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Just realized I’ve been calling the movie “Windows” instead of “Widows”. <br>Ugh it’s been a long day -_-Just took a look at the trailer and am really impressed with how the film looks, not what I was expecting at all. I honestly don’t know what approach Zimmer will take either, although if I had to guess probably more sound design-ish.<br><br>And outside of “Injection” and “Bare Island” I find MI2 to be bland and all over the place stylistically. Just my opinion though, I know a lot of people love that score ;-)mpolonest123, have you seen the trailer for Widows? Zimmer created the music for that trailer and I assume it came from the movie. If that is the case, it will sound nothing like TTRL.M:I2 is a blast to listen to. I just have a hard time imagine it to be a MI score. But it is one of the most fun scores from Zimmer.And as far Zimmer scores that I don’t like for the most part, there is a small handful (Madagascar, MI2, etc.)
That’s completely fair, and I honestly couldn’t defend this score and be genuine about it. I think it does help that I love this movie (despite being hard to watch) and have come to associate the music with it so much. Still, I can’t lie that I find portions of it to be incredibly effective, even when the music does become solely ambient. In terms of listenability/originality the best cue is, ironically, the 24-second “Washington” cue.<br><br>I would kill to know what Zimmer personally thinks of this score. I’m sure he had a great working relationship with Steve, hence him working on “Windows”, but I’m sure the temptrack must have been murder on his creativity...This is my least favorite Zimmer score, actually. Or else the one that I feel has the least going for it; I guess it doesn't make me mad like On Stranger Tides, but at the same time it lacks anything even remotely compelling. "Boat Trip to New Orleans" is the only halfway interesting cue and even then I don't really like to listen to it much. The experimental parts aren't interesting experiments (ooh...clapping...wow), and the Journey to the Line stuff is just tired and bland (on top of being super derivative). I get that it works in the movie or whatever but if I had a gun to my head with orders to delete one Hans score from my library and never listen to it again, I'm pretty sure this would be the one I'd go for.Even 5 years later, I’m still not sure how I feel about this score. <br><br>On one hand, the music complements the film extremely well. “Boat Trip to New Orleans” and “Soap” are both incredible in context, and even some of the more ambient cues are pretty effective. Alongside Interstellar probably Hans’ most minimilastic score, something which actually suits him well.<br><br>On the other hand, the Time/Journey to the Line temp is extremely blatant, and it definitely doesn’t help that 60% of the music used in film is basically a variation on that one idea (and some cues are purely sound effects). I still admire the score though, regardless of the familiarity issues.<br><br>With Windows coming out I’m very curious to see what approach will be. Personally, I like seeing Zimmer tackle a project with minimalism. Hopefully McQueen (who is a very talented director) doesn’t box Hans in with another TTRL temp... or any temp for that matter.Are you going to visit Russia?!) We are waiting for very much!)He posted it before this site added the tracklist.
Did you just copied and paste the tracklist above? lmaoThe reprise of "Batman on Fire" from Begins (1:59-2:30 in the Transfiguration suite) is good stuff! I wonder why Hans decided to reuse that particular idea.When are we going to see you in Chicago?Indeed, this score reminds me — in a good way — of The Rock.Track 11, Onwards, here is my most favorite cue from the CoH franchise. It has that old school "power anthem" thing going on about it with full force. I truly wish this style is brought back to life again soon.
Are there any more tour dates planned?Lord of the Rings - Shore<br>Battlestar Galactica - McCreary<br><br>Both are up there as my two favorite collection of works. GOT doesn't even compare to BSG. <br><br>For solo albums, my candidates are:<br><br>Titanic<br>The Lion King<br>Interstellar<br>Memoirs of a Geisha<br>Jurassic Park<br><br><br> <br><br>@superultramega<br>Honestly I feel like most of the issues with AUJ (and the other two hobbit films) were stemming from Peter Jackson editing the hell out of the music after the fact. It could be why they ended up dumping some themes in the following films.