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I think what Lorne wrote for the last 30 min of the movie is way better than what ended in the movie... Lorne tried to elevate what was going on on screen, but it was probably too "bold" for the taste of production... They wanted to keep as "kow key" as possible but to me it made the ending of the film fall super flat...
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<br>In the end there isn't that much Lorne in the film (most of the "Moon" reel is Lorne though, that big 4 notes motif appearing during the moon landing and then takeoff). Ironically most of the droning you're all complaining about is not that much Lorne... lol
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<br>I really hope Lorne will put out as much music as possible, even all the unused parts, which are the more interesting ones !Taking in the movie now after having seen it. The cinematography is brilliant, and there are some interesting concepts that really will have you thinking long after walking out of the theater. Still, I couldn’t help but feel like the film dragged throughout. Coupled with the voiceover the movie has a very ‘Terence Malick-y’, “Thin Red Line” feel throughout.<br><br>I’m definitely not familiar with Max Richter so I can’t comment on what he might have written, but Balfe’s broad-chord style is pretty recognizable throughout. There are also some interesting electronic pieces used throughout, possibly might be Balfe but hard to say as of now. The rest of the music is pretty contemplative, ranging from slow/emotional string pieces to more ambient droning.Well, I heard only Balfe's "Prayer" and Richter's "To the stars"... All I can say is we need to wait for the full release, hear both composers and only then talk about who better coped with this. (and watch the movie of course)<br>I don't think Balfe is a bad composer. He does pretty good as an additional composer but not as a leading (mostly). The only soundtrack that I consider the best to date in his solo career is "M:I-Fallout" and "Assassin's Creed III". (imo)<br>Who knows what will be this time. But for now I like Richter's track more.I'm just waiting for Gemini Man, that (i hope) would be funI love that cue.
So I created a page for it, move away from Ghost In The Shell !! :PI wonder if this track is the one causing consternation: Nils Frahm: 'Says' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwwjy4slI8<br><br>It sounds a bit like what Richter and Balfe could produce, but it is much more artistic than Balfe and much more synth-based than Richter. Frahm is credited for additional music.Not writing negative comments about Balfe for the purpose of writing negative comments - ie. trolling - but for the fact that Balfe does not seem to take film composition seriously. Goldsmith had a similar pace in the 1990s that equates to contemporary Balfe, but he managed to produce fantastic scores like Air Force One in a few weeks (yes, with some help from McNeeely). Balfe simply does not seem to have those skills so he resorts to cliches and drony nonsense. I await to be proven wrong. That Balfe track is not half-bad so I do maintain a general sense of expectation for this.Not any more lame than the Balfe cueLorne says it will be released and insists it’s not a GITS situation.
That's been standard in certain cases, though considerably less nowadays with how complicated these situations have become.<br><br>Having heard both tracks posted, both give me little on their own. I'm sure they work better in the context of the film, and we might see better tracks unveiled eventually.He deserve better.Hans and Lorne like twins. Lorne has a very good personality. I still don't understand why some people are still writing bad comments to Lorne?Probably... lolSo is this how it’s gonna be? Official release for Richter and leaks by Balfe :(Lorne posted a track from Ad Astra on his YouTube channel
Thank you. And i suppose "Need You Busting My Balls - End Credits" title would correspond to ASCAP "Need You Busting My Balls" + "RUSH END CREDITS", while "Just Married" to "RUSH MAIN ON END"?That’s literally the best part of the score though. But it’s typical Richter (Miss Sloane, Black Mirror: Nosedive).Hunt Drunken Weirdness is barely a cue actually, it's just a patch up of sound designs by Mel...<br><br>Italian Party is a name I made up for a cue that's not used in the movie ! :)In ASCAP there is a cue "HUNT DRUNKEN WEIRDNESS" - is this by a chance an alias to "Italian Party", which is absent in ASCAP. Though there are different credits Zimmer/Wesson vs Zimmer/Klebe.https://open.spotify.com/ track/2UcUL4jytfVpW0jSXi3Ggi?si=ETyixI67R5u9AOU1YuClPw<br><br>very lame the cue from Max...
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How To Train Your Dragon 2
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  1. Dragon Racing (4:34)
  2. Together We Map The World (2:19)
  3. Hiccup The Chief - Drago's Coming (4:44)
  4. Toothless Lost (3:28)
  5. Should I Know You (1:56)
  6. Valka's Dragon Sanctuary (3:19)
  7. Losing Mom - Meet The Good Alpha (3:24)
  8. Meet Drago (4:26)
  9. Stoick Finds Beauty (2:33)
  10. Flying With Mother (2:49)
  11. For The Dancing And The Dreaming - Gerard Butler, Craig Ferguson & Mary Jane Wells (3:06)
  12. Battle Of The Bewilderbeast (6:26)
  13. Hiccup Confronts Drago (4:06)
  14. Stoick Saves Hiccup (2:23)
  15. Stoick's Ship (3:48)
  16. Alpha Comes To Berk (2:20)
  17. Toothless Found (3:46)
  18. Two New Alphas (6:06)
  19. Where No One Goes - Jónsi (2:44)
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Anonymous reply Replies: 5 || 2019-03-11 01:26:37
Anyone know what cues Mounsey and Willis helped out on?


