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Thats not as annoying a difference as the choral elements for Electro's Death being so muted in the sessions.Everan, this doesn't make any sense, actually, "I'm Electro" is the film version of "Itsy Bitsy Spider Theme", if you watch the scene in the movie again, you will notice that the film version has the little fragment at the 0:13 seconds mark of "I'm Electro", while the unreleased "Itsy Bitsy Spider" listed here doesn't have it, better saying, "I'm Electro" is actually the true film version of "Itsy Bitsy Spider", while the version we know is just a Alternate.You can find it easily on Youtube today, by the way, I can't find the alternate of Electro Showdown Part 1.mpolonest123, actually "unused source" is listed here, it's just with a different name "Farewell", I guess it was meant to be used between "Sins of The Fathers" and "Max Electrocuted", also, you've mentioned a film version of Norman's death song (Which is "Sins of The Fathers"), and If I'm not wrong, that track has just one version...Anonymous, I think he's referring to the film version of "Spidey Logo", the one in the official album release
DT-2017, The film version of "Harry's Transformation" mixes "Sum Total" with the part between 2:04 and 2:58 from "Special Projects", but with less instruments and a additional electric guitar. I actually like both versions, if you hear the film version, it actually sounds like it was just edited in last hour to fit in the scene, while the version in the album, I'm almost sure it was meant to be used in the full scene, you know, the uncut scene, with the parts as Harry's teeth growing, his column being fused (or whatever is that thing), he looking at the screen, and more...but then they deleted the fragments, and for Zimmer the last hour plan was just throw the intense part of "Special Projects" into the song, and for me, that worked well, I would like to hear the Intense parts of the two alternates of "Harry's Transformation" isolated.There’s a 3-minute clip of the truck chase on YouTube and I have to say the score sounds pretty cool. A lot of string/percussion work with an awesome electronic motif for the new “Terminator” model. Also, Brad Fiedel’s theme is back. ;)Hmmm, where do you have found the alternate of Electro Showdown Part 1? And what is the track "Farewell"? It is meant to be related to the Norman osborn scene? More likely "Sins of the Fathers" track?, I think not, because the track in that scene is 3 minutes long, while this "Farewell" is just 1 minute long<br>Also, you missed some tracks: Film Version of "Electro Showdown Part 2", Film Version of "Itsy Bitsy Spider" (which is actually the original version of the Album mix, yeah that one which was cut and renamed to "I'm Electro), an Alternate of "Truck Chase", and "Sins of the Fathers" which I mentioned before.<br>There's also two more alternates of "Flying Montage", one which is just 40 seconds long, and the film version, which doesn't have anything to do with the original version and the two alternates listed here.<br>And yeah, we can't forget about the second alternate of "I'm Spiderman" which is the film version of the track, and it was actually released in the album mix!Isn't his problem when people like Bruckheimer wanted a specific sound and give no freedom in his movies.<br><br>He works for what is given.I think Lorne already has enough noise behind her, for my liking I should start to give way to quality instead of quantity.
ASCAP shows that "Farewell To Lilliput" is credited to Jackman/Willis. Is it correct or there is only Jackman? Just thought may be there is a typo on the site.Any news on the soundtrack for Jack Ryan season 2?I was hoping for Ramin Djawadi to compose The Eternals, well Joseph Trapanese is a good composer so its good news.John powell is flying lowkey now which sucks, His X3 score is just jaw dropping. The Eternals would be perfect for him cause he'd make it epic but Joseph Trapanese is scoring that Surprised Jablonsky hasn't tackled DC or Marvel yet eitherDamn i miss Klaus, he needs a damn come back. Stupid talented
push...<br><br>please add them...I’ve talked to Lorne (we follow each other on Instagram), he says he’s very open to doing a superhero movie.<br><br>Plus, Henry Jackman tackling Black Widow isn’t a surprise, but it’s pleasant news indeed. He’s scored for her during Winter Soldier, so I hope we get an expansion of whatever thematic material there was for her in the Captain America films.<br><br>P.S, it’s long overdue for Powell to score another superhero movie. X3: The Last Stand is a solid score and I’d like to hear his ideas for a MARVEL or DC film.He has only had two films get released though this year ?What has IMDB got to do with it ?I mean 7 films and 2 tv shows from his IMDB with upcoming projects.@James Lorne did 7 films this year and last project will be 6 Underground in December 2019. Also, He has 9 projects with 6 films and 2 tv shows, I checked out from his IMDB with upcoming projects.
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The Peacemaker (Limited)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 152'13
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CD1
  1. Voice Of God - Vassily's Dilemma (6:49)
  2. Hijack (7:46)
  3. It Wasn't An Accident - Exporting Good Will - Smoke Screen (3:55)
  4. Bombs On The Move - Alexsander Kodoroff - Kodoroff's Alive (5:11)
  5. Good Guys - Bad Guys - Dusan's Village (1:51)
  6. Keep On Truckin' - Head Of Transportation - Hasselhoff - Escape (4:38)
  7. Car Chase (5:51)
  8. Forty-Four E - Dusan's Confession (3:24)
  9. Truck Convoy - License Plate (2:46)
  10. Nocturne In C# Minor (1:15) (Frederic Chopin)
  11. Get Me Authorized (feat. Mamak Khadem) (2:38)
  12. Checkpoint - Helicopter Chase (12:11)
  13. One Unaccounted For - Dusan Gets Bomb - Dusan's speech (5:06)
  14. He's Going To New York - F.B.I. N.Y. - Swiss Flight #1204 (4:37)
  15. Dusan's Flashback (6:18)
CD2
  1. Dusan With Bomb - Dusan In Church (11:18)
  2. Dusan Kills Himself (3:28)
  3. Dr. Kelly Is O.K. - Dr. Kelly Got 10 More (3:28)
    BONUS TRACKS
  4. Trains (Original Album Version) (13:54)
  5. Devoe's Revenge (Original Album Version) (5:16)
  6. Sarajevo (Original Album Version) (8:43)
  7. Chase (Original Album Version) (17:06)
  8. Peacemaker (Original Album Version) (9:45)
  9. Get Me Authorized (Alternate Vocals feat. Lisbeth Scott) (2:42)
  10. The Peacemaker Trailer Music (2:18)
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SPECTER reply Replies: 3 || 2018-05-09 05:18:57
Hi guys, is the climax of album version "Peacemaker" with Lisbeth Scott and the male choir featured in the movie somewhere? Saw the film today and didn't hear that awesome singing.

