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I was this tracklist for a 3rd cd floating around, is this legit ?<br><br><br>Disc 1  <br>1.  Planet Earth II Suite  <br>2.  The Sloth<br>3.  Home To Dragons<br>4.  Albatross Dance<br>5.  Racer Snakes vs Iguanas<br>6.  Chinstrap Penguins<br>7.  Singing Indri<br>8.  Competing Hummingbirds<br>9.  Life In The Canopy<br>10. Jungle Weather<br>11. Night Crawlers<br>12. World of Bioluminescence<br>13. Wilson's Bird-of-Paradise<br>14. Something Worth Protecting<br>15. Life Without Water<br>16. Monsoon Deserts/Canyonlands<br>17. Lions vs Giraffe<br>18. The Butcher Bird<br>19. Wild Horses<br>20. Desert Nightlife/Golden Mole<br>21. Long-Eared Bat vs Scorpion<br>22. Early Morning Fog<br><br>Disc 2 <br>1.  Roof Of The World<br>2.  Peaks of North America<br>3.  The Ibex<br>4.  The Himalayas<br>5.  Flight Over Alps<br>6.  Ice Skating Flamingos<br>7.  Dancing Bears<br>8.  Tenacious Bobcat<br>9.  Garden of Ice<br>10. Snow Leopards<br>11. Savage Beauty<br>12. Nomadic Life<br>13. Hunting Buffalo Herds<br>14. The Okavango<br>15. Carmine Bee Eaters<br>16. Industrious Insects<br>17. The Great Migration<br>18. The Unnatural Habitat<br>19. Langurs of Jodhpur<br>20. Temple Gardens<br>21. Market Thieves<br>22. Illuminated<br>23. City Skylines<br>24. Starlings<br>25. Toronto Raccoons<br>26. We Are The Designers<br>27. Epilogue<br><br>Disc 3<br>1. Harvest Mouse<br>2. Jumping Widowbirds<br>3. The Red Fox<br>4. Cacti<br>5. Harris Hawks<br>6. Draco Lizard<br>7. Glass Frog vs Wasp<br>8. Galapagos<br>9.  Zavodovski Island<br>10. The Great Bower Bird  <br>11. Wels Catfish    <br>12. Frozen NightAbout his studio at RCP, is it rental or he owns the stuff? What happens to the gear when he is not around?That is probably the fairest thing anyone on this website will say about Clemmensen. :P@Anonymous<br><br>Christian Clemmensen believes that Hans Zimmer found his definitive voice back in the 1990s with scores such as Driving Miss Daisy, Rain Man, Crimson Tide, and Lion King. However, he has in reviews of later scores compared Zimmer's overly obvious chord progressions and masculinity with what the "rock ballad" did to rock-n'roll music of the '70s. To him, it's overly powerful, unsubtle, and aggressive music that appeals to the gut more than the heart or the mind. Some of Zimmer's most popular scores such as Gladiator, Pirates, and The Dark Knight he has given middling reviews for because the general sound is derivative from his earlier works, not colorful, and not creative. He also accuses Zimmer of starting a trend with overly-recycled, bombastic, masculine action music that's big on density and power and low on subtlety and personality. <br><br>I can definitely see where he's coming from, one cannot deny the similarities between Crimson Tide, Lion King, Gladiator, Pirates, Dark Knight and so forth. One also cannot deny that scores such as Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049 qualify more as sound design than actual symphonic music (mostly). However, if he had his way, every film score would be shamelessly optimistic and flighty, all major chords (and occasionally alternating off-key), with prominent woodwinds and metallic percussion. He definitely knows what he's talking about, but he has an ideal image for film music in mind, and that very much comes through in his Zimmer reviews, some of which I think deserve much more credit than he offered (Pirates 3, Da Vinci Code, and Gladiator come to mind).a more orchestral fury road
Tom is gonna score Mortal Engines<br>What kind of sound do you expect?He has a studio at RCP but mostly work from his own home studio. His business is "Sacred Tiger Music."<br>Does Henry actually work for HZ at RCP or does he have his own film score company now like HGW?Why filmtracks always behave very Aggressive about hans zimmer and always trys to make his scores worthless ??!! Its odd for meAw Hell...<br><br>I guess it never did freeze over.