Edmund Meinerts2019-03-11 08:49:07
Mounsey worked on Toothless Found for sure, because back when there were audio samples here that cue was on his page.


Mr Tweedy2019-03-11 10:19:55
Here are part of what they did (caution! original cue sheet titles and not album titles)

Paul Mounsey: Drago's Coming, Get'em You Son of Eret, Hiccup and Valka Bond, Toothless Comes Back

Anthony Willis: Eret Educates Hiccup


anon2019-03-11 21:05:11
Mounsey still has the cue up on his personal site along with other music he did. I also read somewhere that Paul Mounsey basically single-handedly did most of Kung Fu Panda 3 (he has a demo on his site).


Knight2019-03-11 21:53:59
I'm gonna call bullshit on the Kung Fu Panda one, that was a Lorne Balfe/Hans Zimmer score, and its very audible.


Mike2019-03-12 01:05:17
Also note that the Kung Fu Panda tracks on his site are not for Kung Fu Panda 3...

Paul reply Replies: 1 || 2018-06-14 23:05:44
I’m surprised nobody is talking about the expanded score that has leaked...!


Anonymous2018-06-15 00:25:48
from like.....4 years ago?

Iamtommie reply Replies: 5 || 2018-05-31 22:55:20
SPOILERS! for anybody who doesn't wants to know anything for HTTYD 3, but first trailer debutes next weeks.
And if you looked at the new poster you saw what I saw. Yeah, a female Toothless. I really hope we'll get a great new theme for her and the bond between her and Toothless. Already very exited for this movie and score.


Berkian Warrior2018-06-01 08:49:42
SPOILERS SPOILERS
Why the hell did they make it white? I mean, it's HTTYD so I'm sure they will pull it off... But I was afraid they would do something to that effect... Maybe give the female toothless blue eyes or something... And WOOPDIEDOO that's what they did. It's fine I just feel like it might be a little bit too predictable. Also HTTYD is infamous for putting the spoilers out before te movie is released


Berkian Warrior2018-06-01 08:51:48
Whatever happens the score will be good at least. I just hope the 3rd can maintain the 2nds darker tone


Berkian Warrior2018-06-05 22:48:38
Is anyone sure when the trailer date is?


Iamtommie2018-06-05 23:11:44
I think somewhere this weem


Nonore2018-06-06 01:42:25
It's thursday.

jewen reply Replies: 0 || 2018-04-19 15:55:44
Both scores are absolutely masterpieces, personally I prefer the second one. Outstanding.
This story deserves a perfect close also musically.

jewen reply Replies: 3 || 2018-04-18 10:39:08
Powell is Back!!!
-https://www.empireonline.com/movies/train-dragon-hidden-wor ld/train-dragon-3-hidden-world/-


Edmund Meinerts2018-04-18 10:45:13
Powell's not mentioned in that article at all...but I think we can assume he will indeed be back.


JBSO992018-04-18 23:11:26
Finally some news about this movie! I really hope Powell is involved because his scores for the first two moves are fantastic. I love them so much.


Hybrid Soldier2018-04-18 23:41:44
Of course he's involved !