Mike (OTM)2018-05-09 05:51:45
I haven't seen the movie, but "Peacemaker" is a suite. So if you didn't hear it, it's probably not in there. Classic situation with Hans. lol.

SPECTER2018-05-09 23:32:27
kept my ears open the whole time didn't hear it the film. The part in referring to is 8:20 of album version "Peacemaker". Another piece that is in the album but not in the movie is 14:10 of "Chase". It's funny to me because usually some really good film cues are left out of the album but it's the opposite in this case.

Mr Tweedy2018-05-10 10:20:48
As Mike (OTM) mentioned, the track Peacemaker is a theme suite, and isn't used at all in the movie.

As for the "Chase" cue, in my memories it's used in its entirety in the film (but as it is a medley of different tracks, it's popping in several sequences of the film : Helicopter Chase, New York, End Credits). I'm not 100% sure, but I guess the part at 14:10 was used during the NY Chase.

MrFix reply Replies: 10 || 2014-05-31 00:44:44
Wow, the sound on this is hurtful to my ears. the highs and mids are crazily painful and hardly anything at the bottom. very disappointed with LLL

trent easton navarro2014-06-01 13:13:24
Haven't listened to this one with headphones yet but at first listen I don't hear anything wrong with it. But I must admit I'm not a major audiophile, so what do I know.

Hybrid Soldier2014-06-01 13:36:54
Well they didn't kick anyone's ass with the mastering...


The 1997 OST was a lot more violent (and suitable for this kind of score)... They played it weak here (they even made the 1997 OST selection softer here)...

Cloud2014-06-01 19:21:12
The only thing I don't like about this is that some parts are way more silent than I'd like them to be. I find myself adjusting the volume constantly while listening to this.

Hybrid Soldier2014-06-01 19:34:15
Which is exactly the definition of a not great mastering... lol

Edmund Meinerts2014-06-01 22:33:00
I haven't listened to the new release yet but is the sound still better than the boot?

Anonymous2014-06-02 04:22:41
Actually, dynamic range is a good thing, Hybrid.

RealFfingMusic2014-06-02 07:22:36
Dynamic range is definitely a good thing, but only when it enhances the music. But this one has such a high dynamic range that one has to keep a finger on volume control, or risk missing out certain portions. That, m'friend, is BAD remastering.

P.S. I've listened to only 4-5 tracks and I already HATE it.

Hybrid Soldier2014-06-02 07:59:10
It's a good thing for an orchestral score like Kingdom of Heaven...

For Peacemaker, not so much...

MrFix2014-06-02 11:40:39
@hybrid
Exactly!! For the peacemaker, because it's mainly synthetic (not to sure if it is completely) it's like volume was intentionally dropped and peaked during post recording to try and give more of a dynamic sound for on screen purposes. I've noticed a few scores like that too from zimmer, crimson tide for one comes into mind.

