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@Bob<br><br>Thank you for the enlightment, I will consider opening my wrists for misconduct in the next few days, thank you very much... :o<br><br><br><br>Ok seriously though, you guys should know that if there's one guy that could not care less about awards... it's Hans... :)I am really enjoying his season of the Crown.a big balfe influence in this season with hints of Churchil and Genius I think. Really excellent music/ it's me@ds "Ramin is also doing a lot of projects but is far, far behind in terms of styles and creativity."<br> <br>I think the same for Jablonsky, Zanelli, XL, Jackman and Mancina.@macejko<br><br>"All the time he acts like the hottest shit in town, refusing to score basically everything they offer him"<br><br>You said in another comment that you never read an interview with Powell, so not reason you take that kind of conclusion of your character.<br><br>"The man hides in a cave, doesn't evolve at all and for some mysterious reason he is still revered like a second coming of Jesus Christ."<br>Powell is a clearly talented composer. He suffered criticism at the beginning of his career by sounding like Zimmer, but soon showed substance. And much more than that created an identifiable style, which today is reference to other scores of modern animations (which may be good or bad to depend on of the point of view).<br>Today he is an established composer and it is common for these composers to move away for a few years or even close their careers without many explanations for the public. In recent years we watched the estrangement of Silvestri, Horner, Williams and in the past we saw Faltemeyer, Bill Conti and Brad Fiedel drop their careers when they were at the top of the game.<br><br>" Say anything you will about Lorne Balfe, but at least he is working his ass off and slowly getting better and better"<br><br>As they said in another comment, you're compared to newbies and veterans. Balfe's having the opportunity of his life now. Take it or leave it. There's no choice. Powell, as well as Zimmer others, on the other hand, is a "senior member" of the club. He can afford to go away for a few years to resolve comprehensible personal problems without affecting the hard work he has developed in the last 20 years. Will Balfe continue to be so creative in 10 or 15 years?<br><br>@ds<br><br>"<br>Powell has nothing to prove, he has already mastered all genres"<br><br>That's funny, but it's fair. Powell Is a good composer. Not the best, far from it. Your style really narrows your work down, but we can say that from all the composers out there. So it's not a problem.The problem is he wants to limit his work to animations and fantasy.because he abhors gratuitous violence.<br><br>@george<br><br>". Although, I hate to say it, we could say the same for Zimmer in my opinion"<br><br>Zimmer's at the end of his career. All the other composers when they arrived at 60 years (with the exception of JNH, Goldsmith and Morricone) reduced the amount of projects per year and went on to choose their work best. It's a natural way.Over the years, it tends to get worse with one exception here and there. Don't keep expectations like he's in his prime<br><br>"he has "nothing more to prove", he is creatively dead."<br><br><br>Powell will work with a little more frequently in the coming years (or not) that only depends on his ambitions. However, frankly, he's never going to do three again. 4.5. 6 projects in a year. It takes a lot of motivation for that.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
Just listened to the whole thing, kind of a let down. Nothing interessting except for some action moments. Donít even recall hearing some sort of theme. Overall it was like listening to Cars 4: Spanish World Cup.I have already listened to The Jumanji Overture and I must say it sounds really great. Let's see how the rest of the score sounds.Tracklist with track duration:<br>01. The Jumanji Overture (03:20)<br>02. Digging Up The Past (01:43)<br>03. Brantfort High (01:09)<br>04. Into The Jungle (01:23)<br>05. Out of Character (02:31)<br>06. The Legend of the Jewel (02:23)<br>07. The Adventure Begins (01:40)<br>08. Special Abilities (01:16)<br>09. The Bikers (03:44)<br>10. Van Pelt (01:00)<br>11. A Test Of Friendship (01:22)<br>12. The Bazaar (01:16)<br>13. Snake Charmer (03:41)<br>14. The Power of Bravestone (01:04)<br>15. Seaplane McDonough (02:17)<br>16. The Missing Piece (01:46)<br>17. Lost In Time (01:18)<br>18. Flirting With Danger (01:36)<br>19. Albino Rhinos (03:44)<br>20. Retrieving the Emerald (01:54)<br>21. Out of Lives (01:49)<br>22. First Kiss (01:22)<br>23. The Jaguars (03:03)<br>24. Ring of Fire (02:07)<br>25. Begin The Climb (01:56)<br>26. Call Out Its Name (02:23)<br>27. leaving Jumanji (03:03)<br>28. An Older Friend (02:40)<br>29. Back To School (01:53)@ds the same for desplat's victory with Budapest Hotel.Maybe. I'd sure be happy for you lot ;) And I'd definitely rather see Powell attached to a project than, say, RGW, Junkie or Desplat. <br><br>That Solo movie is going to be a disaster, though.