Berkian Warrior reply Replies: 0 || 2016-03-16 03:26:00
July 2018 will be a happy and sad day for me. Happy because the dream I've had since 2010 (that httyd would become a trilogy) has come true, and sad because it will all be over. May John Continue to right scores for decades to come!

John Powell lover #1 reply Replies: 5 || 2016-02-18 17:25:37
John Powell’s music is so complex and full of themes. Here is a list of some of the themes from the first two movies alone:
The Viking theme,
the Flying theme,
Astrid’s theme,
Stoick’s theme,
Viking teens’ theme,
Evil dragon theme,
Valka’s theme,
Alphas’ theme,
Drago’s theme, Stoick and
Valka’s love theme,
the Exploring theme,
and Eret’s theme.
Not to mention the Toothless Peril theme, the lost and found theme,
the Dragon Vigilante theme, and a couple other nameless ones like the one heard in the beginning of track 16, ‘Dragon’s Den.’


Valka22016-02-18 17:30:08
There are even more themes than that. Can you list what tracks these themes appear in?


John Powell lover #12016-02-18 17:56:14
The Viking theme is heard at 00:28 of ‘This is Berk’, movie 1
the Flying theme, is heard in ‘Test Trive’ movie 1
Astrid’s theme is heard in ‘Romantic Flight’ movie 1
Stoick’s theme is heard in the beginning of ‘Ready the Ships’ movie 1
Viking teens’ theme is heard at 01:41 of ‘Battling the Green Death ‘ movie 1
Evil dragon theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Dragon Battle’ movie 1
Valka’s theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Should I know you?’ movie 2
Alphas’ theme is heard at 1:51 in ‘Losing Mom/Meet the good Alpha’ movie 2
Drago’s theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Meet Drago’ movie 2
Stoick and Valka’s love theme, is heard in the beginning of ‘Hiccup Confronts Drago’ movie 2
the Exploring theme is heard at the beginning of ‘Together we map the World’ movie 2
Eret’s theme is heard in the beginning of ‘Toothless Lost’ movie 2
The Toothless Peril theme is actually the ‘Flying Theme’ converted to a minor key
the lost and found theme is heard at 00:11 of ‘Toothless found’ and at 1:00 of ‘Toothless Lost’ movie 2
The Dragon Vigilante theme is heard in the beginning of ‘Flying with Mother’ movie 2


Edmund Meinerts2016-02-18 19:25:11
Good list, couple notes:

You're missing only the most important theme - the friendship ostinato! The one that's underneath the flying theme in "Test Drive", all throughout "Forbidden Friendship", turned into a melody at 0:50 of "Romantic Flight"...it's the glue that holds the entire series together.

Also, I had never actually picked up on what you call "Valka's theme", but it definitely recurs at the beginning of "Valka's Dragon Sanctuary", so good catch. I always thought that what you call the "Dragon Vigilante Theme" was Valka's since it's used so much more often and in more emotional scenes with her and Hiccup.

And I'm pretty sure Eret's theme is just a variation on the exploring theme, by the way.


John Powell lover #12016-02-19 18:41:59
One Extra Note,
Notice that the Exploring theme is mostly heart when Hiccup is off exploring, ignoring his father's wish for him to become chief. It is also heard when he is with Valka, who is telling him what he wants to hear: That he was meant to be the dragon savior, and the peace keeper of the viking world.
But the last time that you here the Exploring theme is in the track 'Stoick saves Hiccup', and is never heard again after Hiccup puts away his childish ways and answers his father's call to become the chief. This decision is represented by the trumpets you here at 3:15 of 'Stoick's Ship'.


John Powell lover #12016-02-19 18:56:19
I can't wait to hear the new themes in the 3rd movie

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 17 || 2015-04-15 10:20:10
So there's a new poster going around for Joe Wright's PAN. Some versions of it have Dario Marianelli's name on it as expected...but others, apparently, have John Powell's instead.

Can you shed some light on this, Hybrid? Because Marianelli's a good composer and all, but if it is Powell...holy crap. :O


Edmund Meinerts2015-04-15 10:22:00
You can see the poster with Powell's name on it here:

www. ropeofsilicon .com/ movie/pan/ pan-poster-2/


...2015-04-15 15:13:45
This is fake.


