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The score reflects the situation of DC movies very well. If Zimmer, like Snyder, continued, the result may not please everyone. A lot of people were unhappy with Snyder's work in the genre, just as many fans of soundtrack were with Zimmer's contributions that never followed the path taken by all the other composers who came before him.<br><br>The two left (regardless of the reason that led them to do this).<br><br>When Zimmer left everyone knew that XL would not hold the pressure or that the result would not be satisfactory for most.<br><br>When Elfman and Whedon were announced we all knew that they were hired to go against everything DC has done before to try to reach the first film of the franchise to reach 1 billion. Even if they were to follow Marvel's script and drop their originality.<br><br>But the hiring of Elfman and Whedon shows that the studio was long lost. Snyder succumbed to BvS. The only salvation for the DCEU are the solo films like Wonder Woman, the next Batman, Aquaman ...and freedom. Freedom for the directors, composers... Warner has always had this advantage over Marvel.@Edmund <br>Given the chance I think Junkie probably could deliver a pretty fun score that stayed thematically consistent with the current universe. It all depends on what the studio/director wants out of the music. The biggest disappointment to me is that this was a huge missed opportunity to do a heroic take on Zimmer’s Superman theme, something we haven’t heard since MoS. Hell, even the trailers did that.... -_-rumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it<br>======================================<br><br>Oh, absolutely! I'm sure we will soon find out that Balfe also scored Star Wars and Titanic. And Harry Potter. And Indiana Jones.Edmund, I somewhat agree - I've seen very little from Junkie to make me think this would have been a groundbreaking, wonderful score. However, maybe it's the Zimmer fan in me, but I would have loved to hear "stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place" in this score. So many scenes begged for just that. Compositionally it doesn't make for an interesting soundtrack or film score, I agree, but I would be willing to sacrifice that for thematic continuity.I certainly understand the criticisms leveled at Elfman's JL score, but I'm not at all convinced Junkie would have been a better option. I've never been too convinced by him anyway (Mad Max was a situation where his sound happened to be a good fit, but even then I think a better composer could have made much more out of the same ingredients). And since anything worthwhile in the previous two (and yeah, I'm aware I like MoS and BvS waaaaaaaay less than the average reader of this site) ended up being by Hans anyway, I really doubt Junkie flying solo would have been up to much. My guess is he would have pulled out stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place without adding much new material on his own, which would have satisfied the DC fans more than what Elfman did, sure, but would have been a lot less interesting as a score album. I mean, say what you want about the questionable thematic decisions Elfman made, the two gigantic full-length action cues are pretty solid in and of themselves. I'll take that over Junkie letting the drums pound for eleven minutes straight, any day of the week.
The studio is the music owner now.There you go. So we probably will never get to hear what Tom planned/did for this movie. I really believe that it would've been great compared to the generic score we got. <br>Only two tracks stood out to me and only one was an actual cue from the movie.Gabriel Yared leaked his Troy back in 2004 but I think he got in quite a lot of trouble for that. There's a reason he hasn't done too many high profile films since then, I think. A few rejecteds have slipped out over the years but it's pretty unheard of for the composer himself to be the one to leak it I think, that would be career suicide if they got caught. Usually they come out the same way complete scores do, some anonymous person working on the scoring team probably did it.and Zimmer criticized Elfman...back and forth, etc. So what? The movie is lame, the score is about as lame as Bat V Sup@JBSO99 you're right. It's so big and widely spread.<br><br>And you're right about me forgetting those score. I just picked these three because Elfman critized Zimmer
@Iamtommie  You forgot the theme by Elliot Goldenthal for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, for not to mention the theme from the 60's TV show and all the themes for all the different animated motion pictures such as The Dark Knight Returns, Mask of the Phantasm, or the videogames like the Arkham series.<br><br>Batman's musical legacy is very big so him saying there is only one theme and his the one he created is really disrespectful to a big amount of composers.Yeah, that's what I thought you meant. And that's what Elfman should have done if he wanted to use the old themes.I think what Elfman said is not true.<br>Batman has different themes for different movies because every Batman is different.<br><br>Michael Keaton as Batman: Elfman's Theme<br>Christian Bale as Batman: Hans' Theme<br>Ben Affleck as Batman: Hans & Junkie's Theme.<br>Of course much more but the most important.<br><br>Each one if dies Batman's have a different story and a different universe. I think that for each universe a new theme is the best thing you can do. With a different theme you can relate more to this Batman than a previous one.<br><br>By the way, I think TDK, MoS & WW are 3 of the top 10 themes by Zimmer. I think what Elfman did the WW theme is an abomination. He removed the key instrument in the theme because he thought it was childisch.<br><br>I think the Justce League score is way worse than previous DCEU or Batman movies. I hope that Lorne of Junkie will do future DCUE movies instead of Elfman.<br><br>(Seeing Justice League thursday. I am curious if it is really that bad as everyine says)GITS was unreleased, JXL's JL score was completely rejected. The real qustion is how many rejected scores have leaked in the history of modern film scoring?Ghost in a thing that doesn't have life but does
Which score would that be?Seeing as how Lorne Balfe “leaked” his own score, I wonder if Tom could easily do the same?Haha - honestly though, before I realized this I felt Jablonsky didn't really bind the score together that well with themes and motifs. This is a pretty cool connection and I'm glad he made it.Almost like this was a film score or something! ;)I don't suppose you have credits for this score, Hybrid?
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Captain Phillips (Complete Score)
Label: Promotional Release
Length: 78'56
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  1. Muse Assembles His Crew (1:47)
    Henry Jackman
  2. Alabama Leaves Port (2:49)
    Henry Jackman
  3. First Attack (8:43)
    Henry Jackman
  4. Second Attack (8:50)
    Henry Jackman
  5. Standoff In The Bridge (5:13)
    Henry Jackman
  6. Touring The Ship (6:15)
    Henry Jackman
  7. Phillips Enters The Lifeboat (6:28)
    Henry Jackman
  8. USS Bainbridge (1:30)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  9. Ship Not Broke (1:16)
    Henry Jackman
  10. Order From The White House (2:08)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  11. Summon The Seals (0:47)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  12. Bainbridge Arrives (3:19)
    Henry Jackman
  13. Unleash The Ribs (4:42)
    Henry Jackman
  14. I Can't Give Up (1:10)
    Henry Jackman
  15. Skydiving Seals (0:32)
    Henry Jackman
  16. Phillips Jumps In The Water (7:24)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer
  17. Seals Take Command (Part 1 & Part 2) (2:36)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  18. T-Shirt Delivery (2:30)
    Henry Jackman
  19. Commence The Tow (5:58)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer
  20. Captain Phillips Finale (5:08)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer
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T-Mann036 reply Replies: 4 || 2014-11-24 03:50:27
Henry and Hans' best complete film score.


