"For The Dancing And The Dreaming" Performed by Gerard Butler, Craig Ferguson & Mary Jane Wells Produced by John Powell Lyrics by Shane MacGowan Music by Jon Thor Birgisson & John Powell
"Where No One Goes" Performed by Jónsi & John Powell Produced by Alex Somers, John Powell & Jónsi Lyrics by Jon Thor Birgisson Music by Jon Thor Birgisson & John Powell Engineered & Mixed by Alex Somers Drums & Percussion by Samuli Kosminen
Music Composed & Produced by John Powell
Executive in Charge of Music for DreamWorks Animation: Sunny Park Executive in Charge of Soundtracks for Relativity Music Group: Jason Markey Executive Soundtrack Producers: Jason Markey, Bob Bowen & Ryan Kavanaugh Music Coordinators for Relativity Music Group: Ian Broucek & Meredith McBee Album Mastered by Patricia Sullivan-Fourstar at Bernie Grundman Mastering
Additional Music, Arranging, Midi Orchestration & Programming by Paul Mounsey & Anthony Willis Music Editor: Tom Carlson Additional Music Editor: Tom Kramer Orchestra & Choir Conducted by Gavin Greenaway Score Recorded by Nick Wollage Score Mixed by Shawn Murphy Supervising Orchestrator: John Ashton Thomas Orchestrations by Andrew Kinney, Randy Kerber, Dave Metzger & Tommy Laurence Additional Orchestrations by Pete Anthony, Germaine Franco & Jeff Atmajian Orchestra Contractor: Isobel Griffiths Assistant Orchestra Contractor: Lucy Whalley
Harps/Celtic Harps: Skaila Kanga & Helen Tunstall Piano & Harmonium: Gavin Greenaway Piano & Celeste: Dave Hartley & Simon Chamberlain Bagpipes: The Red Hot Chilli Pipers: Lorne MacDougall, Craig Munro, Kyle Stuart Howie, Dougie McCance, Cameron Barnes Uilleann Pipes: Eric Rigler Irish Flute/Penny Whistles: Andy Findon Bodhran: Kieran Leonard Guitars & Hammered Dulcimer: Vivian Milanova Slate Marimba & Glass Marimba: Germaine Franco & Beth Caucci Choirmaster: Jenny O'Grady Choir: Metro Voices Solo Vocals: Dee Lewis Clay
Vocal Contractor (U.S.A.): Edie Lehmann Boddicker Music Preparation by Mark Graham for JoAnn Kane Music Service Librarian: David Hage for Dakota Music Score Recorded at Abbey Road Studios & Air Studios, London & 5 Cat Studio, Los Angeles, CA
Digital Recordist: Chris Barrett Score Assistant Engineers: Laurence Anslow, John Barrett & Matt Mysko Studio Managers: Alison Burton for Air Studios & Colette Barber for Abbey Road Studios Score Mixed at 5 Cat Studio, Los Angeles, CA
Scoring Editor: David Channing Digital Mix Recordist: Erik Swanson Additional Recording & Mixing: John Traunwieser Additional Overdub Production: Germaine Franco Digital Score Production: Beth Caucci & Victor Chaga Composer Max Tools: John Crooks Additional Composer Max Tools & Score Production Assistant: Michael Matthews Score Production Supervisor: Charlene Ann Huang Score Production Assistants: Michael Nisbet, Michael Christofi, Drew Jordan, Tori Fillat & Sebastien Christie Music Clearances: Julie Butchko Music Business Affairs: Kevin Breen Soundtrack Wranglers for DreamWorks Animation: Debbie Luner & Charlene Huang
