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@Hybrid,<br>Speaking of klaus, do you know how the other rcp members feel about him? Do they still keep in touch or is he persona non grata?<br>I know that geoff zanelli is completely pissed (check his website, for all the projects he names his colleagues like steve jablonsky or else, and then for the klaus projects he just puts « the composer »), and you told that hans avoids him as much as he can ( which I can see when the pirates topic is brought during interviews post 2006...no mention of klaus)<br>Hell even michael levine in his post about « why hans gets the job » name-dropped EVERYONE at rcp but klaus <br>So i was wondering how people act towards jim nowadays, especially ramin djawadi who is really popular now and started as his assistant!Meh. As long as Steve is still there trying to salvage the movies with his music I'll be fine.Not so fast!<br><br>h t t p s ://screenrant.com/transformers-movie-universe-reboot-cancell ed-rumors-denied/amp/It's probably for the best at this point. With the fifth film, the continuity was ripped apart and the story became unbelievably convoluted. So many characters have been wasted and killed off throughout the series. At this point, audiences don't really know what's going on. I think it's time they take a break, and then start anew. <br><br>I started watching the films when I was younger, and while I'd love for them to wrap up the "story", how many movies would it take to do so?Hey man, that was a really good score okay lol but i mean like a good superhero movie like a marvel or DC
Well, there's always Catwoman...Damn so he ruined his own career? i hope he gets a second shot. Would to see what he can do with a superhero movie. I know he'd kill it if given the chance. Hopefully disney will let him score Christopher Robin. Here's hoping!they are going to reboot transformers, oh my GOD!Rabin himself has never considered to be a Zimmer-guy.Lol, maybe Trevor can return for Deep Blue Sea 2! Not that THAT would help his career much....<br><br>
im actually very happy, that trevor didn't renew his style like hans for a couple of times. i just wish, he would compose more for orchestra only without guitars and cheap sounding samples. scores like Remember The Titans, The Great Raid and Flyboys prove that he can do it. maybe bruckheimer will hire him someday again. trevor composed amazing scores for him....with help by rcp on a couple of movies. ;)Yeah I agree, the problem with Trevor is that he never adapted to his environment, so to speak... He never changed his style, always the same kind of writing (big amazing theme + big action + guitars) and slowly lost the interest of everyone...<br><br>Key is being able to renew yourself (for better or for worse). But I miss his themes cause he's an amazing melody writer.<br><br>I know he wants to work, he wants to be hired to score, even if he doesn't "need" it really, and yes he has his solo/band career going on as well...<br><br>Funny story about Trevor he never really liked being listed on Hans-Zimmer.com as he never was a regular RCP occupant (even if I think having worked with Mancina and then done pretty much 5 scores at RCP, and then having in his team former RCP members, it did justify to me)... But since I'm probably the last one promoting his career on the internet, and having his brother-in-law Steve Kofsky being RCP's boss, I keep him there ! loltrevor rabin is taking a break from composing filmmusic and was on tour the last 2 years with jon anderson and rick wakeman from YES. they created a new band called ARW. at the moment they are working on new songs.and what about Trevor Rabin? He is amazing composer as well, sadly we don´t hear about him anymoreThanks Hybrid for those informations. I always had some fear Hans had his fingers in his departure from rcp and making his career-life as hard as it can get. It's too bad to see he doesn't appreciate the gift it was given to him. That talent was beyond, and the collaboration between Hans and Klaus was magical. I so would have wished it would never have stopped. And by reading your comments, Hans seems to think that aswell :(
In fact, he's not even a composer anymore, he has his own company which deals with movie broadcasting worldwide... He does a score here & there but it never was his vocation... He just happened to be ridiculously talented (and Hans will confirm this to anyone even to this day).On Hans ? No. On Klaus...<br><br><br>I'll say one thing : waste of talent... I loved Klaus' music and his amazing scores while he was in RCP, but he didn't need the help of anyone to destroy his own career... Too bad...klaus said in an interview last year, that he was looking to do some french movies, because he saw one on a flight to paris and was amazed by that movie and also because he loves paris and has a couple of friends there. he contacted people there to get in the french film business. he likes the way the people work there in the business. more freedom for him. in the interview he doesn't sound like he had to do these movies, because otherwiese he wouldn't get work. he really wanted to do these movies.because it would put a bad light to zimmer? are his hands involved in this that badelt isn't getting any big movies at all?There's a lot more to the Klaus story I can't really disclose here...
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Hans ZimmerGavin GreenawayHarry Gregson-WilliamsAdam Smalley
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The Peacemaker (Limited)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 152'13
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CD1
  1. Voice Of God - Vassily's Dilemma (6:49)
  2. Hijack (7:46)
  3. It Wasn't An Accident - Exporting Good Will - Smoke Screen (3:55)
  4. Bombs On The Move - Alexsander Kodoroff - Kodoroff's Alive (5:11)
  5. Good Guys - Bad Guys - Dusan's Village (1:51)
  6. Keep On Truckin' - Head Of Transportation - Hasselhoff - Escape (4:38)
  7. Car Chase (5:51)
  8. Forty-Four E - Dusan's Confession (3:24)
  9. Truck Convoy - License Plate (2:46)
  10. Nocturne In C# Minor (1:15) (Frederic Chopin)
  11. Get Me Authorized (feat. Mamak Khadem) (2:38)
  12. Checkpoint - Helicopter Chase (12:11)
  13. One Unaccounted For - Dusan Gets Bomb - Dusan's speech (5:06)
  14. He's Going To New York - F.B.I. N.Y. - Swiss Flight #1204 (4:37)
  15. Dusan's Flashback (6:18)
CD2
  1. Dusan With Bomb - Dusan In Church (11:18)
  2. Dusan Kills Himself (3:28)
  3. Dr. Kelly Is O.K. - Dr. Kelly Got 10 More (3:28)
    BONUS TRACKS
  4. Trains (Original Album Version) (13:54)
  5. Devoe's Revenge (Original Album Version) (5:16)
  6. Sarajevo (Original Album Version) (8:43)
  7. Chase (Original Album Version) (17:06)
  8. Peacemaker (Original Album Version) (9:45)
  9. Get Me Authorized (Alternate Vocals feat. Lisbeth Scott) (2:42)
  10. The Peacemaker Trailer Music (2:18)
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MrFix reply Replies: 10 || 2014-05-31 00:44:44
Wow, the sound on this is hurtful to my ears. the highs and mids are crazily painful and hardly anything at the bottom. very disappointed with LLL