Soundtracks942017-09-20 19:32:29
I own the CD and I agree there are times in the score where it's so bombastic it distorts your speakers.

Still, I felt this was a great score from Zimmer. It was peak Russian sounding chorus time for Hans and the action cues were better than other scores of this time like The Rock.

Mike reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-08 22:14:36
I feel like John Powell's name for "Additional Music" is new here...Have I just been missing it, or has new info come to light?

Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 22:48:41
Yeah, I never noticed that either. Didn't think HGW was involved with this either outside of the trailer music (or is that all that is meant by "additional music" here?).

We all know Greenaway worked extensively on this and he did Face/Off with Powell the same year, so who knows...

Hybrid Soldier2015-03-08 23:15:01
I found that. Hans couldn't confirm nor deny, he doesn't remember... lol

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2014-08-22 19:30:39
who arranged the trailer track?

Hybrid Soldier2014-08-22 20:14:19
Click "See details..."

Anonymous2014-08-22 23:14:36
thanks

Anonymous reply Replies: 15 || 2014-05-16 15:13:04
anyone got a tracklist? :P

trent easton navarro2014-05-16 16:41:29
not yet, guess we'll have to wait till tuesday

Poe2014-05-20 05:52:06
DISC 1
1. Voice of God / Vassily’s Dilemma 6:49
2. Hijack 7:46
3. It Wasn’t an Accident / Exporting Good Will / Smoke Screen 3:55
4. Bombs on the Move / Alexsander Kodoroff / Kodoroff’s Alive 5:11
5. Good Guys / Bad Guys / Dusan’s Village 1:51
6. Keep On Truckin’ / Head of Transportation / Hasselhoff / Escape 4:38
7. Car Chase 5:51
8. Forty-Four E / Dusan’s Confession 3:24
9. Truck Convoy / License Plate 2:46
10. Nocturne in C# Minor 1:15 (Frederic Chopin)
11. Get Me Authorized (feat. Mamak Khadem) 2:38
12. Checkpoint / Helicopter Chase 12:11
13. One Unaccounted For / Dusan Gets Bomb/ Dusan’s Speech 5:06
14. He’s Going to New York / F.B.I. N.Y. / Swiss Flight #1204 4:37
15. Dusan’s Flashback 6:18
TOTAL DISC TIME: 74:16

DISC 2
1. Dusan With Bomb / Dusan in Church 11:18
2. Dusan Kills Himself 3:28
3. Dr. Kelly Is O.K. / Dr. Kelly Got 10 More 3:28
BONUS TRACKS
4. Trains (original album version) 13:54
5. Devoe’s Revenge (original album version) 5:16
6. Sarajevo (original album version) 8:43
7. Chase (original album version) 17:06
8. Peacemaker (original album version) 9:45
9. Get Me Authorized (alternate vocals feat. Lisbeth Scott) 2:42
10. The Peacemaker Trailer Music 2:18

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-20 12:12:14
Oh La-La Land...I love you, but it seems like your trend of pointlessly combining separate cues into lengthier ones shows no sign of abating. :/

Aggelos2014-05-20 14:24:02
It's great to have all this material remastered, restored and dressed in an official package/disc.

However, I was wondering what happened to the unused cues of Peacemaker?
There is a rumour that some composers block(ed) various scores from receiving an official expanded release. Do you think that something like that happened in this case?
LaLaLand must have known that there was an unofficial release with unused cues.
I was expecting surprises from this (such as previously unreleased material etc), but so far I don't see anything big.
It looks more in the style of Broken Arrow and Speed 2. That is to say, on the one hand they were official expanded releases, but on the other hand there had been more material available (on promo releases, et al) that wasn't include for some reason.




Hybrid Soldier2014-05-20 15:52:57
What are you talking about ? The fake thing floating around for a decade ? lol

Aggelos2014-05-20 17:18:22
Ya dat thing.
Was it phoney??
In any case, where iz da previouzly unrealeazed material??

mark2014-05-20 19:08:38
hey there, just wanted to to clear this up, i remastered a few of the tracks from peacemaker just for fun, and added some extra sounds i created on my synthesizer, i named it the unused cues which is where those tracks came from, hope this helps

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-20 19:14:11
And people were naive enough to believe it, especially 10 years ago...

Poe2014-05-20 19:58:23
What fake thing are we referring to?

And yes, Edmund, my first thought was exactly the same.

Aggelos2014-05-20 22:00:13
Excellent! Not that we have clarified this up, I think we can go on with our lives. Cheers!!!

