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Extremely pleased with the release, remastering, and liner booklet notes.  Nice to finally have all of this music.  Sure, some things could have been done differently, like anything else.  I'll be enjoying a thorough listen this weekend, and may watch the film again, as it's been years.The Thin Red Line >> The New World....Good for you?I don't like Hans Zimmer, James Horner is my favorite.Uhh, I don't electronic music ain't gonna work on Alita Battle Angel.
Jasha just released a neat little piano album!<br>Go check it out: https://itunes.apple .com/no/album/time-lapse-ep/1452867752My only real gripes left with the score is the somewhat uninspired choral writing (and the fact that the choir sounds like samples in a lot of moments) and the reused percussion samples from every JXL action score ever since Mad Max.After repeated listens of the score and seeing the film 3 times, I'd say now that the score is MUCH better than I initially gave it credit for.<br>Alita's theme (the 4 notes first heard at 1:53 in A Discovery) is used many times throughout the score in many instrumental varieties and variations, and used to great effect in emotional scenes<br>(I Don't Even Know My Own Name, What's Your Dream?, In Time You'll Remember, With Me, I'd Give You My Heart, What Did You Do), In the Clouds especially)<br>And do yourself a favor and get I See Church from somewhere, it's the 2nd best action track of the score after Motorball.<br>--------------------<br>In short, I would now give it a 4.5 / 5 from my previous 3 / 5Hybrid, what's the story with Finale vs. Safe Now? On this page Finale is listed as Jackman and Zimmer. On the OST page, it's Jackman, Zimmer, & Jasha Klebe. The two versions are different too. Finale has a longer intro and a big outro that makes the Time thing even more obvious. So are they two different tracks with different credits, or is Safe Now just Finale clipped short?Oh man, that's a tough question...I haven't listened to Curse of the Black Pearl in a while.... He's credited on almost every track for themes used... "Fog Bound" is the big Klaus Badelt cue from that movie (the real, 5-minute one in the movie is pretty much all Klaus I believe). <br><br>But Hans appears almost everywhere in POTC 1. Sometimes it's arrangements of his themes by the other guys, sometimes it's parts of the tunes that he wrote put directly in like he wrote them... The following scenes are pretty much directly Hans, if I remember right (this is the list I'm referencing — but as you can see, Zimmer's name is almost everywhere hans-zimmer . com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1128): <br><br>3. Captain Jack Sparrow (Hans wrote the big theme here, as well as the Jack Sparrow stuff at the end)<br>8. Breaking the Chains (more Jack Sparrow theme...) <br>17. Boarding the Dauntless (Jack Sparrow theme...)<br>24. Moonlight Serenade (Zimmer said he wrote this scene like Cinderella walking into a Metallica concert)<br> <br>Aaaaand a lot of the final fighting music is lifted directly out of the suite Zimmer wrote, so it's 90% him. But once again, his themes as arranged by other people appear everywhere. Hybrid can answer way more about all this than I can.<br>
Oh wow! That’s all really interesting. So how much of the OST is really HAnS Zimmer then???Hans was composing The Last Samurai while the first POTC was being made. He had promised Tom Cruise and Edward Zwick (might have even signed a contract) that he would only work on The Last Samurai and no other movies at that time. So while Hans agreed to write the POTC themes for Gore Verbinski, he wasn't allowed to be credited due to his obligations to the Last Samurai. So he wrote a few themes and then handed the score off to Klaus Badelt, who got the "name" credit on the score. But the whole score is really Klaus, Geoff Zanelli, Nick Glennie Smith, Ramin Djawadi, and a few others doing arrangements of the theme that Hans wrote (and Hans writing for a couple scenes incognito, like when Elizabeth first