John Powell Thanks: Jeffrey Katzenberg, Dean DeBlois, Bonnie Arnold, Bill Damaschke, Chris Sanders, Sunny Park, Jónsi, Alex Somers, John Carr, Cressida Cowell, Randy Thom, Gerard Butler, Craig Ferguson, Tom Carlson, Tom Kramer, Steven Hoggett, Shane MacGowan, Charlene Huang, Shawn Murphy, Nick Wollage, Gavin Greenaway, Tighe Sheldon, Matt Ward, Marc Viner, The Red Hot Chilli Pipers, Morag MacKay, Donald Murray, Michael Baker, Colette Barber, Alison Burton, Laura Engel, Richard Kraft, Jeffrey Light, Jon Burlingame, Mike Todd, Royal Percussion, Ron Chrisman & Rick Chrisman, Bob Hunt, Betty Bennett, Danny Haikin, Paul J. de Benedictis, Maarten Spruijt, Tammy Shea, Jeff Petersen, Erica McDaniel, Nathan Eames, Howard Sherman, Derrick Helmlich, Kim Pfluger, Anthony Gordon, Andrew Wild, Rich Nevens, Tom Graham, Mariana Montague, Mark Venezia, Andrew Pask, David Zicarelli & Sam Estes
Dedicated to Melinda Lerner & Oliver Powell
DreamWorks Animation Thanks: Lisa Baldwin, Melissa Baldwin, Jim Beshears, Andy Birch, Liz Camp, Alex Cardullo, Amy Clark, Victoria Clarke, Kevin Cloepfil, Sheri Conn, Ann Daly, Dave Dinsmore, David Farley, Kim Fast, Michael Francis, Jennifer Frey, Matt Garland, Jim Gallagher, John Geller, Fiona Gillott, Shane Glick, Elliot Groffman, Kendra Haaland, Wayne Hellinger, Mark Hester, Chris Hewitt, Sam Hinton, Tom Houlden, Rebecca Huntley, Paul Iannicelli, James Jamail, Steve Jamerson, David Joyner, Peach Kazen, Robbin Kelley, Richard LaForge, Alan Lander, Lauren Lear, Jessica Linares, Alison Lima, Carole Sue Lipman, Charlotte Matthews, Steve Moder, Emily Morchower, Gerry O'Boyle, Dean O'Connor, Katherine O'Connor, Jabari Phillips, Alexander Plitt, Michele Reed, Jacquelyn Robbins, Cristina Schweitzer, Rose Silurik, Janine Small, Kate Spencer, Diana Stolpe, Dawn Taubin, Gregg Taylor, Joni Torres, Maria Trbojevic, Larry Weisberg, Josh Wood, Pierre-Olivier Vincent & Alissa Wright
Relativity Music Group Thanks: Frank Banyai, Big Picture Media, Patricia Blair, Ryan Kavanaugh, Greg Lapidus, Tucker Tooley & Happy Walters
Release date : 06/10/2014
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July 2018 will be a happy and sad day for me. Happy because the dream I've had since 2010 (that httyd would become a trilogy) has come true, and sad because it will all be over. May John Continue to right scores for decades to come!
John Powell’s music is so complex and full of themes. Here is a list of some of the themes from the first two movies alone: The Viking theme, the Flying theme, Astrid’s theme, Stoick’s theme, Viking teens’ theme, Evil dragon theme, Valka’s theme, Alphas’ theme, Drago’s theme, Stoick and Valka’s love theme, the Exploring theme, and Eret’s theme. Not to mention the Toothless Peril theme, the lost and found theme, the Dragon Vigilante theme, and a couple other nameless ones like the one heard in the beginning of track 16, ‘Dragon’s Den.’
There are even more themes than that. Can you list what tracks these themes appear in?