One more thing: if indeed the reason for Powell's semi-hiatus was to be with his family as much as possible, we may well see his activity increase again in coming years now that his wife has passed away and his son is close to graduating high school (I couldn't find an exact date of birth for him but I think he's 16 or 17). Him taking on a project as big and ambitious as Star Wars isn't exactly the sign of someone who wants to take it easy. It's too early to say yet though.hans should win the oscar for best sound effects and not for the best music/score. just as a statement.And it's also unfair to use Balfe to criticize Powell. He started working on American projects in 2005 with Batman Begins, and only after 2010 did he receive individual projects. Is it accurate to compare someone who entered the party at the last minute with two others who are in it for 20 (Powell) and 30 (Zimmer)?<br><br>I'm in a hurry and I put everything into a translator. Forgive the many mistakes.<br> <br><br><br>Composers do not need to worry about the attention, acceptance of the public of the same or the same intensity as pop music artists do. There's no need to do that. Occasionally some name draws attention to the public and causes many people to be in the genre, Williams and Zimmer are the main examples that I can bring the table. However it is not because Williams or Zimmer are extremely popular and perhaps worry about the material they are offering to the public who adores them that all the composers of the world need to do equal. Most of these men and women even enxeega as "celebrity". They are more like artisans or the rest of the crew of a film that occupies with the lights, effects and costumes and that will never have the same response from the public as the main actor. And they don't even expect it. So I think it's foolish to wait for Powell to occupy himself in 2,3 movies a year to please a fanbase.<br><br>I'll agree with you when it says it's deplorable to see CPR composers who talk so much about building a single voice and giving emerging talent the opportunity to use so many additional composers (many of them with a possible promise that in the future they will work with Zimmer and thus have the opportunity to show his face in Hollywood.The sense is almost always these.You start with a secondary composer, he arrives at Zimmer and gains some kind of notoriety). But Powell is not the only one who does this. So he should not be the only one criticized.Well...it's a film score. It has no obligation to provide a pleasant or enjoyable listening experience, and for an award like this that doesn't really come into consideration. So if it works in the film, it did its job and that's all that matters.<br><br>For me personally, as someone who cares about music first and films second, a score like Dunkirk has little value. A few years ago I probably would have been pretty mad about this score winning awards and acclaim (you should have seen how salty I got when The Social Network beat out HTTYD), but these days... *shrug*. I know what I like, Dunkirk isn't it, and that's fine. It wasn't written for me. Do I wish Hans still wrote the kind of music I like? Of course. But he gets to make his own choices as an artist, just as I get to choose what to listen to as a fan.
The score is already on itunes.This score... so many mixed emotions. Does it work for the film? Heck yeah. Does it improve the film? So much so. Did Hans do what he set out to do? Totally. Is it an award winning masterpiece? Um, not so fast.<br><br>Dunkirk, while super effective within the context of the film (I wouldnít change a thing about it), I must admit, it doesnít have nearly the same effect as a stand-alone listen. Itís literally the same textures and notes over and over again, just slightly rising and falling in pitch and tempo. Does that make it ďawardĒ worthy? Iím not sure. If based solely on the film, you betcha. If based purely on the music itself, I donít think so. Thatís where Interstellar succeeds so far and away over Dunkirk. As a pure listening experience, Interstellar is interesting, multi-layered and emotional. Whereas Dunkirk is just flat, void of any sort of feeling or ďactualĒ music (again, works IN the film). Itís glorified sound FX (save for the end, which, no doubt, is in large part to Ben).<br><br>Hmm... Iíve never had a score tear me apart more than this one. I both love it and hate it. Maybe it did itís job... lol.<br><br>Excuse me while I go listen to No Time for Caution yet again.I think most of us agree that he should've won for Interstellar but I think Dunkirk deserves it too. The work Hans and the music department did on this movie is just incredible. Must've been a lot of hard work. <br>An award is an award, Hans' 2nd Oscar is long overdue so I'd be glad to see him win. But it would be weird to see him win for THAT score, after all the greatnesses of the past 20 years. Same thing with Morricone who won his only Oscar for his very light and insignificant work on Hateful Eight. Good for the man, good for the fans, but doesn't really make sense. But have Oscars ever made sense? :-phaha hybrid :D made my day
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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2014-03-08 19:52:32
I added all the credits of the songs HZ & co worked on... :)