sees the skeleton pirates). Then Klaus did do the dark "Fog Bound/Underwater March" tune, as mentioned.Can’t insult me! I am genuinely curious. What’s this about The Last Samurai???I'm not saying this to insult David, but it's funny to me that even now, 16 years later, after so many clarifications from HZ and others, people still get confused because of the way POTC 1 got credited. All because Hans had to work on The Last Samurai (which is one of my favorite scores of his, so I guess it was worth the confusion).Saw the film last sunday and loved it. Also loved what Tom Holkenborg did hear. It did not felt nor 300. RoE nor Mad MAx. It's something else and loved it how it worked in context.
he is working on the new Terminator movie?! :OCredits for Dua Lipa's single "Swan Song" for the movie:<br>Written by Dua Lipa, Justin Tranter, Kennedi Lykken, Mattias Larsson, Robin Fredriksson & Tom Holkenborg<br>Produced by Mattman & RobinMy definition of a Complete score is somewhat different. My goal is to find and mix everything you hear in the movie. Some things you find, others you don't. That's always an adventure in itself.<br><br>The source cues are not hard to find, sometimes it can be tricky to find the right performance/conductor.<br><br>In the case of TTRL, it's mostly the Beam cues that are difficult to find. Francesco Lupica wrote several pieces of Beam cues specifically for the movie, 5 of them which were used. There's also the 'Concerto for Beam' written by Powell, and there's the 'Sit back & Relax' album that was used. So to me, that's a pretty substantial (and important!) amount of music  that made it into the cut, which hardly anyone ever talks about.<br><br>Anyway, maybe a future project will tackle most of these issues.So he's scoring that and the new terminator? Damn dude's getting as busy as Henry JackmanUnless they're composed by Zimmer or someone else from RCP, I wouldn't expect source cues to appear here. And there's like two tracks with Beam in the title listed, so what else would have that name?
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Hans ZimmerBlake NeelyGeoff ZanelliTrevor Morris
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicAdditional Music
The Last Samurai (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 107'43
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  1. Opening Titles (2:03)
  2. The Little Bighorn Tale (1:41)
  3. Algren Travels To Japan (2:06)
  4. Japanese Market Source (Kagura No Netori) (1:12)
  5. Boot Camp (1:45)
  6. Scalping Technique (2:42)
  7. Just Shoot Me! (1:41)
  8. Samurai Will Find Us - Battle In The Fog (7:45)
  9. Captured (1:14)
  10. Sake (2:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Blake Neely
  11. Algren Explores Village (3:12)
  12. Beating In The Rain (2:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  13. Intriguing People (2:49)
  14. Too Many Mind (1:09)
  15. Seasons Pass (4:52)
  16. It's A Draw (1:26)
  17. Nite At The Theater - Ninja Attack (4:49)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Fred Selden
  18. Every Soldier Has Nightmares - Farewell - Safe Passage (7:19)
  19. Haircut (2:53)
  20. I Refuse To Give Up My Sword (1:24)
  21. One Mind (Part 1) (1:45)
  22. One Mind (Part 2) (2:28)
  23. Get Past The Guards (0:25)
  24. President Of The United States (1:23)
  25. The Escape (2:19)
  26. Nobutada's Death (2:36)
  27. Don't Go - Prepare For Battle (3:33)
  28. Wear This Armor (2:58)
  29. To The Battlefield (2:28)
  30. They Won't Surrender (1:37)
  31. Warrior Games (3:44)
  32. Archers - On The Battlefield (4:30)
  33. Death & Carnage (1:50)
  34. The Final Charge (4:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  35. Samurai Die By Gatling Gun - Katsumoto's Death (5:30)
  36. Small Measure Of Peace (8:02)
  37. Journey Theme (1:28)
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Nathan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-06-02 06:07:57
I found this release on the interwebs. Any idea where it came from and if it's a fan release? Thanks.