Sorry, I should've been more specific. This is a comment I had originally posted on the Filmtracks forum, NOT from a Christian Clemmensen review. My bad.Referring to the previous comment (how did it not reply to the the previous message?)That's not the actual review. The length is a pretty big giveaway. Also, I'm fairly certain he's still given some RCP efforts some good scores.WOW....color me impressed at Filmtracks. I thought that site was anti-Zimmer in all aspects far, wide, near and dear.Copied from Filmtracks:<br><br>Excellent score - a little slow in the middle third*, but some really stirring fantasy-adventure elsewhere. "The Internet" is Cue of the Year material. Although it's odd how little synth there is here, particularly in the finale, where the orchestra seems to completely take over; this isn't too bad of a thing because Jackman's orchestral skills are downright breathtaking at times. The references to other Disney scores/musicals (yes, including Star Wars) left a big dumb grin on my face.<br><br>*I get the sense that this movie might be too long (1 hour and 52 minutes).
No you're not. I think Jackman has made some great score over the last through years.<br>And I think this is one of them. Both tracks with or without electronicsSo I guess I'm the only one who likes less-electronic-Henry?Henry has been removing electronics for 4 years now...Listen to<br><br>A Big Strong Man In Need Of Rescuing.<br><br>That whole track is a damn easter eggI haven't seen the movie yet but I like the score more with each listen. Not a classic Zimmer by any means but still an enjoyable listen at its short running time. Looking forward to the movie as well.
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Hans ZimmerJohn PowellLorne BalfePaul Mounsey
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Kung Fu Panda 2 (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 83'46
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  1. Ancient China - Story Of Peacock (2:44)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  2. Dumpling Warrior - Late For Training (1:25)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  3. Inner Peace (2:26)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  4. Wolf Attack (1:20)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  5. Dragon Noodle Warrior (2:51)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  6. Gongmen City - Masters Spar - Shen Reclaims Palace (2:50)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  7. Save Kung Fu - Journey To Gongmen City (3:57)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  8. Po Dreams Of Parents (1:35)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  9. Daddy Issues - Shen's Palace (5:03)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  10. Stealth Mode - Entering The City (4:11)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  11. Gongmen Jail (2:51)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  12. Rickshaw Chase (2:36)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  13. Surrender Palace (2:16)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  14. Face To Face (4:09)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  15. More Cannons (3:39)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  16. The Hardcore Do Understand (0:56)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  17. Shen Frees Southsayer - Fireworks Factory (6:57)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  18. Po Finds The Truth (Part 1) (1:03)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  19. Po Finds The Truth (Part 2) (0:43)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  20. Po Finds The Truth (Part 3) (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  21. Invasion Begins - Po Returns (2:27)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  22. Po Throws Hat (0:13)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  23. Free The Five (3:39)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  24. The Future Is Here - Zen Ball Master (3:50)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  25. Po Defeats Shen - Reunion - My Son Is Alive (4:55)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  26. Dumpling Warrior Remix (3:31)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Junkie XL
  27. Stealth Mode - Entering The City (Alternate) (4:04)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  28. More Cannons (Alternate Ending) (0:34)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  29. The Future Is Here - Zen Ball Master (Alternate) (3:51)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
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Madiyar reply Replies: 1 || 2018-05-04 16:00:44
Hello. Does anyone have notes? Full Score for Orchestra?


