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I am currently reaching out to the author and co author of the song. One has said he is going to check the archives. I do not believe the singer, Valerie Davis has any info on it. The song officially still hasn't been release i figured they forgot about it. I believe Valerie said one time that the last time she saw it, it was being wheeled off and put into storage. The last time i got into contact with john powell he was going to check the archives but never heard back, now another author/writer is looking, will post back when I hear more.Reminds me of that guy MacArthur. Whatever happened to him, I wonder! He doesn't visit here anymore.This is honest to god one of the WEIRDEST songs I have ever heard lolI assume “safe in my arms has still not been released? Is there any way I can get a copy of this song. It’s awesome.Your Music is the most inspiring art in the past twenty years. i wanna thank you so much for doing this an i hope you keep doing it...
Thank you.WW84 was completed a while back. Dune, no he's in the middle of it. Last I checked a couple of weeks ago Top Gun was not finished. SpongeBob didn't get the chance to get recorded...Just curious, are his WW84, Dune and Top Gun scores already recorded?A WAY OF LIFE = 4M20 SEASONS PASS (EDITED) + 6M34 WEAR THIS ARMOR (EDITED) + 3M17 BEATING IN THE RAIN
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<br>SPECTRES IN THE FOG = 2M13 CAPTURED (ALT) + 2M11/12 SAMURAI WILL FIND US/BATTLE IN THE FOG (EDITED)
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<br>TAKEN = 6M32/33 DON'T GO/PREPARE FOR BATTLE
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<br>A HARD TEACHER = 3M18 INTRIGUING PEOPLE (EDITED) + 3M16 ALGREN EXPLORES VILLAGE
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<br>TO KNOW MY ENEMY = 7M39B DEATH & CARNAGE + 5M29B ONE MIND PT2 (EDITED) + 5M31C NOBUTADA'S DEATH (EDITED)
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<br>IDYLL'S END = 4M24 EVERY SOLDIER HAS NIGHTMARES/FAREWELL/SAFE PASSAGE (EDITED)
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<br>SAFE PASSAGE = 5M27 HAIRCUT + 5M28 I REFUSE TO GIVE UP MY SWORD + 3M19 TOO MANY MIND
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<br>RONIN = 1M08 BOOT CAMP (EDITED) + 6M36 THEY WON'T SURRENDER (EDITED)
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<br>RED WARRIOR = 6M35 TO THE BATTLEFIELD (EDITED) + 7M38/39 ARCHERS/ON THE BATTLEFIELD (EDITED)
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<br>THE WAY OF THE SWORD = 7M40A THE FINAL CHARGE (EDITED) + 7M40B/C SAMURAI DIE BY GATLING GUN/KATSUMOTO'S DEATH
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<br>A SMALL MEASURE OF PEACE = 7M41 SMALL MEASURE OF PEACE
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<br>THE FINAL CHARGE = 7M40A THE FINAL CHARGECan’t believe another typical comment by Jack Afrogarrix was able to trigger a whole debate... The corona effect, I guess...
Hans is sheltered at home (but fear not he has a home studio that looks like a mini version of his RCP room haha, so he keeps busy as always). Still working hard.<br><br>Plans for his films are a little screwed since everything is postponed and what is not recorded cannot be (I'm thinking SpongeBob) but it's Hans, he can adapt and will find solutions ! :)I hope he is shelled up writing music. <br><br>Can he even commission an orchestra at all?Does anyone know how is Hans doing in all this situation ? I mean the pandemic.Anyone know what cues make up the OST for this? Hybrid?There's no CD cos this is bootleg.<br>It's on YouTube tho;
Where can I find this CD or how can I listen to it?Hi Sir Zimmer,<br><br>I am an self taught composer and a producer, I love your work,<br>You are my inspiration,I have made various<br>Original soundtrack inspired by your<br>Works<br>Am linking to one of my latest work<br>https://youtu.be/TEqXpSvlxsc<br><br>I would love to work on TV's or movie's music scores.<br><br>I hope you would like.<br><br>-Kenez Nonwar<br>@superultramegaa:<br><br>Yeah, now is about to be positive, but that comment is a bit to far not just for the circunstances, also because, we talk about soundtracks and comment, not other things.<br><br>Leave the covid19, for other things, ok?The comment by Jack Afrogarrix doesn't make sense. Spenser Confidential and Bloodshot are the ONLY Jablonsky soundtracks in 2020 so far. "My two favourite Jablonsky soundtracks of 2020" would only make sense, if there would be already more released than these two by Jablonsky in 2020.Do you know where can i find the song death of shrike???
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Hans ZimmerTom Holkenborg (Junkie XL)Atli ÖrvarssonAndrew Kawczynski
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicAdditional Music
Man Of Steel
Label: WaterTower Music
Length: 118'21
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CD1
  1. Look To The Stars (2:58)
  2. Oil Rig (1:45)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  3. Sent Here For A Reason (3:46)
  4. DNA (3:34)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  5. Goodbye My Son (2:01)
  6. If You Love These People (3:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Andrew Kawczynski
  7. Krypton's Last (1:58)
  8. Terraforming (9:49)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Steve Mazzaro
  9. Tornado (2:55)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  10. You Die Or I Do (3:13)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Christian Vorländer
  11. Launch (2:36)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  12. Ignition (1:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  13. I Will Find Him (2:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  14. This Is Clark Kent (3:47)
    Hans Zimmer
  15. I Have So Many Questions (3:47)
  16. Flight (4:18)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  17. What Are You Going To Do When You Are Not Saving The World? (5:27)
CD2
  1. Man Of Steel (Hans' Original Sketchbook) (28:16)
    Hans Zimmer

