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Yeah, 30-ish seconds into Do You Bleed?"Reminiscent Therapy" is amazing in the way it incorporates a lot of Williams' classic stuff making it feel very natural and organic, like it's part Powell's themes, like he does with "The Adentures of Han".<br><br>This is a really great scoreHe is the chosen one, the one who will bring balance to the film music world...Thats just 'do you bleed?' with a small insert?Haha, It's as the prophecy foretold.
John Powell, the great uniter of film music fans@MrZimmerFan<br><br>I actually like Rogue One, and I do understand why it leans so heavily on the original themes. Here the themes are incorporated more as fan service, but Powell is able to do wonders with interpolating them with his material. <br><br>And something I forgot to mention, this score reminds me so much of Pan in the action sequences. The percussion and brass writing is great lolim surprised how Powell uses his ANTZ percussion in this!<br><br>The track Train Heist, Into The Maw is good example of it.<br><br>This is the only score that will please the gang at JW and HZ alike.When JWFan and HZ.com are discussing the same score....'but not as heavily as Rogue One'<br><br>Because Rogue One have conections with certain aspects or characters from the OT?<br><br>An here you have a track with three themes (or cues) with no conections with the OT, Rogue One have more sense... but the score is fricking awesome :)
So first impressions:<br><br>JP knocked this one out of the park! The whole score has this excellent swashbuckling vibe, which is surprisingly aggressive during the action sequences (entirely due to his trademark percussion).<br><br>The writing style is really interesting, it’s basically John Powell doing his usual style but with some Williams flourishes, especially during the softer cues. The Star Wars themes do return, but not as heavily as Rogue One. And of course the JW cue is great, although surprisingly structured more as an action cue as opposed to a concert suite.<br><br>And for some reason the Han theme sounds vaguely similar to Poe’s theme from Force Awakens.Let’s just say “Reminiscience Therapy”.... hold onto your seats! ;-)This score is awesome!! Powell did a great job at making a score that's differet than all the other SW scores, but still you know it's a SW score. He reprised Williams' theme brilliantly and I can't stop to listen to it!!!what about the music when batman makes it back to the cave and lex opens the case of kryptonite. cant find it in theseYeah I can't agree that Inception or Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring. Certainly not in structure, thematic development, etc. <br><br>What defined those scores is the vision behind them more so than the execution. In so many ways, that is opposite of The World's End. Interstellar is a brilliant score that managed to provide each scene with a simplistic tone, but one that captured the atmosphere behind the scenes perfectly, such as the unique use of the organ. Same with Inception with the guitars. <br><br>With a World's End, the vision is nothing special. It is a rock and roll twist to classic music. But the execution brings enormous power and gravitas to the movie.<br><br>I would sum it up by saying that in Interstellar and Inception, the creation of the music drives the movie's ideas while in At World's End, the movie drives the creation of the music.
Nazg&#251;l for Azog I will never forgive. It's not a Servant of Sauron theme, it's a Ringwraith theme, and Azog's not a Ringwraith, he's a goddam Orc, and that theme doesn't belong there, full stop. It was just put there because it sounds "epic" and would "pump up the action scene". Gondor Restored at the end is just as stupid. And the Dreaming of Bag End theme for Bilbo is indeed lovely, and would have been lovelier still if it actually appeared in the movie. Instead it just gets replaced by copy/pasted Hobbit music from LOTR instead because Peter Jackson desperately wants his audience to remember how good those movies were in lieu of the Hobbit ones being any good on their own. Needless to say it goes missing entirely from the second and third score...along with the Misty Mountains melody (the strongest theme of the first one). I still really like those scores overall but they got absolutely butchered in terms of their thematic usage in the films. Then again those movies were an absolute clusterfuck so I shouldn't be surprised.<br><br>WRT Harry Potter, the 3 note theme does work okay for Voldemort, except that there's already a longer, separate Voldemort theme in Philosopher's, one that I like even more, and which only gets used once in Chamber (when Riddle rearranges the letters). I can understand liking Chamber better than Philosopher when you compare the albums, but in terms of the complete scores there's no contest at all, Philosopher wins by a country mile because of Chamber's rehash issues (and there are some good cues missing from the album, such as the Troll and Forbidden Forest scenes).