-05-09 20:43:40
Guitwo...
listen how unique the percusión from this samples sounds...the whole Sonic world created for this movie is really fresh and evocative. Besides Hans is like Japanese food sometimes...:)
This is how you keep things moving. Love it.
-peace,love,weed and music, my friends-


Trent Easton Navarro2013-05-09 21:45:19
@Guitwo, Nope you are not alone. I expected a lot more. But..., I will wait until I've heard the entire soundtrack before I'll give my final judgement.


Guitwo2013-05-10 00:13:51
i foudn that sonic world, with those big drums maybe too teaser-like"

hans zimmer is not "two steps from hell". i've been following him for approx 14years and he has always found a way to print his own signature sound on a movie.
I don't see anything particular here other than big drums. But again, those are just samples. I won't judge the whole album based on those samples. I'll wait but i'm still trying to understand the hype around those samples.

on the other hand it might be a good news because it means he has created something that you can't fully appreciate without watching the movie and that this the core of making film music.


Ds2013-05-10 01:15:34
@Guitwo: well, i like these samples because they hint so much more. They're just the 1st minute of all the tracks, so we get some ideas and hints of the themes and sounds, but we actually don't know how it'll turn out. In film music, the best parts are often at the end!

Judging by these samples, i think MoS is going to be a mix of Hans old striking grand themes of the 2000's and the more percussive heavy style he's shown over the last few years (TDKR, Angels & Demons).


Guitwo2013-05-10 01:47:30
i consider TDKR one of his best job. still shocked by imagine the fire/wayne manor suite brass. so much power, exceptionnal melodies and strong percussions. RE-using the famous two-notes batman theme and adding new cues.

here i have the impression that it's just big percs played together and that the melody aren't good enough.

but hey pale that's IMO and knowing that it's just the beginning of each tracks. Taht's why these are call samples.
I expect Hans to rock my ears once again (especially in Imax)


Guitwo2013-05-10 01:48:22
aren't good enough = aren't present enough.


Score_Trader2013-05-10 08:34:19
The score will be fantastic. I can't wait to see how the film versions sound, especially with visuals.

Mike reply Replies: 24 || 2013-05-07 18:41:20
Just under two hours! Nice!


Mike2013-05-07 19:11:37
Ah shoot...you're right...remixes...Just when I thought this score was free of them! If they need remixes, why not have a whole album like Pirates of the Caribbean 3 got, and leave the score album as score?

Oh well. Still excited.


Pluto2013-05-07 19:54:15
Are you sure they're remixes Mike? They might not be.


Mike2013-05-07 20:19:57
I can't think of any other reason that iTunes would say three of them are by "Hans Zimmer and JunkieXL". But okay, they MIGHT not be.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-07 20:20:51
I tend to agree with Mike here...


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-07 20:41:01
watertower-music.com/releases_spotlight.php?search=WTM39426


Samples ! Enjoy people, I won't !


Cabox2013-05-07 21:15:35
Unfortunately, it sounds like Social Network:/ no superheroism in these samples at all


Ds2013-05-07 21:18:43
Are you crazy? :o in my opinion it just sounds incredible! Track "This Is Clark Kent" looks especially interesting. One month to go...


Cabox2013-05-07 21:21:43
Yeah that track sounds nice but it reminded me of S.N. because of the little piano tune played slowly over the droning electronics.. like "Hand Covers Bruise" I think... I'm definitely not crazy


0-cool2013-05-07 21:28:06
These are just the first 60 seconds of every track. Most tracks have a build-up.
Just look at the app snippet(flight : https://soundcloud.com/dajanksta/mos-app) and then the sample of Flight. Slow build-up that gets epic and heroic


julien2013-05-07 21:41:59
Terraforming sounds amazing !!


Pluto2013-05-07 21:45:45
Thanks for the link Hybrid. Haha Mike. :P From what I've heard of those so far, and granted, it's not too bad, coming from somebody who hates remixes. They might be slightly over synthesized. It's possible these songs might be more like the Dark Knight Rises extras we got, such as "The Shadows Betray You" and "The End". You gather what I mean? Maybe a slight remix of the themes in the soundtrack, but not necessarily quote-on-quote "remixes" we're used to despising.....


Mike2013-05-07 21:49:52
They DON'T sound like remixes!


Anonymous2013-05-07 21:50:50
It seems the coolest cues (and most epic varations) are already on itunes/soundcloud/youtube


Jasper2013-05-08 01:35:28
Remixes or not, this is gonna be an awesome and lengthy release


Meta2013-05-08 06:51:52
All i hear are typical Zimmer synth - typical for his score in Pearl Harbor with piano, that is - followed by some 80s synth he is brought back for accent, followed by a collection of percussion I can only best describe as "DRUMS OUT THE ASSSSSS!!!"....