Adam2014-11-24 05:52:58
Do they have another "complete film score" together that people are not aware of?


Edmund Meinerts2014-11-24 09:26:51
Henry IV?

(which is a much better score than this one)


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-24 09:36:11
Well doesn't count much since Hans didn't really write anything on that score... lol


Edmund Meinerts2014-11-24 10:16:07
Yeah I know...it was the only thing I could think of. Well, Jackman did work on stuff like Dark Knight and Pirates 3 (which if you're counting those, makes T-Mann036's comment very ridiculous indeed).

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2014-10-22 22:31:58
Hey Hybrid what's with a Front Cover? :D

badbu reply Replies: 2 || 2014-07-08 14:57:26
i want it, i want it! :D


Edmund Meinerts2014-07-08 18:18:34
That kind of enthusiasm for a generic percussive mess of a score?


RealFfingMusic2014-07-09 13:43:46
He gets erections from "generic percussive mess"-ed scores. What can anyone do about it? (Rhetoric, btw.)

JamesT reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-12 02:15:08
Interesting to see the cue sheet info. I love reading all these thoughts and comments. I'm going to start comparing these involved score compositions to a classic car car that been locked away in a garage from public view and comes rolling out "all shiny again" one day.......you never know what's been going on under the hood :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 13 || 2014-03-11 17:15:02
And here is what the cuesheet says...


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-11 17:30:08
This probably isn't even 100% accurate either...it doesn't include e.g. Jasha Klebe, Lorne Balfe, Matthew Margeson and others who are credited with additionals.


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 17:34:15
Of course it's not accurate... It is only interesting for Hans' involvement which is right, but it surely misses all the rest lol...


Lambegue2014-03-11 20:54:27
Yes, very interesting indeed ! Thanks a lot Hybrid


LBF2014-03-11 21:01:46
This all really confusing, Jackman said in an interview with Classic FM that Zimmer didn't write any music for the film.


Lambegue2014-03-11 21:09:48
They wanted to keep it "secret" for some time...Even on this site, the participation of Zimmer wasn't official before several weeks (I think) after the release. So maybe you just heard quite an old interview ?


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-11 21:10:02
I'm sure it's in his contract that he has to say that, LBF... :p


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 21:15:09
Interviews are made to tell lies, or why would any composer need them ? lol


Mike2014-03-11 21:29:35
So Zimmer did the Time ripoff? :D Interesting! Didn't you say it was Lorne though, Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 21:31:01
Oh I still think it's Lorne, but his name will never appear anyway...

I heard even Lorne dropped in the end and Hans finished alone... LOL


LBF2014-03-11 21:34:01
The interview was conducted just a few weeks ago around the BAFTAs, can't put the link on here, but easy to google it. Just seems a little weird as he flat out denies Zimmer being involved at all.


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 21:47:59
Simply because he never admitted publicly what a mess (and a true nightmare) this film & score was !

And when you get nominated for stuff, you shut the hell up...


