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@Hybrid, what happened with Trevor? Why his scores are not listed in the page? ThanksIt is somewhat bizarre that you all are thinking directors actually want to work with Junkie. Surely, the only reason anyone hires him is that they want Zimmer who is not available. Yes, some may have heard Mad Max but it would be silly to think anyone actively wants a Junk score.Bob Badami (as Robert Badami), Melissa Muik, Mark Wherry (as Mark Andrew Wherry are music editors!<br><br>Booklet credits<br><br>Music Editor: Melissa Muik <br>Score Wrangler: Bob Badami<br>Digital Instrument Design: Mark WherryI don't think Junkie XL picks the shittest films to work on. It's just that art film directors won't choose him to score their films. Even in RCP, a lot of his colleagues are more well respected than he is. I would argue Benjamin Wallfisch is already more well regarded. Mad Max is an exception because of its unique setting and story line.Metro Expanded Score (1997) By Steve Porcaro & James Newton Howard<br><br>I found an interesting about unreleased tracks from the whole movie by one hour and 57 minutes, it's meant something missing in the movie. But I did edit some unreleased tracks from the movie, but not in OST It could be Expanded Score. I'm sure about that!<br><br>1. Main Title (1:57)<br>2. Sam's Death (1:31)<br>3. Keep You Out Of This (0:41)<br>4. Roper & Ronnie (0:51)<br>5. Jewelry Store Heist / That's Korda (1:46<br>6. First Chase (2:41)<br>7. Cable Car Pursuit (6:18)<br>8. He's Getting Away (0:21)<br>9. Car Garage Capture (0:51)<br>10. Dinner Only (1:06)<br>11. Intruder (3:14)<br>12. Ronnie Attack (4:41)<br>13. Love Theme (1:51)<br>14. Korda's Escape (1:49)<br>15. Is She Out There ? (0:26)<br>16. Ronnie Kidnapped / Korda's Demands / The Shipyard (3:16)<br>17. Final Chase (3:11)
"I do think he knows how to place emphasis on music as opposed to Joss Whedon or any of the other studio director who treats it like a byproduct."<br><br>I agree with you, except that Snyder and I have very different ideas about what makes good (film) music, and how to emphasize it. Ridley Scott is a somewhat similar case. Somehow he has gotten a ton of great music written for his movies over the years despite the fact that his musical instincts are really strange and misguided sometimes. At least Snyder doesn't butcher the scores he gets.<br><br>You're right that a director like Whedon doesn't seem to pay that much attention to how music can enhance his movie. But as someone who cares about film music 95% of the time as albums, not in film, I often find that a director who gets out of the way and just trusts the composer to do his/her thing is preferable to one who gets overly involved with the scoring process and has lots of ideas about how things should sound. That the subsequent scores end up buried or ineffective in their films is a shame, but the music at least tends to be good on its own terms.@mrzimmerfan<br>Oh no, I mean I love the score as a whole. I was just saying my personal highlights. Man of Steel emotionally resonated with me. But that’s cool that you like BVS, I personally just think Man of Steel is more engaging.@mpolonest: But that moments are simply moments, not the entire score, i prefer BvS, because there is a variety in it: Batman, Wonder Woman, Luthor, and is more complex than MoS (also i prefer the movie over MoS).<br><br>And yes, the theme for Superman is cool, but that dosen't make the entire score cool too.and some nice boob representation, too.@MrZimmerFan<br><br>Point Break is a lousy movie, but the score and guitar main theme isn't all that bad. Those 10 minutes on the soundtrack don't do it enough justice at all.<br><br>But again - this is Junkie doing action scoring....Miles better than any of his slow stuff. For me, anyway.
