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Several clips of the film are on YT. With some music. Sounds like 90's score from HZ. Too bad the directing seems to come from an age movies didn't exist...No. It’s a boys choir. S&K bros is a girl’s choirSeems like Scala & Kolacny Brothers.In what way is it "obvious", exactly, that Djawadi had more influence on that Training cue than Zimmer? It's basically just a statement of Zimmer's theme, and doesn't really sound notably "Djawadi-esque" to me in any way.Thanks for the credits update
A bit of who did what...Lorne also confirmed that he took charge of Mr.Charles, and without saying that Lorne was on the good side of Score in general, so his influence was substantially high.Hybrid confirmed that training is composed by Ramin and Hans and it is obvious that Ramin's influence is superior to that of Hans.are we expecting the score for dark phoenix to be released in a week or so, if the movie itself drops early june?Not as simply as that.... Training is Ramin's arrangement of a Hans theme, and the core of Mr. Charles when the Fischer theme isn't playing is a Hans idea, too, as far as I know. Take the Zimmer out and those moments wouldn't be the same.
I think Balfe working with Nolan would have done a great jobBob,The Training is basically Ramin Djawadi and Mr.Charles is BalfeI hope these two team up again. Zimmer's score is the main driving force for some memorable scenes. Just a few<br>Batman Begins-The Training<br>TDK- Joker crash the party, Gordon's speech and ending<br>Inception - Time, Mr.Charles, <br>TKDR - the climb, imagine the fire and orphan<br>Interstellar-Stay, Docking, coward, mountain<br>Dunkirk - well the entire movieJustin Hurwitz I can see. I enjoyed La La Land and First Man. But Both Hurwitz and Göransson are several notches above Lorne Balfe. <br><br>I think 80/100 directors would rather work with Göransson than Balfe.I really believe that Nolan has made a mistake as a composer.I think Lorne Balfe, David Julyan or Justin Hurwitz would be much better options than Ludwig Goransson.
Interesting news. <br><br>Geoff Zanelli is one of those composers who I’ve loved his additional music over his solo efforts, Pirates 5 excluded. I hope he gets a chance to write some great fantasy music for this, regardless if he reuses JNH’s themes or not.I think I am the only one, who would be glad about David Julyan return.<br><br>I really like his music for early Nolan's films, especially Insomnia, and it's what i can call an "atmospheric experience".<br><br>Don't know how his music fits for espionage timetraveling movie, but, for me, i'st would be something interesting to hear.@mpolonest123: those Pemberton scores are indeed pure gold, very cool on album but insanely good in the movie. My favorite is still his King Arthur, that was a beast of a score that stuck with the movie like glue and really enhanced Guy Ritchie's dark, twisted, trippy vision.*3 thingsSure, but there's two things to consider. <br>1). Pirates has such an iconic sound that it'd be really stupid for them to suddenly abandon it at #5. Especially when we hired the guy who has worked on the previous 4. 2). Maleficent, as successful as it was to warrant a sequel, isn't quite as well known in the score department, despite being well received by those who have heard it. 3). Because Zanelli worked on all Pirates, he had enough familiarity with the sounds and motifs that he knew where to go once he led the ship. In Maleficent's case, he's taking over from a previous composer, and is working with a director who likely only knows his work on POTC5. As such, there's no knowing yet if he might be compelled to continue on from JNH, or if it's decided he just does his own thing.<br><br>I'm happy that Geoff at the very least has a safe career at Disney, considering two of their recent live action successes has had him involved. However, considering I hear his recently work hasn't been his best, JNH likely would've benefited from returning to a world that had some of his best material after he wasn't given the opportunity to do so with Glass. As such, it really is a severely missed opportunity, even if newer blood is getting more opportunities.
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Dominic LewisBeth CaucciMatthew MargesonSteven Kofsky
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Free Birds
Label: Relativity Music Group (Digital Download Only)
Length: 64'44 (Score: 58'15)
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  1. Up Around The Bend - Social Distortion (3:22)
  2. Starry Side Up (0:42)
    Dominic Lewis
  3. All The Trimmings (0:44)
    Dominic Lewis
  4. Turkatory (2:50)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  5. Poultry Pardon (2:18)
    Dominic Lewis
  6. El Solo Pavo (1:56)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  7. Turknapped (1:22)
    Dominic Lewis
  8. Shell Shocked (2:30)
    Dominic Lewis
  9. Secret Military Baster (1:56)
    Dominic Lewis
  10. Cranberry Saucer (4:16)
    Dominic Lewis
  11. Eggs-istential Crisis (0:30)
    Dominic Lewis
  12. Killing Two Birds With One Standish (0:52)
    Dominic Lewis
  13. Fly Or Get Stuffed (1:51)
    Dominic Lewis
  14. School Of Flock (2:38)
    Dominic Lewis
  15. Roast This! (1:00)
    Dominic Lewis
  16. Tryptophan Traps (0:31)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  17. Jive Turkey (1:07)
    Dominic Lewis
  18. Lazy Eye View (1:19)
    Dominic Lewis
  19. Birds Of A Feather (1:10)
    Dominic Lewis
  20. Great Egg-scape (2:23)
    Dominic Lewis
  21. Hold On To Your Giblets (4:56)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  22. The Right Stuffing (0:39)
    Dominic Lewis
  23. Fowl Play (5:23)
    Dominic Lewis
  24. Laid To Rest (3:01)
    Dominic Lewis
  25. Cold Turkey (3:54)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  26. The Great Turkey (1:20)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  27. Iratus Aves (3:48)
    Dominic Lewis
  28. Ocellata Turkeys (3:19)
    Dominic Lewis
  29. Back In Time - MattyB Raps (3:07)
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 9 || 2014-10-20 01:45:29
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I just noticed under Dom Lewis' composer page a cue from X-Men: Days of Future Past. That's really interesting, especially considering the ghostwriting rumors that have always surrounded John Ottman. I wonder how that happened?