trent easton navarro2014-06-01 13:13:24
Haven't listened to this one with headphones yet but at first listen I don't hear anything wrong with it. But I must admit I'm not a major audiophile, so what do I know.


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-01 13:36:54
Well they didn't kick anyone's ass with the mastering...


The 1997 OST was a lot more violent (and suitable for this kind of score)... They played it weak here (they even made the 1997 OST selection softer here)...


Cloud2014-06-01 19:21:12
The only thing I don't like about this is that some parts are way more silent than I'd like them to be. I find myself adjusting the volume constantly while listening to this.


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-01 19:34:15
Which is exactly the definition of a not great mastering... lol


Edmund Meinerts2014-06-01 22:33:00
I haven't listened to the new release yet but is the sound still better than the boot?


Anonymous2014-06-02 04:22:41
Actually, dynamic range is a good thing, Hybrid.


RealFfingMusic2014-06-02 07:22:36
Dynamic range is definitely a good thing, but only when it enhances the music. But this one has such a high dynamic range that one has to keep a finger on volume control, or risk missing out certain portions. That, m'friend, is BAD remastering.

P.S. I've listened to only 4-5 tracks and I already HATE it.


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-02 07:59:10
It's a good thing for an orchestral score like Kingdom of Heaven...

For Peacemaker, not so much...


MrFix2014-06-02 11:40:39
@hybrid
Exactly!! For the peacemaker, because it's mainly synthetic (not to sure if it is completely) it's like volume was intentionally dropped and peaked during post recording to try and give more of a dynamic sound for on screen purposes. I've noticed a few scores like that too from zimmer, crimson tide for one comes into mind.


Soundtracks942017-09-20 19:32:29
I own the CD and I agree there are times in the score where it's so bombastic it distorts your speakers.

Still, I felt this was a great score from Zimmer. It was peak Russian sounding chorus time for Hans and the action cues were better than other scores of this time like The Rock.

Mike reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-08 22:14:36
I feel like John Powell's name for "Additional Music" is new here...Have I just been missing it, or has new info come to light?


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 22:48:41
Yeah, I never noticed that either. Didn't think HGW was involved with this either outside of the trailer music (or is that all that is meant by "additional music" here?).