@Edmund <br>He’s definitely not my favorite director, but I do think he knows how to place emphasis on music as opposed to Joss Whedon or any of the other studio director who treats it like a byproduct. One of my biggest pet peeves is when directors/composers just use music as a sonic wallpaper, instead of letting it improve  and add to the scene. John Ottman is a great example. He can write great themes, but he tends to write underscore which adds nothing to the film. That’s why Zimmer, Williams, James Newton Howard, etc. are so good. They treat each moment with care."Zack Snyder, a director who actually understands music"<br><br>A matter of opinion, and not an opinion I share.@mrzimmerfan <br>I disagree with you there. I love Man of Steel, I think the themes and the overall bombastic nature of the score work perfectly. As for BVS, I’m not a huge fan honestly. There are some amazing highlights, but the tone of the score is so downbeat. It lacks the soaring elements of “Flight” or “What Are You Gonna Do...” and the action highlights of “Terraforming” or “Escape From Ship”. <br><br>To each their own though :-)For the themes mostly, this Batman and this Superman fit with the themes written by Zimmer. But the score by Elfman is miles better than MoS and BvS (for those two, BvS is much interesting and better than MoS, which is only good)<br><br>I genuinely wish we could hear Justice League, I would have loved to see what he brought to that under Zack Snyder, a director who actually understands music.
I still remember when Divergent was released, I was almost immediately dismissive of Junkie XL. Having only heard his remixes and his drum stuff for MoS/300 the first thing I expected was to hear an electronica album with percussion and sound design. So imagine my surprise when I heard several different themes, beautiful string adagios, vocals, and a pretty big variety of styles. And then Run All Night came out and blew me away. Ever since then I’ve been pretty supportive of his work, but I have to agree with everything you guys are saying.<br><br>The past two years have been pretty bad in terms of his ratio of good scores to bad. Black Mass and Brimstone, as I’ve mentioned, are solid scores that veer away from the usual JXL sound. But then we have Deadpool (abrasive), Distance Between Dreams (ok for a stand-alone album), Dark Tower (pretty fun in parts and just bland in others), and Tomb Raider (one of the most generic scores I’ve heard in recent memory). It’s frustrating to see a composer who obviously has talent and a diversity of skills write almost the same thing over and over. <br>And the weirdest thing is, his earlier scores are far more distinctive than his current ones. How did that happen?Nope he released All I see is you Soundtrack last year and it was a great soundtrack..<br><br>Are you sure you're a fan of him?<br><br>So far no project announced for this year but I think there will be at least one...What happened to Marc Streitenfeld? It's been a long time since there has been any involvement or a new score from him. Some years ago, I thought he's going to be the new upcoming star from the horizon of RCP. But then abruptly silence. Any reason or information?@Meta: Really Point Break was interesting?, it's only 10 minutes of music released, and i din't care about it, honestly, and the movie was really, really bad.<br><br>As for Tomb Raider, the music was serviciable in the movie, but i more comfortable with it than Point Break.I'm not sure JXL is picking the projects. In the case of Tomb Raider it seems like WB handed it to him when Joss Whedon asked them to replace him on Justice League. I guess they were annoyed because he had been a frequent collaborator, so giving him another blockbuster straightaway was a soft way of dealing with that.<br><br>Also yes poor JXL really seems pigeonholed. Even though, to be honest, the only style he's proven excellent so far is the rythmic stuff (see the highlights of Fury Road). His rare excursions to other styles have been quite bland to me, so the fact that he's always asked to do the same style isn't really a surprise. Directors/producters who want this specific sound will call JXL, and people who're making a comedy or romance won't even bother and will call another composer.