    Limited Deluxe Edition

  2. Are You Listening, Clark? (2:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  3. General Zod (7:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  4. You Led Us Here (2:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  5. This Is Madness! (3:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  6. Earth (6:11)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  7. Arcade (7:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
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Everan reply Replies: 21 || 2013-06-16 04:29:57
Need to ask, who's willing to make a chronological order of the tracks? Because I believe this score will be enjoyed even better chronologically.

God I love this film, and score.


Mike2013-06-16 04:34:40
I second this. A chronological ordering would be appreciated.


Everan2013-06-16 05:07:05
Look to the Stars
DNA
Goodbye My Son
Ignition
Launch
General Zod
Krypton's Last.
Oil Rig.

Managed to get those so far, missing one or two around. The last two tracks are:

If You Love These People
What Are You Going To Do When You Are Not Saving The World?

There's still like 2 whole action sequences that don't feature music in the score.


Meta2013-06-16 07:15:44
Terraforming is the comp. music for the climax

You Die OR I Do is obviously the end fight between Zod and Superman


I Do believe the various music from General Zod and Arcade comprise the fight in Smallville...


Everan2013-06-16 19:13:19
Actually, You Die Or I Do is before the Smallvile Brawl, and I believe it's used again before If You Love These People.

Have to see it again to be sure.


Richard2013-06-16 19:32:36
Well first, there are Everan's listings.
"I Have So Many Questions" is when Superman finds the ship and the ghost of his father, which would be followed by some Lois Lane pieces.
There doesn't seem to be any trace of Lois Lane's theme in the soundtrack, so those cues cannot be placed into the order.
Then, once Lois finally finds him, there is "Tornado" for the flashback.

Terraforming is the beginning of the climax, as Meta said. You Die Or I Do is the beginning of Zod's fight with Superman, which then ends in "If You Love These People".
The last track is What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World is the last track.


Richard2013-06-16 19:59:19
Oh wait, don't forget "Flight" after "I Have So Many Questions"!


Camuflage2013-06-16 21:08:11

Camuflage 2013-06-16 21:07:31
Richard,
Are you sure "if you love these people" is not heart twice in the movie? When Kyrpton is destroyed ...?
About "flight" , are you talking about part 1 or 2?
Thanks.


Everan2013-06-17 00:38:50
01 - Look To The Stars
02 - DNA
03 - Goodbye My Son
04 - Ignition
05 - Launch
06 - I Will Find Him
07 - Krypton's Last
08 - Oil Rig
09 - Are You Listening, Clark?
10 - Sent Here For A Reason
11 - I Have So Many Questions
12 - Flight
13 - Tornado
14 - This Is Clark Kent
15 - General Zod
16 - You Led Us Here
17 - You Die Or I Do
18 - Arcade
19 - Terraforming
20 - If You Love These People
21 - What Are You Going To Do When You Are Not Saving The World?
22 - Zimmer Sketchbook

I did not include This Is Madness since I think it's more of a demo track or something. Still not sure about "This Is Clark Kent", can't remember it in the film. I placed the sketchbook at the end, kinda like a very long credits track.