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The Viking theme is heard at 00:28 of ‘This is Berk’, movie 1 the Flying theme, is heard in ‘Test Trive’ movie 1 Astrid’s theme is heard in ‘Romantic Flight’ movie 1 Stoick’s theme is heard in the beginning of ‘Ready the Ships’ movie 1 Viking teens’ theme is heard at 01:41 of ‘Battling the Green Death ‘ movie 1 Evil dragon theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Dragon Battle’ movie 1 Valka’s theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Should I know you?’ movie 2 Alphas’ theme is heard at 1:51 in ‘Losing Mom/Meet the good Alpha’ movie 2 Drago’s theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Meet Drago’ movie 2 Stoick and Valka’s love theme, is heard in the beginning of ‘Hiccup Confronts Drago’ movie 2 the Exploring theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Together we map the World’ movie 2 Eret’s theme is heard in the beginning of ‘Toothless Lost’ movie 2 The Toothless Peril theme is actually the ‘Flying Theme’ converted to a minor key the lost and found theme is heard at 00:11 of ‘Toothless found’ and at 1:00 of ‘Toothless Lost’ movie 2 The Dragon Vigilante theme is heard in the beginning of ‘Flying with Mother’ movie 2
Good list, couple notes:
You're missing only the most important theme - the friendship ostinato! The one that's underneath the flying theme in "Test Drive", all throughout "Forbidden Friendship", turned into a melody at 0:50 of "Romantic Flight"...it's the glue that holds the entire series together.
Also, I had never actually picked up on what you call "Valka's theme", but it definitely recurs at the beginning of "Valka's Dragon Sanctuary", so good catch. I always thought that what you call the "Dragon Vigilante Theme" was Valka's since it's used so much more often and in more emotional scenes with her and Hiccup.
And I'm pretty sure Eret's theme is just a variation on the exploring theme, by the way.
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One Extra Note, Notice that the Exploring theme is mostly heart when Hiccup is off exploring, ignoring his father's wish for him to become chief. It is also heard when he is with Valka, who is telling him what he wants to hear: That he was meant to be the dragon savior, and the peace keeper of the viking world. But the last time that you here the Exploring theme is in the track 'Stoick saves Hiccup', and is never heard again after Hiccup puts away his childish ways and answers his father's call to become the chief. This decision is represented by the trumpets you here at 3:15 of 'Stoick's Ship'.
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I can't wait to hear the new themes in the 3rd movie
So there's a new poster going around for Joe Wright's PAN. Some versions of it have Dario Marianelli's name on it as expected...but others, apparently, have John Powell's instead.
Can you shed some light on this, Hybrid? Because Marianelli's a good composer and all, but if it is Powell...holy crap. :O
You can see the poster with Powell's name on it here:
www. ropeofsilicon .com/ movie/pan/ pan-poster-2/
This is fake.
Wishful thinking my friend. I doubt he's scoring anything any time soon. In fact, the way things are rolling, that third Dragon movie might well be his last effort for Hollywood.
People on the FSM forum are confirming it. Apparently the studio (not Joe Wright) rejected Marianelli's score for sounding too dark and "European".
I can believe that Marianelli might be rejected...but what I want to know is how the blue hell they got Powell, of all people, to step in and do the replacement?
I don't like score rejections on principle...but damn, when it's Powell who does the replacement it's hard for me to feel too upset about it. :D
I am feeling sorry for all those who were negatively affected by the recent waves of composer swaps but boy these news sure are as exciting as they are unexpected! Now if only Powell could score that Pixar Dinosaur movie along the way too...
Is this a rumor, or is Powell actually in?
Powell is scoring it. It is listed on his page on HZ.com!!!! Exciting!
Holy... fuck yes!
@Edmund Meinerts Too Dark And "European"? What the hell is wrong with producers nowadays?!!!!!! Marianelli And Powell are great composers.
All I can say is that I can't freaking wait!
Can you confirm this Hybrid?
With John Powell, nothing is confirmed. How in the world they can get mr. Powell? Does he want a new challenge of getting only 5 weeks to score a movie?
Anyway, i wont be surprised if this rejected rumour is true, Powell will back down once again, and the studio will seek another generic composer. I do really hope they will pick HGW or James Newton-"return to neverland"-Howard instead
Powell's gonna have longer than 5 five weeks now, movie just got pushed back to October.
There's no news on that at all. Not on Google or IMDb. What's your source?
No official source yet, but both Dan Goldwasser and Ford A. Thaxton have confirmed it on Maintitles and FSM respectively.