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  1. Dragon Racing (4:34)
  2. Together We Map The World (2:19)
  3. Hiccup The Chief - Drago's Coming (4:44)
  4. Toothless Lost (3:28)
  5. Should I Know You (1:56)
  6. Valka's Dragon Sanctuary (3:19)
  7. Losing Mom - Meet The Good Alpha (3:24)
  8. Meet Drago (4:26)
  9. Stoick Finds Beauty (2:33)
  10. Flying With Mother (2:49)
  11. For The Dancing And The Dreaming - Gerard Butler, Craig Ferguson & Mary Jane Wells (3:06)
  12. Battle Of The Bewilderbeast (6:26)
  13. Hiccup Confronts Drago (4:06)
  14. Stoick Saves Hiccup (2:23)
  15. Stoick's Ship (3:48)
  16. Alpha Comes To Berk (2:20)
  17. Toothless Found (3:46)
  18. Two New Alphas (6:06)
  19. Where No One Goes - Jónsi (2:44)
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Berkian Warrior reply Replies: 0 || 2016-03-16 03:26:00
July 2018 will be a happy and sad day for me. Happy because the dream I've had since 2010 (that httyd would become a trilogy) has come true, and sad because it will all be over. May John Continue to right scores for decades to come!

John Powell lover #1 reply Replies: 5 || 2016-02-18 17:25:37
John Powell’s music is so complex and full of themes. Here is a list of some of the themes from the first two movies alone:
The Viking theme,
the Flying theme,
Astrid’s theme,
Stoick’s theme,
Viking teens’ theme,
Evil dragon theme,
Valka’s theme,
Alphas’ theme,
Drago’s theme, Stoick and
Valka’s love theme,
the Exploring theme,
and Eret’s theme.
Not to mention the Toothless Peril theme, the lost and found theme,
the Dragon Vigilante theme, and a couple other nameless ones like the one heard in the beginning of track 16, ‘Dragon’s Den.’

Valka22016-02-18 17:30:08
There are even more themes than that. Can you list what tracks these themes appear in?

John Powell lover #12016-02-18 17:56:14
The Viking theme is heard at 00:28 of ‘This is Berk’, movie 1
the Flying theme, is heard in ‘Test Trive’ movie 1
Astrid’s theme is heard in ‘Romantic Flight’ movie 1
Stoick’s theme is heard in the beginning of ‘Ready the Ships’ movie 1
Viking teens’ theme is heard at 01:41 of ‘Battling the Green Death ‘ movie 1
Evil dragon theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Dragon Battle’ movie 1
Valka’s theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Should I know you?’ movie 2
Alphas’ theme is heard at 1:51 in ‘Losing Mom/Meet the good Alpha’ movie 2
Drago’s theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Meet Drago’ movie 2
Stoick and Valka’s love theme, is heard in the beginning of ‘Hiccup Confronts Drago’ movie 2
the Exploring theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Together we map the World’ movie 2
Eret’s theme is heard in the beginning of ‘Toothless Lost’ movie 2
The Toothless Peril theme is actually the ‘Flying Theme’ converted to a minor key
the lost and found theme is heard at 00:11 of ‘Toothless found’ and at 1:00 of ‘Toothless Lost’ movie 2
The Dragon Vigilante theme is heard in the beginning of ‘Flying with Mother’ movie 2

Edmund Meinerts2016-02-18 19:25:11
Good list, couple notes:

You're missing only the most important theme - the friendship ostinato! The one that's underneath the flying theme in "Test Drive", all throughout "Forbidden Friendship", turned into a melody at 0:50 of "Romantic Flight"'s the glue that holds the entire series together.

Also, I had never actually picked up on what you call "Valka's theme", but it definitely recurs at the beginning of "Valka's Dragon Sanctuary", so good catch. I always thought that what you call the "Dragon Vigilante Theme" was Valka's since it's used so much more often and in more emotional scenes with her and Hiccup.

And I'm pretty sure Eret's theme is just a variation on the exploring theme, by the way.

John Powell lover #12016-02-19 18:41:59
One Extra Note,
Notice that the Exploring theme is mostly heart when Hiccup is off exploring, ignoring his father's wish for him to become chief. It is also heard when he is with Valka, who is telling him what he wants to hear: That he was meant to be the dragon savior, and the peace keeper of the viking world.
But the last time that you here the Exploring theme is in the track 'Stoick saves Hiccup', and is never heard again after Hiccup puts away his childish ways and answers his father's call to become the chief. This decision is represented by the trumpets you here at 3:15 of 'Stoick's Ship'.

John Powell lover #12016-02-19 18:56:19
I can't wait to hear the new themes in the 3rd movie

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 17 || 2015-04-15 10:20:10
So there's a new poster going around for Joe Wright's PAN. Some versions of it have Dario Marianelli's name on it as expected...but others, apparently, have John Powell's instead.

Can you shed some light on this, Hybrid? Because Marianelli's a good composer and all, but if it is Powell...holy crap. :O

Edmund Meinerts2015-04-15 10:22:00
You can see the poster with Powell's name on it here:

www. ropeofsilicon .com/ movie/pan/ pan-poster-2/

...2015-04-15 15:13:45
This is fake.

Anonymous2015-04-15 17:54:41
Wishful thinking my friend. I doubt he's scoring anything any time soon. In fact, the way things are rolling, that third Dragon movie might well be his last effort for Hollywood.

Edmund Meinerts2015-04-16 00:15:50
People on the FSM forum are confirming it. Apparently the studio (not Joe Wright) rejected Marianelli's score for sounding too dark and "European".

I can believe that Marianelli might be rejected...but what I want to know is how the blue hell they got Powell, of all people, to step in and do the replacement?

