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Will any tracks from Man of Steel be played on the Live2021 tour? It is a life ambition of mine to experience a live performance of it!I missed Jasha Klebe. I thought he did some really good stuff at Bleeding Fingers. I am looking forward to hearing more from Kara Talve. I think she is a really good talent.<br><br>What happened to Marc Streitenfeld? I was going to ask about Klaus Badelt, but I am pretty sure I am not going to get that story.<br>Tom's more recent work has received more love, but I personally love the Fury Road and Rise of an Empire type soundtrack more. I'm looking forward to this and I hope it's close to what Man of Steel and Dawn of Justice sounded like. Although, the snippet he shared doesn't really sound like it. We'll see.That´s why I asked myself, why dont they ever re-unite like before, so yea, they sometimes doInterestingly, Aljoscha is collaborating a lot with 2WEI these days. The Junkie Team reassembles ! lol
Oh I see, very interesting! Many thanks for the answer :)Fired ?!
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<br>Haha no.
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<br>You gotta realize being an additional composer is not exactly an easy thing. Some jump ship after a few years or have other aspirations, try to work solo and so on.
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<br>Vörlander worked for Junkie from 2010 to 2015, then started his own business of writing for commercials, trailers etc. (it's called 2WEI, in Germany) He even did keep working on some trailers for JXL's scores after that, or helped on FIFA 17. Junkie had Aljoscha Christenhuß who worked for him from 2015 to 2018. Then Antonio jointed in 2016, Sara Barone joined more recently last year.
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<br>Thomas is doing his own thing too, he founded Chromium Music and is doing some solo projects now.
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<br>Jasha, after working for Lorne & Hans, "transfered" to Bleeding Fingers but after a while left to focus on his own solo career too.
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<br>Ultimately, everyone leaves, sooner or later... :)@Hybrid, I was always wondering, what happened to composers like Thomas Farnon, Jasha Klebe or Christian Vorlander - why are they not working with Lorne/Junkie anymore? Did they get fired or did they just move on? I find it weird, that Lorne/Rupert/Junkie/Etc would fire their additional composers after all those years of collaboration.The theme he was supposed to write but didn't ? :D lol<br><br>Well don't take word for word what he says. He's being general, the interview was for Forbes afterall.<br><br>Just take the extract we got, it had a quote from BvS that had nothing to do with either Superman or Wonder Woman... lol*forgot to mentioned
"Besides the Man of Steel theme for Superman and the theme for Wonder Woman, which I have given a new spin, all the other themes for this movie are brand new,”<br><br>I hope Tom just forget to mention about Batman's theme and will reuse it too, because if he don't, then what's the point of it?Junkie's score for GvK is probably going to be better than his score for Justice League if he is that interested in doing a score for a godzilla movie.And this<br><br>“On Godzilla vs. Kong, I said, ‘I think we need the biggest bass drum on the planet for this score. I know the guy who can build it, what do you think?’ They just said, ‘Let’s do it.’ So I said I want a bass drum that is at least eight feet in diameter,” he laughed. “The guy called me back, and he asked, ‘Is it okay if it’s only six?’ I said, ‘Could we do eight? Why can’t we do ten?’ The answer was, ‘Well, there’s simply no cow alive that has a skin big enough to cover for a ten-foot bass drum.’ So, we have to scale it down to eight.Also, a bit of GvK:<br><br>'A perfect example is the Godzilla vs. Kong movie that is coming out next year,” he enthused. “I’m such a Godzilla freak. I have all the Japanese versions of the movies. At a certain point, just for s**ts and giggles, I wrote something for Godzilla. About two years ago, I met the director because he showed interest in me as a composer. I asked him, ‘Do you know I’m the biggest Godzilla fan on the planet, and, years ago, I wrote some stuff.’ He was like, ‘You’re kidding me?’ So we started communicating, I tweaked what I did, played it for him, and he was totally in love.”Tom's interview kinda exactly confirms what I said ! lol<br><br>"Besides the Man of Steel theme for Superman and the theme for Wonder Woman, which I have given a new spin, all the other themes for this movie are brand new,” he revealed. “Some of them I did the groundwork on four years ago, but as you grow as a composer, you look at what you did and maybe have a better way of doing it now or a better idea. It was inspiring. I would get an idea in my downtime and think, ‘Oh, let’s rework this thing. Let’s do that.’ Because I knew for a while that this was coming, I had the time and space to shape it into its best possible form."
@Hybrid besides Tom style, do you like the more orchestral style with Di Lorio or the more electronic style with Vorlander?Interesting! It sounds like he’s almost starting from the ground up, which actually might end up sounding better than what we would’ve gotten had the original film been released in 2017. <br><br>I’m also interested in the theme suites/sketchbooks he wrote back then, and if they will still be used as a basis for the score. Either way the end result is gonna be cool I feel, hopefully we get a great score release from WaterTower!Well since the thing is completely going to be re-edited (series format, probably 4h movie after), lots of scenes added & altered (something even if Snyder had stayed in 2017, he couldn't have done freely), a lot of work to be done for sure.
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<br>Writing new cues, maybe changing others completely. Rewriting with all the edits probably making scenes longer etc.
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<br>You probably have the core of the score, the themes, the big ideas & cues done, but you have to readapt it almost completely ! And, as I said, in 3 years, maybe Tom can listen to something he wrote 3 years ago and go "ok, I got that completely wrong, let's try something else."@HybridSoldier<br>That’s completely true. Do you think we will ultimately get a hybrid of Tom’s original score mixed with whatever else he is writing currently? <br><br>He says in the preview that there is much more to write, which is interesting considering the original cut was supposedly “mostly done”...Wanted, such underrated action score
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Captain Phillips (Complete Score)
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Length: 78'56
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  1. Muse Assembles His Crew (1:47)
    Henry Jackman
  2. Alabama Leaves Port (2:49)
    Henry Jackman
  3. First Attack (8:43)
    Henry Jackman
  4. Second Attack (8:50)
    Henry Jackman
  5. Standoff In The Bridge (5:13)
    Henry Jackman
  6. Touring The Ship (6:15)
    Henry Jackman
  7. Phillips Enters The Lifeboat (6:28)
    Henry Jackman
  8. USS Bainbridge (1:30)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  9. Ship Not Broke (1:16)
    Henry Jackman
  10. Order From The White House (2:08)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  11. Summon The Seals (0:47)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  12. Bainbridge Arrives (3:19)
    Henry Jackman
  13. Unleash The Ribs (4:42)
    Henry Jackman
  14. I Can't Give Up (1:10)
    Henry Jackman
  15. Skydiving Seals (0:32)
    Henry Jackman
  16. Phillips Jumps In The Water (7:24)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer
  17. Seals Take Command (Part 1 & Part 2) (2:36)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  18. T-Shirt Delivery (2:30)
    Henry Jackman
  19. Commence The Tow (5:58)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer
  20. Captain Phillips Finale (5:08)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer
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Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-15 05:55:12
Hybrid, what's the story with Finale vs. Safe Now? On this page Finale is listed as Jackman and Zimmer. On the OST page, it's Jackman, Zimmer, & Jasha Klebe. The two versions are different too. Finale has a longer intro and a big outro that makes the Time thing even more obvious. So are they two different tracks with different credits, or is Safe Now just Finale clipped short?