@Edmund<br>The thing with the Nolan scores (at least Interstellar/Inception) is that they are repetitive, in as much as being built heavily around the suites that I’m guessing they use to edit and temp the film. <br>And while the themes are simple I do think they are structured in a unique enough way which builds emotional resonance through the gradual increase in chords/volume/speed/etc. Even Dunkirk is a relatively simple score theme wise, but is so technically complex.<br><br>And personally I’ve never been in love with Inception. I admire it on a technical level, but outside of “Time” I find it to be a fairly cold score. Obviously what it was meant to do so not a complaint, more of a personal preference thing.You know, I actually like Chamber of Secrets much more than Philosopher's Stone. It has the best moments from that score with improved themes. (I actually like the 3 note motif for Voldemort better than it being used for the stone, it already sounded like the Sith theme from Star Wars so might as well go all the way with it.) It felt more tight, better paced, and had an overall more energetic feel to it.<br><br>The Hobbit, I'm not entirely sure where you're getting heartbreaking from. If you mean the state of its release I absolutely agree, if you're talking about its reprisals the only one I had any issue with was the Return of the King/Gondor Restored theme which had nothing to do with Thorin and Bilbo's relationship. <br><br>The Nazghul theme being used for Azog I thought was fine as he was a servant of Sauron in the movies, History of the Ring and Gollum's themes were used effectively, and the new thematic material for the first film, I thought was wonderful. The themes A Baggins of Bag-End and The Lonely Mountain song being used as a Fellowship type of theme are the greatest highlights for me.See, I don't find Inception or Interstellar (or Thin Red Line) all that "complex". Especially not compared to At World's End (how many themes are in that score, like 15? 20? Pretty much all of which show up in rapid succession during the Maelstrom battle?). The Nolan scores are more about building up around very simple conceptual ideas.<br><br>Unless you're talking about emotional complexity, which is a very different thing and not really possible to objectively judge...You know, I don't think I've ever really gotten the full story surrounding that score. I've heard conflicting reports. My personal belief is that Ross did little to no substantial composition and that all the new stuff (themes, suites, new cues and also significantly fresh arrangements of old material) is pure Williams, but that film is full of reused music from the first film (it's actually quite frustrating, not as bad as On Stranger Tides or as heartbreaking as The Hobbit, but a bit of a rehashy mess and it makes the key error of using the Philosopher's Stone motif as a Voldemort theme). That's where I think Ross comes in and was responsible for taking those cues verbatim from the first film and tweaking/rearranging them just enough to match the timings of the scenes without actually adding any of his "own" notes. His role is likely somewhere between additional music, arrangement and music editing (but as Hybrid likes to point out, oftentimes those sorts of roles are really blurred and overlapping anyways).<br><br>A guy at jwfan did an analysis that helps understand the nature of that score, but be warned, it goes *really* deep:<br><br>www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27619-finished-chamber -of-secrets-thematic-and-originality-analysis/
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Days Of Thunder
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 71'14
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  1. Days Of Thunder (Main Title) (3:08)
  2. Rowdy Drives - Who Is This Driver? (2:06)
  3. Let Me Drive - Cole Drives Rowdy's Car (2:26)
  4. Car Building (2:05)
  5. Darlington - Cole Wins (4:47)
  6. You're Home - Daytona Race - The Crash (3:29)
  7. The Hospital (2:20)
  8. Wheelchair Race (0:37)
  9. Rental Car Race (3:50)
  10. Claire Arrives At Her Apartment (1:55)
  11. Physical Kiss (1:05)
  12. Cole Blows His Engine (1:10)
  13. Wheeler - Cole Smashes (2:25)
  14. Cole At The Laundry - Cole Agrees To Drive Rowdy's Car (2:11)
  15. Cole And Harry Fight - Harry Talks To Car (2:52)
  16. Cole In Truck - Pre-Race (3:52)
  17. The Last Race (10:20)
  18. The Last Note Of Freedom - David Coverdale (4:57)