I don't like score rejections on principle...but damn, when it's Powell who does the replacement it's hard for me to feel too upset about it. :D

Anonymous2015-04-16 07:37:48
I am feeling sorry for all those who were negatively affected by the recent waves of composer swaps but boy these news sure are as exciting as they are unexpected! Now if only Powell could score that Pixar Dinosaur movie along the way too...

Pablo Reyes2015-04-16 22:13:37
Is this a rumor, or is Powell actually in?

...2015-04-16 22:48:16
Powell is scoring it. It is listed on his page on!!!! Exciting!

Pablo Reyes2015-04-16 23:03:33
Holy... fuck yes!

Scorefan2015-04-18 02:53:00
@Edmund Meinerts
Too Dark And "European"? What the hell is wrong with producers nowadays?!!!!!!
Marianelli And Powell are great composers.

Pablo Reyes2015-04-18 03:36:47
All I can say is that I can't freaking wait!

aldan2015-04-19 04:42:44
Can you confirm this Hybrid?

With John Powell, nothing is confirmed. How in the world they can get mr. Powell? Does he want a new challenge of getting only 5 weeks to score a movie?

Anyway, i wont be surprised if this rejected rumour is true, Powell will back down once again, and the studio will seek another generic composer. I do really hope they will pick HGW or James Newton-"return to neverland"-Howard instead

Joshua2015-04-19 17:59:32
Powell's gonna have longer than 5 five weeks now, movie just got pushed back to October.

Anonymous2015-04-19 18:59:41
There's no news on that at all. Not on Google or IMDb. What's your source?

Edmund Meinerts2015-04-19 23:12:29
No official source yet, but both Dan Goldwasser and Ford A. Thaxton have confirmed it on Maintitles and FSM respectively.

Hybrid Soldier2015-04-19 23:14:53
It's official enough for me ! ;)

Joshua2015-04-21 19:27:35
Here ya go, your source now that its official.
h t t p:// -hackman-1201476156/

John Powell lover #12016-02-19 18:54:35
Let's hope it's official because I just bought the score. It's one of John Powell's best! Check it out.

Nathan Tarrant reply Replies: 6 || 2015-08-05 18:09:07
Didn't konw where else to post it...
On YouTube, you can already listen to two tracks from Powell's "Pan" score, "Cable Car" and "Ship Fight".

Russel2015-08-06 03:12:24
Yep, they're sourced from

Still not sure why the OP never told us.

Joshua2015-08-07 00:12:33
These are great, sounds like HTTYD mixed with Road to El Dorado. Very excited for this.

FORZA2015-08-07 19:14:54
That's exactly what I thought. You can also hear some "Mars Needs Moms" un there too.

aldan2015-08-08 03:50:10
Well, that whole theme, allthough still great, is all rehash from Powell's previous themes:

For the Pan theme,
The first phrase is actually a modif of HTTYD theme's last phrase
The second phrase has the same progression of Shrek theme
The third and last phrase has similar progression with Shrek The Third Arthur's theme.

When it is heard in its slow, epic style with that trumpet background going on, it all clearly progresses like Shrek Theme in "Rumpels Defeat"

This will somehow turn out like Mars Needs Moms, with a lot of rehash, but turn out to be one of Powell's better.

Still, disappointing though, as i expect a whole new theme. But the orchestration is still top notch

FORZA2015-08-08 08:36:42
I agree, but I still have very high hopes for the rest of the score! Can't wait!
I'm already addicted to the two sample tracks anyway hahaha :)

John Powell lover #12016-02-18 17:28:47
are you the samd FORZA with the Youtube channel?

Frank reply Replies: 0 || 2015-02-01 07:58:54
Congrats to John Powell for his 4th Annie Awards!

aldan reply Replies: 2 || 2014-11-14 09:30:28
FYC score:

Well, not that much as nearly all of the musics is in the original ost.

I dont know but i got this feeling that he'll be nominated in this year's oscar ( does he attending the oscar governors award mean anything?)

Well,btw, still, no doubt, this year's composer honor still goes to Mr. Desplat (the current imitation games theme is just superb)

Mikkel2014-11-14 09:33:41
Hans became his second oscar for interstellar :)

trent easton navarro2014-11-14 10:10:41
What you saying is that the winner of Best Score will get Hans?