We all know Greenaway worked extensively on this and he did Face/Off with Powell the same year, so who knows...


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-08 23:15:01
I found that. Hans couldn't confirm nor deny, he doesn't remember... lol

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2014-08-22 19:30:39
who arranged the trailer track?


Hybrid Soldier2014-08-22 20:14:19
Click "See details..."


Anonymous2014-08-22 23:14:36
thanks

Anonymous reply Replies: 15 || 2014-05-16 15:13:04
anyone got a tracklist? :P


trent easton navarro2014-05-16 16:41:29
not yet, guess we'll have to wait till tuesday


Poe2014-05-20 05:52:06
DISC 1
1. Voice of God / Vassily’s Dilemma 6:49
2. Hijack 7:46
3. It Wasn’t an Accident / Exporting Good Will / Smoke Screen 3:55
4. Bombs on the Move / Alexsander Kodoroff / Kodoroff’s Alive 5:11
5. Good Guys / Bad Guys / Dusan’s Village 1:51
6. Keep On Truckin’ / Head of Transportation / Hasselhoff / Escape 4:38
7. Car Chase 5:51
8. Forty-Four E / Dusan’s Confession 3:24
9. Truck Convoy / License Plate 2:46
10. Nocturne in C# Minor 1:15 (Frederic Chopin)
11. Get Me Authorized (feat. Mamak Khadem) 2:38
12. Checkpoint / Helicopter Chase 12:11
13. One Unaccounted For / Dusan Gets Bomb/ Dusan’s Speech 5:06
14. He’s Going to New York / F.B.I. N.Y. / Swiss Flight #1204 4:37
15. Dusan’s Flashback 6:18
TOTAL DISC TIME: 74:16

DISC 2
1. Dusan With Bomb / Dusan in Church 11:18
2. Dusan Kills Himself 3:28
3. Dr. Kelly Is O.K. / Dr. Kelly Got 10 More 3:28
BONUS TRACKS
4. Trains (original album version) 13:54
5. Devoe’s Revenge (original album version) 5:16
6. Sarajevo (original album version) 8:43
7. Chase (original album version) 17:06
8. Peacemaker (original album version) 9:45
9. Get Me Authorized (alternate vocals feat. Lisbeth Scott) 2:42
10. The Peacemaker Trailer Music 2:18


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-20 12:12:14
Oh La-La Land...I love you, but it seems like your trend of pointlessly combining separate cues into lengthier ones shows no sign of abating. :/


Aggelos2014-05-20 14:24:02
It's great to have all this material remastered, restored and dressed in an official package/disc.

However, I was wondering what happened to the unused cues of Peacemaker?
There is a rumour that some composers block(ed) various scores from receiving an official expanded release. Do you think that something like that happened in this case?
LaLaLand must have known that there was an unofficial release with unused cues.
I was expecting surprises from this (such as previously unreleased material etc), but so far I don't see anything big.
It looks more in the style of Broken Arrow and Speed 2. That is to say, on the one hand they were official expanded releases, but on the other hand there had been more material available (on promo releases, et al) that wasn't include for some reason.





Hybrid Soldier2014-05-20 15:52:57
What are you talking about ? The fake thing floating around for a decade ? lol


Aggelos2014-05-20 17:18:22
Ya dat thing.
Was it phoney??
In any case, where iz da previouzly unrealeazed material??


mark2014-05-20 19:08:38
hey there, just wanted to to clear this up, i remastered a few of the tracks from peacemaker just for fun, and added some extra sounds i created on my synthesizer, i named it the unused cues which is where those tracks came from, hope this helps


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-20 19:14:11
And people were naive enough to believe it, especially 10 years ago...


Poe2014-05-20 19:58:23
What fake thing are we referring to?

And yes, Edmund, my first thought was exactly the same.


Aggelos2014-05-20 22:00:13
Excellent! Not that we have clarified this up, I think we can go on with our lives. Cheers!!!

The thematic material that appears on the events that take place in Sarajevo somehow reminds me ideas by Ippolitov-Ivanov featured in his orchestral suite Caucasian Sketches.
Search on youtube for Ippolitov-Ivanov "In a Village" (the 2nd movement of the suite)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pqperR8R4g


Mr Tweedy2014-05-21 00:31:01
10 or 15 years ago, there was a "Peacemaker - unused cues" bootleg album floating around. I think they refer to this. And yes, it was a bunch of bootleg cues edited together with some synth and drums added on top of it. There was no "real" new music from Hans' studio at all.