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 4 || 2014-11-24 03:50:27
Henry and Hans' best complete film score.

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Adam2014-11-24 05:52:58
Do they have another "complete film score" together that people are not aware of?


Edmund Meinerts2014-11-24 09:26:51
Henry IV?

(which is a much better score than this one)


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-24 09:36:11
Well doesn't count much since Hans didn't really write anything on that score... lol


Edmund Meinerts2014-11-24 10:16:07
Yeah I know...it was the only thing I could think of. Well, Jackman did work on stuff like Dark Knight and Pirates 3 (which if you're counting those, makes T-Mann036's comment very ridiculous indeed).

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2014-10-22 22:31:58
Hey Hybrid what's with a Front Cover? :D

badbu reply Replies: 2 || 2014-07-08 14:57:26
i want it, i want it! :D


Edmund Meinerts2014-07-08 18:18:34
That kind of enthusiasm for a generic percussive mess of a score?


RealFfingMusic2014-07-09 13:43:46
He gets erections from "generic percussive mess"-ed scores. What can anyone do about it? (Rhetoric, btw.)

JamesT reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-12 02:15:08
Interesting to see the cue sheet info. I love reading all these thoughts and comments. I'm going to start comparing these involved score compositions to a classic car car that been locked away in a garage from public view and comes rolling out "all shiny again" one day.......you never know what's been going on under the hood :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 13 || 2014-03-11 17:15:02
And here is what the cuesheet says...


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-11 17:30:08
This probably isn't even 100% accurate either...it doesn't include e.g. Jasha Klebe, Lorne Balfe, Matthew Margeson and others who are credited with additionals.


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 17:34:15
Of course it's not accurate... It is only interesting for Hans' involvement which is right, but it surely misses all the rest lol...


Lambegue2014-03-11 20:54:27
Yes, very interesting indeed ! Thanks a lot Hybrid


LBF2014-03-11 21:01:46
This all really confusing, Jackman said in an interview with Classic FM that Zimmer didn't write any music for the film.


Lambegue2014-03-11 21:09:48
They wanted to keep it "secret" for some time...Even on this site, the participation of Zimmer wasn't official before several weeks (I think) after the release. So maybe you just heard quite an old interview ?


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-11 21:10:02
I'm sure it's in his contract that he has to say that, LBF... :p


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 21:15:09
Interviews are made to tell lies, or why would any composer need them ? lol


Mike2014-03-11 21:29:35
So Zimmer did the Time ripoff? :D Interesting! Didn't you say it was Lorne though, Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 21:31:01
Oh I still think it's Lorne, but his name will never appear anyway...

I heard even Lorne dropped in the end and Hans finished alone... LOL


LBF2014-03-11 21:34:01
The interview was conducted just a few weeks ago around the BAFTAs, can't put the link on here, but easy to google it. Just seems a little weird as he flat out denies Zimmer being involved at all.


