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That makes perfect sense and I fully agree with you :pScience & Religion on the OST is comprised of 4m25a Black Tongue part A and 6m38 God Save Us. Hope this helps!I was never extremely gung ho about any of the films, but I do agree that there feels like a bit of charm was missing from this one. Especially in the tidy way everything wrapped up. I also found the villain to be extremely forgettable, basically a lesser version of Drago. But hey, at least the visuals were great.<br><br>And I do partially agree on the score, although I think it is hard to give a fair opinion until the music has actually been released. But while HTTYD1 has all of the best highlights and HTTYD2 (my personal favorite) has the best narrative development, I feel like this one works as a solid score on it’s own. The weakest of the three but still a pretty good score, if that makes sense.Can someone please tell me which parts make Science & Religion and the rest of the Original Soundtrack release?I have to say I'm a little bit disappointed, movie wise and score wise. Although it's a very good score, it seems like all the highlights are when old themes come back. I'll definitely have to check it on album to see if this impression holds up, maybe it's only because I'm overly familiar with those themes, and new ones still have to grow on me (like with litterally every Powell release).<br><br>As for the movie, it felt like the charm and beautiful story of #1 have partly been replaced by poor jokes and loads of explosive action. There are moving moments here and there, but overall it left me quite cold.
Assuming McQ changing up the crew for newer installments applies to the composers too, I'd certainly like to see someone else take the mantle. Would be interesting to see David Arnold tackle a different sort of spy film, or John Ottman taking a stab at it.<br><br>Though if anyone were to return, it'll likely be Balfe, just from all the buzz Fallout got. Would love to see Kraemer again, but the supposed BTS issues make that unlikely.You seriously mean to tell me "Light The Fuse" isn't fun or creative in the slightest? Probably is my favorite rendition of theme regarding just the films. III was certainly dull, but GP proved Gia had a voice for the series.<br><br>Balfe does do some cool things with The Plot, but I fail to see how his renditions of the main theme add anything new. Even the epic choir gets mostly dialed out in the final film. They're perfectly solid, but nothing that I'd say is great.I don't know if it's just me but the music doesn't sound as amazing to me like it did for HTTYD 1 & 2, granted i've only listened to the previews but i did the same for 1 & 2 and it got me hyped. I hope I'm wrongSo having seen the film I can say that this is tonally the most mature score of the series. The old themes all get their moment to shine, but surprisingly are used far less than the previous 2. There also seem to be some temped moments, with one scene using portions of “Battle of the Bewilderbeast” and so on. It will be interesting to see what is missing from the album.<br><br>In terms of new stuff, both “The Hidden World” cue and the “Fury Love Theme” are obviously the standouts. Especially in the way they develop throughout. And without spoiling anything, there are some beautiful choral moments in the last 15 minutes. As for the villain material, there wasn’t really anything distinctive that I picked up, which might change with a few listens.As everyone has said for the billionth time, NO. These are all unofficial fan-made edits or rips.
Is this cd of the complete score available for purchase somewhere?I loved it a lot like you and was searching and searching with no result for a long time.... and know what? Did not forget about it UNTIL NOW!!! It was in a change room at my fitness studio when I heard a very faint sound and was tunderstruck!!! The melody I was looking for for so long!!! And Shazam helped me out: it is a song from the christians from 1995 or so, called: Words! You‘re welcome :-)))and tracklist<br><br>Pictures. Visit the official movie website for more information.<br><br>Here’s the album track list:<br><br><br> <br>1. Serenity<br>2. The Beast<br>3. Suit<br>4. Karen<br>5. Baker Dill<br>6. Patrick<br>7. Memory<br>8. Deliver Me From Temptation<br>9. He Wants Justice<br>10. Girl at the Bridge<br>11. I Am the Rules<br>12. Plymouth Island<br>13. I Remember You<br>14. Catch That Fish<br>15. How We See It<br>16. Creator<br>17. Justice<br>18. Alternate Reality<br>19. It’s Dad<br><br>Saying Balfe has no imagination is beyond stupid. Take a listen at some of his work on animated movies (Home, or his work on KFP2-3), it's definitely not to work of someone without imagination.<br><br>On Fallout in particular, I honestly think he makes the best use of the classic themes in the series. That's maybe not "imaginative", as these themes aren't his, but it's definitely clever and not something every composer can do. Even an experienced guy like Michael Giacchino had 2 stabs at this franchise, and yet failed not only to give a memorable score, but also failed in using these classic themes in such a fun way.JohnWilliams Started out or rather got more into the realm of composing being doing Tv SHows