Anonymous2015-04-15 17:54:41
Wishful thinking my friend. I doubt he's scoring anything any time soon. In fact, the way things are rolling, that third Dragon movie might well be his last effort for Hollywood.


Edmund Meinerts2015-04-16 00:15:50
People on the FSM forum are confirming it. Apparently the studio (not Joe Wright) rejected Marianelli's score for sounding too dark and "European".

I can believe that Marianelli might be rejected...but what I want to know is how the blue hell they got Powell, of all people, to step in and do the replacement?

I don't like score rejections on principle...but damn, when it's Powell who does the replacement it's hard for me to feel too upset about it. :D


Anonymous2015-04-16 07:37:48
I am feeling sorry for all those who were negatively affected by the recent waves of composer swaps but boy these news sure are as exciting as they are unexpected! Now if only Powell could score that Pixar Dinosaur movie along the way too...


Pablo Reyes2015-04-16 22:13:37
Is this a rumor, or is Powell actually in?


...2015-04-16 22:48:16
Powell is scoring it. It is listed on his page on HZ.com!!!! Exciting!


Pablo Reyes2015-04-16 23:03:33
Holy... fuck yes!


Scorefan2015-04-18 02:53:00
@Edmund Meinerts
Too Dark And "European"? What the hell is wrong with producers nowadays?!!!!!!
Marianelli And Powell are great composers.


Pablo Reyes2015-04-18 03:36:47
All I can say is that I can't freaking wait!


aldan2015-04-19 04:42:44
Can you confirm this Hybrid?

With John Powell, nothing is confirmed. How in the world they can get mr. Powell? Does he want a new challenge of getting only 5 weeks to score a movie?

Anyway, i wont be surprised if this rejected rumour is true, Powell will back down once again, and the studio will seek another generic composer. I do really hope they will pick HGW or James Newton-"return to neverland"-Howard instead


Joshua2015-04-19 17:59:32
Powell's gonna have longer than 5 five weeks now, movie just got pushed back to October.


Anonymous2015-04-19 18:59:41
There's no news on that at all. Not on Google or IMDb. What's your source?


Edmund Meinerts2015-04-19 23:12:29
No official source yet, but both Dan Goldwasser and Ford A. Thaxton have confirmed it on Maintitles and FSM respectively.


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-19 23:14:53
It's official enough for me ! ;)


Joshua2015-04-21 19:27:35
Here ya go, your source now that its official.
h t t p://variety.com/2015/film/news/pan-release-date-october-hugh -hackman-1201476156/


John Powell lover #12016-02-19 18:54:35
Let's hope it's official because I just bought the score. It's one of John Powell's best! Check it out.

Nathan Tarrant reply Replies: 6 || 2015-08-05 18:09:07
Didn't konw where else to post it...
On YouTube, you can already listen to two tracks from Powell's "Pan" score, "Cable Car" and "Ship Fight".


Russel2015-08-06 03:12:24
Yep, they're sourced from PanMovie.com

Still not sure why the OP never told us.


Joshua2015-08-07 00:12:33
These are great, sounds like HTTYD mixed with Road to El Dorado. Very excited for this.


FORZA2015-08-07 19:14:54
That's exactly what I thought. You can also hear some "Mars Needs Moms" un there too.


aldan2015-08-08 03:50:10
Well, that whole theme, allthough still great, is all rehash from Powell's previous themes:

For the Pan theme,
The first phrase is actually a modif of HTTYD theme's last phrase
The second phrase has the same progression of Shrek theme
The third and last phrase has similar progression with Shrek The Third Arthur's theme.

When it is heard in its slow, epic style with that trumpet background going on, it all clearly progresses like Shrek Theme in "Rumpels Defeat"

This will somehow turn out like Mars Needs Moms, with a lot of rehash, but turn out to be one of Powell's better.

Still, disappointing though, as i expect a whole new theme. But the orchestration is still top notch


FORZA2015-08-08 08:36:42
I agree, but I still have very high hopes for the rest of the score! Can't wait!
I'm already addicted to the two sample tracks anyway hahaha :)


John Powell lover #12016-02-18 17:28:47
Hey FORZA,
are you the samd FORZA with the Youtube channel?