Meta2013-05-08 06:57:03
And believe me, I get the drums in this....

Zimmer probably thought to himself: "John Williams' Superman score. DAMN. DAMN! How the HELL am I going to compete with that score? No way in hell...No way...Let's see what can I do? Hey Paul! What's the most powerful musical instrument in all of music? Drums you say? Percussion? Ka-ching!"

Still...it's another welcome Zimmer score. I hope his Lone Ranger proves just as creative and ambitious....I doubt it, though, based on the treatment this release it getting...


tomPoland2013-05-08 07:58:19
Zimmer and ambitious? you can't use this two words in one sentence since DaVinci Code, I think. Samples sounds bad.


Mike2013-05-08 08:19:38
The samples might not be indicative of the whole score. I can only think of one sample--one--where it showcased the best part of the song: Aggressive Expansion from TDK. Never go by samples to determine how the overall score will be.


Anonymous2013-05-08 08:23:40
Yes Mike, but isn't that the point of samples? Letting you hear the best seconds of a song so that you will buy the album.

I really hope the samples are not those best moments. lol


Mike2013-05-08 08:28:50
You'd think that'd be the case, Anonymous, but it hasn't been in my experience. lol


0-cool2013-05-08 10:50:53
it's not the point of samples.
Amazon samples are always 0:30-1 min of EVERY song. The Watertower samples are the first 60 seconds of every track


Ds2013-05-08 16:33:11
Yeah Mike's right. Samples truly aren't satisfying to preview film music, especially Hans' music, because Hans loves build ups :p


Meta2013-05-08 18:45:03
I already catch 2 themes...

One is the Clark Kent/human theme represented by the piano, which obviously takes off into the Superman theme with the orchestra raping the drum sets...

The other, I think, is the Zod/danger theme? You can hear this second theme in other cues, but mainly in "Launch."

If you want a third one, I guess the background space noise will do: it sounds like the same ethereal music from Pirates 4 is in this though...Yes you heard it: Pirates 4 (and if you want an example try listening to the beginning of "Mermaids").


Ds2013-05-08 20:06:28
+ the awesome theme in "Goodbye my son" (same as in the app but in a very different mood)

Jimmer reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-08 03:34:25
I'm absolutely loving what I hear from this score. Can't wait for this to be released.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-08 03:09:39
The score has a very spaceish sound to it, which makes sense. Reminds me Thomas Newman's work on Finding Nemo in a way, calling to mind a sense of expansive distance and loneliness.

Guitwo reply Replies: 16 || 2013-04-25 21:37:20
a cue from the MOS-app guys!

https://soundcloud.com/dajanksta/mos-app


Mike2013-04-25 21:59:10
Is that legitimate? I do like it.


Guitwo2013-04-25 23:48:42
i don't know if any of this is legit' but that sounds amazing even if the quality is crappy.

I found it over the net and now i'm sharin it to you... "the people" :D


Johnson2013-04-26 16:49:22
amazing you say?

I dont know what this cue is supposed to represent, mind you. That's a given...

Still...What's with the guitar riffs in this? From the piano and now guitar riffs heard so far, this sounds more like a score for some action movie than it does for a movie about Superman. He's not going the Inception route for this, is he?


Since when does Superman need guitars?


Guitwo2013-04-26 18:15:40
yeah i said amazing.
but hey from what i've heard (bad audio quality), this theme is so far so good.

in fact i'm not bother by the guitar riff nor the piano, the percs are annoying me more than anything else. It reminds me Call of Duty. Maybe a "Zod Theme"

but like i said, the theme (the air) sounds amazing i won't judge the instrumentation 'til i can't hear the true version



TRU4T2013-04-28 12:12:40
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wb.ManOfSt eel.Experience
this is it, trying to extract the audio file


Guitwo2013-04-28 15:03:25
as soon as you get the clear audio, please post it because i can't access the app and everyone will be able to enjoy it :)


TRU4T2013-04-28 17:19:10
the audio in this app is mono with low volume.


Guitwo2013-04-28 17:57:52
can you upload it in soundcloud in a better quality?


TRU4T2013-04-29 02:35:35
i just can't find which is the audio file. Sorry.


Joshua2013-04-30 00:50:32
Those guitars you speak of are the steel guitars that have been well documented. Get it "steel" lol


theeaglesfan0052013-04-30 01:14:15
if this app came out for iOS already, i could get the audio


TRU4T2013-04-30 06:06:10
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/man-of-steel/id633730505?mt= 8
u may try this one, i don't have any iOS device.


alex557322013-05-07 02:16:09
Btw I saw that the video is not available on USA, but it is available on all other countries ;) If you want to hear it and you are from USA, I can upload it to soundcloud. Just tell me.