If you can remember more, please do tell, I really want everyone to have a chrono order of this awesome score.


Marco2013-06-17 12:29:19
Isn't 'you die or I do' after 'terraforming' but before 'if you love these people'?


Everan2013-06-17 16:14:25
I think the tracks goes where I put it and where you say it goes. I remember very well this particular track since they released a clip with Kal throwing Zod through a building and crashing on a gas station, and the track plays there so I put it there, sort of.

Need to see the film again to be sure.


Eric2013-06-17 18:35:22
Glad to see someone else is trying to sort this out as well. I think your list is really close. I moved This is Madness to the beginning of the film, I'm pretty sure it's played when Zod is introduced. Also, I'm 90% sure that "This is Clark Kent" is played during the final flashback to a young Clark at the end of the film, and serves as a lead to the Daily Planet and the end of the film.

Look To The Stars
This Is Madness!
DNA
Goodbye My Son
Ignition
Launch
I Will Find Him
Krypton's Last
Oil Rig
Are You Listening, Clark?
Sent Here For A Reason
I Have So Many Questions
Flight
Tornado
General Zod
You Led Us Here
Arcade
Terraforming
You Die Or I Do
If You Love These People
What Are You Going To Do When You Are Not Saving The World?
This Is Clark Kent
Man Of Steel (Hans' Original Sketchbook)

The only track I'm having problems placing is "Earth", which is a very quiet and peaceful track. I'm thinking it's after "I Have So Many Questions" but before "Flight", but I'm not sure.


Richard2013-06-21 19:17:04
Pretty sure "If You Love These People" is just that one scene. And Flight is one track. He takes off into the air, the first part plays. Then he crashes into a mountain, then flies again, where the second part plays.


Ds2013-06-21 19:26:22
The entire "If you love these people" track is the last part of Zod vs Superman fight. BUT the theme heard in that track comes also a couple of minutes earlier in the movie, between "Terraforming" and "You Die Or I Do". Only for a few seconds, but it's definitely there :)


D A R T H2013-06-24 10:21:24
all tracks from CD 2 are demos or remixes


Mike2013-06-24 21:54:30
Actually, D A R T H, "You Led Us Here" and "Are You Listening, Clark?" are cues. The rest of CD 2 is indeed suites and demos.


D A R T H2013-06-25 10:06:57
OK


Medigo2013-06-25 20:57:38
I believe 'You Die or I Do' is also slightly extended in the movie


Erin2013-06-25 22:43:11
Eric, your track listing is exactly the order I put the tracks in after I'd wanted to create a playlist that follows the film's plot progression (suites and remixes aside I felt they could still get put in an order roughly following plot chronology). I love this soundtrack and I'd wanted to recreate the experience of seeing the movie in music form and I think that order's a pretty solid one for that purpose.

As for "Earth," I'm still not sure where I ought to put it, either, so it's currently sitting at the bottom of the list after "What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving the World?" but before the bonus Sketchbook. Any recommendations where thematically or musically anyone feels it fits in nicely would be appreciated!


Drunkenmunkey2013-06-26 02:48:55
The first fight between Faora and Superman seems to use the arcade and later when faora is attacking the marines it goes into a mix of Arcade and This is Madness!


GarethW_12013-06-29 10:26:46
For what it's worth, I used Eric's order, but with a few tweaks. I put "Earth" between "Krypton's Last" and "oil Rig." I don't know if it's right chronologically, but listening to the full soundtrack, it fits quite well there. I also swapped "This is Clark Kent" and "What are you going to do..." around. Again, it may not be correct chronologically, but I think it works better that way round.


Radik2013-06-29 12:52:21
I love ''General Zod'' so powerful, epic, and sad at end make me cry Hans.. again <3 Perfect defines Zod's character with Michal Shannon's perfomance.. Excelent work Hans :)

Russel reply Replies: 1 || 2013-06-28 06:39:31
Anyone get the sessions yet? I hear their already out there.


Mike2013-06-28 07:26:53
In the words of Jason Bourne, "I doubt that".

