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I like this music!The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....Some of the action bits, yeah......
This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lolThis right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me know
The clips are on his Facebook page.2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me tooExcited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)
God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?
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Hans ZimmerGavin GreenawayHarry Gregson-WilliamsAdam Smalley
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicScore Producer
The Peacemaker (Limited)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 152'13
HZimmer.com rating:        Not yet rated
Fans rating:     rate at 1 out of 5 rate at 2 out of 5 rate at 3 out of 5 rate at 4 out of 5 rate at 5 out of 5   2/5 (5048 votes)
CD1
  1. Voice Of God - Vassily's Dilemma (6:49)
  2. Hijack (7:46)
  3. It Wasn't An Accident - Exporting Good Will - Smoke Screen (3:55)
  4. Bombs On The Move - Alexsander Kodoroff - Kodoroff's Alive (5:11)
  5. Good Guys - Bad Guys - Dusan's Village (1:51)
  6. Keep On Truckin' - Head Of Transportation - Hasselhoff - Escape (4:38)
  7. Car Chase (5:51)
  8. Forty-Four E - Dusan's Confession (3:24)
  9. Truck Convoy - License Plate (2:46)
  10. Nocturne In C# Minor (1:15) (Frederic Chopin)
  11. Get Me Authorized (feat. Mamak Khadem) (2:38)
  12. Checkpoint - Helicopter Chase (12:11)
  13. One Unaccounted For - Dusan Gets Bomb - Dusan's speech (5:06)
  14. He's Going To New York - F.B.I. N.Y. - Swiss Flight #1204 (4:37)
  15. Dusan's Flashback (6:18)
CD2
  1. Dusan With Bomb - Dusan In Church (11:18)
  2. Dusan Kills Himself (3:28)
  3. Dr. Kelly Is O.K. - Dr. Kelly Got 10 More (3:28)
    BONUS TRACKS
  4. Trains (Original Album Version) (13:54)
  5. Devoe's Revenge (Original Album Version) (5:16)
  6. Sarajevo (Original Album Version) (8:43)
  7. Chase (Original Album Version) (17:06)
  8. Peacemaker (Original Album Version) (9:45)
  9. Get Me Authorized (Alternate Vocals feat. Lisbeth Scott) (2:42)
  10. The Peacemaker Trailer Music (2:18)
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SPECTER reply Replies: 3 || 2018-05-09 05:18:57
Hi guys, is the climax of album version "Peacemaker" with Lisbeth Scott and the male choir featured in the movie somewhere? Saw the film today and didn't hear that awesome singing.


Mike (OTM)2018-05-09 05:51:45
I haven't seen the movie, but "Peacemaker" is a suite. So if you didn't hear it, it's probably not in there. Classic situation with Hans. lol.


SPECTER2018-05-09 23:32:27
kept my ears open the whole time didn't hear it the film. The part in referring to is 8:20 of album version "Peacemaker". Another piece that is in the album but not in the movie is 14:10 of "Chase". It's funny to me because usually some really good film cues are left out of the album but it's the opposite in this case.


Mr Tweedy2018-05-10 10:20:48
As Mike (OTM) mentioned, the track Peacemaker is a theme suite, and isn't used at all in the movie.

As for the "Chase" cue, in my memories it's used in its entirety in the film (but as it is a medley of different tracks, it's popping in several sequences of the film : Helicopter Chase, New York, End Credits). I'm not 100% sure, but I guess the part at 14:10 was used during the NY Chase.

MrFix reply Replies: 10 || 2014-05-31 00:44:44
Wow, the sound on this is hurtful to my ears. the highs and mids are crazily painful and hardly anything at the bottom. very disappointed with LLL


trent easton navarro2014-06-01 13:13:24
Haven't listened to this one with headphones yet but at first listen I don't hear anything wrong with it. But I must admit I'm not a major audiophile, so what do I know.


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-01 13:36:54
Well they didn't kick anyone's ass with the mastering...


The 1997 OST was a lot more violent (and suitable for this kind of score)... They played it weak here (they even made the 1997 OST selection softer here)...


Cloud2014-06-01 19:21:12
The only thing I don't like about this is that some parts are way more silent than I'd like them to be. I find myself adjusting the volume constantly while listening to this.


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-01 19:34:15
Which is exactly the definition of a not great mastering... lol


Edmund Meinerts2014-06-01 22:33:00
I haven't listened to the new release yet but is the sound still better than the boot?


Anonymous2014-06-02 04:22:41
Actually, dynamic range is a good thing, Hybrid.


RealFfingMusic2014-06-02 07:22:36
Dynamic range is definitely a good thing, but only when it enhances the music. But this one has such a high dynamic range that one has to keep a finger on volume control, or risk missing out certain portions. That, m'friend, is BAD remastering.

P.S. I've listened to only 4-5 tracks and I already HATE it.