Mike2013-05-07 02:17:15
Two things, alex: 1) your comment will be edited and 2) the page said the song was blocked on copyright grounds. :( lol

Still, cool to know what Flight sounds like!


Ds2013-05-07 02:38:51
Thanks Alex! From what i hear it's just a snippet played in repeat mode in the background of the app, because this is kinda repetitive. But it sounds cool!


Richard2013-05-07 18:52:06
Awww they deleted the video D:

Mike reply Replies: 5 || 2013-05-06 22:27:51
Anyone know when we'll get tracklengths for the deluxe tracks?


Nerd2013-05-06 22:36:11
Nope.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-06 23:03:58
They are around 30 min. No more details yet.


Ds2013-05-06 23:06:13
Holy shit. It means we'll get nearly TWO HOURS of Hans' music. My expectations are now higher than ever.


Mike2013-05-06 23:10:22
Well thanks for the info all the same, Hybrid.


Mike2013-05-06 23:10:46
And yes, Ds, I'm excited, too!

Aytekin reply Replies: 6 || 2013-05-04 22:17:24
Hybrid or anybody from the Webmaster here: P.S. If it possible to change the album cover to the other Deluxe edition, (it is available in Watertower now), that will make the page more legit !! thanks ;)


Guitwo2013-05-05 13:55:26
what's more legit is to create two different pages one for the nromal version and one for the deluxe edition. ;)


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-05 14:10:56
I think it's useless to duplicate things... And honestly, I do prefer the original cover... :)


TRU4T2013-05-05 17:27:34
but its color red is too heavy


Johnson2013-05-06 04:02:02
What's MORE legit is to just STFU and stop acting like a goddamn snob: it's only a request.

Jesus Christ...(and mind you the reason people DO but SHOULD call upon Jesus Christ is to invoke MERCY)


...have mercy on this poster - he's just asking for a different cover.


Gabriele2013-05-06 17:27:24
What does it means the Kryptonian phrase on the OST (Deluxe Edition) Logo?


Johnson2013-05-06 18:21:13
Sorry about that...Im on my period.

Gabriele reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-06 17:29:02
What does it means the Kryptonian phrase on the OST (Deluxe Edition) Logo?

Thorsten reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-05 17:08:41
Samples!!!
www.scifinow.co.uk/news/41549/man-of-steel-soundtrack-previe w/


nobody2013-05-05 17:16:26
The old amazon samples. Nothing new.

El Baradei reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-02 12:09:28
I wonder who is first to post a "complete score tracklist".

TRU4T reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-02 03:32:42
a fan remade trailer 3 music so called "a ideal of hope".
www.tudou.com/programs/view/KzORyzrKweg/?phd=3

TRU4T reply Replies: 4 || 2013-05-01 12:00:19
www.tudou.com/programs/view/0fJF-NBVUyo/?phd=2
a TV commercial with MOS music, 16sec


Ds2013-05-01 14:52:21
Same theme as in the app. Cool tune, powerful and heroic. I really think this score's going to blow everyone's mind.


TRU4T2013-05-01 17:46:50
it echoes in my head these days, dyingly.


Johnson2013-05-01 19:44:14
1-2-3-4/1-2-3-4

drums drums drums drums....
synth synth synth
drums drums drums drums....
synth synth synth





Anonymous2013-05-01 19:47:40
Cool cool cool
Woot woot woot
Modern modern modern
Cool cool cool

Brent reply Replies: 30 || 2013-04-30 08:28:25
Audio clips!
filmmusicreporter.com/2013/04/29/man-of-steel-soundtrack-aud io-preview/


Mike2013-04-30 08:33:43
Looks like "Sent Here for a Reason" might be Trailer 3 music.


Aragorn2013-04-30 08:47:07
DNA sounds intense.


Anonymous2013-04-30 08:51:08
Man, a lot of the tracks aren't available for sampling. The ones with the most intriguing titles! "This is Clark Kent", "Flight", "You Die or I Do", "What are You Going to Do When You're Not Saving the World", and of course, "Man of Steel (Hans' Original Sketchbook)".


Mike2013-04-30 08:54:20
@Anonymous: Man of Steel (Hans' Original Sketchbook) just became available for a very brief sample.


Nerd2013-04-30 09:00:00
The beginning of the Tornado sample sounds like Inception.


Aragorn2013-04-30 09:01:16
Maybe Oil Rig is the track where that drum orchestra came in...