BandGeek47962018-05-07 12:37:05
I wish I knew, Iíve been looking all over for it because it sounds so incredibly awesome.

Iamtommie reply Replies: 1 || 2017-10-23 00:14:39
Everybody is talking about Shen's Theme. I just can't figure out what his theme really is.
Could someone please note where in wich song and at what time his theme appears?

Thanks very much!


Edmund Meinerts2017-10-23 15:07:54
Just listen to "Invasion Begins", it's almost like a small suite of Shen's theme.

Pablo Reyes reply Replies: 1 || 2016-11-19 03:41:44
Since the very first time I heard the "Lost & Found" theme from HTTYD 2 I noticed it shared a few notes with Shen's theme, so I made this: /watch?v=HMQTiimsdPg
What do you guys think? I think Shen's theme might be Powell ;) but the again, you can never be sure about who composed what.


Mike2016-11-19 16:23:17
You're correct - Hybrid confirmed a while back that Powell did Shen's theme.

mittens reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-12 15:48:57
Yup, this is only expanded score. Just saw the list of cues from sessions, more than half of them is missing.

NM reply Replies: 8 || 2015-02-27 19:26:35
"More Cannons" one of Balfe's best cues. Listened to it today and it was great! That is all.


Mike2015-02-27 20:19:51
This whole score has some great cues by Lorne Balfe. In Zimmer's own words, "Lorne Balfe was really a hero on that score." :P


Mike2015-02-27 20:37:28
(And by the looks of it, Balfe did more work here than Zimmer did... lol).


Edmund Meinerts2015-02-27 22:16:52
Yeah, you can kind of tell Balfe worked on that one when the Megamind rhythm kicks in 30 seconds before the end. The rest of the cue sounds more Powellish to me though.


Zimson2015-02-28 00:08:51
We already had this discussion but "More Cannons" is basically a variation on the track "Hero" from the first movie which, as we can all agree was mostly done by Powell. That explains the "Powellish" sound.



Mike2015-02-28 00:31:40
Besides, didn't Hybrid say Lorne "mimicked" Powell's sound for the end of My Son is Alive? It wouldn't be a stretch to assume he did so for other parts of the score, too.


NM2015-02-28 07:40:14
I dunno Edmund, all of "More Cannons" sounds like Balfe to me. It has the "Shen" rhythm running throughout the entire track as its foundation. And listen to the quick trumpet writing, it's the same sort you hear in Megamind, and even in "Zen Ball Master". The swirling woodwinds and strings sound very Powellish though, and the ascending scales at 1:51 sound like a Zimmer contribution.

@Mike - "My Son is Alive" sounds exactly like Lorne though.


Edmund Meinerts2015-02-28 12:18:27
Yes, because Powell never uses quick trumpet writing... :p

I can hear both composers' voices, but Powell's is simply a stronger voice...so his sound tends to dominate for me, even though it may well be an even collaboration. "My Son is Alive/My Fist Hungers for Justice" sounds more like "pure" Balfe to me, although ironically the theme owes a lot to How to Train Your Dragon!

The Zimmerish ascending scales are a holdover from the bridge cue from the first KFP, so I'm guessing it's an adaptation of a Zimmer idea by Powell/Balfe.

Geesh, what a clusterfuck all this is. I guess it's old-fashioned of me to say this, but why can't we just have ONE guy compose everything, no confusion, no fuss? :p


NM2015-03-02 22:30:27
Hah, well it doesn't bother me. I think it's cool when you get a couple of people going at it and high quality work results, which still has a coherent narrative. It's fun to try and pick out the different contributions.

The problem is when it becomes a "too many cooks" thing and you just end up with something disjointed. Thankfully, this score is far from.

"Yes, because Powell never uses quick trumpet writing... :p"

Haha, I can't quite describe the difference. Lorne's stuff is more... rhythm I guess? I mean Powell to me is more "Free the Five", which is more dynamic and exuberant I suppose. "More Cannons" has a harsh edge to it which evokes Balfe/Zimmer. Perhaps you're right and it genuinely was a real collaboration there with different ideas pitched in.

"The Zimmerish ascending scales are a holdover from the bridge cue from the first KFP"

Reminds me a lot of "Chess" actually.

Kardo_Fury reply Replies: 0 || 2014-10-26 06:38:13
Is there anyway you can dl this?

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2014-02-04 03:59:37
Did Paul Mounsey do the entire first cue, or just part of it? Because the audio file only has the Story of Shen part, and that in turn was on Zimmer's page when the audio player was there....


Mike2014-02-04 15:24:55
Not sure, but it's really amazing how difficult it can be to tell each composer apart in here (besides Po Finds the Truth, most of which is obviously Zimmer). The rest sounds like Powell, but was supposedly Zimmer's contribution due to the Lorne Balfe credits...