    BONUS TRACKS
  19. The Hospital (Alternate) (2:21)
  20. Wheelchair Race (Alternate) (0:38)
  21. Claire Arrives At Her Apartment (Alternate Ending) (1:53)
  22. Cole Blows His Engine (Alternate) (1:12)
  23. Pre-Race (Alternate Mix) (2:25)
  24. Days Of Thunder (Main Title) (Rock Arrangement) (4:59)
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Scorefan reply Replies: 4 || 2016-01-20 20:33:31
@Hybrid One question: the cue "End titles" is included is this reléase?


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-20 21:53:55
Nope...


Scorefan2016-09-03 17:13:35
@Hybrid, do you know why decided not include the cue in the official release?


Hybrid Soldier2016-09-03 18:04:20
I didn't produce this OST lol...

Ask LLL !


Scorefan2018-01-07 01:41:27
I asked them and they say the last cue in the cusheets is the final race.
So the cue End Titles belongs to Days Of Thunder or Music Library?
Thanks

Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-16 15:46:09
Interesting, there was Jeff Beck's usual line-up on bass guitar and drums or not? And how did Jeff Beck involved in this movie?

Sam Young reply Replies: 0 || 2016-03-28 14:30:05
What type of main keyboard did Hans play in this soundtrack?, I just heard the Yamaha DX7 (the marimba pitch) and Fairlight (the "aah" pitch) sounds, only don't know the main key he played.

Mr Jesstiece reply Replies: 2 || 2015-10-02 18:20:22
has any one heard a version similar to the last note of freedom but not by coverdale but sounding similar called The Driver.


Hybrid Soldier2015-10-02 19:14:07
Yep it's actually the first song Hans wrote with Terry Reid... It was then rearranged & rewritten with Billy Idol for "The Last Note Of Freedom"...

The Driver was much better... lol


rockhound2016-01-14 11:51:38
david coverdale confirmed on twitter, that trevor rabin played the lead guitar on The Last Note Of Freedom. i really love this song and the guitar work is amazing.

MacArthur reply Replies: 6 || 2013-11-18 16:41:10
Really Good!


Tommy2013-11-20 00:36:53
... not really good sound, the sound is very bad, previous version from First Born Records is much better !!


Cloud2013-11-20 01:55:05
Tommy: Are you crazy? The LLL release is light years ahead of the bootleg.


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-20 10:54:18
Yes for the most part, but LLL fucked up 2 cues, The Hospital & Cole Blows His Engine ! Well done... -_-


Mr Tweedy2013-11-20 11:05:33
The most part is really good yes ! Very good re-mastering job here.
But as mentioned Hybrid, those 2 cues sound like they have a sampling rate conversion problem !
That's crazy they didn't notice such a thing during mastering...

The Last Race doesn't have any mastering problem, but probably comes from another source. The track is not as clear and smooth as the other ones. And the original drum mix is pretty bad. Anyway, good cue !


Octane 932015-04-22 14:37:39
Finally we have the elusive 'Last Race' cue!

One of my favorite scores along with 'Rush.'


Max23042015-07-25 10:37:40
The bootleg is much better

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 25 || 2013-11-08 18:46:19
I got the confirmation I wanted, Mancina did work on The Last Race (and a few other cues).

End of story.


lol


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-08 18:50:59
Thanks for the confirmation. So is it Zimmer/Mancina then?


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-08 19:26:45
The themes are basically HZ so...

LLL couldn't credit him since he was not originally credited for the film (back then you rarely had any additional credited anyway for anything).


MacArthur2013-11-08 21:11:54
So it's basically Zimmer anyway.


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-08 21:16:58
Yeah, with these earlier projects I think it's safe to say Zimmer was a lot more of a solo artist. Not that he didn't have help, of course, but he hadn't yet reached the "write suites inspired by the film and have my team edit it to scene" stage.

I'll have to listen to the Final Race cue myself. You can usually tell when Mancina's had a hand in things, his voice is relatively distinctive (you can pretty easily tell what cues he did on The Lion King, for example). Although this is so early in his career, maybe not as much.


Mike2013-11-09 01:11:11
When would you say Zimmer did get to the "write suites inspired by the film and have my team edit it to the scenes" stage? Because you're right, his older scores didn't do that.


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-09 02:04:09
It's quite hard to say. Zimmer has always had a tendency to put long, suite-like cues on his albums, even on his early scores (which is why you get albums like Crimson Tide and The Peacemaker with only five cues, but with crazy 17-minute lengths and such). But back then you got the impression that he was still largely responsible for writing the actual CUES, too - not to mention a lot of those long "suites" were just a ton of cues that ran into each other. Again, I'm not saying he was entirely without help (e.g. Gavin Greenaway on Peacemaker), but more so than today. Exceptions like The Rock existed, but they were just that: exceptions.

If I had to pinpoint a single score where the "I do suites, team does cues" thing started to become the standard Zimmer modus operandi, then I'd say Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl: Zimmer provided the themes, Badelt and Zanelli and all the rest applied them to cues. Which is interesting, because in that score's case it only came about because of the emergency situation of desperately having to finish the score on time. Then I guess came Batman Begins, and Chris Nolan who apparently likes to have Zimmer write music based on the film's CONCEPT rather than directly to cue (although if Batman Begins has suites, I'm not sure we've ever heard them). By Dead Man's Chest and Da Vinci Code, the suite thing was in full force and hasn't changed since.


