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So Hybrid, care to tell us why you randomly deleted comments talking about the leaked recording sessions?Yes! That piano part is amazing! <br>„when charles and jean stand in front of the school“Saw the movie. Great score and it really fits the movie.<br><br>Missing stuff:<br>- 25 seconds of a piano version of Gap without the brass and bells<br>- a 30 second badass version of the main theme during the mageneto/jean helicopter stand off<br>- 1.5 minute end credits suite. Typical Zimmer to leave the best and most epic track and best main theme version off the album. I hope it will be on CD2, but knowing Zimmer the best tracks always remain unreleased. This is another escape from ship...after listening and listening...this score is truly amazing! i love it so much! i want the suites and ideas NOW! :DWhere can I find this?
been listening to this score for a week now and i am going to wait a little more before putting a comment on it here... but there's something else i have been saying for a while now. let's stop associating scores with movies and start seeing them as a work of art in their own rights. (albeit inspired by movies)<br><br>people are here complaining about the movie that it didn't speak to them. and then i have the feeling that they project their disappointment on the soundtrack. but both pieces of art co-exist and not depend on each other. i, for example, seldom watch any of these movies. but i have listened to their soundtracks and love them.<br><br>also i never asked for an extended CD before... but we need one for this one. it's very clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.<br><br>also i never asked for an extended CD before but we need one for DP. it's clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.There's nothing unique about those choirs, standard East European chorus stuff mixed with Johansson. Check out Debbie Wiseman's Warriors from 2000 and you'll get a much more elaborate version of this music.I cant say that this chorus reminds me of anything I have heard Zimmer done before. And I have played all his scores to death.I agree that Gap is the best track. My main complain with this score is that it feels that Zimmer composed it on autopilot. For me those choirs sounded too much to Electro's Theme in TASM. Is too standard and has very few remarkable moments. The movie itself lacks of personality and the score is part of that problem. I think they just wanted "dark" and hired Zimmer for making his dark ostitatos.I thought I read somewhere Armageddon was the last bay film that hgw was a part of<br>===============================<br><br><br>Well, Bay and HGW were not exactly best friends during Armageddon. Bay is very demanding and tough. HGW is also not a shy dude. He is an opinionated guy who stands his ground, as you can tell by his interviews. He reminds me of Mancina…..He's not afraid to speak up and have his opinion heard. And just like Mancina, his relationship with the Bay/Bruckheimer family seemed to be...….a bit complicated. Yet, he worked on Bad Boys 2 and Deja Vu. Now, it is possible - tho not likely - that Bay didn't even know that HGW did some work on BB2. Maybe it was just a favor for Steve and Trevor. Under the table, so to speak..... Personally, I don't believe that's the case. Whatever the truth, this is a great example of how different those composers are. Trevor and Steve work great with Bay/Bruckheimer and they always deliver great results. While composers like HGW and Mancina have problems with more demanding filmmakers. And apparently they don't even like action cinema. I don't necessary blame them, even though Mancina certainly didn't do himself any favors by trashing the genre and the people who back in the 90's gave him a shot to prove himself as a composer.
Love John Powell. But he is not even close to Williams. Williams made his mark on every genre of film scoring. He freaking turn a holocaust movie score into a masterpiece for the ages.<br><br>Today, that score would have been some generic sound design.<br><br>Powell is an incredibly gifted orchestral composer. But he doesn't have the dimensions of someone like Williams. <br><br>You fools, the tracklist was but a scam. The tracks simply wanted to EAT you.Yeah, while this does have a great deal more substance than most of the work Hans has done the past few years, I struggle to say it's a genuinely *good* score.<br><br>I mean, within the first minute I'm reminded of Dunkirk, then we get a pretty standard Zimmer/Balfe buildup we've heard a million times since Inception... and it doesn't get hugely better from there.<br><br>I will definitely give Zimmer credit for the unique and genuinely creative use of female choir in some of the cues, though.Not to disagree for its own sake, but I think Powell has been up there with the greatest film composers since the first HTTYD score. I just wish he'd take on more projects.Yeah, Jesus. This is a prime example of why I'm tempted to think John Powell is more talented than even Williams (yes, I went there).