But agreed aldan, Desplat wrote a great score for The Imitation Game. Would love to see him finally win an Oscar... Or according to Mikkel a Hans...

Zimson reply Replies: 0 || 2014-09-14 21:11:32
HTTYD 2 is the highest rated score of the decade among critics, at least according to this table. s
And still, I don't think the Academy will recognize JP's talent this year.

Notches for ab mentions reply Replies: 8 || 2014-06-15 13:10:52
Anyone watched the movie yet? I wasn't even a fan of the first one's soundtrack, but I gotta admit that this one killed it.

Edmund Meinerts2014-06-15 13:15:04 weren't a...a fan...of...


RealFfingMusic2014-06-15 15:54:01
You don't deserve to listen to another sound for the rest of your cold, tasteless, gruesome music life, Notches!!

(Giving CPR to Ed.)

aldan2014-06-15 16:06:08
idk, it's just me or just in my theatre, the score fits very well with scenes, but it's just poorly mixed, it's completely overwhelmed by other sounds, the one that's noticable enough is flying with mother scene. Meanwhile, just watched Maleficent, not only does the score fit the scene, it's also wonderfully mixed, and sometimes, it overwhelms the other sounds, i can even hear the-utter-unnoticeable timpani sound in the background.

For the movie itself, the first one is way better, for me

Ds2014-06-18 23:56:56
aldan, I just watched the movie, and I thought the score was musically perfect (we already knew that) but also perfectly mixed. In fact, it was extremely loud and over-the-top, a divine pleasure for all Powell fans. I think it is impossible not to notice how awesome, epic and moving this score is in the movie. It's "just" an animated movie but with his grand score and serious tone it really looks like an epic adventures movie. I'm gonna see it again, that's for sure!

Levraibond2014-07-05 20:44:11
Hi there!

I saw the movie last night, got to say a few good tracks are missing from the released album. Sometimes just a few notes nothing to important but the most beautiful cue missing for me is a piano version of the "test drive" theme. Very moving.
Different arrangements are to be noticed on several cues such as "Flying With Mother" and "Where no one Goes". The film mix of that song gives more power to the orchestra than what we car hear on the album ... Shame.
Overall, I found the score much more interesting in the film than on the album

Pablo Reyes2014-07-06 02:54:43
Yes, I noticed that as I was watching the film too.

Edmund Meinerts2014-07-07 03:10:44
A piano version of "Test Drive"? Are you sure it wasn't just a tracked in version of "Where's Hiccup?" from the first score?

JR2014-07-07 13:10:36
I saw the movie last night. Yes, the beginning of the cue is very similar to "Where's Hiccup" but then we can heard the theme from "Flying with Mother" in a piano version too (but suddenly cut…)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 15 || 2014-05-30 23:07:33
You asked for it, I finally deeply reworked JP's career on the site (Booklet contents...) and added a few hours of audio ! Enjoy !

RealFfingMusic2014-05-31 08:22:05
Gracias, Amigo.

Zimson2014-05-31 10:27:39
Thx a lot! Is "Po Finds The Truth" really John's work??

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-31 17:19:52
Yep... :)

Just added a player for the great (but unfortunately missing in action these days :() James McKee Smith ! :)

Working on the other Powell guy, Paul Mounsey...

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-31 18:53:38
And done ! :)

Edmund Meinerts2014-06-01 01:08:18
Thanks! This gives us a bit of additional composer info that we didn't have before. Like I always suspected "Hot Seat" from Paycheck might be James McKee Smith, but never knew for sure (great cue, though!).

isildur2014-06-01 10:35:14
Awesome. Thanks :)

NM2014-06-06 20:37:17
This is an interesting article. He talks about his upcoming oratorio and not working on certain kinds of films:

h ttp:// s/john-powell-interview-i-sold-myself-to-the-devil-just-a-bi t-9466955 .html

Mike2014-07-29 21:10:04
If Po Finds the Truth is really Powell (or mostly him) then, wow....did Zimmer do anything on KFP2? I always thought the middle at least sounded like 100% Hans. "A funny world we live in", to quote The Joker.... :P

NM2014-07-30 00:49:56
From what it sounds like, he wrote a sketch of the Shen theme. But you'd have to imagine if you're going to be credited as one of the primary composers on a score that you've done a significant amount of the legwork.