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-09 02:07:23
Keep in mind that this is PURE speculation on my part; I'm sure Hybrid could correct me on a lot of the above points.


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-09 09:13:07
Actually I have tried to ask when he actually started that method.

And I didn't get an answer (I mean I did but it was more "why" than "when" lol)...

"No theme, no score. But it took a while to figure that out... you see, you can just start writing to picture. The picture will make it "sound" better. But at the end, you're never going to have a piece that can stand on its own, you've never given the director and yourself the chance to really think it all the way through, and you can't ask [everyone] to help fill in the gaps in the movie, because you have to give them the themes, the sound, the production and the intellectual through-line. So the suite becomes a template for the whole film. Man Of Steel is entirely made from that template (actually it's two suites)..."

King Arthur is a score based on 2 big suites (totally unreleased).

He told me Lion King had some suites too, so it's not a new process... Nine Months has a theme suite (We Can Work It Out on OST).

So I guess it depends, on the schedule too...


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-09 18:06:27
I'd love to hear the King Arthur suites. That score is one of my favorites. Although, I imagine they wouldn't contain much that we haven't heard in other forms in the complete score.


MacArthur2013-11-10 17:27:40
I don't know King Arthur was pretty lengthy as a score album.

and I liked it to.


Anonymous2013-11-10 19:22:41
HZ did a lot of cues himself on TDK, comparatively speaking :P


MacArthur2013-11-10 21:21:12
And as far as we know MoS


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-10 21:41:07
Jeez stop giving your opinion about who did what since you have no clue or anything interesting to add but "I think"... :(


Anonymous2013-11-10 21:44:59
Am I wrong.


Mike2013-11-10 21:45:27
There would not be six additional guys in Zimmer did most of the scene-to-scene scoring himself.


MacArthur2013-11-10 21:46:07
Am I wrong.

My bad Forgot to post my name.


Mike2013-11-10 21:46:58
if* Zimmer did most of the scene-to-scene scoring


MacArthur2013-11-10 21:47:59
There were 4 not 6 mike. :)


Mike2013-11-10 21:50:06
Right, sorry. Must have been thinking of another score. Still, I stand by what I said.


Macejko2013-11-10 21:51:13
MacArthur is just anxious to keep himself in the illusion that every piece of music there is in the world is somehow connected to Hans.


MacArthur2013-11-10 21:57:25
Right the Turkish March by Mozart is Hans Zimmer, Or Star Wars is Hans Zimmer.

Quit being a butt-hole! Mace.


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-10 22:25:53
Ohhhhhhh snap! He called you a butthole, Macejko. You better come up with something really scathing to come back from that one. Might I suggest "poophead"?


Macejko2013-11-10 22:36:23
I think I'd rather go and think about my life, Edmund. After Mac's harsh words, it just... It just doesn't feel the same...


MacArthur2013-11-10 23:22:33
Sorry tough week.


isildur2013-11-11 10:27:06
Oh Man! This is so hilarious :D

MacArthur reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-08 21:16:05
Real Quick what does the (V) stand for in discography

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2013-11-08 09:16:04
Added all the booklet credits !


Guizmox2013-11-08 13:06:42
No Mark Mancina inside...

MacArthur reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-07 22:36:59
Just bought it.

Guizmox reply Replies: 2 || 2013-11-05 08:34:32
Ladies and Gentlemen.... The tracklisting !!!


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La-La Land Records and Sony Pictures Entertainment present the original motion picture score to the 2011 feature film drama restless, starring Mia Wasikowska and Henry Hopper and directed by Gus Van Sant. Renowned composer Danny Elfman (EDWARD SCISSORHANDS, BATMAN, SOMMERSBY, BLACK BEAUTY) crafts another notable original score – a delicate, but stirring work, in the vein of his music for MILK and SILVER LININGS PLAYBOOK, that expertly finds the heart and soul of Van Sant’s delightfully offbeat romantic drama. Produced by Danny Elfman and mastered by Patricia Sullivan at Bernie Grundman mastering, this special release is limited to 2000 units and includes exclusive, in-depth liner notes from film music writer Tim Greiving which feature comments from director Gus Van Sant. The attractive art direction is by Dan Goldwasser.