Ds2013-04-30 09:06:06
Love the tracklengths. It's approximately 58' of score + 28' "original sketchbook" = 86' !!!

PLUS the 7 tracks in deluxe edition. Can't wait.


Mike2013-04-30 09:07:49
Same, Ds. I'm far more excited for this than I was for TDKR (though I was excited for that), because this will be all-new stuff, whereas with TDKR we already knew what the Zimmer Batman sound was like.


Anonymous2013-04-30 14:13:22
Tracks after the jump it says. I must be still asleep cause I can't seem to find the previews...


Guitwo2013-04-30 14:23:08
go to the amazon page. the normal album (not the deluxe one) and you'll be able to listen to those tracks.

here's the link for you: h ttp://www.amazon.com/Man-Steel-Original-Picture-Soundtrack/d p/B00CKZX0AA/ref=sr_shvl_album_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1367308364&sr=3 01-5

IMO i haven't been blown away but those short extract.


Jasper2013-04-30 18:30:58
I'm liking what I'm hearing. Some of the tracks have a space ambient feeling, which I feel is very neat :)


Johnson2013-04-30 18:41:31
LET THERE BE DRUMS!!!!!!


.....

Sorry, that's all I got.


Oh wait he's employing that synth sound from the 80s in this score...I like how his scores since Dark Knight have had 80s sounds to them....Nice.


0-cool2013-04-30 18:47:09
the seemingly most important(thematically) cues aren't working. What a coincidence


Mike2013-04-30 19:35:24
Guitwo, yes, they're far too short. Also, as 0-cool said, the seemingly most important tracks can't be sampled.


Anonymous2013-04-30 19:40:51
Wow. Listen to the Launch sample and tell me you don't hear Battleship by the time it's done.


Nerd2013-04-30 19:43:00
I'm really liking the sample of "If You Love These People".


Mike2013-04-30 19:46:47
@Nerd: I'm wondering if that track is the same motif as the one in the app linked below.


Radik2013-04-30 19:52:22
Mike: If is, so it's some problem with it?


Mike2013-04-30 19:58:22
Never said there was a problem with it, m'friend. They just sounded similar is all.


Anonymous2013-04-30 20:21:03
Since the album has reached Amazon already it must also reached our uber-zimmer guy Hybrid. So how is the whole album hybrid?


Mike2013-04-30 20:23:39
Hybrid said he wasn't gonna listen to any of it before seeing the movie. Now, he may fail, but still.


Hybrid Soldier2013-04-30 20:28:13
I won't fail...

It's just fun to watch all these reactions to the trailer music, samples & all while I have strictly no idea how it sounds like... :P


hale2013-04-30 21:17:24
Tiens le coup! Il ne faut pas l'écouter avant la sortie du film :D
(Un ami du nord)


Kusi2013-04-30 22:45:07
@hybrid: I did the same with SH2 :-) ... and it was a great feeling to "listen" to the score while watching the movie :) I wish you GOOD LUCK!;-)


El Baradei2013-04-30 22:45:59
You all are crazy. It's just music.


Hybrid Soldier2013-04-30 23:09:16
Err... No, it's not JUST music... :)


Mike2013-04-30 23:22:50
I've never purposefully tried it, but I can say that when I see a movie with a good score without having heard any of the music first, I do get a certain appreciation for it that's not there if I listen to the music then watch the movie.


Ds2013-05-01 00:39:56
I always prefer watching a movie after listening to the score. At least for Zimmer ones :) re-watching POTC 3 now is just a dream!


Mike2013-05-01 04:32:10
I agree sometimes, Ds. The Dark Knight specifically did that for me. I had heard the score quite a bit before seeing the movie, and when I saw the movie finally (which is fantastic in and of itself), I was struck a lot of times by how well the music fit with the film (for example, I had heard the "I'm Not a Hero" track many times, and when I saw it in the movie and we heard the "DA DA.....DA DA...DA-DUH DUH" when Batman jumped off the building in Hong Kong, that just about blew me away). Also after hearing the Buyer Beware track, and finally "seeing" the music kick in when Batman grabbed the barrel of the fake Batman's gun... Oh man, it was awesome.


Ds2013-05-01 11:32:39
Hahaha, so true Mike! :)

... reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-01 00:28:06
I really liked the preview tracks, but there's a bit too much percussion...


Johnson2013-05-01 06:45:52
Its all about the drums now...

Last year it was all about the chant...



Anonymous2013-05-01 10:43:04
Luckily stuff I like most in modern soundtracks and trailer music are chants and drums. So does most modern people so this score will kick ass and be a total succes.