<br><br>Still, I don’t understand some of the criticism that the Hobbit trilogy scores received. DoS has some of the best action material imo, and the interpolations of Smaug’s theme(s) throughout the films are personally some of my favorite music from any LoTR project.<br><br>And this might be controversial, but I would put PoTC (the first three at least) on the level of Lord of the Rings in terms of the sheer amount of themes and development they receive. Maybe not quite as complex but they shouldn’t be overlooked.The Lion King and The Last Samurai are good choices, but I'm not as much of a fan as Zimmer's aesthetic or thematic work nearly as much as Howard Shore, or even Jablonskly at times. Game of Thrones I still can't comment on as I've never watched the show, or payed attention to Djawadi in general.<br><br>I would say Shore's heart wasn't in Desolation and Five Armies, but to say that about Unexpected Journey doesn't really feel right to me. Even themes like Gondor Restored and Nazgul's uses have some logic to them. <br><br>Gondor Restored was also used when the Ring is destroyed, meaning it also has a secondary meaning of victory against evil, (yes I know it affected Gondor too, but Gondor it isn't as direct). Which also applies in The Hobbit, as Bilbo saving Thorin was not only important for their relationship but also the future of Middle Earth as Thorin is vital to the battle against the orcs in Five Armies. <br><br>The Nazgul theme also makes sense as its first appearance is in Fellowship's opening, playing over Sauron's army of orcs, then Sauron himself. So it's linked both to Sauron himself and his servants, which includes Azog. Plus the version that plays in the film is the exact same variant (and lyrics) that plays in the Fellowship prologue. It serves almost as a precursor to the Nazgul. Plus I don't see why themes can't have several meanings anyway.  <br><br>Plus I love most of the new themes of AUJ (before they were abandoned in later films).Not really a fair comparison, Hybrid, since videogames as a medium are much younger than films, and their scores weren't using real orchestras right until... mid 90's, would be my guess (feel free to correct me, guys).<br><br>The all time best film score for me would be a battle between The Last Samurai and Lion King. If "movie" includes TV shows, then it's Game of Thrones without a doubt, but I'm not gonna have this argument again ;)<br><br>Btw. I wouldn't mention Hobbit in the same sentence with LotR, even music-wise. A couple of great cues cannot hide the fact that Shore's heart wasn't in it.
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Dominic LewisBeth CaucciMatthew MargesonSteven Kofsky
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Free Birds
Label: Relativity Music Group (Digital Download Only)
Length: 64'44 (Score: 58'15)
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  1. Up Around The Bend - Social Distortion (3:22)
  2. Starry Side Up (0:42)
    Dominic Lewis
  3. All The Trimmings (0:44)
    Dominic Lewis
  4. Turkatory (2:50)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  5. Poultry Pardon (2:18)
    Dominic Lewis
  6. El Solo Pavo (1:56)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  7. Turknapped (1:22)
    Dominic Lewis
  8. Shell Shocked (2:30)
    Dominic Lewis
  9. Secret Military Baster (1:56)
    Dominic Lewis
  10. Cranberry Saucer (4:16)
    Dominic Lewis
  11. Eggs-istential Crisis (0:30)
    Dominic Lewis
  12. Killing Two Birds With One Standish (0:52)
    Dominic Lewis
  13. Fly Or Get Stuffed (1:51)
    Dominic Lewis
  14. School Of Flock (2:38)
    Dominic Lewis
  15. Roast This! (1:00)
    Dominic Lewis
  16. Tryptophan Traps (0:31)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  17. Jive Turkey (1:07)
    Dominic Lewis
  18. Lazy Eye View (1:19)
    Dominic Lewis
  19. Birds Of A Feather (1:10)
    Dominic Lewis
  20. Great Egg-scape (2:23)
    Dominic Lewis
  21. Hold On To Your Giblets (4:56)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  22. The Right Stuffing (0:39)
    Dominic Lewis
  23. Fowl Play (5:23)
    Dominic Lewis
  24. Laid To Rest (3:01)
    Dominic Lewis
  25. Cold Turkey (3:54)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  26. The Great Turkey (1:20)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  27. Iratus Aves (3:48)
    Dominic Lewis
  28. Ocellata Turkeys (3:19)
    Dominic Lewis
  29. Back In Time - MattyB Raps (3:07)
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 9 || 2014-10-20 01:45:29
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I just noticed under Dom Lewis' composer page a cue from X-Men: Days of Future Past. That's really interesting, especially considering the ghostwriting rumors that have always surrounded John Ottman. I wonder how that happened?


