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Its Imagine the Fire insertThe Japanese version can be ordered here: http: //www.cdjapan.co.jp/ product/WPCR-18185<br><br>The "Swan Song" is also included on the CD. So it has 3 additional tracks.Theres quite a bit of good unreleased stuff from this score. Stuff like the cue that plays during Alita's first game of motorball with the other kids, the bar fight music, the unused string rendition of Alita's theme and the end titles arrangement of Motorball/Swan Song.Does anyone have the "Motorball" cue from end credits? It sounds like the beginning of the "Motorball" track but it's different than on the OST. It plays directly after the Swan Song track...<br><br>Why is it left off the CD?Huh... Do people at RCP ask H-Z.com to use the official, less accurate credits in some cases? I seem to recall some credit fiasco on POTC4.
So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.
I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridgeThat's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.
Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.
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Dominic LewisBeth CaucciMatthew MargesonSteven Kofsky
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Free Birds
Label: Relativity Music Group (Digital Download Only)
Length: 64'44 (Score: 58'15)
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  1. Up Around The Bend - Social Distortion (3:22)
  2. Starry Side Up (0:42)
    Dominic Lewis
  3. All The Trimmings (0:44)
    Dominic Lewis
  4. Turkatory (2:50)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  5. Poultry Pardon (2:18)
    Dominic Lewis
  6. El Solo Pavo (1:56)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  7. Turknapped (1:22)
    Dominic Lewis
  8. Shell Shocked (2:30)
    Dominic Lewis
  9. Secret Military Baster (1:56)
    Dominic Lewis
  10. Cranberry Saucer (4:16)
    Dominic Lewis
  11. Eggs-istential Crisis (0:30)
    Dominic Lewis
  12. Killing Two Birds With One Standish (0:52)
    Dominic Lewis
  13. Fly Or Get Stuffed (1:51)
    Dominic Lewis
  14. School Of Flock (2:38)
    Dominic Lewis
  15. Roast This! (1:00)
    Dominic Lewis
  16. Tryptophan Traps (0:31)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  17. Jive Turkey (1:07)
    Dominic Lewis
  18. Lazy Eye View (1:19)
    Dominic Lewis
  19. Birds Of A Feather (1:10)
    Dominic Lewis
  20. Great Egg-scape (2:23)
    Dominic Lewis
  21. Hold On To Your Giblets (4:56)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  22. The Right Stuffing (0:39)
    Dominic Lewis
  23. Fowl Play (5:23)
    Dominic Lewis
  24. Laid To Rest (3:01)
    Dominic Lewis
  25. Cold Turkey (3:54)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  26. The Great Turkey (1:20)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  27. Iratus Aves (3:48)
    Dominic Lewis
  28. Ocellata Turkeys (3:19)
    Dominic Lewis
  29. Back In Time - MattyB Raps (3:07)
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 9 || 2014-10-20 01:45:29
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I just noticed under Dom Lewis' composer page a cue from X-Men: Days of Future Past. That's really interesting, especially considering the ghostwriting rumors that have always surrounded John Ottman. I wonder how that happened?


Adam2014-10-20 04:21:44
You're right, Edmund! It seems to be the first half of "Do What You Were Made For". Thanks for pointing this out.


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 08:56:45
I found this at BMI, surprising indeed... He just helped out for a week on it, working on a couple of cues, which then got rearranged by Ottman...


Adam2014-10-20 16:23:16
Cool, hanks for that info Hybrid! Do you know if there's any other credits?


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 16:34:14
For Days of Future Past ?

From what I saw yeah looks like the additionals are getting royalties lol... But just go to BMI.com, the repertoire search section, search Ottman John V, and have fun...


Adam2014-10-20 18:39:14
Ya I found a bunch! Thanks! :D


polob2014-10-20 22:44:32
and how we can hear the tracks from BMI ?