Anonymous2013-05-01 10:52:10
I hate samples. Esp when the release is more than one month ahead. I wish I didn't listen cause I am uber excited now...

Russel reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-30 21:21:26
Why in the world did Zimmer name them the track names he did? They seem so...weird..


Mike2013-04-30 22:31:49
Weirder than Latin names of bats? ;)

Ronald reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-29 19:37:10
Hybrid: why Tom Holkenborg was not listed here in Man of Steel... although as i know he is the drums conductor...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2013-04-29 10:35:08
Hey guys, am I the only on Earth who sees a Zack Snyder 300 private joke with a cue titled "This Is Madness!" ? :P


Guitwo2013-04-29 12:18:13
no! absolutely not :D


tomPoland2013-04-29 15:43:02
OMG!!! I didn't see it comin'!!! That Snyder, he's brilliant! [sarcasm off]

So yo probably recognized Zimmer's joke with Batman Begins...

Aragorn reply Replies: 13 || 2013-04-27 06:45:59
From Amazon:

"The challenges of creating a Superman score are daunting because Superman is so iconographic, said Snyder. I really feel like what Hans created is perfect. Subtle and stirring, epic and commanding. Honestly, Hans crushed it.
Both the standard and deluxe editions will include the epic track Man of Steel (Hans Original Sketchbook) which clocks in at over 28 minutes long. This exclusive track is performed solely by Zimmer, and allows listeners to experience firsthand his initial experiments with the film's music, which ultimately lay the foundation for the film's final score.

The deluxe edition will be housed in a special embossed steel case, contain 24 score selections, and give fans the ability to access multiple videos showing an exclusive, behind-the-scenes look at the creation of the music.

In addition to his orchestral arrangements, Zimmer, no stranger to stepping outside the confines of traditional film scoring, has assembled two unique musical entities to contribute music to Man of Steel. The first, a drum orchestra, which was brought together for the album, is described by soundtrack co-producer Peter Asher as some of the best drummers in the world all playing simultaneously in a space designed for a symphony orchestra using not only rock drum kits but tympani and field drums as well.


Mike2013-04-27 06:51:05
Whoaaaaa....28 minutes....that's not Hans' longest track, is it?


Ds2013-04-27 09:08:42
This is just exciting!! Can't wait anymore.


Edmund Meinerts2013-04-27 09:46:57
Goddamn. 28 minutes?? I can't even load that into Audiosurf!


Mike2013-04-27 09:49:18
I think the videos sound kinda interesting. Also, I'm glad that if there's going to be a giant suite, it will be on the CD. "Wayne Manor" and "Bane" were way too good to be relegated to an app.


Hybrid Soldier2013-04-27 15:34:18
And the original suite is even bigger, 35 minutes, HZ cut it down to 28...


Guitwo2013-04-27 16:06:52
hybrid: a chance to get the uncut suite at one point in the future?


Hybrid Soldier2013-04-27 16:08:43
(facepalm)

Man it's what HZ told me, what did you expect ?


Guitwo2013-04-27 16:25:42
nothing special just more music to appreciate Zimmer's work on MOS.

you're (hz told you) talking aboiut an uncut suite of 35minutes. it makes hell of diference when you know that the suite in the album is "just" 28minutes :) haha especially when you're fan :D

i know people who are able to kill for those 7minutes :D


Hybrid Soldier2013-04-27 16:28:16
Like TDK, those "minutes" are probably somewhere else in the score cues, hence why being cut... ;)


Guitwo2013-04-27 16:42:38
just kidding :)

thanks for the information :)


Jasper2013-04-27 20:22:15
This feels like it's going to be a very complete collection, especially the Limited Edition. 2011 has been one of the worst years in Hans Zimmer releases (not the worst music, but worst releases), 2012 felt a bit empty, with The Dark Knight Rises being the only thing noteworthy (I didn't enjoy Madagascar 3 that much), 2013 is already shaping up to be an excellent Zimmer year, both with the music, and with the releases. This one looks to be a very thorough collection, and we've got at least 2 more Zimmer scores coming our way. Props to the man!


uga2013-04-28 01:57:19
Yeah, when I think 2011 and Zimmer...all I can think of is that atrocious Pirates 4, and the decent, but not great Game of Shadows. Albeit some good bootleg releases though.


Magnus Rex2013-04-28 04:21:27
"Those fans who purchase the CD version of the deluxe edition will have the opportunity to download all 24 songs in DTS Headphone: X, which reproduces a cinematic multi-speaker surround sound experience using only the user's headphones. DTS Headphone:X presents a whole new way to hear mobile entertainment over headphones."

Sounds good!

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-27 17:11:38
I want that soundtrack!!!!!!!

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