1 - Opening Titles - 03:08
2 - Travelling To Japan - 03:48
3 - Scalping Technique - 03:39
4 - Battle In The Fog - 07:45
5 - Captured - 01:15
6 - Sake & Exploring The Village - 05:35
7 - A Hard Teacher - 06:09
8 - Season's Pass - 06:04
9 - Ninja Attack - 04:49
10 - Nightmares - 07:19
11 - Ronin - 05:30
12 - Street Encounter - 02:36
13 - Breaking Out Katsumoto - 03:20
14 - Safe Passage - 02:35
15 - Preparing For Battle - 06:14
16 - Red Warriors - 01:53
17 - Way Of The Sword - 09:23
18 - Final Charge - 11:33
19 - A Small Measure Of Peace - 08:03
20 - A Way Of Life (Album Suite) - 08:02
21 - Spectres In The Fog (Album Suite) - 04:05
22 - To Know My Enemy (Album Suite) - 04:44
23 - Safe Passage (Album Suite) - 06:14

George reply Replies: 1 || 2018-04-10 00:17:40
Have any of you seen the "special edition" version of this score? Is it legit or no, theres supposedly a 40 minute suite with it but theres no page for it on this site so I wasn't sure if it was legit. Thanks!


Mr Tweedy2018-04-10 15:56:22
Sounds like a fan made version.

I don't get why people bother adding a lengthy medley that contain the same content as heard in the score, and claim it's a "special edition".

superultramegaa reply Replies: 0 || 2018-04-10 00:57:27
Yay! One real comment and two spam comments obviously coming from the same person!

Paul reply Replies: 14 || 2018-01-04 15:27:58
Hybrid..
I heard that hans stopped an expanded last samurai release from lala-land records...
Is that true??? And if its true.. do you know why???


marcorea12018-01-04 16:00:08
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. When he was about to sign my LLL broken arrow he flipped (not at me) about the release, saying he hates it when labels do that as he prefers his music the way they were released first time. He still signed it thankfully. Where I can agree with him on most of his OST, there are a small handful of albums that are missing so much. However I wouldn’t even buy a last samurai LLL release as the OST is a great listen as it is. Same with angels and demons. But that’s just me, many people prefer expanded albums and The last samurai would have been nice for those people.


Olive2018-01-04 16:33:26
I no agree with him. No is fair for the fan no have the access to this stuff because of the direct action of the composer.


badbu2018-01-04 16:44:13
Hans also don't like this score


Hybrid Soldier2018-01-04 16:44:43
Yes I can confirm a release was cancelled about 4 years ago. I cannot say why exactly though.

I've been discussing it with Hans & persons of interest to see what can be done to get it released, and I can tell you Hans is not blindly against the idea...

We'll see how all this goes...


Edmund Meinerts2018-01-04 16:59:34
The fact that Hans has come to dislike this lovely, emotional score while proudly putting his name to stuff like Dunkirk and Inferno is a pretty clear sign of how far apart our paths have drifted over the past several years. :(


Hybrid Soldier2018-01-04 17:02:12
Wait, in what world Hans doesn't like The Last Samurai ?

That's absolutely not true... Wait for the suite he built himself for the concert "The World of Hans Zimmer" in a few months !


Mephariel2018-01-04 18:21:09
Hybrid, do you know if there are plans for a CD/Digital audio release of "The World of Hans Zimmer?" I am super excited about this concert.


Hybrid Soldier2018-01-04 18:25:10
It's pretty early to ask that !!


Mike (OTM)2018-01-04 20:53:47
This is one of my favorite Hans scores, period, so I'd welcome an expanded release. The OST was solid, though.

As for Hans not liking this score, yeah right. He's talked about it as one of the scores he's actually quite proud of.


Olive2018-01-04 22:49:39
Yes, especially when we read the 2003 interviews in which he says he even traveled to Japan to do research. Only the trip is reason to love this score.


Mephariel2018-01-04 23:59:00
Has Zimmer ever talked about King Arthur or Pearl Harbor? I never even hear him briefly mention of those scores.


Olive2018-01-05 00:13:08
I saw a video of him during the premiere of "Inferno" talking to a reporter about "Pearl Harbor". She said that was her favorite. Hans replied that he and she were the only ones who liked it.

Elsewhere I read that Berstein wrote a letter to him praising "Pearl Harbor."