NM reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-27 23:52:12
Love the soundtrack but the film was awful. And the music as used in the film was awful too. Pretty disappointed.

As a standalone album, it's still great though.

... reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-27 00:28:53
What happened to the great music for Lois Lane?
and some of the brass in the beginning...and different versions of the cello in DNA...

Anon reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-26 17:14:51
Really hope we get a full score for this one!! There some amazing cues that were completely left out on the OST

Man-the-fuck-up-of-steel reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-26 10:22:10
in Man of steel OST where is the missing part when jor-el tells Supes he is " the bridge between two peoples" (and sends him as Jesus to save us btw) all the way to Lois'rescue (that bit sounds like a thunderous Last Samurai )???
or are we in for another commercial spin to make us buy at the dvd release the latest collector edition that includes it? like the film additions cd to Braveheart...

GR7 reply Replies: 12 || 2013-06-24 09:40:41
Just reading the filmtracks (prohibited name here?) review of the score . --> "he [Zimmer] has landed himself in assignments not befitting his capabilities" This guy from filmtracks has so much crap in the brain....


Brent2013-06-24 10:00:40
That guy just drives me nuts.


Edmund Meinerts2013-06-24 11:06:07
He knows what he's talking about and I agree with a lot of his points in that Man of Steel review, even though it's overly harsh in a few places. I particularly agree with the way he picks apart Zimmer's interview words. I don't get how he (Zimmer) can set himself up as a champion of orchestral music when he's constantly slathering that orchestra with synth/sample overdubs that make the entire thing sound fake and cheap.

There's a difference between justified negative criticism and bashing, and I think a few people around here would do well to learn it.


0-cool2013-06-24 11:37:31
I don't think that Zimmer ever claimed to write orchestral/symphonic music.
He takes inspiration from many genres, like pop/rock/electronic


tomPoland2013-06-24 12:12:48
One star is a little too harsh, but guy has the point.
This music sounds cheap and fake, and Zimmer always talk big in interviews. HZ should take a break and rethink his career, or we will have that awful inception-sound in every future movie.


Star Trek FTW! :)


Meta2013-06-24 16:10:09
Filmtracks guy has a thing for Zimmer, so I usually tend to take his reviews of his works with a large grain of salt.

But if you ask me, Zimmer isn't the only one out there - just the most popular one - so really that reviewer needs to be more even keeled about his critical bashings, because he comes off more like who hates Zimmer first and foremost. And how can you really trust a score review with that kind of bias?

The man TOILS in picking apart Zimmer, you can tell there's some kind of vendetta going on there that I am not interested in associating myself with.


Master2013-06-24 20:33:14
Not necessarily a vendetta, he views zimmer as most people, including myself, view justin bieber; awful and a waste of talent. And any chance he gets, he likes to remind us all of that. It's not unusual to have absolute hatred towards something or someone now, is it?


Mike2013-06-24 20:36:50
The filmtracks guy has valid points, but it does seem like he's predisposed to dislike anything Zimmer makes these days. I agree with Meta: he toils in picking apart Zimmer. I don't like synthesizers and would gladly see them go. But if Hans can make a good score with them (and he usually can), then I'm not gonna get too worked up about it. The only modern Zimmer score that was too noticeably heavy on the synth was Inception, but honestly, I think that was more Lorne than Hans, since Lorne was the one who arranged the music in the film. The Mombasa suite does kinda sound like dubstep, so shame on Zimmer for that, but otherwise the really electronic stuff you're hearing is cues by Lorne Balfe based on Zimmer's themes (did I ever mention Lorne should get co-composer credit for that movie? :P).


Edmund Meinerts2013-06-24 21:19:50
I don't mind the use of synth in most cases. The way, say, John Powell or David Arnold integrate electronics is awesome, because they don't tamper with the orchestra and use the drum loops and such to expand the sonic palette, to do things that live instruments just can't. But the way Zimmer does it is by using not only unique synth textures, but also covering up the orchestral performance with sampled versions of the same instruments, which completely robs the live players of their organic sound. In certain cases, like Inception, it works...but then that Inception synth brass started being used in every single score (and trailer) and it got old REALLY quickly. I genuinely like the "What Will You...etc." cue, but it would sound SO much better if the brass was able to belt out that heroic theme without the "aid" of samples that really only make it sound cheap. Or take Oblivion, which is a Zimmer score in all but name, but which maintains a great organic sound by keeping its orchestral and electronic components separate.

