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Bayhem - why are you so worked up about him working or not working on the film ?the fact he did seems to annoy youLorne Balfe didnt work at this score!!!!<br>========================<br><br><br>Correct.Oh if you liked this one, you should see the one way below with Bayhem, Meta and Macejko going at it like crazy<br><br>Pretty sure saying this will make another situation like that.I like how this debate about Lorne Balfe started from me politely asking for artist credits. This is a cool place.Lorne Balfe didnt work at this score!!!!
Exactly Solomon !<br>THe use of the krypton theme in the spaceship scene made this moment more intense and it felt... natural... as if the rest of the music doesnt blend in the atmosphere we were used to with the previous movies.@scarecrow9: Wikipedia says that filming originally wrapped in October 2016, and that Zack was taken off the project in May 2017. That's at least 6 months of post-production, so hopefully yes.<br>@Leonard Dante: You don't think it's disrespect to Snyder that the film bears his name but Whedon cut it up and redid his story with terrible reshoots and replaced his nominated composer?<br><br>Lastly, I will say that I watched the film earlier today and thought it was absolutely terrible. The best part was the few seconds where Zimmer's "Krypton" theme was playing in the scoutship!Hybrid, do you think that the Snyder´s Cut could really exist somewhere? Let alone with Tom´s score, do you think that he even began scoring the film? I would love to see that version. Thank you for your answerBalfe is one of the few that hasn’t got additional writers<br>=================================<br><br><br>Even composers who do one or two movies a year receive help. So it's very, very hard for me to believe that Balfe - with the amount of movies he works on now - is out there by himself, scoring it all by himself. It's simply not possible. And this is the MV/RC world after all. Composers help each other all the time. And many of these collaborations don't even make it to this site. It's very hard to keep track of everything.imo whedon and elfman screwed up the movie, i'd say Zacks original cut would be better, then again thats just me tho
Perhaps. But it would be a disrespect to Whedon and Elfman. Okay. If that means more money on the table, they will.HOPE NEVER DIES.<br><br>Sources confirm this days on social media that Zack Snyder Original Cut of Justice League not only exists, but have VFX's work and Junkie XL's score on it.<br><br>That could be really EPIC.<br><br>The Fight for this can happens is bigger every minute passes, dont lose the faith, not now.Cannot freaking wait!"Balfe is one of the few that hasn’t got additional writers"<br><br>As if. Just look through this site and you'll see additional guys credited for lots of his scores. Max Aruj, Steffen Thum, Thomas Farnon, Andrew Kawczynski on some projects...he's a very busy guy but I promise you he doesn't do every single second of his 15 scores a year on his own.Bayhem - Balfe is one of the few that hasn’t got additional writers though.which films has this small army of ghostwriters ???!!!!!!
You say Balfe worked on the last Transformers(2017). Okay. He may have been called by the Paramount. However, his involvement with the franchise in 2005 and in the following years happened because of the RCP and Zimmer's direct involvement in the project. There in 2005, 2007, 2011, 2014 he was a guest of RCP/MV and no received no call for help of the Paramount. There is no other way.he worked on the first transformers . And did a lot. Why not ask him on twitter .<br>.....................................<br><br><br>I've asked him a lot of stuff. We're Facebook friends. And yes, I know he worked on the first one. I clearly said it a couple of times in my replies here. He worked on the first one and the second one as well. But if you try to imply that Balfe deserves the credit for these scores, you are way, way off the mark. And it's very disrespectful to Jablonsky. Very.<br><br>Now, clearly you like Balfe a lot. Fine. But please don't undermine a far more experienced and successful composer like Jablonsky, just because Balfe is the "hot MV/RC composer" at the moment. We, the Jablonsky fans, certainly didn't act that way in 2007 when Jablonsky's name was everywhere and people were going crazy for the Transformers score. No one denies that Balfe worked hard on the Transformers films. But he's not the "main guy". Just like a lot of MV/RC composers have worked on HIS scores and they're not the main composers. You think Balfe scores all of his movies alone? Nope. Like any other successful and busy composer out there, he's supported by a small army of ghostwriters.Studio = Paramount and he worked on the first transformers . And did a lot. Why not ask him on twitter . I did !!!!!!Balfe never worked for Jablonsky =========================================<br><br>By "worked for Jablonsky" I meant he worked ON Jablonsky scores. And as James said, it's all MV/RC anyway. They all know each other and help each other. The first Transformers movie started post-production at the end of 2006. Back then no one knew who Balfe was (aside from the biggest MV/RC fans). His big break arguably came in 2009-2010. Years after the first Transformers movie. So no matter how we spin it, he still came after Jablonsky. Jablonsky is his senior and obviously has much more experience. And we have to respect that. <br><br>That was my point.Should have gotten one for Interstellar, not this.
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  1. Tris (Feat. Ellie Goulding) (7:48)
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  2. The Test (3:17)
    Junkie XL, Christian Vorlander
  3. Choosing Dauntless (Feat. Ellie Goulding) (3:44)
    Junkie XL, Christian Vorlander
  4. Capture The Flag (Feat. Ellie Goulding) (3:06)
    Junkie XL, Christian Vorlander
  5. This Isn't Real (1:38)
    Junkie XL, Christian Vorlander
  6. Ferris Wheel (3:31)
    Junkie XL, Christian Vorlander
  7. Erudite Plan (3:20)
    Junkie XL, Christian Vorlander
  8. Fear (3:36)
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  9. I Am Divergent (1:38)
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  10. A Friend (2:47)
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  11. Conspiracy (5:26)
    Junkie XL, Christian Vorlander
  12. Watertank (1:50)
    Junkie XL, Christian Vorlander
  13. Faction Before Blood (6:48)
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  14. Human Nature (3:12)
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  15. Final Test (1:37)
    Junkie XL, Christian Vorlander
  16. The March (5:17)
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  17. Dauntless Attack (5:55)
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  18. Sacrifice (Feat. Ellie Goulding) (4:20)
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  19. You're Not Gonna Like This (14:00) (Digital Bonus Track)
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  20. Fight The Dauntless (4:13)
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  21. Everywhere And Nowhere (2:28)
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Hal reply Replies: 5 || 2015-10-10 15:36:23
Hybrid, do you think there's any chance that Tom will return to do the last 2 movies in this trilogy? The second score was horrendous and I think it would work if Tom came back and brought his old themes with him.