Adam2014-10-20 04:21:44
You're right, Edmund! It seems to be the first half of "Do What You Were Made For". Thanks for pointing this out.


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 08:56:45
I found this at BMI, surprising indeed... He just helped out for a week on it, working on a couple of cues, which then got rearranged by Ottman...


Adam2014-10-20 16:23:16
Cool, hanks for that info Hybrid! Do you know if there's any other credits?


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 16:34:14
For Days of Future Past ?

From what I saw yeah looks like the additionals are getting royalties lol... But just go to BMI.com, the repertoire search section, search Ottman John V, and have fun...


Adam2014-10-20 18:39:14
Ya I found a bunch! Thanks! :D


polob2014-10-20 22:44:32
and how we can hear the tracks from BMI ?


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 23:43:35
You can't it's just cue sheets... not cues... lol


Adam2014-10-20 23:45:31
polob, you don't need to anyway! Every track on the OST is listed on BMI :)


polob2014-10-22 23:27:19
and how Hybrid can have the cue??

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 6 || 2014-05-15 15:57:24
Has anyone noticed how much the main theme of this sounds like the Jade theme from The Rock? Just listen to "Ocellata Turkeys" - it sounds exactly like "Jade" if orchestrated by John Powell.


Mike2014-05-15 16:18:16
Wow. You're right! That's really funny.


Mike2014-05-15 16:22:28
Things like this make me wonder why Hans Zimmer got accused of plagiarism with the Gladiator Waltz, while stuff like this, much more blatant, are able to slide by undetected. Maybe it's because Zimmer is more popular than Lewis, but it's weird either way (or another example is the Luke and Leia theme from National Treasure 2....lol).


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-15 16:39:09
Maybe it's because the Gladiator Waltz is a lengthy piece that's clearly written in the style of Holst, whereas this cue has a melodic similarity, but a very different "feel" to it.

I think the Gladiator/Holst thing is a little overblown, though. Sure, the similarity is there, but it's not exactly lawsuit-worthy...


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-15 17:11:56
Yeah just like Broken Arrow and that Edelman thing was no lawsuit-worthy either... But it nearly happened...

Anyway the Jade thing is real but you know, it's not like it's intentional, yeah the melody is the same but 2 composers can come up with the suite of notes, can't they ? :P


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-15 17:44:55
Did Edelman have issues when that theme popped up again in Pirates of the Caribbean? :p


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-15 18:57:31
If you ask me Edelman can go f... himself big time ! ;)

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 7 || 2014-01-25 13:54:29
Sorry to be such a nitpicker, but if Beth Caucci is only credited for "additional arrangements," what does that mean for the cues where she's credited? Did she do any actual composing?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-25 16:23:34
The cues are Dom... She just added some things to it (string sections, percs, whatever)...


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-25 20:23:04
Ah, okay. So if I understand it correctly, the "architecture" of the cues is pure Dom, but some of the embellishments/orchestrations/whatever are put in by Beth. All right. I think I'll go with a 75%/25% split then (don't ask...my ratings system is ridiculous and it's the reason why I ask all these questions).

Fun score by the way! Helps make up for Powell's absence. Although the theme makes me think of The Rock ("Jade")...


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-25 21:01:09
Actually such a rating system does exist in cue sheet to determine royalties !

I've seen it very rarely but for instance some Wreck-It Ralph cues, which are Jackman 75% Lewis 25% or whatever...


Mike2014-01-26 16:25:38
Really? What other RCP scores have those? That could be interesting to know for folks like MacArthur... ;) No offense, MacArthur.


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 16:43:02
Iron Man, partly...


POTC 4, but that's of no use...


Mike2014-01-26 16:44:18
I'm sorry, but why's POTC4's of no use?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 17:13:47
Because it's just HZ / Badelt / Neely / RyG ! ;)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-10-16 19:09:06
First Dom Lewis score, can't wait to hear that ! :)


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-16 20:06:08
If this score doesn't sound very, very much like John Powell and Henry Jackman I'll be quite surprised. :p


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-17 23:46:28
Samples at amazon.es :
amazon.es/gp/product/B00FWEV72O/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&qid=13 82045759&sr=8-9


Anonymous2013-10-18 06:26:28
Sounds amazing. Can't wait for this. :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-01 00:13:38
Actually, this score REALLY is love child of Powell & Jackman !

95% Orchestral only.


Very nice effort... :)


Frisbee2013-11-04 08:03:37
I concur Hybrid Soldier's statement. Fans of John Powell's works for Blue Sky Animated Studio's movies will certainly be pleased with this. (Personally, I am digging all the wordplay in track titles too!)


Russel2013-12-27 16:33:08
This got a CD Release, finally. I'm very glad to see that it got a release like that. It needed a proper release.

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