There's so, so many great themes in the HTTYD scores. And he almost never lets a moment go by where he isn't stating or restating or developing one or more of them (although honestly that's true of a ton of Powell's scores and not an exclusive feature of HTTYD). You can never get bored listening to these, there's always something interesting around the next corner.I got confirmation HGW only wrote Haitian House Shootout (with the help of Mel Wesson). The same ideas were edited into the shorter cue Zoepound, so I'd say you can add this one to his credits.<br><br>Credits on IMDB mentions Paul Linford on the Main Titles.<br><br>Trevor Morris helped Jablonsky on the Ferrari Causeway Chase.<br>Jablonsky worked, for sure, on the Hallway and Helicopter Inserts.<br><br>100% sure Rabin worked on Tapia, Tapia Pissed Off, The Stuff, Wiretap Results, Ocean, Dead Bodies #2, Heart to Heart, Breaking Into Mortuary, Syd's Cover Is Blown, Tapia Has Syd (without Inserts), Prep for Tapia Sneak, Cuba Chase, Guantanamo (those tracks are on the Rabin only-bootleg).Hoping for the Rocketman score to get a release. Loved the score in the movie. Any updates on this ?Additionally, for anyone interested, I've managed to come up with a final list of themes from the series that I believe to be mostly accurate.<br><br>HTTYD 1: Hiccup & Toothless, The Friendship ostinato, Viking Theme, Viking "B" Theme, Dragons, Berk, The Dragon Tamer (Hiccup's unique qualities), Vikings & Dragons, Astrid<br><br>HTTYD 2: Loss, Exploration/Hiccup's Maturance, Drago, Hiccup & Valka, The Alpha, Stoick & Valka, The Chief<br><br>HTTYD 3: The Furies ostinato, Love, The Dragon Liberators, Moving On, The Hidden World, Toothless & The Light Fury, Grimmel, Dragon Trappers<br><br>A list more impressive than Star Wars, and with almost every new theme returning for the next film, while keeping most of the base themes. A masterful achievement by John Powell and his crew, as others have said!Just finished watching the movie, and while it's not much more than fine, it's sure as hell better than every other Star Wars movie that's come out since The Force Awakens (minus the ugly fucking visuals). <br><br>However the score is absolutely amazing. Powell's adaptation and development of the new Han Solo theme from Williams is flawless, the callbacks to other themes from the series are mostly appropriate (and good on him for not using the Force theme once!) and Powell's original material is fresh and exciting in a way that even Williams himself hasn't been able to pull off with the new films. <br><br>Powell might very well be up there with the greatest film composers if he continues to produce work like this from now on (which from HTTYD 3 seems very possible!)
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Transformers - Age Of Extinction (The EP)
Label: Paramount Pictures (Digital Download Only)
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  2. Tessa (5:45)
  3. Autobots Reunite (2:57)
  4. Lockdown (4:54)
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Lutz reply Replies: 8 || 2014-10-05 21:07:00
Transformers: Age Of Extinction (2014), Steve Jablonsky (CD)
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Transformers: Age Of Extinction (2014), Steve Jablonsky (Score-CD)
Auf 3000 Stück limitierte CD
Infos vom Label: "TRANSFORMERS AGE OF EXTINCTION! Clocking in at well over an hour, this full throttle, non-stop action score will take your breath away. Jablonsky has delivered his best Transformers score yet with Age of Extinction - a score filled action packed adrenaline pumping cues and touching melodies. Alternative rock band IMAGINE DRAGONS provide some back ground vocals on a number of tracks that lend a lyrical touch to this driving score.
PRODUCED BY STEVE JABLONSKY and RANDY SPENDLOVE
MASTERED BY PATRICIA SULLIVAN AT BERNIE GRUNDMAN MASTERING"