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-08-01 15:43:22
So is Paul Mounsey to John Powell what Lorne Balfe is to Hans Zimmer? lol


Mike2013-08-01 15:46:02
That might indeed be fair to say. Mounsey has been on quite a few Powell projects (The Lorax, How To Train Your Dragon, Happy Feet Two, Kung Fu Panda 2, Mars Needs Moms, and probably more) and we all know how often Lorne works alongside Zimmer. :)


Anon12013-08-01 15:49:07
Mounsey also worked on Horton Hears a Who, Rio, Green Zone, Knight and Day, Ice Age 3 and 4, Fair Game, and Bolt--so yes, I would say he is like the Lorne Balfe of John Powell's projects.


J.A.J.2013-08-02 02:48:18
Mounsey also wrote additional music for Epic, which probably explains why parts of Danny Elfman's score sound eerily similar to John Powell's work. It's likely that the folks at Blue Sky Studios wanted to hire Powell for the umpteenth time but couldn't because of his hiatus, so they hired Mounsey (along with Elfman) to write Powell-y music.

Ted reply Replies: 2 || 2013-05-21 02:50:09
Can anyone tell me why this list doesn't seem to include "1m10/11 Father Son & Baby Po?" Was it not recorded?


Mike2013-05-21 03:58:12
This is only the "expanded score", not the "complete score".


Ted2013-05-21 22:31:10
Just thought I'd ask since it's the only thing that seems to be missing. Thanks for your answer!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 7 || 2013-05-17 13:25:45
Here you go... :)


Jimmer2013-05-17 15:59:18
Oh how I want this!!!


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-17 16:02:23
It's out there, Jimmer...


Jimmer2013-05-17 17:22:09
Edmund, thank you. I didn't know this had leaked yet.


Anonymous2013-05-18 21:01:10
Goodness, so many HZ scores leaked this week. In fact, its been a good year or so for HZ fans (as far as leaked scores haha). I wonder what happened all of a sudden. Definitely hoping for more in the next couple of months. Maybe Pearl Harbor or Hannibal will come soon. At least, thats what I hope haha.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-18 23:45:15
It's been an absolutely amazing year for leaked complete scores in general! I have a huge backlog of them that I haven't even gotten around to listening to yet. Maybe some disgruntled RC employee quit and rage-uploaded all of them. :p

But...hasn't the complete Pearl Harbor been around for ages?


Anonymous2013-05-20 18:04:07
I don't think so. The only thing I've seen is a promo or expanded with a couple of new cues. The complete hasn't leaked, as far as I know.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-20 18:51:50
Really? My version is about 102 minutes...maybe not 100% complete for a film as long as Pearl Harbor but hardly just a promo with a couple of additional cues. I've had it for long enough that I don't even remember where I got it.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2013-05-19 00:12:12
"Maybe some disgruntled RC employee quit and rage-uploaded all of them"

LOL I can assure you it's not what happened ! :)


Ds2013-05-19 00:36:28
So basically HZ leaked them himself in an act of generosity towards his beloved fans? :p


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-19 01:34:21
Oh, I know. But wouldn't it be a funny story if it was? XD


cheesy2013-05-19 05:48:31
More like Hans had the idea to leak it and then got five different Magic Box composers to upload each file individually.


Mr. Fate2013-05-19 20:26:14
What? Only two composers make up the group Magic Box Music: John Sponsler and Tom Gire.

Mike reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-17 20:48:17
This is one of the few scores with Zimmer music where I'd say most of the notable stuff was released (the others being The Dark Knight in its 2-disc form, At World's End with all the suites from the Treasures Collection, The Last Samurai, Gladiator, and Crimson Tide).


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-17 22:16:38
Well, yeah, the complete score here is only about 15 minutes longer than the regular album. Powell animated scores (which this really is more than a Zimmer effort) tend to have pretty good releases that contain most if not all of the music, and always all of the really important stuff.

As for your other ones, I agree with all of them except At World's End. The Treasures Collection suites were definitely an absolute godsend, but that still didn't include Maelstrom Pt. 1 or Liftoff, which are both absolutely essential cues IMO.


Mike2013-05-17 22:26:55
Powell animated scores do tend to get good treatment. How to Train Your Dragon was an excellent album. And you're right, Maelstrom pt. 1 and Liftoff are great pieces, which is why I intentionally said the scores contain MOST of the notable stuff. ;)


Aragorn2013-05-17 22:33:14
Another great Powell release was Chicken Run!

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