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 23:43:35
You can't it's just cue sheets... not cues... lol


Adam2014-10-20 23:45:31
polob, you don't need to anyway! Every track on the OST is listed on BMI :)


polob2014-10-22 23:27:19
and how Hybrid can have the cue??

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 6 || 2014-05-15 15:57:24
Has anyone noticed how much the main theme of this sounds like the Jade theme from The Rock? Just listen to "Ocellata Turkeys" - it sounds exactly like "Jade" if orchestrated by John Powell.


Mike2014-05-15 16:18:16
Wow. You're right! That's really funny.


Mike2014-05-15 16:22:28
Things like this make me wonder why Hans Zimmer got accused of plagiarism with the Gladiator Waltz, while stuff like this, much more blatant, are able to slide by undetected. Maybe it's because Zimmer is more popular than Lewis, but it's weird either way (or another example is the Luke and Leia theme from National Treasure 2....lol).


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-15 16:39:09
Maybe it's because the Gladiator Waltz is a lengthy piece that's clearly written in the style of Holst, whereas this cue has a melodic similarity, but a very different "feel" to it.

I think the Gladiator/Holst thing is a little overblown, though. Sure, the similarity is there, but it's not exactly lawsuit-worthy...


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-15 17:11:56
Yeah just like Broken Arrow and that Edelman thing was no lawsuit-worthy either... But it nearly happened...

Anyway the Jade thing is real but you know, it's not like it's intentional, yeah the melody is the same but 2 composers can come up with the suite of notes, can't they ? :P


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-15 17:44:55
Did Edelman have issues when that theme popped up again in Pirates of the Caribbean? :p


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-15 18:57:31
If you ask me Edelman can go f... himself big time ! ;)

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 7 || 2014-01-25 13:54:29
Sorry to be such a nitpicker, but if Beth Caucci is only credited for "additional arrangements," what does that mean for the cues where she's credited? Did she do any actual composing?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-25 16:23:34
The cues are Dom... She just added some things to it (string sections, percs, whatever)...


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-25 20:23:04
Ah, okay. So if I understand it correctly, the "architecture" of the cues is pure Dom, but some of the embellishments/orchestrations/whatever are put in by Beth. All right. I think I'll go with a 75%/25% split then (don't ask...my ratings system is ridiculous and it's the reason why I ask all these questions).

Fun score by the way! Helps make up for Powell's absence. Although the theme makes me think of The Rock ("Jade")...


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-25 21:01:09
Actually such a rating system does exist in cue sheet to determine royalties !

I've seen it very rarely but for instance some Wreck-It Ralph cues, which are Jackman 75% Lewis 25% or whatever...


Mike2014-01-26 16:25:38
Really? What other RCP scores have those? That could be interesting to know for folks like MacArthur... ;) No offense, MacArthur.


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 16:43:02
Iron Man, partly...


POTC 4, but that's of no use...


Mike2014-01-26 16:44:18
I'm sorry, but why's POTC4's of no use?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 17:13:47
Because it's just HZ / Badelt / Neely / RyG ! ;)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-10-16 19:09:06
First Dom Lewis score, can't wait to hear that ! :)


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-16 20:06:08
If this score doesn't sound very, very much like John Powell and Henry Jackman I'll be quite surprised. :p


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-17 23:46:28
Samples at amazon.es :
amazon.es/gp/product/B00FWEV72O/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&qid=13 82045759&sr=8-9


Anonymous2013-10-18 06:26:28
Sounds amazing. Can't wait for this. :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-01 00:13:38
Actually, this score REALLY is love child of Powell & Jackman !

95% Orchestral only.


Very nice effort... :)


Frisbee2013-11-04 08:03:37
I concur Hybrid Soldier's statement. Fans of John Powell's works for Blue Sky Animated Studio's movies will certainly be pleased with this. (Personally, I am digging all the wordplay in track titles too!)


Russel2013-12-27 16:33:08
This got a CD Release, finally. I'm very glad to see that it got a release like that. It needed a proper release.

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