LLLCD 1311 LaLaLandRecords
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Edmund Meinerts2014-10-05 21:41:20
I know it's PR, but best Transformers score yet? I think it's the worst, personally...


Anonymous2014-10-05 22:17:08
This information is for the La-La Land CD release. You're posting in the EP not the OST


Score Seeker2014-11-04 01:23:39
Hi,

Does anybody know what happened to the score & Ep downloads on iTunes/Amazon? I looked there today to download them & they were gone on both sites. Any info/insights would be really helpful.
Thanks.


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-20 23:44:20
Steve posted an answer on FB, and I learned something today, even digital music is "limited" (crazy) :

"I’ve received a lot of questions on Facebook and Twitter asking why the TF4 soundtrack was removed from iTunes. Here’s the short-ish answer: The AFM (American Federation of Musicians) has rules regarding soundtrack releases and re-use fees. One option they offer is the option to produce and sell 14,999 units without any additional re-use fees. Once sales hit 15,000+ units, additional payments kick in. The number 15,000 was chosen I believe because a good selling soundtrack generally sells around 5k-10k units, so this option provides most union film productions the opportunity to release a soundtrack and sell up to 15k units without incurring any additional re-use costs.

Now because you guys are so awesome, the TF4 score hit 15,000 units really quickly. I honestly had no idea the score had been pulled down until fans started contacting me asking why the soundtrack had vanished from iTunes, only a couple months after the release of the film. I suspected the 15k limit was the reason, a little investigation proved that to be the case.
Some of you have asked another great question: why are TF1 and TF2 still available? For both of those scores, the people responsible for paying the additional re-use costs chose to go ahead and pay them. In other words they allowed sales to go beyond the 15k limit. Different people are in charge of TF3 and TF4, and they have chosen not to pay the additional costs, which is why neither TF3 or TF4 are available any longer. It’s strictly an economic decision. The additional re-use costs can and do add up to significant numbers, especially with scores like Transformers. These movies are huge with a ton of score, and I hire a lot of very talented musicians to perform, which results in even higher re-use costs if we go beyond the 15k limit.

I have had many many discussions about this topic, unfortunately it is out of my hands because I am not the one responsible for paying the re-use fees. For those interested in a physical TF4 CD I believe La La Land records has some unsigned copies left (sorry the signed ones are all gone). After these are gone, the TF4 score will no longer be available. The TF3 score is already gone. My hope is that we will figure out a way to re-release in the future, but for now this is the situation.

This topic is very close to my heart. It’s really hard to put so many months of work into a score and then hear from people all over the world that they would love to purchase your music but they cannot because it’s not available. These are good people looking to buy this music, asking me what happened where did it go, and I don’t have a good answer for them. I’m hoping with more discussion we can find better ways to address this issue. I do believe there are better ways, where everyone can benefit without fans being left out in the cold because they didn’t buy the score fast enough.
thanks

Steve"


Ds2014-11-21 00:17:40
I've read that too. It's really crazy :p

I'll make sure never to erase those 2 scores from my computer :D


Anonymous2014-11-21 08:15:25
I heard Zimmer once say they sometimes come to Europe to record a score. We don't have crazy rules like that here for re-use.

That's exactly why I don't put money on Spotify and all. The music can disppear overnight.


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-21 08:44:25
Any time they, any composer will record in Europe...


But if the film is a complete US production (like Disney movies, or Michael Bay movies), you have no choice but go with unions...


D-Fens2014-12-03 17:06:13
Better keep this on the DL then; HMV Digital in the UK are still selling downloads of both the EP and score album. Not sure if people outside the UK can download from HMV Digital, but it's probably worth a look, especially if you still want the EP tracks.

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2014-09-09 06:17:36
Autobots Reunite is a different versión from the movie. The film versión sounds more epic

RealFfingMusic reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-05 11:16:16
WTF happened to my question?

Okay, here it is again:
The cover art's the same as the EP. Hybrid, are you gonna change any or do you just put the official one?