LP2014-05-21 16:36:01
@Edmund Meinerts

More tracks = more money. So they end up compromising by way of combining the cues together. I hate this, because it's never sounded seamless, but I have to accept it because it's the only way these thing could be released legitimately


Poe2014-05-22 19:23:00
Number of tracks has nothing to do with it. More music=more money, if anything, but having split tracks wouldn't make it more expensive.


Aggelos2014-05-23 13:37:35
Regarding cues such as Dusan's Confession, Dusan's Village, Dusan's speech, the thematic material somehow bears an interesting resemblance to ideas by Mikhail Ippolitov-Ivanov featured in his orchestral suite Caucasian Sketches ("In a Village" the 2nd movement of the suite).
Am I the only one who has noticed this?




Aggelos2014-05-25 16:52:00
In addition, Trains (album version) or Hijack have moments that remind a little bit Sergei Prokofiev's "Tylbat's Death" from Romeo and Juliet.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 5 || 2014-05-22 22:23:28
I added all the booklet credits... :)


thejok3rrules2014-05-22 23:28:50
Did Zimmer actually wrote everything except ''Devoe's Revenge'' and the trailer music?


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 12:14:49
That's ironic considering "Devoe's Revenge" is the one cue we know is cowritten by Gavin Greenaway.


thejok3rrules2014-05-23 19:53:17
It's nothing ironic, mate... I checked the booklet, it said ''All Songs Written by Hans Zimmer Except
"Devoe's Revenge" Written by Gavin Greenaway
& "The Peacemaker Trailer Music" Written by Harry Gregson-Williams'', so I asked myself: Is it true? Whatever.


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 21:46:10
Oh, sorry! I somehow managed to read your comment the wrong way around. Silly me... :p


thejok3rrules2014-05-24 16:23:20
Don't worry, mate, it's not a problem ;)

marco reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-20 23:24:19
i hope the remastering on this isn't as harsh on the ears as broken arrow was

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 7 || 2014-05-04 15:09:05
The best of the best for Hans


Aggelos2014-05-04 19:00:47
This is going to be very interesting, nonetheless!
Hopefully, LaLaLand will release more stuff from the Media Ventures gang of the '90s before long.



trent easton navarro2014-05-04 20:13:16
LaLaLand has already released quite some quality stuff from the 90's (Mancina's Bad Boys, Money Train and Speed scores, Zimmer's Broken Arrow and Days of Thunder). But there are still a few I like so released (Fair Game, Assassins) or expanded (The Fan, The Rock)


Anonymous2014-05-05 18:52:11
Next up please, The Fan, The Fan, The Fan!!!


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-05 19:30:18
I'm really surprised how many, uh, fans The Fan has. I know that apparently the album isn't a good representative of the score, but still - I didn't think what's there is really much good. I'm much more excited about The Peacemaker (even though I've already heard it :p )


Lambegue2014-05-05 19:40:18
I'm really excited about this one too


trent easton navarro2014-05-05 22:42:34
Like I said in an other thread, for me The Fan is the perfect combination between Hans Zimmer and NIN. Considering you don't like Trent Reznor, I'm not surprised you don't really care for The Fan.

As for this one, can't wait to own it! One of my fave Zimmer scores and of his finest action scores.


Aggelos2014-05-13 21:24:27
From LLL's FB page
@"
REISSUE PRODUCED FOR LA-LA LAND RECORDS BY DAN GOLDWASSER
MASTERED BY DOUG SCHWARTZ AT MULHOLLAND MUSIC
LINER NOTES BY TIM GREIVING
ART DIRECTION BY DAN GOLDWASSER

At long last, La-La Land Records, UME and Paramount Pictures (in association with Dreamworks Pictures) present one of Hans Zimmer’s greatest action scores – THE PEACEMAKER. This 1997 crackerjack thriller features one of Mr. Zimmer’s most legendary, jaw-droppingly awesome scores. Jam packed with over 2 &#189; hours of music -- including original album edits, an alternate vocal featuring Lisbeth Scott and music exclusively written for the film’s trailer -- this 2 cd set features in depth liner notes by film music writer Tim Greiving and spectacular art direction by Dan Goldwasser. A must have purchase for any fan of high octane, memorable action music.
"@

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