The way Zimmer is doing it, I fear people will look back on his recent scores the same way we look back on Harold Faltermeyer today: yes, maybe it'll elicit a nostalgic grin or two, but it runs the risk of becoming extremely dated. The beautiful thing about orchestras is that they sounded the same 200 years ago and they'll sound the same 200 years from now...I hear a lot of folk claim that they're "old-fashioned", but in reality they're timeless. And that's why John Williams' Superman fanfare will live on when Man of Steel is forgotten.


Mike2013-06-24 21:44:30
Didn't AWE use a real orchestra? That might contribute to the reason it's such a good score...


Aragorn2013-06-24 21:49:44
"Or take Oblivion, which is a Zimmer score in all but name..."

Best comment ever. xD


Lucius2013-06-24 22:06:37
The guy at Filmtracks also said Revenge of the Sith was "the good but badly frayed edge" of the Star Wars scores, but if you ask me it was the most powerful and moving of all of them.


Edmund Meinerts2013-06-24 22:07:23
Even in At World's End the brass occasionally sounds a bit sample-ish (it shows in the uber-dramatic Davy Jones theme statement in "Crew Embarks"). I guess it's just something Zimmer likes to do. But yes, that score is easily one of Zimmer's most organic-sounding, which is just one of the reasons I love it so much.

GR7 reply Replies: 4 || 2013-06-23 14:06:04
We still dont have Hybrid's point of view on the score !


Hybrid Soldier2013-06-23 14:07:22
I've been listening to this score non-stop since last tuesday night... And I mean non-stop, haven't listened to anything else. Does that say enough to you ? :)


GR72013-06-23 20:34:57
:) I've been doing the same thing since friday night ;) The 28 min track, though it is clearly experiments of themes improved in the first CD, is wonderfull.
un petit mot de français comme Dujardin aux Oscars : Meerrrcccci Hansssssss !


Mike2013-06-24 04:15:49
Got a favorite track, Hybrid? Mine is definitely "What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving the World?". I also love "Arcade" and "Flight" a lot.


Ds2013-06-24 09:44:41
IF YOU LOVE THESE PEOPLE is imo the masterpiece of this album :p

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2013-06-24 05:31:45
Can someone tell me exactly what cues were used in the scene when Clark saved the school bus? I know it uses 0:32-1:30 in "Flight", but what was after/around that? Was the other stuff elsewhere on the OST or not? Also, when the dude found his truck after leaving the bar, was that the end of "This is Clark Kent" or just something like it?


Ds2013-06-24 09:43:37
For the bus scene, you're right and i don't think there's something else. In the truck scene you're also correct, it's basically the very end of This Is Clark Kent but the mix is a bit different.

Mike reply Replies: 9 || 2013-06-23 02:03:13
"Flight" is one of the few instances where I prefer the album version over the film version. The strings added in the film feel unnecessary and forced, in my opinion. Almost like "we need to do everything we can do make this scene blow people away, so here, let's add strings!" But the music already worked as-was. Either way, that was one of the best scenes I've watched in a while.


Richard2013-06-23 06:10:29
Yay, someone else who noticed the extra strings! :P


Ds2013-06-23 16:43:40
Val, this version is actually a part of the track "Original Sketchbook", followed by the 2nd part of the track "Flight", that's it :p


Val2013-06-23 16:50:27
Ah.. sorry ;-). Me, i'm always searching for the track played during the fall of the ship.. Or when he saves "someone" and i can't find it anywhere that's so frustrating because this song is so epic -_-


Ds2013-06-23 17:10:43
I'm afraid you won't find these bits until the recording sessions have leaked, but i don't think it's going to happen soon...


Val2013-06-23 21:33:09
Wait and see ..


Mike2013-06-24 04:10:55
Ds, you say you don't think the recording sessions will leak soon. Well, we got TDKR's recording sessions (or complete score or whatever it's technically called) a couple months before TDKR's DVD/Blu-Ray release. So it might not take too long. ;)


john2013-06-24 06:12:55
when jor el flys in the beginning what song its that too?

arcade?