theeaglesfan0052014-03-09 02:36:40
Do you happen to have the credits for all the songs? :D


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-09 08:17:47
Yes but the rest of the album has nothing to do with RCP, and it would be a pain to type all LOL...

trent easton ellis reply Replies: 13 || 2014-03-07 11:52:54
As much as I enjoy discussing the female body, let's talk music. Anybody already heard this?


MacArthur2014-03-07 16:42:03
Not heard this but I am curious to see how much Pharrell does in Spider-man 2


RealFfingMusic2014-03-07 17:39:56
"They" get special attention only from people like you, who are ashamed of their own bodies.

And it's not their self-esteem that's wrong, it's your perspective.

BTW, can you kindly explain how is this self-centered?


RealFfingMusic2014-03-07 17:41:44
Sorry, this is for MacArthur the 400-year-old Virgin.


RealFfingMusic2014-03-07 18:02:20
Wikipedia said that Johnny Marr, Michael Einziger and David A. Stewart are working with Williams and Hans.


MacArthur2014-03-07 23:02:37
And Obviously you. or you wouldn't be arguing with me. Obviously you can't control yourself from looking at it I've tried to Identify and not watch films with that stuff. Now sometimes when you buy 4pack dvd's for two you want that can't really be helped. but as much as I can, I try to avoid it.

What's the saying don't argue with idiots.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-07 23:10:25
Sage advice, MacArthur. Remind me never to argue with you again.


Lambegue2014-03-07 23:32:48
Thanks for this, Edmund ! I had a good laugh.


Areozz2014-03-08 00:01:12
OH BUUUUUURN!!!


MacArthur2014-03-08 00:27:12
My point exactly.


trent easton navarro2014-03-08 09:38:11
So much for discussing the music :(


MacArthur2014-03-08 15:34:48
I want to. they keep bringing it up. Even after I said I was done. with the conversation.

Let's talk about music.

I hope Pharrell does not do more than 1 or 2 tracks on the albumm release of ASM2.


trent easton navarro2014-03-08 15:42:27
Gave this a listen on Spotify today. It's actually quite ok. Can't really hear any Zimmer influence though...

As for Spidey, it's an eclectic group of musicians that's working on it. Have huge respect for Marr and Dave Stewart (although the latter hasn't been mentioned anymore in the last couple of updates.


MacArthur2014-03-08 15:50:33
That's Cool.

MacArthur reply Replies: 65 || 2014-02-24 21:37:06
Don't Like this guy at all. Is this another where he dances with naked girls.


isildur2014-02-25 07:31:18
LOL! You Rock MacArthur :D


MacArthur2014-02-25 16:45:31
Thank you. At least I know someone agree's with me :D


0-cool2014-02-25 21:03:18
what's wrong with naked girls?

also here's a glimpse of the string arrangement

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fT_GlomuXw


MacArthur2014-02-25 22:06:38
I agree it might be fun to look at. but is it honoring to them as a person?


Edmund Meinerts2014-02-25 23:04:33
Nobody's forcing them to do it.


MacArthur2014-02-26 02:34:44
I know. that's low self esteem on their part. Still it's not the best thing for us. It's all about honor.


WTF2014-02-26 14:20:00
WTF MacArthur


MacArthur2014-02-26 15:53:45
We Should not treat women like they are pieces of meat. but as people That's what I mean.