Anonymous2018-01-05 00:26:13
Olive:

Elmer Bernstein


Norm2018-01-05 14:50:58
@Mephariel Go to youtube and search for "hans zimmer making of king arthur". There's a behind the scenes video for the making of the score with Hans.

bob reply Replies: 24 || 2013-09-01 18:05:22
What is this "Journey Theme" at the end of the track list ?


Evenstar2013-09-01 18:11:34
yeah also curious about this one


greg2013-09-01 18:57:58
The Journey theme is probably another take similar to Taken.


sam2013-09-01 21:07:00
it's a cue that hybrid always posts at an end of a complete score tracklist, just to feel better then others, that he might have something, what others don't have. he's doing that always, so i would even say, that track doesn't exist at all.


Hybrid Soldier2013-09-01 21:08:53
It is available to everyone, most people are just way to dumb to see the obvious.


lv-4262013-09-01 21:30:35
To be fair, people just may not know the score as well as you do. It's from the OST, I assume.


Algren2013-09-02 08:48:28
Wow hybrid, really? Now you also offend people here, chapeau to you!

And calling a track "Journey theme" and putting any track time doesn't make us know which track you mean. And as you're doing this EVERYTIME a complete or a sessions score has been leaked, is just shady from you, just to feel better on your own.

There are always these theme or suite cues from you, which are maybe bad edited and mixed by yourself.

And you should think twice before you're offending here someone!

Instead of being happy that everyone can enjoy this beautiful music by Zimmer, which is our all passion and hobby, you need to act again like a prude chick, which goes totally crazy because someone can enjoy this beautiness too now.


Anonymous2013-09-02 09:23:31
Well said, Algren. Adding a track and a time does not tell anyone anything. Hybrid's attitude leaves a lot to be desired. He will probably delete these comments, again to make himself feel better.


Tits McGee2013-09-02 10:30:17
Hybrid, before you delete these comments, I'm sure Hans wouldn't be very pleased if he knew you were the reason that half his scores get leaked in the first place. Then you insult someone on here just asking an innocent question. Take a good look in the mirror. You run a fan site (big whoop-dee-do). It's not like you're getting these scores because you're in the RCP studio with him actually MAKING THE MUSIC (that would require an ounce of creativity wouldn't it? Something your behavior on here says you lack). You're no better than anyone else. It's appalling to see you act so oblivious to your own behavior. So relax for once. Don't be so damn condescending.


greg2013-09-02 11:43:07
If I were hybrid I would all tell you to f**k off, i'd close the website and would enjoy the music without hearing you all bitching.


jan-lee2013-09-02 13:04:38
why are you bad calling a person that has done so much for this site and us, one of the main reason i come here is to read his comments and the answers he gets from zimmer and others regarding music, news etc.


Jimmy Idol2013-09-02 13:08:58
We´re not talking bad about hybrid. but just read, someone posts a simple question, and hybrid just offending everyone here as dumb. who the fuck should know what cue the ¨journey theme¨ is?


Mike2013-09-02 18:30:35
I think every person here being ridiculous. We don't know what the Journey theme is, Hybrid calls us dumb for not knowing, and we all go crazy. For goodness sakes, do knowing the Journey theme or unnecessary rudeness really matter? Go, find a way to figure out what the Journey theme is, and know that Hybrid will be Hybrid for better or worse. It's not the end of the world.


Mr Tweedy2013-09-02 19:32:45
You're all free to live this website if you're not happy with its content.


MacArthur2013-09-02 19:34:21
Agreed!


al bundy2013-09-02 20:58:35
@Mr Tweedy: I think you mean "leave" not "live".


Jimmer2013-09-03 13:02:25
While I agree Hybrid seems to be doing with every Complete Score that gets released, in this instance, it's not that hard to figure out. Do you guys not remember when this movie was first released? Think about it, "Journey Theme." What's perhaps Zimmer's most famous cue that has the word "journey" in it? Yeah, "Journey to the Line." And when "The Last Samurai" came out in theaters, what was one of the cues used in the theatrical trailers? Yep, "Journey to the Line"-theme, or a variation of it. This is probably nothing more than a trailer cue, so it's not worthy going all crazy on Hybrid. Calm down. Move along. And enjoy this treasure.