It's official enough for me ! ;)
Here ya go, your source now that its official. h t t p://variety.com/2015/film/news/pan-release-date-october-hugh -hackman-1201476156/
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Let's hope it's official because I just bought the score. It's one of John Powell's best! Check it out.
Didn't konw where else to post it... On YouTube, you can already listen to two tracks from Powell's "Pan" score, "Cable Car" and "Ship Fight".
Yep, they're sourced from PanMovie.com
Still not sure why the OP never told us.
These are great, sounds like HTTYD mixed with Road to El Dorado. Very excited for this.
That's exactly what I thought. You can also hear some "Mars Needs Moms" un there too.
Well, that whole theme, allthough still great, is all rehash from Powell's previous themes:
For the Pan theme, The first phrase is actually a modif of HTTYD theme's last phrase The second phrase has the same progression of Shrek theme The third and last phrase has similar progression with Shrek The Third Arthur's theme.
When it is heard in its slow, epic style with that trumpet background going on, it all clearly progresses like Shrek Theme in "Rumpels Defeat"
This will somehow turn out like Mars Needs Moms, with a lot of rehash, but turn out to be one of Powell's better.
Still, disappointing though, as i expect a whole new theme. But the orchestration is still top notch
I agree, but I still have very high hopes for the rest of the score! Can't wait! I'm already addicted to the two sample tracks anyway hahaha :)
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Hey FORZA, are you the samd FORZA with the Youtube channel?
HTTYD 2 is the highest rated score of the decade among critics, at least according to this table. s oundtrackgeek.com/v2/top-scores-critics-choice/ And still, I don't think the Academy will recognize JP's talent this year.
Anyone watched the movie yet? I wasn't even a fan of the first one's soundtrack, but I gotta admit that this one killed it.
You...you weren't a...a fan...of...
You don't deserve to listen to another sound for the rest of your cold, tasteless, gruesome music life, Notches!!
(Giving CPR to Ed.)
idk, it's just me or just in my theatre, the score fits very well with scenes, but it's just poorly mixed, it's completely overwhelmed by other sounds, the one that's noticable enough is flying with mother scene. Meanwhile, just watched Maleficent, not only does the score fit the scene, it's also wonderfully mixed, and sometimes, it overwhelms the other sounds, i can even hear the-utter-unnoticeable timpani sound in the background.
For the movie itself, the first one is way better, for me
aldan, I just watched the movie, and I thought the score was musically perfect (we already knew that) but also perfectly mixed. In fact, it was extremely loud and over-the-top, a divine pleasure for all Powell fans. I think it is impossible not to notice how awesome, epic and moving this score is in the movie. It's "just" an animated movie but with his grand score and serious tone it really looks like an epic adventures movie. I'm gonna see it again, that's for sure!
I saw the movie last night, got to say a few good tracks are missing from the released album. Sometimes just a few notes nothing to important but the most beautiful cue missing for me is a piano version of the "test drive" theme. Very moving. Different arrangements are to be noticed on several cues such as "Flying With Mother" and "Where no one Goes". The film mix of that song gives more power to the orchestra than what we car hear on the album ... Shame. Overall, I found the score much more interesting in the film than on the album
Yes, I noticed that as I was watching the film too.
A piano version of "Test Drive"? Are you sure it wasn't just a tracked in version of "Where's Hiccup?" from the first score?
I saw the movie last night. Yes, the beginning of the cue is very similar to "Where's Hiccup" but then we can heard the theme from "Flying with Mother" in a piano version too (but suddenly cut…)
You asked for it, I finally deeply reworked JP's career on the site (Booklet contents...) and added a few hours of audio ! Enjoy !
Thx a lot! Is "Po Finds The Truth" really John's work??
Just added a player for the great (but unfortunately missing in action these days :() James McKee Smith ! :)
Working on the other Powell guy, Paul Mounsey...
And done ! :)
Thanks! This gives us a bit of additional composer info that we didn't have before. Like I always suspected "Hot Seat" from Paycheck might be James McKee Smith, but never knew for sure (great cue, though!).