Hybrid Soldier2014-07-05 12:58:24
Official OSTs : official covers... :)

D A R T H reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-04 17:09:21
Fulle Track listing ;-)

1. Decision
2. Best Thing That Ever Happened
3. I'm an Autobot
4. Optimus Is Alive
5. Cemetery Wind
6. His Name Is Shane and He Drives
7. Hacking the Drone
8. Transformium
9. Galvatron Is Online
10. Your Creators Want You Back
11. The Final Knight
12. Punch Hold Slide Repeat
13. The Presence of Megatron
14. Galvatron Is Active
15. Have Faith Prime
16. Hong Kong Chase
17. The Legend Exists
18. Dinobot Charge
19. That’s a Big Magnet
20. Drive Backwards
21. Honor to the End
22. Leave Planet Earth Alone
23. The Knight Ship


Everan2014-07-04 17:33:45
And the iTunes link!!
https: //itunes.apple.com/us/album/transformers-age-extinction/ id896006953

Bought and downloading right now!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 16 || 2014-07-01 18:56:51
Here it is... :P


Macejko2014-07-01 19:09:52
Awesome cues, Steve's still got it!


Ds2014-07-01 19:41:32
It's very nice, and I'm glad these tracks are only demos and not real album tracks, because they really sound like demos (especially the drums).

What I don't like is that maybe it means that the album isn't coming until a couple of weeks... If it was gonna be released in 2 days, I doubt Steve would've put this EP out... But I may be wrong :-)


MrZimmerFan2014-07-01 19:47:48
I really digging into Lockdown's theme, is so tremendous and darker


Adam2014-07-01 20:45:04
So glad this was released last night, I had it on repeat for hours.


jewen2014-07-01 21:08:12
By far Lokdown's theme is te best. But after the great job in Ender's Game last year, I was hoping an improve over the last Transformers movie. This material is miles ago of the notable "Dark of the Moon" score.
And yes I know this is only a sneak peek but my hopes of great music are gone. For example Autobots Reunite in my personal opinion lose against the original Autobots Theme.
And if your memory fail, check this epic track again.


Adam2014-07-01 22:23:38
I agree, original Autobot theme is better. But the new one will grow on me


David2014-07-01 23:08:36
Can anyone else hear a slight variation of "4m59 The Drop" from RoTF in "Hunted"?


Everan2014-07-01 23:51:29
Around what minute, David?

I'm loving these demos, and I think they sound brilliantly for being demos and all. Will hear the whole score tomorrow with the film, finally.


David2014-07-03 06:28:48
At around 5 seconds in, and various points from then on. No specific area, just kinda all around - and then it switches to 5m39a/7m55 from DotM


David2014-07-03 06:33:15
But, that's not before Imagine Dragons show up and do their thing, then the "Battle" theme from DotM (5m39a/7m55) shows up at about 4:31 ;)


Agent Smith2014-07-03 09:42:32
i can't understand why you people like "Lockdown" the most. It's that typical electro BS, which is so present thesedays. Zimmer lost his orientation totally because of this damn electro pop sound.

Everyone critizes him because of that, and now here, everyone loves this electro dump track. While Hunted, Tessa and Autobots Reunite are also electronical sounddesign, they also have melodical themes, which makes them beautiful.

i hope we don't have too many of these "lockdown" tracks in the final ost or in the future of scores. enough of it!


theeaglesfan0052014-07-03 14:28:15
Agent Smith, Lockdown is amazing and fits the character so well.

Have you even seen the film?


Edmund Meinerts2014-07-03 14:34:03
"Fits the character so well"? It's a Michael freaking Bay film. I could write a good score for a cardboard box too.


RealFfingMusic2014-07-03 14:38:22
The music fitting Bay's character is a hilarious notion, but you have to admit, it's pretty cool -- even to Jab's standards.


Edmund Meinerts2014-07-03 16:28:15
I'll admit no such thing. "Lockdown" (the second half at least) is exactly the kind of music Jablonsky's been pumping out lately that I HATE...abuse of the BWAAA, low ugly crackling beats, no melodic line whatsoever, unpleasant sound design (thanks for nothing, Skrillex). It's all the heinous attributes of Battleship all over again. Compare that with the clever, flexible choral theme/ostinato for the Decepticons in the first movie. Much better. More of THAT please, Steve.

The first half of the Lockdown cue is OK though.


RealFfingMusic2014-07-03 19:03:24
I should have said *the first half* instead of *it's*. My mistake. And yes, the beats painfully remind me of that God-awful Battleship.