Meistermind - what’s wrong with being a TV composer ?<br><br>You sound like those idiots on Film music forum that think they know so much .The keyboard comment is exactly the nonsense said.<br><br>Fallout is one of the best action films ever in my opinion with a brilliant soundtrack.<br><br>Balfe is what in the 80s you might have called a TV composer. He has skills to get the job done but no imagination on anything. There'll be a few live bongos in the next film, a lot of supposedly live brass that sounds exactly like my keyboard, and no imagination. <br><br>That's the seemingly Chris Nolan way they want to go here. But if McQuarrie and Cruise are sticking to their mandate on making every film different, well how about (they are not going to go full Lathimos whatever), trying the Jeremy Dyson way, and go for Frank Ilfman. How about being more creative, Mansell has burned his bridges but still does excellent music but how about Richter, he can do anything, or even a Murray Gold. If you hire a pointless HZ flunkie, we'll get someone good, This used to be fine, but now with these dingdongs it is increasingly difficult<br>Balfe did produce both !!!!!!!!!!so ofcause they would sound related <br>Fallout was an excellent film and great soundtrackIn my opinion this soundtrack is very different than the others.<br>Six films and five composers, with a different styles and this soundtrack is very different.<br>For me it's a great soundtrack but the sound is too similar at the dark Knight and Dunkirk.Have to agree about Balfe and Fallout being the best mission score.would be interesting to see what he would do with bond or even Star Wars.<br>There seems to be comments on twitter that Balfe will be doing the score live at the The Royal Albert Hall.anyone know ?
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Dominic LewisBeth CaucciMatthew MargesonSteven Kofsky
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Free Birds
Label: Relativity Music Group (Digital Download Only)
Length: 64'44 (Score: 58'15)
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  1. Up Around The Bend - Social Distortion (3:22)
  2. Starry Side Up (0:42)
    Dominic Lewis
  3. All The Trimmings (0:44)
    Dominic Lewis
  4. Turkatory (2:50)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  5. Poultry Pardon (2:18)
    Dominic Lewis
  6. El Solo Pavo (1:56)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  7. Turknapped (1:22)
    Dominic Lewis
  8. Shell Shocked (2:30)
    Dominic Lewis
  9. Secret Military Baster (1:56)
    Dominic Lewis
  10. Cranberry Saucer (4:16)
    Dominic Lewis
  11. Eggs-istential Crisis (0:30)
    Dominic Lewis
  12. Killing Two Birds With One Standish (0:52)
    Dominic Lewis
  13. Fly Or Get Stuffed (1:51)
    Dominic Lewis
  14. School Of Flock (2:38)
    Dominic Lewis
  15. Roast This! (1:00)
    Dominic Lewis
  16. Tryptophan Traps (0:31)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  17. Jive Turkey (1:07)
    Dominic Lewis
  18. Lazy Eye View (1:19)
    Dominic Lewis
  19. Birds Of A Feather (1:10)
    Dominic Lewis
  20. Great Egg-scape (2:23)
    Dominic Lewis
  21. Hold On To Your Giblets (4:56)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  22. The Right Stuffing (0:39)
    Dominic Lewis
  23. Fowl Play (5:23)
    Dominic Lewis
  24. Laid To Rest (3:01)
    Dominic Lewis
  25. Cold Turkey (3:54)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  26. The Great Turkey (1:20)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  27. Iratus Aves (3:48)
    Dominic Lewis
  28. Ocellata Turkeys (3:19)
    Dominic Lewis
  29. Back In Time - MattyB Raps (3:07)
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 9 || 2014-10-20 01:45:29
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I just noticed under Dom Lewis' composer page a cue from X-Men: Days of Future Past. That's really interesting, especially considering the ghostwriting rumors that have always surrounded John Ottman. I wonder how that happened?