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-02 07:59:10
It's a good thing for an orchestral score like Kingdom of Heaven...

For Peacemaker, not so much...


MrFix2014-06-02 11:40:39
@hybrid
Exactly!! For the peacemaker, because it's mainly synthetic (not to sure if it is completely) it's like volume was intentionally dropped and peaked during post recording to try and give more of a dynamic sound for on screen purposes. I've noticed a few scores like that too from zimmer, crimson tide for one comes into mind.


Soundtracks942017-09-20 19:32:29
I own the CD and I agree there are times in the score where it's so bombastic it distorts your speakers.

Still, I felt this was a great score from Zimmer. It was peak Russian sounding chorus time for Hans and the action cues were better than other scores of this time like The Rock.

Mike reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-08 22:14:36
I feel like John Powell's name for "Additional Music" is new here...Have I just been missing it, or has new info come to light?


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 22:48:41
Yeah, I never noticed that either. Didn't think HGW was involved with this either outside of the trailer music (or is that all that is meant by "additional music" here?).

We all know Greenaway worked extensively on this and he did Face/Off with Powell the same year, so who knows...


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-08 23:15:01
I found that. Hans couldn't confirm nor deny, he doesn't remember... lol

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2014-08-22 19:30:39
who arranged the trailer track?

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Hybrid Soldier2014-08-22 20:14:19
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Anonymous2014-08-22 23:14:36
thanks

Anonymous reply Replies: 15 || 2014-05-16 15:13:04
anyone got a tracklist? :P


trent easton navarro2014-05-16 16:41:29
not yet, guess we'll have to wait till tuesday


Poe2014-05-20 05:52:06
DISC 1
1. Voice of God / Vassily’s Dilemma 6:49
2. Hijack 7:46
3. It Wasn’t an Accident / Exporting Good Will / Smoke Screen 3:55
4. Bombs on the Move / Alexsander Kodoroff / Kodoroff’s Alive 5:11
5. Good Guys / Bad Guys / Dusan’s Village 1:51
6. Keep On Truckin’ / Head of Transportation / Hasselhoff / Escape 4:38
7. Car Chase 5:51
8. Forty-Four E / Dusan’s Confession 3:24
9. Truck Convoy / License Plate 2:46
10. Nocturne in C# Minor 1:15 (Frederic Chopin)
11. Get Me Authorized (feat. Mamak Khadem) 2:38
12. Checkpoint / Helicopter Chase 12:11
13. One Unaccounted For / Dusan Gets Bomb/ Dusan’s Speech 5:06
14. He’s Going to New York / F.B.I. N.Y. / Swiss Flight #1204 4:37
15. Dusan’s Flashback 6:18
TOTAL DISC TIME: 74:16

DISC 2
1. Dusan With Bomb / Dusan in Church 11:18
2. Dusan Kills Himself 3:28
3. Dr. Kelly Is O.K. / Dr. Kelly Got 10 More 3:28
BONUS TRACKS
4. Trains (original album version) 13:54
5. Devoe’s Revenge (original album version) 5:16
6. Sarajevo (original album version) 8:43
7. Chase (original album version) 17:06
8. Peacemaker (original album version) 9:45
9. Get Me Authorized (alternate vocals feat. Lisbeth Scott) 2:42
10. The Peacemaker Trailer Music 2:18


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-20 12:12:14
Oh La-La Land...I love you, but it seems like your trend of pointlessly combining separate cues into lengthier ones shows no sign of abating. :/


Aggelos2014-05-20 14:24:02
It's great to have all this material remastered, restored and dressed in an official package/disc.

However, I was wondering what happened to the unused cues of Peacemaker?
There is a rumour that some composers block(ed) various scores from receiving an official expanded release. Do you think that something like that happened in this case?
LaLaLand must have known that there was an unofficial release with unused cues.
I was expecting surprises from this (such as previously unreleased material etc), but so far I don't see anything big.
It looks more in the style of Broken Arrow and Speed 2. That is to say, on the one hand they were official expanded releases, but on the other hand there had been more material available (on promo releases, et al) that wasn't include for some reason.





Hybrid Soldier2014-05-20 15:52:57
What are you talking about ? The fake thing floating around for a decade ? lol


Aggelos2014-05-20 17:18:22
Ya dat thing.
Was it phoney??
In any case, where iz da previouzly unrealeazed material??


mark2014-05-20 19:08:38
hey there, just wanted to to clear this up, i remastered a few of the tracks from peacemaker just for fun, and added some extra sounds i created on my synthesizer, i named it the unused cues which is where those tracks came from, hope this helps


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-20 19:14:11
And people were naive enough to believe it, especially 10 years ago...


Poe2014-05-20 19:58:23
What fake thing are we referring to?

And yes, Edmund, my first thought was exactly the same.


Aggelos2014-05-20 22:00:13
Excellent! Not that we have clarified this up, I think we can go on with our lives. Cheers!!!