Hybrid Soldier2013-09-03 13:39:25
Just take the bootleg, and take the OST, and compare... Simple as that.


Anonymous2013-09-05 00:15:02
What part of Taken is edit to make the Journey Theme? The last part runs around 1m34s, is that it??


bob2013-09-05 11:12:11
Hybrid is absolutely right. "Taken" from the official OST is not the film version. There's small variations...
But ... he forget something : "They Are All Perfect" (called here Farewell To A Friend) as we can hear it in this Complete Score is not the film version too.
Hybrid, may be you should add to your track list "They Are All Perfect" from the OST, because this one is the film version.


Per2013-09-05 11:28:11
Track 2 - Spectres In The Fog (from the start) on the OST have a differently mixed, and a little longer, beginning than the corresponding track, on the 'complete', 2m13 (track 9 - "Taken" on the above tracklist)...

There's also some other differences (well, or at least one I can remember), 7m40B/C (track 35 - "Farewell To A Friend") also have a slightly different mix (at one point at least), compared to the OST.

If there's other differences as well, I don't know.


Per2013-09-05 11:29:25
LOL, bob beat me to it regarding track 35 ! ;)


Hybrid Soldier2013-09-05 12:31:14
Well the "Perfect" thing is really not significant enough... I mean, they just undermixed an instrument on OST. It could have been here but hey, I do what I want ! :P :)


...2016-01-04 00:51:04
Hybrid, after going through the OST I just have to ask... From What OST track is the "Journey Theme" taken?
I know you haven't answered this question before and well the question must be quite annoying, but well I'd really like to know:)


6532016-01-04 11:35:52
It's the last 5 seconds of Track 1 from the ost + the first part of track 2. It's basically an alt version of Captured with a longer opening. The flute part in the beginning is in the very end of the first track so has to be edited together with with track 2.

greg reply Replies: 1 || 2014-11-13 18:20:41
can someone tell me the name of the track from the thin red line that is featured at the end of "they are all perfect".


Anonymous2014-11-14 07:17:16
The later half of the famous "Journey to the Line" cue.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2014-07-29 12:58:38
After some research I got my hand on the cuesheet, now you can have fun renaming the bootleg :

THE LAST SAMURAI - OPENING TITLES
THE LAST SAMURAI - END TITLES
ALGREN EXPLORES VILLAGE
ALGREN TRAVELS TO JAPAN
ARCHERS / ON THE BATTLEFIELD
BATTLE IN THE FOG
BEATING IN THE RAIN
BOOT CAMP
DEATH AND CARNAGE
DON'T GO
EMPEROR'S PALACE
THE ESCAPE
EVERY SOLDIER HAS NIGHTMARES
FAREWELL
GET PAST THE GUARDS
I REFUSE TO GIVE UP MY SWORD
INTRUIGING PEOPLE
IT'S A DRAW
JAPANESE MARKET SOURCE
KATSUMOTO'S DEATH
THE LITTLE BIG HORN TALE
MEETING THE EMPEROR
NINJA ATTACK (HZ / Zanelli)
NITE AT THE THEATRE (HZ / Zanelli / Fred Selden)
NOBUTADA'S DEATH
ONE MIND
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
SAKE (HZ / Neely)
SAMURAI DIE BY GATLING GUN
SAMURAI WILL FIND US
SCALPING TECHNIQUE
SEASONS PASS
SHOOT ME!
TENSION DRUMS
THEY WON'T SURRENDER
TO THE BATTLEFIELD
TOO MANY MIND
WARRIOR GAMES
WEAR THIS ARMOR

:)


badbu2014-07-30 09:11:08
thanks hybrid :)


Edmund Meinerts2014-07-30 18:13:57
Who the heck is Fred Selden?