The thematic material that appears on the events that take place in Sarajevo somehow reminds me ideas by Ippolitov-Ivanov featured in his orchestral suite Caucasian Sketches.
Search on youtube for Ippolitov-Ivanov "In a Village" (the 2nd movement of the suite)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pqperR8R4g

Mr Tweedy2014-05-21 00:31:01
10 or 15 years ago, there was a "Peacemaker - unused cues" bootleg album floating around. I think they refer to this. And yes, it was a bunch of bootleg cues edited together with some synth and drums added on top of it. There was no "real" new music from Hans' studio at all.

LP2014-05-21 16:36:01
@Edmund Meinerts

More tracks = more money. So they end up compromising by way of combining the cues together. I hate this, because it's never sounded seamless, but I have to accept it because it's the only way these thing could be released legitimately

Poe2014-05-22 19:23:00
Number of tracks has nothing to do with it. More music=more money, if anything, but having split tracks wouldn't make it more expensive.

Aggelos2014-05-23 13:37:35
Regarding cues such as Dusan's Confession, Dusan's Village, Dusan's speech, the thematic material somehow bears an interesting resemblance to ideas by Mikhail Ippolitov-Ivanov featured in his orchestral suite Caucasian Sketches ("In a Village" the 2nd movement of the suite).
Am I the only one who has noticed this?



Aggelos2014-05-25 16:52:00
In addition, Trains (album version) or Hijack have moments that remind a little bit Sergei Prokofiev's "Tylbat's Death" from Romeo and Juliet.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 5 || 2014-05-22 22:23:28
I added all the booklet credits... :)

thejok3rrules2014-05-22 23:28:50
Did Zimmer actually wrote everything except ''Devoe's Revenge'' and the trailer music?

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 12:14:49
That's ironic considering "Devoe's Revenge" is the one cue we know is cowritten by Gavin Greenaway.

thejok3rrules2014-05-23 19:53:17
It's nothing ironic, mate... I checked the booklet, it said ''All Songs Written by Hans Zimmer Except
"Devoe's Revenge" Written by Gavin Greenaway
& "The Peacemaker Trailer Music" Written by Harry Gregson-Williams'', so I asked myself: Is it true? Whatever.

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 21:46:10
Oh, sorry! I somehow managed to read your comment the wrong way around. Silly me... :p

thejok3rrules2014-05-24 16:23:20
Don't worry, mate, it's not a problem ;)

marco reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-20 23:24:19
i hope the remastering on this isn't as harsh on the ears as broken arrow was

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 7 || 2014-05-04 15:09:05
The best of the best for Hans

Aggelos2014-05-04 19:00:47
This is going to be very interesting, nonetheless!
Hopefully, LaLaLand will release more stuff from the Media Ventures gang of the '90s before long.


trent easton navarro2014-05-04 20:13:16
LaLaLand has already released quite some quality stuff from the 90's (Mancina's Bad Boys, Money Train and Speed scores, Zimmer's Broken Arrow and Days of Thunder). But there are still a few I like so released (Fair Game, Assassins) or expanded (The Fan, The Rock)

Anonymous2014-05-05 18:52:11
Next up please, The Fan, The Fan, The Fan!!!

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-05 19:30:18
I'm really surprised how many, uh, fans The Fan has. I know that apparently the album isn't a good representative of the score, but still - I didn't think what's there is really much good. I'm much more excited about The Peacemaker (even though I've already heard it :p )

Lambegue2014-05-05 19:40:18
I'm really excited about this one too

trent easton navarro2014-05-05 22:42:34
Like I said in an other thread, for me The Fan is the perfect combination between Hans Zimmer and NIN. Considering you don't like Trent Reznor, I'm not surprised you don't really care for The Fan.

As for this one, can't wait to own it! One of my fave Zimmer scores and of his finest action scores.

Aggelos2014-05-13 21:24:27
From LLL's FB page
@"
REISSUE PRODUCED FOR LA-LA LAND RECORDS BY DAN GOLDWASSER
MASTERED BY DOUG SCHWARTZ AT MULHOLLAND MUSIC
LINER NOTES BY TIM GREIVING
ART DIRECTION BY DAN GOLDWASSER

At long last, La-La Land Records, UME and Paramount Pictures (in association with Dreamworks Pictures) present one of Hans Zimmer’s greatest action scores – THE PEACEMAKER. This 1997 crackerjack thriller features one of Mr. Zimmer’s most legendary, jaw-droppingly awesome scores. Jam packed with over 2 &#189; hours of music -- including original album edits, an alternate vocal featuring Lisbeth Scott and music exclusively written for the film’s trailer -- this 2 cd set features in depth liner notes by film music writer Tim Greiving and spectacular art direction by Dan Goldwasser. A must have purchase for any fan of high octane, memorable action music.
"@
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