Hybrid Soldier2015-10-10 16:18:42
No, I don't think so. His score was terribly butchered in the first and not so much was used in the final cut. Not sure he wants to return to that.

And he has much more interesting to do.


David2015-10-10 17:24:38
True dat. Like Deadpool!!


Hal2015-10-10 18:16:18
Yea but Diverent was such a damn good score. Would be great to see development of themes and of course new ones!


Ds2015-10-10 21:28:07
That butchering was really a shame. I remember watching the movie after having listened to the score a few times, I could not believe my ears. Fortunately Tom released a nice album with many great cues, so that we can forget the film and keep only tj music :-p


...2015-10-12 18:36:59
Yes it was a shame, but the album was awesome and considering the fact that Tom is a big guy now (not literally) they probably wouldn't butcher the sequel score if he were to do it.


... reply Replies: 3 || 2015-09-23 06:57:31
Hybrid, do you know the chronological order of this? and maybe how it can be mixed with the expanded score that surfaced some time ago.

A lot of cues were replaced I think...


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-23 09:37:57
I need to make a proper thing for this one...


...2015-09-23 09:55:21
That's be great! I think it's Tom's best score to date!


Hal2015-09-23 22:22:57
This was one of the best scores of last year.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 4 || 2015-03-18 16:29:21
Wow. Listening to Joseph Trapanese's score for Insurgent and talk about dropping the ball. None of Junkie's themes are used and most of the music is just atmospheric crap.
The new theme is halfway decent though, but kind of generic.


...2015-03-21 23:13:41
I totally agree! Listened to the OST and was like, where's the music? It's such a dull score and it lacks emotions, good action material and a good theme, such as Tom created for the first movie.

I wonder if it was due to scheduling issues that Tom didn't end up doing it or if it was the new director. Anyway I hope he will score the last 2 movies because anyone must have noticed that Joseph's work didn't work at all.


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-21 23:33:18
The first film was a "difficult" experience apparently for everyone, I never expected Junkie to come back...

And... Yeah, that second opus lacked pretty much everything while the first score had like 3 or 4 main themes...