0-cool2014-02-26 16:36:10
it's god's fault


isildur2014-02-26 16:39:21
ROFL.


SanAntonioSpurs2014-02-26 20:39:58
Because I'm HAPPY... :)


MacArthur2014-02-26 22:14:12
what are you talking about. and it's not God's fault


trent easton navarro2014-02-27 20:31:40
You are just jealous naked girls don't wanna dance with you, MacArthur :P


MacArthur2014-02-28 06:29:58
Actually no I think that's sick.


Areozz2014-02-28 13:40:58
Well, now we know that MacArthur is a time traveler from the 1800s.


MacArthur2014-02-28 16:26:29
What Morals are only relevant in the 1800's?


trent easton navarro2014-02-28 17:46:51
nothing sick about a naked body, dancing or otherwise


Edmund Meinerts2014-02-28 18:59:40
The 1800s gave us morals that said that for girls to show their ankles was considered shocking or that being gay was a degenerate disease...yeah, society has done well to move on from that, I'd say.


MacArthur2014-02-28 19:19:42
Yeah, and look where we are today more rapes than ever before. more violence. Drug abuse is higher than before. And people like Pharrell aren't helping any.

and yes trent nothing wrong with dancing...with your clothes on. They have strip clubs for a reason and it is illegal for a reason.


trent easton navarro2014-02-28 19:51:49
I'm sorry but those things have nothing do with girls dancing naked in a videoclip. Just as films and games don't lead to violence in society.



MacArthur2014-02-28 21:21:29
Why do you think that the video was so controversial. because leading artist were in it it's porn.


Edmund Meinerts2014-02-28 21:24:55
I'd like to see a source for your "more rapes and drug abuse" stat there, Mac. First of all, things like that probably weren't documented as well back then. Plus, there's a whole lot more people on earth now. The number might have increased but the proportion probably hasn't. And I can assure you that nothing Pharrell does or doesn't do (other than commit the deed himself) has anything to do with rape trends whatsoever.


trent easton navarro2014-02-28 21:48:37
The video was certainly not porn, nor were the dancers (at least as far as I know) The video was controversial cause people in the States still get upset when you show some skin. People don't care about violent films, but show boobies and there's panic everywhere! There is nothing wrong with the naked body, nor showing it


MacArthur2014-03-01 02:46:07
Ed I believe A few years back Stand to reason had a stat on it as well as world Magazine. and I don't believe it had to do with the amount of people. Back then people had a better sense of morals. My folks and a lot of other people who grew up 50-60 years ago say that the stuff going on today just didn't happen back then.

If that helps.

Trent, the Idea is that it's for marriage. It's for a husband and wife. and if not. at least it should be a private thing. whether with a girl friend, wife, what have you. it's should be something where you show honor for the person.


Ds2014-03-01 15:33:15
Trent, i would not compare violence and nudity. Violence is fake, simulated. An actor is PLAYING the role of someone killing people. Nudity however is real. When an actor get fully naked, you're not seeing a character naked, you're seeing the actor. It's not a performance, it doesn't require any talent. I think MacArthur's point is to ask that simple question: is it really respectful or humanist to hire an actress for the sole and only purpose of showing her titties to the whole world? If Pharell doesn't see any problem in that, good for him. But then I wonder why he's not showing his own private parts in that video. Does he have a special sense of morality that only applies to him?

I'm not judging anybody, just asking a question. If you, personnally, doesn't see any problem in nudity, how would you react if your sister/daughter/mother/wife was a porn star and every person on earth could watch her naked? I would not like it, and that's why I don't think it's a job that valorize girls as human beings. But again it's just my humble opinion.


MacArthur2014-03-01 16:38:08
Thank you. Ds, that was one of the point's I was trying to make. There was a reason Hollywood used to make actors and actresses wear clothing or underwear in scenes that suggested that.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-01 17:13:58
Once again, if the girls enjoy or don't mind what they're doing and know full well what they're getting themselves into from the start, I fail to see what the problem is. Nobody's being forced to strip or anything. And nobody's being forced to watch it either.


trent easton navarro2014-03-01 19:24:54
There is a huge difference between being naked in a film and videoclip and starring a pornfilm. If you can't see that, there is no point in having this discussion.