Mike2013-06-24 06:24:47
That's DNA, John :)


Ash2013-06-24 08:47:51
I cant believe no one has mentioned the beautiful piano theme that is heard when Lois follows Clark and enters the ship. And I cant find it anywhere in the entire soundtrack. I would really appreciate some help finding the track!

john reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-24 06:11:43
when jor el flys in the beginning what song is that too?

Alex reply Replies: 1 || 2013-06-24 03:03:49
Does anybody know what part of the movie contains the last part of "General Zod"? The very last section of the song with the slow, sad version of his theme played with lots of strings.


Mike2013-06-24 04:08:33
It's not used in the film, sadly.

anon reply Replies: 4 || 2013-06-23 18:09:26
I've realized that while the music in this score is amazing, I find the mix and master make it very difficult for me to listen to. The strings are very poorly mixed (violins are all you can hear most of the time), brass sounds synthy in a lot of moments, and the drums tend to be too overwhelming (which I've never said about a Zimmer score, I always love his drums). The master is also weird. Too many high-mid frequencies and ridiculously extreme dynamics make it hard to listen to in casual environments (car, running with ipod, etc.)

Now, I have still yet to hear the 7.1 mix, so maybe that's better, but I'm really not a fan of the stereo mix/master.


Edmund Meinerts2013-06-23 23:29:19
Brass ALWAYS sounds synthy in Zimmer's scores, especially post-Inception. It's bloody annoying if you ask me. :/


Ds2013-06-24 00:18:52
Zimmer's brass: i'm loving it.


score_trader2013-06-24 02:03:32
exactly what I thought when I first heard the samples, if you won't want to lose your lunch, I wouldn't watch the featurette that has clips of the recording sessions. Everything sounded so much better on the microphone of the fucking film crew than in the actual sound track.


anon2013-06-24 02:26:07
Sadly, I have seen the featurette. It is sad how much clearer and better everything sounded on the built-in mic than than the CD...

Guitwo reply Replies: 5 || 2013-06-23 13:38:53
already saw the movie twice. the audio mixing is sometimes not as good as it could/should be.
the biggest problem of MoS is: Cinematography. really a pain in the *ss. i don't understand the need to make that camera shaky from the shot to the last one. it's unbelievable.


Ds2013-06-23 13:47:45
Usually i really don't like shaky-cam, but here i found it was well made. It brought a sense of speed and urgency, and made all these Super-men more believable. Photography was awesome too.

If you saw it in 3D i can believe this was a pain in the ass. Shaky-cam + postconversion = worst 3D ever.


Guitwo2013-06-23 13:50:28
oh and eventhough on the second viewing it was better I still think this movie lacks time to develop most of his characters (especially Zod). The relationship between the kent and why clark is important to them. Lois and Clark's relationship. i also, wanted to see clark becoming superman in a much longer time.


Guitwo2013-06-23 13:54:37
i saw it in Imax 3D. :D

i understand the need to shake things up during a fight scene or action sequence. What i don't understand is why shake your camera for a dialogue. I was not impressed with the mass destruction because i don't have time to focus on something or pay attention to the details. and you have all these zoom in/oun that are very transformers-like.


Ds2013-06-23 14:49:53
Actually i liked these zoom in/zoom out :p

I think your main problem was caused by the 3D. In 2D i had absolutely no problem to focus on every detail and to enjoy the mass destruction.

In the beginning everything seems to go a bit too fast but then there are a lot of flashback that really help to understand the characters and the relationships. I thought there was a lot of emotion throughout the movie, especially the scenes involving Kevin Costner, perfectly cast imo.


Guitwo2013-06-23 14:58:36
i think it's a matter of taste and personnal sensitivity :D haha


matthew reply Replies: 2 || 2013-06-22 22:06:09
yust saw the movie. I consider myself as a Zimmer fan.
sooo disappointed with the score as it was presented in the movie. the mixing was soo soft and under the sound effects.
when I heard This Is Madness! I thought this is too intense. I knew that this is an unused suite kind of thing. yust as almost the whole deluxe edition thing. oil rig is such a badass track, in the movie it's a fart. the first part of flight with the guitar, it's almost you can't hear a thing.
the classic zimmer choir sound (the end of Goodbye my son / the end of Terraforming) is murdered. simply it's not there.
when you see Morricone's L'arena in the Kill Bill OST release, before you see the movie, you know that it's gonna be fucking loud it's gonna be IN the movie and it's going to make 500 people breathe together. this is why the whole planet loves Tarantino. the reason why I'm soo angry is because I THINK Hans is an absolute world class composer. He is one of my favorite, he is the absolute best in remote control, he is still burning inside, still crazy, no lost spark.
so if you're in love with this score and you think it's great and it's full of Mr noise maker Hans Zimmer, then I don't recommend watching the movie.
so everybody crank up the Hi-Fi and blow up the world with this amazing score, from SuperHans!