Awesome. Thanks :)
This is an interesting article. He talks about his upcoming oratorio and not working on certain kinds of films:
h ttp://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/classical/new s/john-powell-interview-i-sold-myself-to-the-devil-just-a-bi t-9466955 .html
If Po Finds the Truth is really Powell (or mostly him) then, wow....did Zimmer do anything on KFP2? I always thought the middle at least sounded like 100% Hans. "A funny world we live in", to quote The Joker.... :P
From what it sounds like, he wrote a sketch of the Shen theme. But you'd have to imagine if you're going to be credited as one of the primary composers on a score that you've done a significant amount of the legwork.
I guess he might have done Inner Peace as well judging by the crediting, but that's mostly a rehash of KFP1 material.
You would imagine that, NM...but then how do you explain scores like The Whole Wide World, Smilla's Sense of Snow, The Pledge, Invincible, Henri IV and Winter's Tale, where Zimmer's contribution was minimal or even completely nonexistent compared to the other composer?
Hans scored The Pledge more than anyone else... ;)
@Edmund Yeah I know, I wonder as well. But I try not to leap to the conclusion that 'HZ did nothing'. But for example on Madagascar 3, there's not a single cue that's not credited to someone else, so I do wonder what he actually did there. But I can't imagine he just sits there, writes a few sketches for character ideas and then directs others (Lorne!) who actually score it while he sips some tea. Surely he must be involved with actually writing the cues to scene as well? Maybe Hybrid knows more.
NM, that formulates the question perfectly.
I think another way of putting it, too, might be....Hans isn't lazy or dishonest, right? I don't think so. It doesn't seem likely that he would just sip a cup of tea while his buddies do the leg work.
This score is utterly fantastic. Perfect balance of old and new themes. I was so worried Powell wouldn't be able to follow up on the amazing job he did on the first one, but I needn't have!
Where did you listen to the whole score?
I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you.
Tell me and kill me. All I need to die peacefully is to get a listen...
Put it this way...if I tell you, I'LL get killed.
I understand... Can you at least tell us if you thought it was better than the first HTTYD?
Not quite, but it's very very close.
I find it hard to truly believe you, Edmund. After all, Powell is to you what Djawadi is to me ;)
That's exactly why you SHOULD believe me. Nobody could have possibly had higher expectations for this score than I did, and that I'm not disappointed by it should say a lot. :p
Not really, it's a matter of opinion. My opinion about the score is ultimately more important than your opinion. (To me.) And of course your opinion is more important than everyone else's. (To you!)
Just listened to it... Powell has been my favorite composer since I was 6 years old, and in my opinion, this and the first HTTYD are probably the most emotional and top-notch quality composed pieces of music I've ever and probably will ever hear. I'm very satisfied with this score and I haven't even listened to all of it yet! I'm typing this as I pre-order the album on Amazon... Can't wait until June 10th!
Had listened to all, this ranks high with John Powell's bests, and until now, the best score in 2014.
I love the original score, no one can beat the original, so the original is SLIGHTLY better. HTTYD 2 is a 5 star score, nonetheless.
I agree with you, Edmund. It's a truly fantastic work !
Yes, this is truly an amazing score! Literally every second of it is wonderful.
It's a pleasant listening experience indeed. It's a score well done. But it doesn't quite "grab" me, if you know what I mean. I have always had this problem with John's scores, and I'm not able to figure out why is that. They seem kinda... "oversaturated" to me. Too packed with instruments and pace changes to succesfully find a way and truly emerse myself in it. I don't know how else to put it.
Macejko, I totally get what you mean, as it is a problem I've often had with Powell's scores. But there is one solution: listen to them over, over and over again. His music is so rich and inventive that you can't fully appreciate it if you hear it only a few times. Starting from the day I've understood that fact, all his scores have been a blast :-)
Ds, I though that might be the case. I'll certainly try this method :)
Yeah, Powell's music is so fast and dense and rich, often the first couple of listens can be quite "exhausting" - plus, his themes can be quite twisty and long, and kind of take a while to take root in your mind. Once everything clicks, though...holy crap. :O
Edmund, I haven't heard something so true in a while... I completely agree with you.