Frank reply Replies: 0 || 2015-02-01 07:58:54
Congrats to John Powell for his 4th Annie Awards!

aldan reply Replies: 2 || 2014-11-14 09:30:28
FYC score: www.dwaawards.com/score/

Well, not that much as nearly all of the musics is in the original ost.

I dont know but i got this feeling that he'll be nominated in this year's oscar ( does he attending the oscar governors award mean anything?)

Well,btw, still, no doubt, this year's composer honor still goes to Mr. Desplat (the current imitation games theme is just superb)


Mikkel2014-11-14 09:33:41
Hans became his second oscar for interstellar :)


trent easton navarro2014-11-14 10:10:41
What you saying is that the winner of Best Score will get Hans?

But agreed aldan, Desplat wrote a great score for The Imitation Game. Would love to see him finally win an Oscar... Or according to Mikkel a Hans...

Zimson reply Replies: 0 || 2014-09-14 21:11:32
HTTYD 2 is the highest rated score of the decade among critics, at least according to this table. s oundtrackgeek.com/v2/top-scores-critics-choice/
And still, I don't think the Academy will recognize JP's talent this year.

Notches for ab mentions reply Replies: 8 || 2014-06-15 13:10:52
Anyone watched the movie yet? I wasn't even a fan of the first one's soundtrack, but I gotta admit that this one killed it.


Edmund Meinerts2014-06-15 13:15:04
You...you weren't a...a fan...of...

*dies*


RealFfingMusic2014-06-15 15:54:01
You don't deserve to listen to another sound for the rest of your cold, tasteless, gruesome music life, Notches!!

(Giving CPR to Ed.)


aldan2014-06-15 16:06:08
idk, it's just me or just in my theatre, the score fits very well with scenes, but it's just poorly mixed, it's completely overwhelmed by other sounds, the one that's noticable enough is flying with mother scene. Meanwhile, just watched Maleficent, not only does the score fit the scene, it's also wonderfully mixed, and sometimes, it overwhelms the other sounds, i can even hear the-utter-unnoticeable timpani sound in the background.

For the movie itself, the first one is way better, for me


Ds2014-06-18 23:56:56
aldan, I just watched the movie, and I thought the score was musically perfect (we already knew that) but also perfectly mixed. In fact, it was extremely loud and over-the-top, a divine pleasure for all Powell fans. I think it is impossible not to notice how awesome, epic and moving this score is in the movie. It's "just" an animated movie but with his grand score and serious tone it really looks like an epic adventures movie. I'm gonna see it again, that's for sure!


Levraibond2014-07-05 20:44:11
Hi there!

I saw the movie last night, got to say a few good tracks are missing from the released album. Sometimes just a few notes nothing to important but the most beautiful cue missing for me is a piano version of the "test drive" theme. Very moving.
Different arrangements are to be noticed on several cues such as "Flying With Mother" and "Where no one Goes". The film mix of that song gives more power to the orchestra than what we car hear on the album ... Shame.
Overall, I found the score much more interesting in the film than on the album


Pablo Reyes2014-07-06 02:54:43
Yes, I noticed that as I was watching the film too.


Edmund Meinerts2014-07-07 03:10:44
A piano version of "Test Drive"? Are you sure it wasn't just a tracked in version of "Where's Hiccup?" from the first score?


JR2014-07-07 13:10:36
I saw the movie last night. Yes, the beginning of the cue is very similar to "Where's Hiccup" but then we can heard the theme from "Flying with Mother" in a piano version too (but suddenly cut…)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 15 || 2014-05-30 23:07:33
You asked for it, I finally deeply reworked JP's career on the site (Booklet contents...) and added a few hours of audio ! Enjoy !


RealFfingMusic2014-05-31 08:22:05
Gracias, Amigo.


Zimson2014-05-31 10:27:39
Thx a lot! Is "Po Finds The Truth" really John's work??


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-31 17:19:52
Yep... :)

Just added a player for the great (but unfortunately missing in action these days :() James McKee Smith ! :)

Working on the other Powell guy, Paul Mounsey...