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 21:47:59
Simply because he never admitted publicly what a mess (and a true nightmare) this film & score was !

And when you get nominated for stuff, you shut the hell up...


In private, on the contrary... lol


Lambegue2014-03-11 21:54:29
Was it the director who asks Zimmer to come and write some stuff, or was it Jackman who asked for help ?


isildur2014-03-11 22:36:19
Scene when the BAFTA announced their nominations:

BAFTA : Captain Philiphs nominated for Original Score

Me and Everyone: Haw Haw! :D

Mike reply Replies: 14 || 2014-01-28 04:08:25
I just saw the film. I swear that those last 20 seconds before the credits, as it showed the ships and got all loud and Journey to the Line-esque, were directly from Time. I couldn't tell whether the OST track "Safe Now" cut the cue short or if the mix was slightly different within the film, but if I didn't see a complete and total resemblance to Time before (and Journey to the Line, too), I do now.

And I find it funny that Hybrid says the score was such a mess and the director was such a pain when the score really wasn't even that good. It was serviceable enough in context, but the only music I remember was a bunch of loud WAAAAAAAAAHs for suspense, a Bourne ripoff as the pirates first boarded the Alabama, and of course, the near-carbon copy of Time. It seems like if the director was gonna be such a pain, he wouldn't have settled for the score he got.


MacArthur2014-01-28 16:54:48
I thought the score was great.


Mike2014-01-28 17:47:27
I'll admit I was moved at the end there, but that was primarily because of Tom Hanks' awesome acting, not the music primarily.


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-28 20:51:00
What is so great about this score, MacArthur? Seriously. A bunch of limp action cues that are like Green Zone/Bourne with 10% the energy, and then a Time ripoff with about 10% the emotion. I fail to see what even a hardened Zimmer fanboy such as yourself could find to like in that score. It is, at BEST, serviceable, and nothing more.


MacArthur2014-01-28 21:34:12
Agreed Tom hanks was fantastic. and the score was actually entertaining for the film. the pulsing drum cues for the pirates. the theme for the navy. it was very good and moved the story well. that's all one can ask for. and it was (If you can get past Safe Now) a good action score.


NM2014-01-29 01:46:22
Generic city.

The score was the only bad thing about the film and actively distracted me at at least two points (one of which was the end). A lot of scenes were made to feel more like generic action scenes because of the music, and some of the ethnic sounds haven't been fresh since the 90's. A pity such a great film got a temp-track nightmare.


Mike2014-01-29 03:08:08
Well said, NM.


MacArthur2014-01-29 03:43:59
Ok. I still like the film & the music, to each his own I guess.


Mike2014-01-30 03:29:16
Didn't this film also use part of John Powell's United 93 score?


Russel2014-01-30 03:46:27
You like every film score it seems, MacArthur. Haha.


MacArthur2014-01-30 05:12:05
Not all Social Network sucks. Not a huge fan of the Lion King.


AG2014-01-30 09:30:33
Honestly I don't see what all the fuss is about this "Safe Now" track. I just watched the film and it worked beautifully in the scene and I was very moved. Isn't that what the score is meant to do - enhance what's on the screen? So shouldn't we be less concerned about its resemblance to other of Hans' tracks and focus on how it worked in the film? I don't know, just my opinion.


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-30 12:51:07
By that logic, AG, we wouldn't have to write film scores anymore...just create a huge library of cues labeled "action" "drama" "tragedy" "romance" or whatever and cut and paste them into every single movie. Sure, it would work on a basic level. But then the films wouldn't have an individual sound to them. And that's why "Safe Now" is such a weak cue. Because instead of supporting the visuals it makes me wonder where Captain Phillips' totem is and whether he's in a dream or not.


MacArthur2014-01-30 16:11:49
I don't have a problem with it at all. The logic there wasn't bad AG because there were different cues in the film which were good. just Safe now was the only thing that was really close to Time. I don't mind it, but apparently everyone else does.


Rob2014-02-25 00:09:08
I noticed too that the last shots were scored to music that nearly exactly mimicked Time from Inception. Then I saw Hans Zimmer in the "Thank You's" at the end of the credits. I wonder how that came about. Perhaps he asked Hans's permission? It took me out of the movie a bit, but it was the end and I suspect only film music buffs would notice.

Russel reply Replies: 8 || 2014-01-26 02:02:49
This one's great. :)


badbu2014-01-26 10:55:58
oh, very nice! :)


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-26 12:43:34
Hm. This score was boring enough on the original release, can't see how a complete score will change things...


Mortifer V.2014-01-26 14:36:47
exactly what I was thinking, Edmund.


MacArthur2014-01-26 17:35:07
I like it.


MrZimmerFan2014-01-26 17:57:59
I have mixed feelings about this, i like certain tracks like Second Attack (i know, there is temp samples of Bourne action-strings, but is so adrenalitic), in the other side, isn't much


Scorefan2014-01-26 20:03:55
So, this version only has jackman cues or zimmer and balfe additional cues?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 21:10:27
It's the finale score...

Obviously the Finale is arranged here by Lorne Balfe, actually...


Anonymous2014-01-28 18:23:12
What was that in response to, hybrid soldier?

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