I'm confused about Powell's status. Is he retiring from film scoring for good? Or just taking another break?
I guess he'll be doing what he loves to do. Let's bet he'll return in two years for HTTYD 3 :-)
He never "returned" and then "took another break"... He's just scoring what he wants (means not much)...
What exactly made him behave like this toward the film music industry ? Is it only because of his troubles with Greengrass ?
He said something like filmmusic had become boring because composers have less and less artistic freedom. Imo Greengrass had probably something to do with that perception.
I just wish his attitude would not be "film composers have no artistic freedom, so I'll stop being one", but rather "film composers have no artistic freedom, so I'll show these clotheared idiots how it's done". :p
I'd like it too, but when a director or producer isn't happy with a score, he can replace the composer...So I don't know if Powell would be able to fight the system :)
My God, what a brilliant score. Powell's sound always put a big smile on my face.
It's a bit early to have such talks, but there's big chance HTTYD2 get the Oscar for Best animation (judging by the stellar first reactions and the absence of Pixar this year). And it could very well be, at last, John Powell's big moment :-)
Unless it gets robbed by Trent Reznor once again? (And let's not forget Hans' Interstellar, but the mystery's so big that it's impossible to tell if that movie's going to be an Oscar frontrunner).
Toothless Found https://soundcloud.com/relativitymusicgroup/17-toothless-fou nd
Two New Alphas https://soundcloud.com/relativitymusicgroup/18-two-new-alpha s
Both sound really great, cant wait to hear the rest
Emotional and bombastic. Pure Powell!
OMG!! I will love this!
Maybe it is even better than what I expected. Soooo epic, powerful and emotional.
I REFUSE to listen to these, y'hear?!?
Well, a true 5 star score
The thing about this is that, there are no mickey-mousing, which is something very good, compared to previous Powell's animated efforts, or perhaps to recent Rio 2.
If i breakdown the theme, there 2 new themes in those 2 tracks, one for the alpha, one for the new world theme. The new word theme itself reminds me of Rio theme, Just Visiting and to some of its redention, Kfp2's peacock theme. The Alpha theme well, remind me of Rio 2 amazon theme. But nonetheless, the execution, orchestration, arrangement is just superb, amazing, make me forget all of that.
Edmund, I admire you. I wanted to do the same, but I couldn't resist :)
I'm gonna wait to see the film before listening to the score.
John Powell always sounds better that way.
About the absence of mickey-mousing, it's not surprising at all. The movie has been shown in Cannes and the reaction has been pretty positive, critics describing it as a very serious and emotional movie, that may even be too dark for children.
The whole score is pretty cool... I find it better than 1, but I'm not a HUGE fan of the first like everyone around...
Awesome stuff. Looking forward to this even more!
These are truly amazing; so good, that just by listening to those 3 tracks this score became one of my favorites. The score will be a masterpiece.
where did you hear the "whole score"? Is it streaming somewhere?
Hybrid hears things that we mere mortals can only dream of...
We mere mortals can always hear that album in a few weeks time. nothing to lament about. Hearing those positive words from Hybrid actually made me excited about this score for the first time.
I'm wandering through the desert. I have been for several days now, without a drop to drink or any shade. The inside of my throat feels like it's been rubbed raw with sandpaper. My tongue is dry and cracking, my skin peeling and raw, and if I had had anybody to talk to, my voice would have been an unintelligible croak.
I fall to my knees at the foot of an enormous sand dune. How can I possibly climb this one? And yet I must. I grit my teeth and stagger slowly, agonizingly up the hill, sliding back in the dry, dusty sand three steps for every four I take. It feels like I'm struggling for hours, but finally, I reach the top. I shade my eyes with my hand and blink the suddenly bright sun away. And then I see it.
An oasis? A well? No. Better.
A copy of How to Train Your Dragon 2, lying there in the sand.
And then you realize you have nothing to play it with and hope for water again..... ;)