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-31 18:53:38
And done ! :)


Edmund Meinerts2014-06-01 01:08:18
Thanks! This gives us a bit of additional composer info that we didn't have before. Like I always suspected "Hot Seat" from Paycheck might be James McKee Smith, but never knew for sure (great cue, though!).


isildur2014-06-01 10:35:14
Awesome. Thanks :)


NM2014-06-06 20:37:17
This is an interesting article. He talks about his upcoming oratorio and not working on certain kinds of films:

h ttp://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/classical/new s/john-powell-interview-i-sold-myself-to-the-devil-just-a-bi t-9466955 .html



Mike2014-07-29 21:10:04
If Po Finds the Truth is really Powell (or mostly him) then, wow....did Zimmer do anything on KFP2? I always thought the middle at least sounded like 100% Hans. "A funny world we live in", to quote The Joker.... :P


NM2014-07-30 00:49:56
From what it sounds like, he wrote a sketch of the Shen theme. But you'd have to imagine if you're going to be credited as one of the primary composers on a score that you've done a significant amount of the legwork.


Mike2014-07-30 02:37:59
I guess he might have done Inner Peace as well judging by the crediting, but that's mostly a rehash of KFP1 material.


Edmund Meinerts2014-07-30 06:10:54
You would imagine that, NM...but then how do you explain scores like The Whole Wide World, Smilla's Sense of Snow, The Pledge, Invincible, Henri IV and Winter's Tale, where Zimmer's contribution was minimal or even completely nonexistent compared to the other composer?


Hybrid Soldier2014-07-30 06:36:22
Hans scored The Pledge more than anyone else... ;)



NM2014-07-30 07:28:34
@Edmund Yeah I know, I wonder as well. But I try not to leap to the conclusion that 'HZ did nothing'. But for example on Madagascar 3, there's not a single cue that's not credited to someone else, so I do wonder what he actually did there. But I can't imagine he just sits there, writes a few sketches for character ideas and then directs others (Lorne!) who actually score it while he sips some tea. Surely he must be involved with actually writing the cues to scene as well? Maybe Hybrid knows more.


Mike2014-07-30 15:19:03
NM, that formulates the question perfectly.


Mike2014-07-30 15:24:38
I think another way of putting it, too, might be....Hans isn't lazy or dishonest, right? I don't think so. It doesn't seem likely that he would just sip a cup of tea while his buddies do the leg work.

Paul reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-28 16:27:58
Does anybody know if the choir in Flying with Mother is signing anything in particular or is it just wordless singing?

NM reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-20 19:23:44
One thing that struck me is how dynamic, organic and meaty the orchestration on this one is compared to the first one.

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-15 21:44:52
I think I just reached the point of addiction to this soundtrack!

Hale reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-11 18:22:37
Wow!! So epic!! And the rehash of the old themes is perfect! :D

wintan29 reply Replies: 1 || 2014-06-11 13:51:38
Full soundtrack available for streaming :)

http ://time.com/2847290/how-to-train-your-dragon-2-soundtrack/


Anonymous2014-06-11 17:56:49
Yeah, in crap quality. The digital version is now available for purchase though
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badbu reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-11 17:14:25
amazing score!!! good job Powell!!!!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 19 || 2014-05-23 21:48:02
This score is utterly fantastic. Perfect balance of old and new themes. I was so worried Powell wouldn't be able to follow up on the amazing job he did on the first one, but I needn't have!


Pablo Reyes2014-05-23 21:52:41
Where did you listen to the whole score?


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 21:57:25
I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you.


Pablo Reyes2014-05-23 22:08:56
Tell me and kill me. All I need to die peacefully is to get a listen...


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 22:16:20
Put it this way...if I tell you, I'LL get killed.


Pablo Reyes2014-05-23 22:28:40
I understand... Can you at least tell us if you thought it was better than the first HTTYD?


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-23 22:38:26
Not quite, but it's very very close.


Macejko2014-05-23 22:52:04
I find it hard to truly believe you, Edmund. After all, Powell is to you what Djawadi is to me ;)


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-24 01:44:08
That's exactly why you SHOULD believe me. Nobody could have possibly had higher expectations for this score than I did, and that I'm not disappointed by it should say a lot. :p


Russel2014-05-24 01:54:50
Not really, it's a matter of opinion. My opinion about the score is ultimately more important than your opinion. (To me.) And of course your opinion is more important than everyone else's. (To you!)