In private, on the contrary... lol


Lambegue2014-03-11 21:54:29
Was it the director who asks Zimmer to come and write some stuff, or was it Jackman who asked for help ?


isildur2014-03-11 22:36:19
Scene when the BAFTA announced their nominations:

BAFTA : Captain Philiphs nominated for Original Score

Me and Everyone: Haw Haw! :D

Mike reply Replies: 14 || 2014-01-28 04:08:25
I just saw the film. I swear that those last 20 seconds before the credits, as it showed the ships and got all loud and Journey to the Line-esque, were directly from Time. I couldn't tell whether the OST track "Safe Now" cut the cue short or if the mix was slightly different within the film, but if I didn't see a complete and total resemblance to Time before (and Journey to the Line, too), I do now.

And I find it funny that Hybrid says the score was such a mess and the director was such a pain when the score really wasn't even that good. It was serviceable enough in context, but the only music I remember was a bunch of loud WAAAAAAAAAHs for suspense, a Bourne ripoff as the pirates first boarded the Alabama, and of course, the near-carbon copy of Time. It seems like if the director was gonna be such a pain, he wouldn't have settled for the score he got.


MacArthur2014-01-28 16:54:48
I thought the score was great.


Mike2014-01-28 17:47:27
I'll admit I was moved at the end there, but that was primarily because of Tom Hanks' awesome acting, not the music primarily.


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-28 20:51:00
What is so great about this score, MacArthur? Seriously. A bunch of limp action cues that are like Green Zone/Bourne with 10% the energy, and then a Time ripoff with about 10% the emotion. I fail to see what even a hardened Zimmer fanboy such as yourself could find to like in that score. It is, at BEST, serviceable, and nothing more.


MacArthur2014-01-28 21:34:12
Agreed Tom hanks was fantastic. and the score was actually entertaining for the film. the pulsing drum cues for the pirates. the theme for the navy. it was very good and moved the story well. that's all one can ask for. and it was (If you can get past Safe Now) a good action score.


NM2014-01-29 01:46:22
Generic city.

The score was the only bad thing about the film and actively distracted me at at least two points (one of which was the end). A lot of scenes were made to feel more like generic action scenes because of the music, and some of the ethnic sounds haven't been fresh since the 90's. A pity such a great film got a temp-track nightmare.


Mike2014-01-29 03:08:08
Well said, NM.


MacArthur2014-01-29 03:43:59
Ok. I still like the film & the music, to each his own I guess.


Mike2014-01-30 03:29:16
Didn't this film also use part of John Powell's United 93 score?


Russel2014-01-30 03:46:27
You like every film score it seems, MacArthur. Haha.


MacArthur2014-01-30 05:12:05
Not all Social Network sucks. Not a huge fan of the Lion King.


AG2014-01-30 09:30:33
Honestly I don't see what all the fuss is about this "Safe Now" track. I just watched the film and it worked beautifully in the scene and I was very moved. Isn't that what the score is meant to do - enhance what's on the screen? So shouldn't we be less concerned about its resemblance to other of Hans' tracks and focus on how it worked in the film? I don't know, just my opinion.


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-30 12:51:07
By that logic, AG, we wouldn't have to write film scores anymore...just create a huge library of cues labeled "action" "drama" "tragedy" "romance" or whatever and cut and paste them into every single movie. Sure, it would work on a basic level. But then the films wouldn't have an individual sound to them. And that's why "Safe Now" is such a weak cue. Because instead of supporting the visuals it makes me wonder where Captain Phillips' totem is and whether he's in a dream or not.


MacArthur2014-01-30 16:11:49
I don't have a problem with it at all. The logic there wasn't bad AG because there were different cues in the film which were good. just Safe now was the only thing that was really close to Time. I don't mind it, but apparently everyone else does.


Rob2014-02-25 00:09:08
I noticed too that the last shots were scored to music that nearly exactly mimicked Time from Inception. Then I saw Hans Zimmer in the "Thank You's" at the end of the credits. I wonder how that came about. Perhaps he asked Hans's permission? It took me out of the movie a bit, but it was the end and I suspect only film music buffs would notice.

Russel reply Replies: 8 || 2014-01-26 02:02:49
This one's great. :)


badbu2014-01-26 10:55:58
oh, very nice! :)


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-26 12:43:34
Hm. This score was boring enough on the original release, can't see how a complete score will change things...


Mortifer V.2014-01-26 14:36:47
exactly what I was thinking, Edmund.


MacArthur2014-01-26 17:35:07
I like it.


MrZimmerFan2014-01-26 17:57:59
I have mixed feelings about this, i like certain tracks like Second Attack (i know, there is temp samples of Bourne action-strings, but is so adrenalitic), in the other side, isn't much


Scorefan2014-01-26 20:03:55
So, this version only has jackman cues or zimmer and balfe additional cues?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 21:10:27
It's the finale score...

Obviously the Finale is arranged here by Lorne Balfe, actually...


Anonymous2014-01-28 18:23:12
What was that in response to, hybrid soldier?

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