Mike2014-07-30 02:37:59
I guess he might have done Inner Peace as well judging by the crediting, but that's mostly a rehash of KFP1 material.

Edmund Meinerts2014-07-30 06:10:54
You would imagine that, NM...but then how do you explain scores like The Whole Wide World, Smilla's Sense of Snow, The Pledge, Invincible, Henri IV and Winter's Tale, where Zimmer's contribution was minimal or even completely nonexistent compared to the other composer?

Hybrid Soldier2014-07-30 06:36:22
Hans scored The Pledge more than anyone else... ;)

NM2014-07-30 07:28:34
@Edmund Yeah I know, I wonder as well. But I try not to leap to the conclusion that 'HZ did nothing'. But for example on Madagascar 3, there's not a single cue that's not credited to someone else, so I do wonder what he actually did there. But I can't imagine he just sits there, writes a few sketches for character ideas and then directs others (Lorne!) who actually score it while he sips some tea. Surely he must be involved with actually writing the cues to scene as well? Maybe Hybrid knows more.

Mike2014-07-30 15:19:03
NM, that formulates the question perfectly.

Mike2014-07-30 15:24:38
I think another way of putting it, too, might be....Hans isn't lazy or dishonest, right? I don't think so. It doesn't seem likely that he would just sip a cup of tea while his buddies do the leg work.

Paul reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-28 16:27:58
Does anybody know if the choir in Flying with Mother is signing anything in particular or is it just wordless singing?

NM reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-20 19:23:44
One thing that struck me is how dynamic, organic and meaty the orchestration on this one is compared to the first one.

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-15 21:44:52
I think I just reached the point of addiction to this soundtrack!

Hale reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-11 18:22:37
Wow!! So epic!! And the rehash of the old themes is perfect! :D

wintan29 reply Replies: 1 || 2014-06-11 13:51:38
Full soundtrack available for streaming :)

http ://

Anonymous2014-06-11 17:56:49
Yeah, in crap quality. The digital version is now available for purchase though
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badbu reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-11 17:14:25
amazing score!!! good job Powell!!!!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 19 || 2014-05-23 21:48:02
This score is utterly fantastic. Perfect balance of old and new themes. I was so worried Powell wouldn't be able to follow up on the amazing job he did on the first one, but I needn't have!

Pablo Reyes2014-05-23 21:52:41
Where did you listen to the whole score?

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 21:57:25
I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you.

Pablo Reyes2014-05-23 22:08:56
Tell me and kill me. All I need to die peacefully is to get a listen...

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 22:16:20
Put it this way...if I tell you, I'LL get killed.

Pablo Reyes2014-05-23 22:28:40
I understand... Can you at least tell us if you thought it was better than the first HTTYD?

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 22:38:26
Not quite, but it's very very close.

Macejko2014-05-23 22:52:04
I find it hard to truly believe you, Edmund. After all, Powell is to you what Djawadi is to me ;)

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-24 01:44:08
That's exactly why you SHOULD believe me. Nobody could have possibly had higher expectations for this score than I did, and that I'm not disappointed by it should say a lot. :p

Russel2014-05-24 01:54:50
Not really, it's a matter of opinion. My opinion about the score is ultimately more important than your opinion. (To me.) And of course your opinion is more important than everyone else's. (To you!)

Pablo Reyes2014-05-24 04:05:59
Just listened to it... Powell has been my favorite composer since I was 6 years old, and in my opinion, this and the first HTTYD are probably the most emotional and top-notch quality composed pieces of music I've ever and probably will ever hear. I'm very satisfied with this score and I haven't even listened to all of it yet! I'm typing this as I pre-order the album on Amazon... Can't wait until June 10th!

aldan2014-05-24 04:20:33
Had listened to all, this ranks high with John Powell's bests, and until now, the best score in 2014.

I love the original score, no one can beat the original, so the original is SLIGHTLY better. HTTYD 2 is a 5 star score, nonetheless.

Lambegue2014-05-25 14:51:30
I agree with you, Edmund. It's a truly fantastic work !

Prott2014-05-25 17:08:55
Yes, this is truly an amazing score! Literally every second of it is wonderful.

Macejko2014-05-27 19:06:07
It's a pleasant listening experience indeed. It's a score well done. But it doesn't quite "grab" me, if you know what I mean. I have always had this problem with John's scores, and I'm not able to figure out why is that. They seem kinda... "oversaturated" to me. Too packed with instruments and pace changes to succesfully find a way and truly emerse myself in it. I don't know how else to put it.