Hybrid Soldier2014-07-30 18:17:41
Edmund I'm deeply disappointed... :P

Soloists :

Fred Selden - Flute & Ethnic Woodwinds


;)


Frisbee2014-08-06 12:51:25
Here is my suggestion:

Prologue ==> TLS Opening Titles
<Missing> ==> Music For Military Band Source
Presenting Nathan Algren ==> The Little Big Horn Tale
Yokohama Harbor ==> Algren Travels To Japan
Kagura No Netori ==> Japanese Market Source
<Missing> ==> Emperor's Palace/Meeting the Emperor
Training Camp ==> Boot Camp
To Know My Enemy ==> Scalping Technique
A Hard Teacher ==> Shoot Me
Spectres In The Fog ==> Samurai Will Find Us/Battle in the Fog
Taken ==> Captured
Sake ==> <Unchanged>
Exploring The Village ==> Algren Explores Village
The Way Of The Sword ==> Beating in the Rain
A Way Of Life ==> Intriguing People
Too Many Mind ==> <Unchanged>
Seasons Pass ==> <Unchanged>
A Draw ==> It's a Draw
Night At The Theater ==> Night At The Theater/Ninja Attack
Safe Passage ==> Every Soldier Has Nightmares/Farewell/Safe Passage
New Contract ==> Haircut
Ronin ==> I Refuse To Give Up My Sword
A Change Of Heart ==> One Mind
Street Encounter ==> Tension Drums
Arrival Of The Rickshaws ==> President of the United State
Convincing To Escape ==> Get Past the Guards
Breaking Out ==> The Escape
Idyll's End ==> Nobutada's Death
Preparing For Battle ==> Don't Go/Prepare For Battle
Red Armor ==> Wear This Armor
To The Battlefield ==> <Unchanged>
In Positions ==> They Won't Surrender
The Barricades ==> Warrior Games
Red Warrior ==> Archers/On the Battlefield
Casualties ==> Death and Carnage
The Final Charge ==> Samurai Die By Gatling Gun
Farewell To A Friend ==> Farewell To A Friend/Katsumoto's Death
A Small Measure Of Peace ==> <Unchanged>
<Missing> ==> TLS End Titles

Anon reply Replies: 1 || 2013-11-09 04:28:33
Found a download of this and it included a 39 minute suite. Have we confirmed or denied whether this is a fanmade suite or Zimmer's official one?


Algren2013-11-09 10:03:24
Fan.

MacArthur reply Replies: 6 || 2013-09-05 17:28:19
What is the Deal with the complete scores?


al bundy2013-09-05 19:49:43
what is your deal asking stupid questions?


MacArthur2013-09-05 20:49:28
No I'm just saying why is everyone so excited. when they don't get released.nor can you download them at all.


MacArthur2013-09-05 20:50:40
I would love it if they came out on CD. but they don't. so why I mean it's just track listings


Sam2013-09-05 21:05:09
When you see a tracklist here, means that you can get it too by using Google.
It doesn't mean we're all freaked out because of some titles, but more that we too can enjoy and hear more music, alternates and variations of the score.

Do you understand?


MacArthur2013-09-05 21:30:08
Got you.


Anonymous2013-10-21 18:04:59
And even if you don't download them, you get the following:

--the name of each cue that plays in the movie
--possible composer credits for the cues
--you can listen to them on the internet

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-09-04 21:25:50
Credits, even partial, for this one would be much appreciated if you have them, Hybrid. :)

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2013-09-02 13:52:20
Glad this finally leaked cause once agaaaaaaaaaaaain Hans scrapped almost all the good parts of the action material on the official album.


Mike2013-09-02 15:04:13
Can you give examples? I'm just curious, because I thought it was a great album release (for once).

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2013-09-02 01:34:44
Two words-- Virtually flawless!

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-09-01 19:42:07
This is one of the few scores where I feel no need for the complete version to service. To me, the album contains all the music worth hearing, and even "The Final Charge" cue was released. Still nice to see a page for it.

Bryan Fury reply Replies: 0 || 2013-09-01 18:09:20
i got this one..Masterpiece!!!

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