Pablo Reyes2014-05-24 04:05:59
Just listened to it... Powell has been my favorite composer since I was 6 years old, and in my opinion, this and the first HTTYD are probably the most emotional and top-notch quality composed pieces of music I've ever and probably will ever hear. I'm very satisfied with this score and I haven't even listened to all of it yet! I'm typing this as I pre-order the album on Amazon... Can't wait until June 10th!


aldan2014-05-24 04:20:33
Had listened to all, this ranks high with John Powell's bests, and until now, the best score in 2014.

I love the original score, no one can beat the original, so the original is SLIGHTLY better. HTTYD 2 is a 5 star score, nonetheless.


Lambegue2014-05-25 14:51:30
I agree with you, Edmund. It's a truly fantastic work !


Prott2014-05-25 17:08:55
Yes, this is truly an amazing score! Literally every second of it is wonderful.


Macejko2014-05-27 19:06:07
It's a pleasant listening experience indeed. It's a score well done. But it doesn't quite "grab" me, if you know what I mean. I have always had this problem with John's scores, and I'm not able to figure out why is that. They seem kinda... "oversaturated" to me. Too packed with instruments and pace changes to succesfully find a way and truly emerse myself in it. I don't know how else to put it.


Ds2014-05-27 19:27:09
Macejko, I totally get what you mean, as it is a problem I've often had with Powell's scores. But there is one solution: listen to them over, over and over again. His music is so rich and inventive that you can't fully appreciate it if you hear it only a few times. Starting from the day I've understood that fact, all his scores have been a blast :-)


Macejko2014-05-27 21:04:55
Ds, I though that might be the case. I'll certainly try this method :)


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-27 23:58:12
Yeah, Powell's music is so fast and dense and rich, often the first couple of listens can be quite "exhausting" - plus, his themes can be quite twisty and long, and kind of take a while to take root in your mind. Once everything clicks, though...holy crap. :O


Pablo Reyes2014-05-28 23:34:37
Edmund, I haven't heard something so true in a while... I completely agree with you.


Lambegue2014-05-29 12:58:38
Very true indeed :)

Pablo Reyes reply Replies: 7 || 2014-05-24 22:37:01
I'm confused about Powell's status. Is he retiring from film scoring for good? Or just taking another break?


Ds2014-05-24 23:17:36
I guess he'll be doing what he loves to do. Let's bet he'll return in two years for HTTYD 3 :-)


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-24 23:26:08
He never "returned" and then "took another break"... He's just scoring what he wants (means not much)...


Lambegue2014-05-25 14:44:17
What exactly made him behave like this toward the film music industry ? Is it only because of his troubles with Greengrass ?


Ds2014-05-25 14:53:50
He said something like filmmusic had become boring because composers have less and less artistic freedom. Imo Greengrass had probably something to do with that perception.


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-25 20:29:28
I just wish his attitude would not be "film composers have no artistic freedom, so I'll stop being one", but rather "film composers have no artistic freedom, so I'll show these clotheared idiots how it's done". :p


Lambegue2014-05-25 20:56:53
I'd like it too, but when a director or producer isn't happy with a score, he can replace the composer...So I don't know if Powell would be able to fight the system :)


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-25 21:06:58
That's why he'll only do what he wants... lol

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-25 13:21:29
My God, what a brilliant score. Powell's sound always put a big smile on my face.

It's a bit early to have such talks, but there's big chance HTTYD2 get the Oscar for Best animation (judging by the stellar first reactions and the absence of Pixar this year). And it could very well be, at last, John Powell's big moment :-)

Unless it gets robbed by Trent Reznor once again? (And let's not forget Hans' Interstellar, but the mystery's so big that it's impossible to tell if that movie's going to be an Oscar frontrunner).

aldan reply Replies: 14 || 2014-05-17 05:36:51
2 tracks at Relativity Music's soundcloud channel

Toothless Found
https://soundcloud.com/relativitymusicgroup/17-toothless-fou nd

Two New Alphas
https://soundcloud.com/relativitymusicgroup/18-two-new-alpha s

Both sound really great, cant wait to hear the rest


Ds2014-05-17 10:42:59
Emotional and bombastic. Pure Powell!


Zimson2014-05-17 10:55:19
OMG!! I will love this!