Mike2013-06-22 22:12:38
As do others, I agree. The film score wasn't as good in the film as it is by itself.


Ds2013-06-23 10:49:20
The more blatant underusing is the drum orchestra. When listening to the album i thought "what a huge drum sound, that's really bad-ass!". In the movie? I could barely hear there were drums. The exact same result would've been achieved with only one drummer.

The beginning of Oil Rig was barely audible. The mid-part of Tornado too. It must've been a frustration for Hans. He did all these experiments "for pleasure" but someone thought there was no room for them in the movie...

Ds reply Replies: 8 || 2013-06-20 11:55:46
Honestly i thought the music in the movie was very good, but not as good as on the album. There's just so much noise in the action scenes that some of the best bits are just pushed in the background, like the mid-part of "Terraforming", which is a shame!

But i was very happy to hear "If You Love These People" in full length in the climax.


Mike2013-06-21 02:52:36
I agree. This was one of the few times where I preferred the ALBUM over the film score itself. And as I said previously, I thought the main Superman theme was underused. This was especially disappointing since the best form of it ("What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving the World?") was relegated to the end credits. That means most people wouldn't even have gotten to hear it, because most people leave pretty much as soon as the credits begin. So unless you are familiar with the score when you see the movie (like I was), you might leave thinking that Superman had no discernible theme at all.


Ds2013-06-21 10:05:26
Well, Clark Kent has the piano theme, which was very discernible. I'm sure everyone noticed it, and how beautiful it was.

Kal El has the theme heard in Goodbye My Son and Flight Part 2, epic and powerful (among others).

The real "Superman" isn't born until the very end of the movie, so it has sense the bombastic "main theme" comes only then. In my opinion, of course, and i think it's Hans' opinion too :-)


Edmund Meinerts2013-06-21 10:54:28
So the theme that's a total rip off of "Science and Religion" is Kal-El's theme. Good to know! ;)


Mike2013-06-21 20:24:48
The Superman theme is also used when Kal-El is born, when Clark lifts the bus out of the water, and when he steps out in the Superman suit. But still...I thought it would have merited a bit more use.


0-cool2013-06-21 21:03:35
I prefer the Kal El theme over the Superman one. I hope Zimmer doesn't ditch it for the sequel.
I could actually see him combine the 2 themes for ultimate epicness


Mike2013-06-21 21:45:54
Whoa...0-cool...I think you might be on to something. That'd be awesome! But something tells me the themes will remain separate. Kind of like the way Batman has the two notes and the "Dark Knight" theme, yet they never mesh.


Ds2013-06-22 15:13:27
Mike: the Superman theme is of course heard throughout the movie, but its 'bombastic' form only appears in the credits.

I'm sure it'll be used A LOT more in the sequel!


Mike2013-06-22 22:11:10
I just realized I was right: I said a while back that we should expect Hans to give Superman more than one theme, just like he gave Batman more than one theme, and he did. There's the Superman theme ("Look to the Stars", "Flight", "What Are You Going To Do When You Are Not Saving the World?"), the Kal-El theme ("Goodbye My Son", "Flight") and the Clark Kent piano theme--though it seems to me like the piano theme and the Superman theme may be the same tune. I can't really tell.

Aragorn reply Replies: 2 || 2013-06-22 00:30:01
What in the world is the point of Flight Part 2 if it's just the second half of a track already on the album?


meta2013-06-22 03:50:46
PROMOTION, my dear fellow....



tomPoland2013-06-22 08:27:24
Hype and PR, 2 things that make Zimmer so loved by his fans.

TRU4T reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-21 23:40:58
i had a good time in MoS china premiere. Music in RealD system hall was so hard to be heard clearly. but next day in IMAX hall, everything is crytal clear. especially "If You Love These People" in the final battle scences with the massive sound effects. oh! a eater egg for fans for Zack and Hans at the very end of the film.