But if one of my loved ones was a model or actress and had to be naked for a part it wouldn't bother me, it's part of the job. I also think posing nude (be it male or female) can be a great way to honor the human body.


Ds2014-03-02 03:03:10
Trent, ok, replace "porn star" by "stripper" in my post. This is just a detail.

But what you say is "if one of my loved ones HAD TO get naked"... what the hell does this mean? What job are you talking about? Are some people forced to be naked? Do they even have the choice? Or do they get fired for not wanting to be naked? I really don't think that is a humanist point of view.

Btw, this is funny how MacArthur has started a big debate on here, which has nothing to do with film music nor Hans Zimmer, but is still interesting and picked the interest of some of the biggest posters of this board!


a hole2014-03-02 05:22:35
*piqued the interest.

Also: god damn this is hilarious. Thank God or some other deity or maybe no deity at all for aiding in the invention of the internet so that a bunch of nobodies can force their opinions and beliefs on others and treat them as facts concerning what we, as a--no, THE--human race, are and are not allowed to do with our bodies. gods damn!


MacArthur2014-03-02 05:27:40
The actor's can choose not to be Nude. Jessica Alba doesn't do nude scenes she has come out and said that her body is for only her. Not for some guy to go drooling over. which all guys do if they are natural.

Ed you are right. nobody has to watch it but why do it in the first place then? If it causes offense to others, then don't you think it would be wise just not to do it at all.


Trent, it may not bother you but the thing is it does bother a lot of other people. The thing to do is think of others, and not do it. It's honoring their bodies as well as helping those who struggle with it not to worry about it as much. and I suppose someone can pose nude, but what is the purpose of it. (TO GET SOMEONE TO LOOK AT IT.) just don't do it honor yourself by not making men, or women, lust after you honor their morals as well as holding self esteem for yourself.


trent easton navarro2014-03-02 10:14:27
So Meryl Streep is a stripper and a pornstar? As are Helen Mirren, Kate Winslet, Angelina Jolie and Charlize Theron?

And don't twist my words, Ds. You know perfectly well what I meant. When you are an actor you have to expose yourself. Mentally, emotionally and sometimes also physically.

There is a scene in Schindler's List where a group of women are in Auschwitz. If you've seen the film, you know what scene I'm talking about. Do you think that scene would have had the same impact if the actresses were in their bra and panties? Same with the nude scenes in 12 Years a Slave.


Lambegue2014-03-02 11:06:33
There is maybe a difference to make about the context : showing nude only to attract male public is...Well I won't say really unrespectful toward the girls, it's just a bit low. Comparing it to porn is excessive, but I can get the point, the idea is quite the same basically, that is to say stimulate a sexual desire...I'm not sure it's of great interest in the majority of the musical clips that do it, and I don't think there is any artistic background behind this (or any desire to valorise the human body...). It doesn't deserve the disgust that MacArthur seems to show it, in my opinion, but it's just not interesting at all, and even possibly lowering toward the music of the clip (as if they considered that the music wasn't good enough in itself to keep the attention of people).
But yes, I agree with Trent, nude is not a disgusting or immoral thing in itself. It can be beautiful, artistic, or aesthetic. Or justified in its context (as in Shindler's list, for example). An actress or a model showing nude is not necessarly a porn star or a stripper, and there is nothing to be ashamed of...


trent easton navarro2014-03-02 11:19:57
@Lambegue thank you, could not have said it better.

"If it causes offense to others, then don't you think it would be wise just not to do it at all."

Zimmer's music apparently also causes offense to some people. Should he stop making music, MacArthur?


Ds2014-03-02 13:33:34
I think Lambegue summed up the topic quite well. Thank you.


RealFfingMusic2014-03-02 15:10:28
Personally, I think if the scene requires the shot, it has to be shot.