Ds2014-05-27 19:27:09
Macejko, I totally get what you mean, as it is a problem I've often had with Powell's scores. But there is one solution: listen to them over, over and over again. His music is so rich and inventive that you can't fully appreciate it if you hear it only a few times. Starting from the day I've understood that fact, all his scores have been a blast :-)

Macejko2014-05-27 21:04:55
Ds, I though that might be the case. I'll certainly try this method :)

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-27 23:58:12
Yeah, Powell's music is so fast and dense and rich, often the first couple of listens can be quite "exhausting" - plus, his themes can be quite twisty and long, and kind of take a while to take root in your mind. Once everything clicks, though...holy crap. :O

Pablo Reyes2014-05-28 23:34:37
Edmund, I haven't heard something so true in a while... I completely agree with you.

Lambegue2014-05-29 12:58:38
Very true indeed :)

Pablo Reyes reply Replies: 7 || 2014-05-24 22:37:01
I'm confused about Powell's status. Is he retiring from film scoring for good? Or just taking another break?

Ds2014-05-24 23:17:36
I guess he'll be doing what he loves to do. Let's bet he'll return in two years for HTTYD 3 :-)

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-24 23:26:08
He never "returned" and then "took another break"... He's just scoring what he wants (means not much)...

Lambegue2014-05-25 14:44:17
What exactly made him behave like this toward the film music industry ? Is it only because of his troubles with Greengrass ?

Ds2014-05-25 14:53:50
He said something like filmmusic had become boring because composers have less and less artistic freedom. Imo Greengrass had probably something to do with that perception.

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-25 20:29:28
I just wish his attitude would not be "film composers have no artistic freedom, so I'll stop being one", but rather "film composers have no artistic freedom, so I'll show these clotheared idiots how it's done". :p

Lambegue2014-05-25 20:56:53
I'd like it too, but when a director or producer isn't happy with a score, he can replace the composer...So I don't know if Powell would be able to fight the system :)

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-25 21:06:58
That's why he'll only do what he wants... lol

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-25 13:21:29
My God, what a brilliant score. Powell's sound always put a big smile on my face.

It's a bit early to have such talks, but there's big chance HTTYD2 get the Oscar for Best animation (judging by the stellar first reactions and the absence of Pixar this year). And it could very well be, at last, John Powell's big moment :-)

Unless it gets robbed by Trent Reznor once again? (And let's not forget Hans' Interstellar, but the mystery's so big that it's impossible to tell if that movie's going to be an Oscar frontrunner).

aldan reply Replies: 14 || 2014-05-17 05:36:51
2 tracks at Relativity Music's soundcloud channel

Toothless Found nd

Two New Alphas s

Both sound really great, cant wait to hear the rest

Ds2014-05-17 10:42:59
Emotional and bombastic. Pure Powell!

Zimson2014-05-17 10:55:19
OMG!! I will love this!

Lambegue2014-05-17 12:21:24
Maybe it is even better than what I expected. Soooo epic, powerful and emotional.

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-17 12:28:28
I REFUSE to listen to these, y'hear?!?

aldan2014-05-17 12:48:03
Well, a true 5 star score

The thing about this is that, there are no mickey-mousing, which is something very good, compared to previous Powell's animated efforts, or perhaps to recent Rio 2.

If i breakdown the theme, there 2 new themes in those 2 tracks, one for the alpha, one for the new world theme. The new word theme itself reminds me of Rio theme, Just Visiting and to some of its redention, Kfp2's peacock theme. The Alpha theme well, remind me of Rio 2 amazon theme. But nonetheless, the execution, orchestration, arrangement is just superb, amazing, make me forget all of that.

Lambegue2014-05-17 13:14:18
Edmund, I admire you. I wanted to do the same, but I couldn't resist :)

RealFfingMusic2014-05-17 14:03:34
I'm gonna wait to see the film before listening to the score.

John Powell always sounds better that way.

Ds2014-05-17 14:41:39
About the absence of mickey-mousing, it's not surprising at all. The movie has been shown in Cannes and the reaction has been pretty positive, critics describing it as a very serious and emotional movie, that may even be too dark for children.

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-17 15:31:16
The whole score is pretty cool... I find it better than 1, but I'm not a HUGE fan of the first like everyone around...