RebelRising2015-03-22 02:18:59
Which is especially a shame because out of all the scores Tom has composed, this is the only one that I really like as a whole.

300 had, like, 3 tracks I would listen to more than once, whereas Divergent's soundtrack is a legitimately fun piece of work.

Hopefully Mad Max knocks it out of the park.


mpolonest123 2015-03-22 04:07:01
Considering how badly Tom's score was butchered in the first film, I really am not all that surprised he didn't want to return.

And as far as his scores go, Run All Night isn't half bad actually. The thematic part at least. ;)

XL JUNKIE FAN reply Replies: 3 || 2015-03-01 00:23:00
01 - 1M1 Opening (04:02)
02 - 1M3 Lining Up for the Test (01:43)
03 - 1M4 Simulation (08:03)
04 - 2M8A Jumping From The Train (02:14)
05 - 2M8B Jumping Into Net (03:35)
06 - 3M16 Training Begins (04:09)
07 - 3M17 Tris Sees Tori (01:48)
08 - 3M24 Grab The Rail (02:27)
09 - 3M25A The Wall (01:15)
10 - 3M26 Knife Throwing (02:33)
11 - 3M27 Jeanine at Dauntless (02:42)
12 - 4M28 - Tris vs Peter (01:39)
13 - 4M29 Runs for Train (01:49)
14 - 4M30 Weapon of Choice (01:59)
15 - 4M31 Climbing The Ferris Wheel (02:40)
16 - 4M32 Capture The Flag (02:46)
17 - 4M37 Mom Visits Tris (03:27)
18 - 4M38 Simulation/Crow Attack (01:49)
19 - 4M39 After Dreamscape (01:35)
20 - 5M42 Simulation/Trapped Water (02:10)
21 - 5M44 Faction Before Blood (02:54)
22 - 5M49 Tris Attacked/Four Saves Tris (01:28)
23 - 5M50 Kicking It At Four's Pad (01:25)
24 - 5M53 Erudite Overthrow Abnegation? (03:38)
25 - 5M56A Simulation of Four's Fears Pt.1 (02:48)
26 - 5M56B Simulation of Four's Fears Pt.2 (02:02)
27 - 6M63 Zombies (10:06)
28 - 6M64A Mom Saves Tris (03:31)
29 - 7M65A Breaking Into Dauntless/Final Battle (14:20)

Duration: 01:36:51


Russel2015-03-01 00:46:26
It is from a licensing site. I don't know if it would be a good idea to leak it, would it?


...2015-03-01 12:46:49
This version is missing tracks that can be found on the OST.


mpolonest1232015-03-01 15:11:56
I think this is technically the "film version" which butchered a lot of the OST material. I wonder if it is complete though?

... reply Replies: 1 || 2014-08-28 20:07:11
Apparently a different composer with score the sequel...I hoped he'd return and get his own trilogy


Felix 2014-09-06 20:32:28
Yes! I hope so he got this trilogy, it's would be very cool

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2014-06-08 16:30:09
Little "who did what" here... :)


Edmund Meinerts2014-06-08 16:33:09
Thanks! But where's Dave Fleming?


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-08 18:50:41
Who knows... In what's not on the OST probably... lol

... reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-08 20:17:31
Hybrid, I have a question.
What did Hans do on this score?
What does the exclusive music producer do?

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2014-04-02 08:00:16
This is beautiful music...

Ds reply Replies: 2 || 2014-03-29 01:06:26
I just saw the movie and have one word: HORRIBLE. The great music composed by Junkie XL has been completely butchered, the best tracks aren't featured at all, or have been replaced by songs or bland alternate versions. For example, the cool vocal parts of "Choosing Dauntless" or "Capture the Flag" are not even in the movie, and the great "Fight the Dauntless" plays only for 20 seconds.

Worst of all, the score plays extremely low and far in the background, which makes it inaudible from start to finish, even when there's no dialogue or action. The sense of rythm and excitement present in the album release is totally absent from the movie.

It is incredible how music with such a great potential and so much intensity, can be toned down and become next-to-nothing in a movie. I wonder who was in charge of cutting Junkie XL's tracks to picture. If he did it himself then I really don't understand.