MacArthur2014-03-02 17:25:38
Trent, you're missing the the point Zimmer's music is not morally wrong. Though I do see what you are saying about Schindler's List. but even with that was it necessary. There was another film like Schindler's list called the Hiding place Their was suggestive nudity but none was shown. Now that is artistic. showing something without showing something. That is what 'art' is all about.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-02 17:44:59
There's nothing "morally wrong" about naked bodies, MacArthur. That kind of thinking is much more damaging and harmful than the stuff you're complaining about, because it makes people feel ashamed of their own bodies and who they are. People should feel proud of themselves, not ashamed.

Once again - because you STILL haven't addressed this - if people want to show off their bodies, are perfectly fine with doing that, don't find it embarrassing or shameful, then you have no right to tell them not to. Nobody is being forced to watch it, nobody is being forced to strip, and nobody is being forced to do anything against their will. You think you have the moral high ground but instead you come across as a cranky old man.


trent easton navarro2014-03-02 20:42:29
Different example then. Brett Easton Ellis is considered one of the best writers of his generation but some consider his work morally offensive. Should we ban all his books because of that? Oliver Stone and Paul Verhoeven made controversial yet classic films. Should we ban those as well because some find them offensive?

And like Edmund said, there is nothing morally wrong about nudity. Some of the greatest pieces of art contain nudity. Should those be destroyed?


MacArthur2014-03-02 23:40:52
There is a difference between a painting and a Human. I know it causes people...at times to stumble and I think the right thing to do is to just do your best not to show it. if somebody does it I can't stop them. It's just not the best thing for us. And with that logic why shouldn't I or someone else if we feel like it just walk the streets nude. I feel like and there is nothing wrong with it.


a hole2014-03-03 02:01:00
God damn, you're a lunatic!


MacArthur2014-03-03 04:54:49
Why...Because I have a moral conviction. people are lunatics if they don't have Morals.

I'm done with this now. Lust is wrong. end of story.


RealFfingMusic2014-03-03 07:33:29
Give it a rest Mac!!! You sound like a 70-year old medieval priest!

"If people want to show off their bodies, are perfectly fine with doing that, don't find it embarrassing or shameful, then you have no right to tell them not to. Nobody is being forced to watch it, nobody is being forced to strip, and nobody is being forced to do anything against their will" - Well said Ed.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-03 10:02:34
Lust is not WRONG, it is one of the most fundamental and natural functions of the human body. What's wrong is suppressing it in the unnatural fashion that you're suggesting. Rape and assault are usually the result of sexual repression, not expression. You're part of the problem


Lambegue2014-03-03 11:48:33
MacArthur, and what if someone that you consider as having a legitimate moral authority says one day that Zimmer's music is immoral, because it stimulates violent instincts ? I agree that it would be absolutely stupid, but no more than saying that nude stimulates rape. You say you have stats about what you say : even if it is true that sexual violence is more intense nowadays that fifty years ago (and I really doubt it, I rather agree with what Edmund said about a lack of documentation on the subject in the past), what proves you that there is really a link ? To make a comparison, is "The Dark Knight Rises" an immoral movie because of the Aurora killing ? (sorry if this last example offends some of you, I was searching for a striking image...)

" And with that logic why shouldn't I or someone else if we feel like it just walk the streets nude. I feel like and there is nothing wrong with it."
Because there is a difference between art (or entertainment) and reality. That's also why animals don't talk like in "The Lion King", you know.

And one more thing : if you feel excited, or encouraged to lust by watching the naked bodies of "Shindler's list", there's something very wrong. And not with the movie...


isildur2014-03-03 11:55:51
As much as I agree with you Edmund on the issue, in most cases rape is nothing about sexual repression. For most of the rapists it is like ultimate form of domination and enforcing their superiority.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-03 13:06:59
That's true. I guess I should have said it's MORE due to repression than expression. My point stands, though.


MacArthur2014-03-03 16:03:32
I never said their was anything wrong with Schindler's list I said was it necessary. There is a reason films are rated R, and they are not open for everyone.