The thematic material that appears on the events that take place in Sarajevo somehow reminds me ideas by Ippolitov-Ivanov featured in his orchestral suite Caucasian Sketches.
Search on youtube for Ippolitov-Ivanov "In a Village" (the 2nd movement of the suite)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pqperR8R4g


Mr Tweedy2014-05-21 00:31:01
10 or 15 years ago, there was a "Peacemaker - unused cues" bootleg album floating around. I think they refer to this. And yes, it was a bunch of bootleg cues edited together with some synth and drums added on top of it. There was no "real" new music from Hans' studio at all.


LP2014-05-21 16:36:01
@Edmund Meinerts

More tracks = more money. So they end up compromising by way of combining the cues together. I hate this, because it's never sounded seamless, but I have to accept it because it's the only way these thing could be released legitimately


Poe2014-05-22 19:23:00
Number of tracks has nothing to do with it. More music=more money, if anything, but having split tracks wouldn't make it more expensive.


Aggelos2014-05-23 13:37:35
Regarding cues such as Dusan's Confession, Dusan's Village, Dusan's speech, the thematic material somehow bears an interesting resemblance to ideas by Mikhail Ippolitov-Ivanov featured in his orchestral suite Caucasian Sketches ("In a Village" the 2nd movement of the suite).
Am I the only one who has noticed this?




Aggelos2014-05-25 16:52:00
In addition, Trains (album version) or Hijack have moments that remind a little bit Sergei Prokofiev's "Tylbat's Death" from Romeo and Juliet.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 5 || 2014-05-22 22:23:28
I added all the booklet credits... :)


thejok3rrules2014-05-22 23:28:50
Did Zimmer actually wrote everything except ''Devoe's Revenge'' and the trailer music?


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 12:14:49
That's ironic considering "Devoe's Revenge" is the one cue we know is cowritten by Gavin Greenaway.


thejok3rrules2014-05-23 19:53:17
It's nothing ironic, mate... I checked the booklet, it said ''All Songs Written by Hans Zimmer Except
"Devoe's Revenge" Written by Gavin Greenaway
& "The Peacemaker Trailer Music" Written by Harry Gregson-Williams'', so I asked myself: Is it true? Whatever.


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 21:46:10
Oh, sorry! I somehow managed to read your comment the wrong way around. Silly me... :p


thejok3rrules2014-05-24 16:23:20
Don't worry, mate, it's not a problem ;)

marco reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-20 23:24:19
i hope the remastering on this isn't as harsh on the ears as broken arrow was

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 7 || 2014-05-04 15:09:05
The best of the best for Hans


Aggelos2014-05-04 19:00:47
This is going to be very interesting, nonetheless!
Hopefully, LaLaLand will release more stuff from the Media Ventures gang of the '90s before long.



trent easton navarro2014-05-04 20:13:16
LaLaLand has already released quite some quality stuff from the 90's (Mancina's Bad Boys, Money Train and Speed scores, Zimmer's Broken Arrow and Days of Thunder). But there are still a few I like so released (Fair Game, Assassins) or expanded (The Fan, The Rock)


Anonymous2014-05-05 18:52:11
Next up please, The Fan, The Fan, The Fan!!!


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-05 19:30:18
I'm really surprised how many, uh, fans The Fan has. I know that apparently the album isn't a good representative of the score, but still - I didn't think what's there is really much good. I'm much more excited about The Peacemaker (even though I've already heard it :p )


Lambegue2014-05-05 19:40:18
I'm really excited about this one too


trent easton navarro2014-05-05 22:42:34
Like I said in an other thread, for me The Fan is the perfect combination between Hans Zimmer and NIN. Considering you don't like Trent Reznor, I'm not surprised you don't really care for The Fan.

As for this one, can't wait to own it! One of my fave Zimmer scores and of his finest action scores.


Aggelos2014-05-13 21:24:27
From LLL's FB page
@"
REISSUE PRODUCED FOR LA-LA LAND RECORDS BY DAN GOLDWASSER
MASTERED BY DOUG SCHWARTZ AT MULHOLLAND MUSIC
LINER NOTES BY TIM GREIVING
ART DIRECTION BY DAN GOLDWASSER

At long last, La-La Land Records, UME and Paramount Pictures (in association with Dreamworks Pictures) present one of Hans Zimmer’s greatest action scores – THE PEACEMAKER. This 1997 crackerjack thriller features one of Mr. Zimmer’s most legendary, jaw-droppingly awesome scores. Jam packed with over 2 &#189; hours of music -- including original album edits, an alternate vocal featuring Lisbeth Scott and music exclusively written for the film’s trailer -- this 2 cd set features in depth liner notes by film music writer Tim Greiving and spectacular art direction by Dan Goldwasser. A must have purchase for any fan of high octane, memorable action music.
"@

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