Lambegue2014-05-17 12:21:24
Maybe it is even better than what I expected. Soooo epic, powerful and emotional.


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-17 12:28:28
I REFUSE to listen to these, y'hear?!?


aldan2014-05-17 12:48:03
Well, a true 5 star score

The thing about this is that, there are no mickey-mousing, which is something very good, compared to previous Powell's animated efforts, or perhaps to recent Rio 2.

If i breakdown the theme, there 2 new themes in those 2 tracks, one for the alpha, one for the new world theme. The new word theme itself reminds me of Rio theme, Just Visiting and to some of its redention, Kfp2's peacock theme. The Alpha theme well, remind me of Rio 2 amazon theme. But nonetheless, the execution, orchestration, arrangement is just superb, amazing, make me forget all of that.


Lambegue2014-05-17 13:14:18
Edmund, I admire you. I wanted to do the same, but I couldn't resist :)


RealFfingMusic2014-05-17 14:03:34
I'm gonna wait to see the film before listening to the score.

John Powell always sounds better that way.


Ds2014-05-17 14:41:39
About the absence of mickey-mousing, it's not surprising at all. The movie has been shown in Cannes and the reaction has been pretty positive, critics describing it as a very serious and emotional movie, that may even be too dark for children.


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-17 15:31:16
The whole score is pretty cool... I find it better than 1, but I'm not a HUGE fan of the first like everyone around...


Mike2014-05-17 16:27:42
Awesome stuff. Looking forward to this even more!


Pablo Reyes2014-05-17 23:59:16
These are truly amazing; so good, that just by listening to those 3 tracks this score became one of my favorites. The score will be a masterpiece.


Anonymous2014-05-18 18:17:36
@Hybrid Soldier

where did you hear the "whole score"? Is it streaming somewhere?


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-18 20:10:26
Hybrid hears things that we mere mortals can only dream of...


Anonymous2014-05-19 11:27:56
We mere mortals can always hear that album in a few weeks time. nothing to lament about. Hearing those positive words from Hybrid actually made me excited about this score for the first time.

isildur reply Replies: 3 || 2014-05-17 17:11:05
Hybrid, why there are just two tracks from Powell's movies on the site? Is it coz of some kind of copyright issue or something?


Mike2014-05-17 17:13:53
I always just figured Hybrid had other things to do.... ;) He is (supposedly) human, after all.


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-17 17:14:56
LOL Absolutely not !

It's just I haven't taken the time to work on that page yet... Actually right now I'm finishing typing all the booklets (took nearly a week) of HGW, and now I'm gonna add the audio...

Next on the list will be JP... :P


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-17 17:18:40
And btw since I put audio on the site, 3 months, I've had no problem (yet...)...

I asked most of the composers, they were all OK, and no one messaged us to remove anything... Maybe it'll happen... So far so good... lol

Paul reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-17 16:45:45
I've become completely addicted to Where No One Goes, and the two released tracks sound so perfect. I don't remember the last time I was this excited and anxious to see a movie and hearing a score.

Bring it on!

Mike reply Replies: 4 || 2014-05-16 14:53:57
Some interesting new versions of the "This Is Berk" theme in here....First 5 min of the movie. h t t p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqk6rbhuKd0


Mike2014-05-16 14:55:34
It also appears there's a song with Jonsi that incorporates the Forbidden Friendship theme.....


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-16 22:13:14
Tracklist added ! ;)


Mike2014-05-16 22:42:47
Nice :D


Anonymous2014-05-17 12:29:00
No Dominic Lewis on this?

Kia reply Replies: 4 || 2014-05-16 08:31:19
I voted 5 already. Because I know this cannot disappoint.

I'm following my heart, screw your logic.

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Zimson2014-05-16 09:32:49
Wow, congrats.


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-16 10:51:24
Me too, dammit!! >:D


Anonymous2014-05-16 12:07:07
I think if you let your expectations fly sky high you will be in for a huge let down, no matter how good the end result is.


Mike2014-05-17 00:13:14
I agree with Anonymous....I'm gonna refrain from voting for now. ;)

aldan reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-16 09:03:04
a 2 minute clip with John Powell's new theme:

http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUYiJE-bNbI

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