Rcp2014-03-29 05:34:32
I think perhaps whoever was in charge of the music decided to replace some scenes with whatever pop music that ended up replacing it. Cause there are cues on the album not in the film, so it may have been a later thing after it was scored to change things up a bit - but hey, at least we got all the music unlike some other releases *cough*man of steel*cough*


RealFfingMusic2014-03-29 11:33:13
In that case, not gonna see the movie.

BTW, I still don't have a film version for MOS Flight. :(

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-23 19:47:13
Some tracks are awesomely awesome. I love them so much that I'm going to see the movie when it opens!

Drunkenmunkey reply Replies: 1 || 2014-03-22 05:39:02
I like this score better than CAP 2. There I said it!


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-22 10:44:45
Is that such a surprise? I think most people do. Me too, by a long shot.

Micah reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-18 17:44:18
After listening to the score over and over this weekend, I've come to the conclusion that Fighting Dauntless is one of my favorite musical pieces from the last few years. The mixture of the epic and personal is great.

Micah reply Replies: 1 || 2014-03-17 19:46:45
This is a pretty good score. Tris, Final Test and You're Not Gonna Like This are by far the best.

Tris' theme is beautiful. I hope XL Junkie returns to score the next movie. I hear a lot of potential building blocks for future scores.


Macejko2014-03-17 20:02:29
The second installment will by directed by Robert Schwentke who usually works with Christophe Beck, so Junkie's return is IMHO unlikely. Which is a damn shame, because the score is indeed very good.

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2014-03-17 02:49:12
Ok, first, great score.

Has threads of other stuff all over the place.....Girl Rising, MOS, some stuff by HGW, the piano in Tris reminds me of JNH's The Happening.

OMG. Has anyone noticed the stark similarities of Track #16 The March to the Opening Cue from Vangelis' score to The Bounty? Wow.

Really enjoying it, nonetheless!


ei182014-03-17 03:52:47
Where did you hear the full score? Thanks!


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-17 10:03:07
Yeah, "The March" really took me by surprise. Wasn't expecting to hear something so retro-sounding and, as you say, Vangelis-like.


Héctor2014-03-17 18:22:51
Better performance than the others. Similar to the structure of Bleeding Fingers....And survivor. But is better than the other stuff. More Whisky for Junkie.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 1 || 2014-03-15 01:18:57
I'll just echo what others are saying and say that this score is really not bad at all. Much better than I expected after the terrible 300 score.

It's the softer thematic parts that really shine, like the opening cue. The action music still relies too heavily on uninventive hammering MoS percussion for my taste, though (the 14-minute track just goes on and on and on and on and on...). But...okay. I'm gonna have to give Junkie XL the benefit of the doubt from now on.


Mortifer V.2014-03-17 03:56:30
well, the title of the 14min track warned you man ;P

ei18 reply Replies: 5 || 2014-03-14 22:39:27
Tris sounds super similar to another song and I can't figure it out for the life of me. Anyone feel the same way and wanna help me out?


MacArthur2014-03-14 23:17:19
Yeah...Lone Survivor.


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-14 23:37:53
And was written a long time before Lone Survivor... lol


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-15 00:15:29
It's the four chords of pop...there are literally a zillion songs and cues that use them. Most recent famous example is (Oscar winning?!) Let it Go from Frozen... :p


MacArthur2014-03-15 00:30:47
Really it was written before. cause Lone survivor Came out in some countries early last year.


ei182014-03-15 16:05:57
yea Lone Survivor is similar but its not what i was thinking of. It Elie Goulding's singing that sounds really similar to something else.

rob reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-14 01:56:08
Where are you guys listening to the full score if it is not released yet? I've been wanted to listen to this one

Leo reply Replies: 8 || 2014-03-13 03:58:58
I can't stop listening to those cues Hybrid mentioned earlier, I even get the chills, dammit! :D


Leo2014-03-13 08:19:32
Especially "Capturing the Flag", holy shit.


0-cool2014-03-13 11:49:54
T thought it comes out the 18th


Bioscope2014-03-13 16:04:11
One word. Awesome....


MacArthur2014-03-13 16:52:15
It may help to have Hans as score producer.

And what's with Lone Survivor. in Tris.


