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Not as simply as that.... Training is Ramin's arrangement of a Hans theme, and the core of Mr. Charles when the Fischer theme isn't playing is a Hans idea, too, as far as I know. Take the Zimmer out and those moments wouldn't be the same.I think Balfe working with Nolan would have done a great jobBob,The Training is basically Ramin Djawadi and Mr.Charles is BalfeI hope these two team up again. Zimmer's score is the main driving force for some memorable scenes. Just a few<br>Batman Begins-The Training<br>TDK- Joker crash the party, Gordon's speech and ending<br>Inception - Time, Mr.Charles, <br>TKDR - the climb, imagine the fire and orphan<br>Interstellar-Stay, Docking, coward, mountain<br>Dunkirk - well the entire movieJustin Hurwitz I can see. I enjoyed La La Land and First Man. But Both Hurwitz and Göransson are several notches above Lorne Balfe. <br><br>I think 80/100 directors would rather work with Göransson than Balfe.
I really believe that Nolan has made a mistake as a composer.I think Lorne Balfe, David Julyan or Justin Hurwitz would be much better options than Ludwig Goransson.Interesting news. <br><br>Geoff Zanelli is one of those composers who I’ve loved his additional music over his solo efforts, Pirates 5 excluded. I hope he gets a chance to write some great fantasy music for this, regardless if he reuses JNH’s themes or not.I think I am the only one, who would be glad about David Julyan return.<br><br>I really like his music for early Nolan's films, especially Insomnia, and it's what i can call an "atmospheric experience".<br><br>Don't know how his music fits for espionage timetraveling movie, but, for me, i'st would be something interesting to hear.@mpolonest123: those Pemberton scores are indeed pure gold, very cool on album but insanely good in the movie. My favorite is still his King Arthur, that was a beast of a score that stuck with the movie like glue and really enhanced Guy Ritchie's dark, twisted, trippy vision.*3 things
Sure, but there's two things to consider. <br>1). Pirates has such an iconic sound that it'd be really stupid for them to suddenly abandon it at #5. Especially when we hired the guy who has worked on the previous 4. 2). Maleficent, as successful as it was to warrant a sequel, isn't quite as well known in the score department, despite being well received by those who have heard it. 3). Because Zanelli worked on all Pirates, he had enough familiarity with the sounds and motifs that he knew where to go once he led the ship. In Maleficent's case, he's taking over from a previous composer, and is working with a director who likely only knows his work on POTC5. As such, there's no knowing yet if he might be compelled to continue on from JNH, or if it's decided he just does his own thing.<br><br>I'm happy that Geoff at the very least has a safe career at Disney, considering two of their recent live action successes has had him involved. However, considering I hear his recently work hasn't been his best, JNH likely would've benefited from returning to a world that had some of his best material after he wasn't given the opportunity to do so with Glass. As such, it really is a severely missed opportunity, even if newer blood is getting more opportunities.Just listening to this again. It really is a best of both score. What I think is so great, is that you can hear both of the brothers' own voice but they blend so well together!! Really really great score!<br><br>It's a really remarkable score, the swifts in tone between dramatic and jazz is top-notch. It's higher on favorite list from 2019 already, than I thought it would ever be.<br><br>Give me more Gregson-Williams brothers scores!!!!!!I was hoping for JNH, but we'll see what he does. JNH's themes were amazing zo it would be stupod not to use them. But he used the Pirates themes, so I'm feeling actually quite ok about itTrue, but he didn’t really get credit for The Lone Ranger or any of the Pirates films other than #5... those are billed strictly as HZ scores. I would say Christopher Robin likely was a result of the success of his Pirates score, and Timothy Green wasn’t really a Disney tentpole release. Maleficent isn’t a Marvel or Star Wars level tentpole, but it is still a blockbuster film that I think he’ll do an awesome job with.@Mephariel - you’re right. However Interstellar and Inception, musically speaking, are simple scores. They are moving, beautiful, and masterpieces, but still simple. Which is great! <br><br>But if we are wanting Zimmer to return to a type of music, I’d much rather prefer something along the lines of Pirates, The Rock, The Last Samurai, Crimson Tide, etc. Tonally, of course it would be more modern and new, but melodically a return to those forms would be a dream come true.
Geoff has done several other Disney projects besides Pirates 5.  (All Pirates movies since the first, Lone Ranger, Christopher Robin, Odd Life of Timothy Green). And I have to say that I would rather JNH return for the sequel, as that would allow him to expand on his fantastic score for the first film.@George<br><br>To be fair, Interstellar is a genuine masterpiece score and maybe one my favorite score of all time, but I am not sure when Nolan will allow Zimmer to return to that type of scoring. <br><br>Hell, Time is my favorite cue ever, but again, I am not sure if Nolan is interested in that kind of music anymore.  <br><br>I guess we will see with Tenet. And yes, I absolutely think Göransson can be a future star in the making and if anyone is allow write his or her own "Time" cultural moment, it may as well be him.@mephariel @mpolonest123 - glad I’m not the only one who’s more excited for those compared to cold and dark Nolan/Zimmer scores. I’m kinda over those to be honest.And if I’m completely honest, I’m more excited by WW84, Spongebob, Top Gun, and Dark Phoenix than another potential Nolan collab.@mephariel <br>I can definitely see that, especially with King Arthur and Spiderverse. I do think his music adds a lot to the films he scores (Steve Jobs and Man From Uncle being two great examples) where he consistently switches up styles and tones to keep things fresh. Maybe not the strongest theme writer but I do love his approaches.
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Tom Holkenborg (Junkie XL)Christian VorlanderStephen PeroneEmad Borjian
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Paranoia
Label: Relativity Music Group
Length: 33'33
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  3. Fit In To Get In (2:53)
  4. Candid Camera (4:12)
  5. Adam 2.0 (1:45)
  6. On Your Knees (1:55)
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Felix reply Replies: 4 || 2014-10-23 01:08:56
Cue List:

ALMOST CAUGHT PT 1
ALMOST CAUGHT PT2
ARREST
ARRESTED AGAIN
BEGINNERS LUCK
BOUNCER
BREAK UP
BREAKING INTO THE VAULT
CARPARK PARTY
CHASING ADAM
CRUSHING LUNCH
DAD S ADVICE
DESTROYING THE APARTMENT
ELKON BRIEFING TRANSITION
EMMA S VOICEMAIL
FBI
FIRST DAY AT ELKON
GODDARD S INVENTION
GOING TO THE HOSPITAL
HACKING EMMA S COMPUTER
HERE IS SOME MONEY DAD
I WANTED YOU TO FIGHT
I M PAYING 40C
KISS
LETS GO FOR A RIDE
MILES MEACHUM
MIRACLE WORKER
NEW APARTMENT
OPENING PARANOIA
PARANOIA CLOSING
PRESENTATION
SPOON FINGERPRINT
STILL PAY FOR THE CAB
TAKE ME HOME
THINGS I WANNA TELL YOU
TO THE COMPOUND
TRAINING MONTAGE
WAKE UP
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT
WYATT S THREAT
YOU ONLY HAVE ONE SHOT
YOU WANT MORE
YOU WERE RIGHT
Z AXIS TENSION BUILD


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-23 09:37:21
Oh please don't play the kid that just found a new toy, it reminds me to much of myself from 6 years ago... lol


FBI2015-03-26 23:36:36
LOL HYBRID, I LIKE YOU SO FOR DELETING ALL :D


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-27 01:49:37
We all know the rules. Don't like getting your posts deleted? Follow them.


Damien, Moderator2015-03-27 20:45:52
Wrong assumption, it is not Hybrid that deleted the posts.

Ds reply Replies: 1 || 2013-12-04 23:15:54
A new "300: Rise of an Empire" trailer was just released. It contains some really great music, could it be something from Junkie XL? It reminds me of some pieces of "Man of Steel". If it's a taste of the actual score i tell you it's amazing.


Ds2013-12-04 23:48:27
Nevermind, i just found out it's an Audiomachine track.