Big hoss reply Replies: 3 || 2013-06-18 06:36:28
When Clark steals the clothes from the mans truck, the song that is playing in the background....what is it called????


Meta2013-06-18 06:43:37
Oh that's a 90s golden oldie of grunge goodness....

Is it Soundgarden? or Pearl Jam...

cant remember....


Big hoss 2013-06-18 07:04:21
Thanks!!
It was "seasons" by Chris Cornell


David2013-06-21 19:24:01
You can find "Seasons" on the 1992 Singles soundtrack

Pierre reply Replies: 3 || 2013-06-20 15:17:53
Why the HELL does anyone care what "Hybrid" thinks of the score?


Martin2013-06-20 19:12:05
Agree !
JNH, Horner or Goldsmith OK ; but this guy ? I really don't care


tomPoland2013-06-21 11:50:59
We all know that he will rate it at least 4,5/5.


Score itself is like 3/5 max.


So far, only Star Trek didn't dissapoint me - Giacchino knows how to write powerfull and intelligent orchestral music.


PS. Brian Tyler is taking over Marvel Cinematic Universe!


Richard2013-06-21 19:11:14
Why the hell does anyone care if you care what Hybrid thinks of the score?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2013-06-20 19:17:30
Little story about why Geoff Zanelli isn't credited at all.

Simple, he started at a very early stage of the scoring, arranging some HZ ideas in the first couple of weeks of scoring. But then he left to focuse on Lone Ranger. So he didn't work on any final "score cue" (so didn't take credit at all), his worked is more like "melted" in the original ideas... :)


Aytekin2013-06-20 21:41:54
Ok and what about Satnam Ramgotra !! must be credited as musician, huh ?


Hybrid Soldier2013-06-20 22:46:03
He's added !!!!!!! You happy ??? :P

Val reply Replies: 5 || 2013-06-19 19:04:26
Does someone know something about the only track which does not take part of the score ? ( playing twice when MOS saved L***). There's still nothing on the web.. Help me please !


Mike2013-06-19 20:38:40
You might hear about it if/when the complete score gets out...


Hybrid Soldier2013-06-19 20:43:45
I think it's HZ with arrangements by Junkie.


Val2013-06-19 21:16:43
Mike, you think another complete score will be release ? I hope .. Thanks. I will find it !


Pieter2013-06-19 22:52:22
Dude how is L*** not a spoiler:P


Val2013-06-20 11:29:23
Pieter, because it's a movie about superman. :P

Leo reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-20 08:06:04
Like pretty much everyone on this site, I wonder what Hybrid thinks of the score. Also, when the name of the composers which wrote each cue will show up?

Paul reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-20 01:04:04
Anyone know a release date for the Z+ app on android?

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-19 20:37:12
Hybrid, did Zimmer work with JunkieXL on "General Zod" and "Arcade", or was JunkieXL alone, simply imitating Zimmer's style? iTunes credits both of them, but we know never to trust official credits. lol. The end of "General Zod" sounds distinctly Zimmer-like, but, to quote Jim Gordon, "I've been wrong before".

Jimmy reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-19 03:27:34
Hybrid, your reaction, please. :P

Robert reply Replies: 1 || 2013-06-19 00:16:00
I bought the two-disc, limited edition version of the soundtrack and it seems the volume leveling is quite low. I have to turn up the volume quite high to hear the full score. Has anyone experienced this or could this be a coding issue on my copy? I have not yet listened to it with headphones, only in my car at this time. Thanks.


Mike2013-06-19 00:22:50
I got the deluxe version via iTunes and didn't really notice it. The only time I experienced that was in "This is Clark Kent". The main part was a little too quiet, then the end was mega-loud.

Geoffrey reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-18 22:47:54
Hi ! I have a litte question.
Is the 2 discs edition is the same in Europe and USA or the package is a little bit different ? Thanks for answering ;-)

Bane reply Replies: 2 || 2013-06-14 07:01:02
In the movie, there's a little piano motif for anytime Lois kinda..does detective work. Is this on the album?


Mike2013-06-14 08:50:00
No idea. Haven't seen the film yet. If there hasn't been an answer by the time I see it, I'll let you know.


Bane2013-06-18 07:18:28
Just came back, and sadly it isn't. :/

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