TRACK LISTING:

1. titles 2:41
2. battleship 1:09
3. reconciliation 1:26
4. sorry for your loss 1:54
5. waterbirds 1:43
6. meet the parents 2:20
7. on the beach 2:09
8. hiroshima 1:06
9. morning affair 1:33
10. morgue 1:18
11. crime scene 2:45
12. death scene 2:06
13. happy dead girl 1:11
14. battleship 2 1:50
15. a ghost 1:00
16. the letter 1:34
17. parents’ grave 1:49
18. weepy donuts 3:31
19. enoch’s goodbye 1:21
total album time: 34:25

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La-La Land Records and Paramount Pictures present the world premiere release of acclaimed composer Hans Zimmer’s (BLACK RAIN, THELMA & LOUISE, THE DARK KNIGHT, MAN OF STEEL) full-throttle original score to the 1990 racing drama feature DAYS OF THUNDER, starring Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman and Robert Duvall, and directed by Tony Scott. After waiting decades, film music enthusiasts have finally been rewarded with a worthy release of this Zimmer classic. Clocking in at over 70 minutes, this CD absolutely roars with the kind of blistering dramatic action scoring that vividly demonstrates how Zimmer became one of filmdom’s most important contemporary composers. Rounding out the music presentation are some notable bonus tracks and the song “The Last Note of Freedom,” performed by David Cloverdale. Produced by Dan Goldwasser and mastered by Doug Schwartz, this special limited release of 3000 Units was supervised by the film’s producer, Jerry Bruckheimer and star Tom Cruise. The sleek art design is by Dan Goldwasser, with exclusive, in-depth liner notes by film music writer Tim Greiving, which include feature comments from Bruckheimer and Cruise. This release is dedicated to the late Tony Scott.

TRACK LISTING:

1. Days of Thunder (Main Title) 3:08
2. Rowdy Drives/Who Is This Driver? 2:06
3. Let Me Drive/Cole Drives Rowdy’s Car 2:26
4. Car Building 2:05
5. Darlington – Cole Wins 4:47
6. You’re Home/Daytona Race/The Crash 3:29
7. The Hospital 2:20
8. Wheelchair Race 0:37
9. Rental Car Race* 3:50
10. Claire Arrives at Her Apartment 1:55
11. Physical Kiss 1:05
12. Cole Blows His Engine 1:10
13. Wheeler/Cole Smashes 2:25
14. Cole at the Laundry/Cole Agrees to Drive Rowdy’s Car 2:11
15. Cole and Harry Fight/Harry Talks to Car 2:52
16. Cole in Truck/Pre-Race 3:52
17. The Last Race 10:20
18. “The Last Note of Freedom” 4:57
performed by David Coverdale

BONUS TRACKS
19. The Hospital (alternate) 2:21
20. Wheelchair Race (alternate) 0:38
21. Claire Arrives at Her Apartment (alternate ending) 1:53
22. Cole Blows His Engine (alternate) 1:12
23. Pre-Race (alternate mix) 2:25
24. Days of Thunder (Main Title) (rock arrangement) 4:59
TOTAL ALBUM TIME 71:14
* contains material not used in film

FINAL RACE INSIDE :D


MacArthur2013-11-05 16:32:25
So no iTunes.

But anyway you can probably get it cheaper on Amazon


trent easton navarro2013-11-05 23:16:26
Ordered! (together with Poledouris' The Hunt for Red October) Another holy grail I can cross of my list :D

MacArthur reply Replies: 2 || 2013-10-29 21:32:32
I was just on Discography. What is the red exclamation point by the CD for?


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-29 21:50:24
I think that means the page it links to is relatively new, i.e. you'll find red exclamation points next to most releases from this year, plus any complete/expanded pages that have been recently created, like the Inception sessions page.


MacArthur2013-10-29 22:41:11
Thanks!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 5 || 2013-10-29 14:44:13
Coming next week at LLL !!! Amazing !!!!


JamesT2013-10-29 15:54:17
Yay!!! Great news!! Now, if we can get them to release The Fan next!


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-29 15:59:58
Will it include Mancina's cue from the final race? The bootleg was always missing that.


Bioscope2013-10-29 16:23:21
This is great!


Frisbee2013-10-29 16:30:27
Thunder-tastic!


trent easton navarro2013-10-29 21:33:47
One of my holy grails and one of Hans' greatest scores! Great to finally have an official release.

Now here's hoping an expanded "The Peacemaker" will also happen some day

ZZHH reply Replies: 0 || 2013-10-29 20:27:51
So cool !!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-10-29 16:28:16
Yeah! 23 years later

CAN'T WAIT.

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