RealFfingMusic2014-03-13 23:31:32
This might be Junkie's best till date. And I haven't even listened to the full score yet. :D


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-13 23:50:05
The best out of what, three scores? That's not such a super superlative... :p


Ds2014-03-13 23:54:04
I think it's a good score. The main theme is very catchy and it blends nicely different genres together, i love it very much. But for the moment I didn't notice anything particularly outstanding, apart from this main theme.

But i guess it'll grow on me in the next few days!

Tracks 1, 3, 4 are (for now) my favorites.


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-14 00:02:44
The Main Theme, let's talk about that : Listen to Balfe's Girl Rising track I put on the player... lol


There's some weird, I don't know, similarity... haha

Z1 reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-13 21:35:24
Junkie Xl's Score every awesome, but this is the best from him, i love it!

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-13 07:30:18
Very, very good score and the cues Hybrid mentioned are truly the best (especially "Choosing Dauntless", I simply love that one). It's really imaginative in its use of percs and Goulding's vocals, and although the MoS influence is still felt here and there, the score certainly shows that Junkie is more than able to bring his own musical identity to the game.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-13 04:22:53
Excellent job!

Drunkenmunkey reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-12 18:50:02
Listened to it twice. Loved it. Now I really don't know wtf went wrong with 300. It's probs because Zimmer (I think)didn't help much with it. The MOS percussion, Lone Survivor acoustics, and with Ellie Goulding's voice and Junkie XL's electronica blend surprisingly well. I can't wait to see the movie and I am sure it will fit great (guy's it is a perfect date movie!). Here's to hoping it fairs well critically! 3.5/5 for me. Screw 300 lol.

thejok3rrules reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-12 05:25:56
It's already better than 300, but it's nothing great either... It's basic... It fits the film, perhaps.

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-10 21:15:45
Still no samples? It's weird.

Btw, i had just zero expectations for that movie and score, but what Hybrid wrote two days ago made me completely impatient!!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 11 || 2014-03-09 00:33:43
89 minutes?? I'm assuming this is a digital only release then, or how the heck do they plan on putting that on a CD?

Interesting that this already has a "HZimmer.com rating". Who exactly decides those? :p


theeaglesfan0052014-03-09 02:27:20
It does say "Label: Lionsgate Records (Digital Download Only)"


Aytekin2014-03-09 02:59:46
Cannot wait for this.. :)


Ds2014-03-09 03:08:13
Agree with Edmund, very interesting release!


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-09 08:21:38
Because I've already listened to it...

It's not exactly like 300... Yeah it has some "usual" Junkie MOS percs, but it's more like a mix between the lighter action parts of MOS with Craig Armstrong's In Time...

I have 5/6 tracks on constant repeat (Tris, Choosing Dauntless, Capture The Flag, Conspiracy, Final Test (it's gonna remind people of some MOS unreleased track... lol) & Fight The Dauntlesss).

Can't put anything on the player just yet though...


Ds2014-03-09 09:21:23
Okay, now i'm excited. I loved every bit of MoS. I loved 300 by Junkie XL. I loved In Time by Craig Armstrong. This seems like a perfect deal for me :-)


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-09 10:25:05
I love them too Ds it'll be right up your alley ! :)


MacArthur2014-03-09 17:15:07
Why, Does every one want Junkie XL. He is not that good.

I mean he's ok but why not The Maestro himself. or Jablonsky or....Or even...Balfe. :)


0-cool2014-03-09 18:49:42
he is better than most Zimmer collaborators.
Check out Darkspore, which is one of the best electronic/ambient score I've heard.
Then his symphony for an event in Utrecht. Can't imagine Jablonsky,Balfe,Djawadi etc pull that off


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-09 22:06:25
Yeah, why more people aren't hiring The Maestro is beyond me...I mean, we all know John Williams is probably the greatest film composer of all time.


trent easton navarro2014-03-09 22:17:21
I don't think that's The Maestro MacArthur meant. Would be impossible to hire him though, Jerry Goldsmith passed away almost ten years ago


MacArthur2014-03-10 05:57:46
O-cool had it correct.

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-09 23:26:13
Oh come on now, we clearly all know MacArthur was talking about Ennio Morricone ;)

Drunkenmunkey reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-09 19:40:08
What day does this release? and is it going on iTunes?

Thanks Hybrid :D

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-08 23:12:12
Holy sh*t!, a 14 minutes track!! in a Junkie XL score?, that problaby is gonna to be awesome

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