Adam2014-10-20 04:21:44
You're right, Edmund! It seems to be the first half of "Do What You Were Made For". Thanks for pointing this out.


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 08:56:45
I found this at BMI, surprising indeed... He just helped out for a week on it, working on a couple of cues, which then got rearranged by Ottman...


Adam2014-10-20 16:23:16
Cool, hanks for that info Hybrid! Do you know if there's any other credits?


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 16:34:14
For Days of Future Past ?

From what I saw yeah looks like the additionals are getting royalties lol... But just go to BMI.com, the repertoire search section, search Ottman John V, and have fun...


Adam2014-10-20 18:39:14
Ya I found a bunch! Thanks! :D


polob2014-10-20 22:44:32
and how we can hear the tracks from BMI ?


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 23:43:35
You can't it's just cue sheets... not cues... lol


Adam2014-10-20 23:45:31
polob, you don't need to anyway! Every track on the OST is listed on BMI :)


polob2014-10-22 23:27:19
and how Hybrid can have the cue??

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 6 || 2014-05-15 15:57:24
Has anyone noticed how much the main theme of this sounds like the Jade theme from The Rock? Just listen to "Ocellata Turkeys" - it sounds exactly like "Jade" if orchestrated by John Powell.


Mike2014-05-15 16:18:16
Wow. You're right! That's really funny.


Mike2014-05-15 16:22:28
Things like this make me wonder why Hans Zimmer got accused of plagiarism with the Gladiator Waltz, while stuff like this, much more blatant, are able to slide by undetected. Maybe it's because Zimmer is more popular than Lewis, but it's weird either way (or another example is the Luke and Leia theme from National Treasure 2....lol).


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-15 16:39:09
Maybe it's because the Gladiator Waltz is a lengthy piece that's clearly written in the style of Holst, whereas this cue has a melodic similarity, but a very different "feel" to it.

I think the Gladiator/Holst thing is a little overblown, though. Sure, the similarity is there, but it's not exactly lawsuit-worthy...


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-15 17:11:56
Yeah just like Broken Arrow and that Edelman thing was no lawsuit-worthy either... But it nearly happened...

Anyway the Jade thing is real but you know, it's not like it's intentional, yeah the melody is the same but 2 composers can come up with the suite of notes, can't they ? :P


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-15 17:44:55
Did Edelman have issues when that theme popped up again in Pirates of the Caribbean? :p


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-15 18:57:31
If you ask me Edelman can go f... himself big time ! ;)

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 7 || 2014-01-25 13:54:29
Sorry to be such a nitpicker, but if Beth Caucci is only credited for "additional arrangements," what does that mean for the cues where she's credited? Did she do any actual composing?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-25 16:23:34
The cues are Dom... She just added some things to it (string sections, percs, whatever)...


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-25 20:23:04
Ah, okay. So if I understand it correctly, the "architecture" of the cues is pure Dom, but some of the embellishments/orchestrations/whatever are put in by Beth. All right. I think I'll go with a 75%/25% split then (don't ask...my ratings system is ridiculous and it's the reason why I ask all these questions).

Fun score by the way! Helps make up for Powell's absence. Although the theme makes me think of The Rock ("Jade")...


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-25 21:01:09
Actually such a rating system does exist in cue sheet to determine royalties !

I've seen it very rarely but for instance some Wreck-It Ralph cues, which are Jackman 75% Lewis 25% or whatever...


Mike2014-01-26 16:25:38
Really? What other RCP scores have those? That could be interesting to know for folks like MacArthur... ;) No offense, MacArthur.


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 16:43:02
Iron Man, partly...


POTC 4, but that's of no use...


Mike2014-01-26 16:44:18
I'm sorry, but why's POTC4's of no use?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 17:13:47
Because it's just HZ / Badelt / Neely / RyG ! ;)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-10-16 19:09:06
First Dom Lewis score, can't wait to hear that ! :)


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-16 20:06:08
If this score doesn't sound very, very much like John Powell and Henry Jackman I'll be quite surprised. :p


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-17 23:46:28
Samples at amazon.es :
amazon.es/gp/product/B00FWEV72O/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&qid=13 82045759&sr=8-9


Anonymous2013-10-18 06:26:28
Sounds amazing. Can't wait for this. :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-01 00:13:38
Actually, this score REALLY is love child of Powell & Jackman !

95% Orchestral only.


Very nice effort... :)


Frisbee2013-11-04 08:03:37
I concur Hybrid Soldier's statement. Fans of John Powell's works for Blue Sky Animated Studio's movies will certainly be pleased with this. (Personally, I am digging all the wordplay in track titles too!)


Russel2013-12-27 16:33:08
This got a CD Release, finally. I'm very glad to see that it got a release like that. It needed a proper release.

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