0-cool reply Replies: 17 || 2013-10-12 21:33:15
according to his twitter, it seems like he has been hired to score the new Mad Max movie


Macejko2013-10-12 22:14:28
Anyone who is not Beltrami is fine by me.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-12 22:55:44
So many names have been floating around that one. Beltrami, Powell, Christopher Young...Honestly, I would have been fine with any of those guys. Powell is practically my favorite composer, Young is awesome and doesn't get enough big work, and it's the sort of territory Beltrami thrives in...dark with a humorous twist. Any of those three would have done a great score I think.

And the best they could come up...is Junkie XL? That's just lame.


Ds2013-10-13 01:31:24
Edmund, right now we can't really judge Junkie XL abilities in film scoring (this one doesn't really count to me). I won't judge him until i hear what he'll come up with for 300: Rise of an Empire.


trent easton navarro2013-10-16 23:01:55
Not sure how one goes from Brian May to Maurice Jarre to Junkie XL, but we'll see how it turns out. And who knows, maybe he'll be replaced also.

Would have preferred Beltrami though. Like Edmund said, this is really something right up his alley


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-17 13:30:20
I'm just not really sure what Mr. XL has done to deserve not just one, but TWO big movies like this. What is there in his discography that shows he'd be able to handle a large-scale historical epic like the 300 sequel? A couple of remixes and the odd bit of additional music...Just goes to show that it pays to be friends with Hans Zimmer in Hollywood. :/


Ds2013-10-17 18:53:39
Maybe some Warner Bros. producers (or Zack Snyder himself) really loved Junkie XL's cues from Man Of Steel, and thought his style would fit the 300 sequel.

The same happened to Steve Jablonsky. Michael Bay found his contributions to Bad Boys II so amazing that he hired him for his next project.


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-17 19:09:04
It's not "maybe", it's what happened. And it was Zack Snyder actually... :)


Ds2013-10-17 20:14:52
Oh yay so i was right!! Thanks Hybrid :p


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-17 22:11:02
Meh. I wasn't a fan of Man of Steel in the first place, and even among that score, I thought Junkie XL's tracks were among the least interesting. I think it's pretty clear by this point that Zack Snyder and I have...pretty different musical tastes.

They should've gotten Elliot Goldenthal. :p


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-17 22:21:12
But thankfully the world doesn't turn around what you want ! :P


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-17 22:35:55
Thankfully for everyone who's not me, I guess... XD


MacArthur2013-10-18 07:20:29
Ed I thought General Zod was a beautiful track and I also Thought that XL didn't just get hired because he was with Zimmer maybe his style is something that Snyder liked the type of cues that he brings to the table fit the film.

And MoS was an awesome soundtrack That one and Rush were the two best of the year so far.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-18 11:52:12
We agree to disagree. :)


Mike2013-10-18 14:37:16
I'll agree that the last 3 minutes of General Zod were noteworthy....even though they sounded like a hazy mix of Marry Me from At World's End and the Camerlengo Suite from Angels & Demons. I have a feeling, Hybrid, that the last three minutes of the General Zod suite was Zimmer, then the stuff before that was JunkieXL?


0-cool2013-10-18 16:09:08
Zimmer probably did the adagio


MacArthur2013-10-18 17:29:09
I agree Zimmer probably did the cool stuff XL seems like the rhythmic Type


MacArthur2013-10-18 17:54:54
Although I do Agree with you Ed on the Fact that XL has Had an awkward career. In terms of only working on 3 cues in MoS (Which I credit to Zimmer anyway because they are basically his stuff just re-arranged) and Additional music here and there he hasen't done much. Although I give him credit cause...hey you got to start somewhere.

Felix reply Replies: 3 || 2013-09-10 22:49:35
listen to it now and its very good


JackieStewart2013-09-11 13:36:46
It is! A proof that Tom can do much more than poor remixes...


Evenstar2013-09-11 14:44:28
poor remixes? He is one of the only composers who actually do some very good remixes imo!


JackieStewart2013-09-11 14:53:09
I've never been a huge fan of any of them. I'd say they were "listenable", but far from being really good. Imho.

Peter reply Replies: 2 || 2013-08-03 19:47:26
First single composition before 300: II, looking to listen.


Cody2013-08-05 17:24:13
i sure hope this is good!!!


JamesT2013-08-14 22:07:40
I'm REALLY liking this!

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