With your logic it should be ok for our kids to go watch "american pie" There's Nudity in that. "It's there job to pose nude". "They might be celebrating the human body". Ok There's nothing wrong with that. right there just doing there jobs celebrating the human body through a comedy. Lets everyone watch it cause there is nothing wrong with that.


trent easton navarro2014-03-03 18:35:43
actually, there is indeed nothing wrong with American Pie. The nudity in that one isn't shocking or anything. Your uptight additude is probably more damaging than a seeing a pair of breasts in a teen comedy. Placing such a taboo on nudity and/or sex isn't healthy. Most girls (and to a lesser extent boys) that end up in a seedy stripclub or cheap porn flick, probably had such an upbringing


MacArthur2014-03-03 21:53:00
It's still wrong. To me. And A lot of other people.

I'm done commenting on this now.


Spence2014-03-03 21:58:56
After the whole battle featured above, I'm 99.5765321% sure is very serious about everything he says and is not, as the kids are calling it, "a troll."

Pity.


Spence2014-03-03 22:00:19
whoops, typo.
"... sure *MacArthur* is very serious..."


trent easton navarro2014-03-03 22:03:05
Now here's hoping Zimmer ends up scoring 50 Shades of Grey ;)


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-03 22:06:15
Trent, actually, last I heard, Danny Elfman is slated to score that. Should be...interesting... :p


trent easton navarro2014-03-03 22:23:10
Ha, really? Well, at least one reason to look forward to that film :p
If it's on par with Goldsmith's Basic Instinct and Doyle's Killing me Softly I won't complain


Lambegue2014-03-03 22:35:21
Actually Zimmer has already with Stanley Myers scored "Histoire d'O ch‚pitre 2", a french erotic movie.


MacArthur2014-03-04 15:35:43
He only did one song. film scoring is different than my point. (And don't comment on the Film thing again I'm done with it.)


RealFfingMusic2014-03-06 13:55:01
MacArthur, you created one of the biggest threads in HZ.com . . . by talking about portrayal of nudity.

No Comment;)


RealFfingMusic2014-03-06 14:00:30
Nothing sexual was shown directly in 12 Years or Schindler's List, but those shots were necessary to express the film.

But as Edmund said above, no one's forcing you to watch anything. You just have a distorted view of women.


RealFfingMusic2014-03-06 14:01:30
distorted view of looking at womankind.

Sorry.


MacArthur2014-03-06 16:29:02
Are you sure it's me and not you...I don't treat them as pieces of meat.


RealFfingMusic2014-03-07 08:04:21
No one is treating anybody as "pieces of meat". Please don't bend what I said.

What I meant was that the human body is not something to be ashamed of. Both men and women.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-07 11:02:35
What's more disrespectful to the human body? Showing it off, or treating it like something disgusting and hiding it and making people feel ashamed of themselves?


MacArthur2014-03-07 16:41:15
I never said their was nothing wrong with the human body. But there is a lack of self esteem, and it indicates a form of self-centeredness. To show off naked. They are trying to get attention. I'm saying if you are that self centered. or need that attention in that way...I'd rather not.

Now to music.


RealFfingMusic2014-03-07 17:42:45
RealFfingMusic 2014-03-07 17:39:56
"They" get special attention only from people like you, who are ashamed of their own bodies.

And it's not their self-esteem that's wrong, it's your perspective.

BTW, can you kindly explain how is this self-centered?

Please don't get pissed about the 400-thing :)

Totally Chill Guy reply Replies: 2 || 2014-03-01 07:09:35
Think I made a wrong turn somewhere and ended up on the Youtube comment section.


Areozz2014-03-01 14:51:28
Nope. You've just entered 'The MacArthur Zone'!


RealFfingMusic2014-03-02 06:25:03
Heh heh!

You start talking about naked women, and BOOM! Replies never stop.

Grow up, boys!!!

Ds reply Replies: 2 || 2014-02-24 22:46:41
Lol, we know there's something really wrong when we see a new Pharell Williams album here on H-Z.com :D


Hybrid Soldier2014-02-24 22:49:07
Go to HZ's early 1980s album participation to find even scarier things ! ;)


Lambegue2014-02-25 09:42:00
Polnareff's "Bulles" will always live in my nightmares...
I'm not a huge fan of Pharrel Williams myself. Hybrid Soldier, is Zimmer work on this album a way to thank Pharrel Williams for Spiderman ?

DaPk reply Replies: 0 || 2014-02-25 02:31:37
So Hans found a new buddy, huh?

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