Edmund said above just about the Decepticons theme from 2007.
Personally, I miss the loud and fast-varying beat-based style along with the melody of SOCCENT Attack more. IMHO, the overtness of melody was what set Jablonsky apart -- among the more electronic composers.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-03 09:58:52
I was liking it up until I got to whatever the shit was up with the last couple minutes of "Lockdown". They could have found a BAAAAWWWM that sounds a bit less like the parody BAAAWWWM everyone's been using for the last four years. It's kind of hard to take seriously anymore.

Other than that, though, I quite like this. The production values aren't great and I hope we'll see a step up for the actual album (Dark of the Moon had a similar synthy sound though, so I'm not super hopeful). But the themes themselves are pretty enjoyable. "Hunted" is a good climactic-type cue (although I could kind of do without Imagine Dragons; the vocal is well integrated but there's a reason I don't listen to music with lyrics), "Tessa" a very pleasant soft-rock track in the style of Divergent or Lone Survivor, and "Autobots Reunite" a cool, energetic new theme. Even the first half of "Lockdown" is enjoyable.

This could be Steve's first really decent score since Gears 3.


MrZimmerFan2014-07-03 10:12:29
Gears 3 is a very good score ;)

Hale reply Replies: 9 || 2014-07-02 12:33:18
After a first listening, i think this is good stuff. Hunted seems to be perfect with the movie climax. However, it's a pity that the end of the track sounds too trailerish! The add of "Imagine Dragons"' song is, by contrast, very well arranged.
Tessa is a great track, very spiritual. It's like a mix of "Lone Survivor" design with the voice of Imagine Dragons.
"Autobots Reunite" isn't the best "Transformers" theme but it has merit to bring new stuff to the franchise. By the way, the theme is similar to a theme of a song in 'Gears of Wars 3' (Gary Jules - Mad World).
And, to finish, Lockdown, copy-paste of some "Man of Steel" ambient cue. I think it will be well-adapted to the movie but I regret the way Steve had chosen in previous movies (mechanical choir, big brass and old Remote Control themes : remember "Bogey Approach" in TF1).

Finally,this EP leads to predict a good score with good new stuff and a beautiful collaboration with "Imagine Dragons". I hope Steve has integrated some reprise of "Arrival to Earth" in his score because it's simply the best track of TF, this is THE main theme of the franchise, in my opinion. The theme you are waiting to listen and when it appears, it's always the best part!!

Ps - sorry for my approximative english! :D


jewen2014-07-02 12:52:47
Yes, I feel the same when I listen Lockdown many times more. Very similar sound like "DNA" track in MoS score.

Steve needs find his own sound, because many times sound like a regular clon of Zimmer. His career is literaly very short, and we hope an evolution, but for this he must be join with a great filmaker that helps him to mature and grow up.
It's my humble opinion of course.


MrZimmerFan2014-07-02 13:10:18
The original theme of Autobots is in the movie ;)


Hale2014-07-02 15:42:30
And "Arrival to Earth" theme is in the movie, Mr ZimmerFan?


theeaglesfan0052014-07-02 16:46:55
MrZimmerFan, that cue should be called "The Legend Exists" ;)


MrZimmerFan2014-07-02 18:34:31
@Hale: Well, Arrival to Earth is a variation from the Autobots' theme, but isn't in the movie is that form, but the Autobot's theme is in the movie, like eaglesfans says ;)


Kingstyn2014-07-02 19:19:39
I agree with the MoS. I kept thinking of DNA when I was listening to Lockdown.


Brent2014-07-03 00:20:48
It seems like Lockdown's theme has drums inspired by Revenge of the Fallen, synths inspired by Man of Steel and sound effects from Battleship. Nonetheless, it's still a fantastic cue.


Hal02014-07-03 00:25:47
Or perhaps it's just Jablonsky's style


MacArthur2014-07-03 03:52:41
I like the song. all of them are great.

theeaglesfan005 reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-02 16:42:55
MrZimmerFan, that cue should be called "The Legend Exists" ;)


theeaglesfan0052014-07-02 16:47:18
whoops... i thought i replied on the other topic lol

Geofcraze634 reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-02 06:56:04
Yes, it is finally here. I have been looking for it. :D

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