Adam2014-10-20 04:21:44
You're right, Edmund! It seems to be the first half of "Do What You Were Made For". Thanks for pointing this out.


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 08:56:45
I found this at BMI, surprising indeed... He just helped out for a week on it, working on a couple of cues, which then got rearranged by Ottman...


Adam2014-10-20 16:23:16
Cool, hanks for that info Hybrid! Do you know if there's any other credits?


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 16:34:14
For Days of Future Past ?

From what I saw yeah looks like the additionals are getting royalties lol... But just go to BMI.com, the repertoire search section, search Ottman John V, and have fun...


Adam2014-10-20 18:39:14
Ya I found a bunch! Thanks! :D


polob2014-10-20 22:44:32
and how we can hear the tracks from BMI ?


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 23:43:35
You can't it's just cue sheets... not cues... lol


Adam2014-10-20 23:45:31
polob, you don't need to anyway! Every track on the OST is listed on BMI :)


polob2014-10-22 23:27:19
and how Hybrid can have the cue??

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 6 || 2014-05-15 15:57:24
Has anyone noticed how much the main theme of this sounds like the Jade theme from The Rock? Just listen to "Ocellata Turkeys" - it sounds exactly like "Jade" if orchestrated by John Powell.

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Mike2014-05-15 16:18:16
Wow. You're right! That's really funny.


Mike2014-05-15 16:22:28
Things like this make me wonder why Hans Zimmer got accused of plagiarism with the Gladiator Waltz, while stuff like this, much more blatant, are able to slide by undetected. Maybe it's because Zimmer is more popular than Lewis, but it's weird either way (or another example is the Luke and Leia theme from National Treasure 2....lol).


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-15 16:39:09
Maybe it's because the Gladiator Waltz is a lengthy piece that's clearly written in the style of Holst, whereas this cue has a melodic similarity, but a very different "feel" to it.

I think the Gladiator/Holst thing is a little overblown, though. Sure, the similarity is there, but it's not exactly lawsuit-worthy...


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-15 17:11:56
Yeah just like Broken Arrow and that Edelman thing was no lawsuit-worthy either... But it nearly happened...

Anyway the Jade thing is real but you know, it's not like it's intentional, yeah the melody is the same but 2 composers can come up with the suite of notes, can't they ? :P


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-15 17:44:55
Did Edelman have issues when that theme popped up again in Pirates of the Caribbean? :p


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-15 18:57:31
If you ask me Edelman can go f... himself big time ! ;)

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 7 || 2014-01-25 13:54:29
Sorry to be such a nitpicker, but if Beth Caucci is only credited for "additional arrangements," what does that mean for the cues where she's credited? Did she do any actual composing?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-25 16:23:34
The cues are Dom... She just added some things to it (string sections, percs, whatever)...


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-25 20:23:04
Ah, okay. So if I understand it correctly, the "architecture" of the cues is pure Dom, but some of the embellishments/orchestrations/whatever are put in by Beth. All right. I think I'll go with a 75%/25% split then (don't ask...my ratings system is ridiculous and it's the reason why I ask all these questions).

Fun score by the way! Helps make up for Powell's absence. Although the theme makes me think of The Rock ("Jade")...


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-25 21:01:09
Actually such a rating system does exist in cue sheet to determine royalties !

I've seen it very rarely but for instance some Wreck-It Ralph cues, which are Jackman 75% Lewis 25% or whatever...


Mike2014-01-26 16:25:38
Really? What other RCP scores have those? That could be interesting to know for folks like MacArthur... ;) No offense, MacArthur.


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 16:43:02
Iron Man, partly...


POTC 4, but that's of no use...


Mike2014-01-26 16:44:18
I'm sorry, but why's POTC4's of no use?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 17:13:47
Because it's just HZ / Badelt / Neely / RyG ! ;)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-10-16 19:09:06
First Dom Lewis score, can't wait to hear that ! :)


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-16 20:06:08
If this score doesn't sound very, very much like John Powell and Henry Jackman I'll be quite surprised. :p


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-17 23:46:28
Samples at amazon.es :
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Anonymous2013-10-18 06:26:28
Sounds amazing. Can't wait for this. :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-01 00:13:38
Actually, this score REALLY is love child of Powell & Jackman !

95% Orchestral only.


Very nice effort... :)


Frisbee2013-11-04 08:03:37
I concur Hybrid Soldier's statement. Fans of John Powell's works for Blue Sky Animated Studio's movies will certainly be pleased with this. (Personally, I am digging all the wordplay in track titles too!)


Russel2013-12-27 16:33:08
This got a CD Release, finally. I'm very glad to see that it got a release like that. It needed a proper release.

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