Mike2014-05-17 16:27:42
Awesome stuff. Looking forward to this even more!

Pablo Reyes2014-05-17 23:59:16
These are truly amazing; so good, that just by listening to those 3 tracks this score became one of my favorites. The score will be a masterpiece.

Anonymous2014-05-18 18:17:36
@Hybrid Soldier

where did you hear the "whole score"? Is it streaming somewhere?

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-18 20:10:26
Hybrid hears things that we mere mortals can only dream of...

Anonymous2014-05-19 11:27:56
We mere mortals can always hear that album in a few weeks time. nothing to lament about. Hearing those positive words from Hybrid actually made me excited about this score for the first time.

isildur reply Replies: 3 || 2014-05-17 17:11:05
Hybrid, why there are just two tracks from Powell's movies on the site? Is it coz of some kind of copyright issue or something?

Mike2014-05-17 17:13:53
I always just figured Hybrid had other things to do.... ;) He is (supposedly) human, after all.

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-17 17:14:56
LOL Absolutely not !

It's just I haven't taken the time to work on that page yet... Actually right now I'm finishing typing all the booklets (took nearly a week) of HGW, and now I'm gonna add the audio...

Next on the list will be JP... :P

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-17 17:18:40
And btw since I put audio on the site, 3 months, I've had no problem (yet...)...

I asked most of the composers, they were all OK, and no one messaged us to remove anything... Maybe it'll happen... So far so good... lol

Paul reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-17 16:45:45
I've become completely addicted to Where No One Goes, and the two released tracks sound so perfect. I don't remember the last time I was this excited and anxious to see a movie and hearing a score.

Bring it on!

Mike reply Replies: 4 || 2014-05-16 14:53:57
Some interesting new versions of the "This Is Berk" theme in here....First 5 min of the movie. h t t p://

Mike2014-05-16 14:55:34
It also appears there's a song with Jonsi that incorporates the Forbidden Friendship theme.....

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-16 22:13:14
Tracklist added ! ;)

Mike2014-05-16 22:42:47
Nice :D

Anonymous2014-05-17 12:29:00
No Dominic Lewis on this?

Kia reply Replies: 4 || 2014-05-16 08:31:19
I voted 5 already. Because I know this cannot disappoint.

I'm following my heart, screw your logic.

Zimson2014-05-16 09:32:49
Wow, congrats.

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-16 10:51:24
Me too, dammit!! >:D

Anonymous2014-05-16 12:07:07
I think if you let your expectations fly sky high you will be in for a huge let down, no matter how good the end result is.

Mike2014-05-17 00:13:14
I agree with Anonymous....I'm gonna refrain from voting for now. ;)

aldan reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-16 09:03:04
a 2 minute clip with John Powell's new theme:

http: //

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 3 || 2014-05-15 23:49:25
I'm wandering through the desert. I have been for several days now, without a drop to drink or any shade. The inside of my throat feels like it's been rubbed raw with sandpaper. My tongue is dry and cracking, my skin peeling and raw, and if I had had anybody to talk to, my voice would have been an unintelligible croak.

I fall to my knees at the foot of an enormous sand dune. How can I possibly climb this one? And yet I must. I grit my teeth and stagger slowly, agonizingly up the hill, sliding back in the dry, dusty sand three steps for every four I take. It feels like I'm struggling for hours, but finally, I reach the top. I shade my eyes with my hand and blink the suddenly bright sun away. And then I see it.

An oasis? A well? No. Better.

A copy of How to Train Your Dragon 2, lying there in the sand.

Mike2014-05-16 01:35:26
And then you realize you have nothing to play it with and hope for water again..... ;)

Pablo Reyes2014-05-16 06:32:54
I feel ya Edmund, I feel ya...
Can't wait!

Zimson2014-05-16 07:20:34
Bravo! I'd probably do the same to get a copy.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 3 || 2014-05-15 23:03:08
The famous sequel... :P

Hale2014-05-15 23:14:26
"The Return of the Dragon" or "How to Get out John Powell of the cave?" :D

Pablo Reyes2014-05-15 23:37:32
There are no words to explain how excited I am. Can't wait!

Mike2014-05-16 00:04:12
And so it begins.... :)© 2001-2017 OST 
How To Train Your Dragon 2 soundtrack - John Powell 2014