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<br>"Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty."<br><br>Blackwood might want to have a word with you.Too many songs! But at least there is 15 tracks of score.<br><br>BTW, I don't think Djawadi is able just to do themes. His score in GoT Season 7 shows that he is able to do action tracks very well. Also, in GoT Season 6, he shows that he is able to have many themes and develop them in many different ways.Meta your comment is based on smoke...<br><br><br>Do you have any idea of what Hans & Elfman's relation is ? How many scores Danny mixed at Remote Control ? That when Hans was writing Batman Begins, Danny was in the next room and Hans invited him to check what he was doing ? How many people from RCP Elfman recruited to help him ?lol it's too funny the guy even spent the time of typing all this...<br><br>Some people apparently have very boring lives on this planet !These comments by “Balfe” are comical.god knows where such venom comes from . Maybe an ex employee probably.he was correct on one point .He is indeed a trailer composer.He just did the mission impossible trailer!!!
LOL. I guess this "Balfe" guy is one of those trolls from Stop RCP group.Many benevolent saviours explaining the error of our music tastes have surfaced recently, haven't they?Eh, Mr. Ellipsis, I have to take issue with your appeal to popularity. Justin Bieber sells millions of records. That doesn't make his music good. Last year's piece of crap pointless Beauty and the Beast remake made a frankly terrifying amount of money at the box office. Doesn't stop it being a piece of crap.Guys, I know a lot of you probably think I'm an overly critical snob, but next time you do, just remember this guy and realize how much worse I could be. :pBalfe is not a composer, but still he gets to compose dozens of films and shows every single year, wow. He must be doing something good if he is on of the most busiest composers out there, don´t you think? Or you want to tell me that every producer, director or whoever hires him is deaf? Do you know how many films had to be re-scored by Balfe in the past few years? <br><br>
Why you feed the troll?<br><br>Wrong.<br><br>1. Wallfish is a very fine composer, period. Hans is a synth guy.<br><br>2. If Hans wasn't concern about BR he wouldn't do it.<br><br>3. Slavery was abolished 150 years ago. Hans choose to did it and agreed to involve Wallfish.<br><br>4. Maybe true, but it wasn't the thought of Villeneuve.here we go again:<br>Why Hans Zimmer Got The Job You Wanted (And You Didn’t)<br>https://behindtheaudio.com/2013/07/hans-zimmer/Hey you guys.<br><br>Balfe is a trailer composer not someone who composes real scores. He helps Hans out on his projects and occasionally may have a good idea. He is not an artist, simple as that.<br><br>Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty. The epitome of that is Terminator Genisys that even fans of the franchise found embarassing (and that is for a series based on synth scores). The samples are especially abhorrent<br><br>How he climbed to compose music for real films is a mystery. Go back to one of his earliest scores, the 2009 'score' for Ironclad, to find how utterly disappointing his work has been all the way throughout his career.<br><br>Balfe is a hack. He will never be considered a real composer. The industry knows Hans is pushing him and once that attention goes somewhere else, as it does with Hans frequently, Balfe will be immediately forgotten. Tell me - who actually wants a Lorne Balfe score for their film!!<br><br>You rapid fans supporting his work will be laughed at as being idiotic symbiotic followers. Get a fragging grip.<br><br>Balfe is not a composer. <br><br><br>This score is probably the largest failure of Zimmer's career - these would have been his objectives - think about it:<br><br>1. Enhancing the work of Vangelis for a project he has always admired.<br>2. The chance to work with an absolutely open palette of sounds<br>3. The opportunity to truly reinvent not only film music but MUSIC.<br>4. Ability to work with Denis Villeneuve, a man who gets scores nominated for the fact that they are innovative.<br><br>How did Hans fail here?<br><br>1. Wallfisch, a very fine composer is not a synth guy.<br><br>2. Hans does not give a shit anymore, seriously.<br><br>3. An imposed composer on a passion project rarely works<br><br>4. Johannson's work on Arrival is so beyond Zimmer's abilities that he had to go secure.
This score is probably the largest failure of Zimmer's career - these would have been his objectives - think about it:<br><br>1. Enhancing the work of Vangelis for a project he has always admired.<br>2. The chance to work with an absolutely open palette of sounds<br>3. The opportunity to truly reinvent not only film music but MUSIC.<br>4. Ability to work with Denis Villeneuve, a man who gets scores nominated for the fact that they are innovative.<br><br>How did Hans fail here? <br><br>1. Wallfisch, a very fine composer is not a synth guy. <br><br>2. Hans does not give a shit anymore, seriously.<br><br>3. An imposed composer on a passion project rarely works<br><br>4. Johannson's work on Arrival is so beyond Zimmer's abilities that he had to go secure. <br><br><br>Dunkirk is a sound experiment and not a score. It is rather sad to see a fine composer like Benjamin Wallfisch deal with this nationalistic nonsense.It would be very interesting to get a better sense of what exactly Zanelli's role in the franchise is. He is a very capable composer but his work on 5 was utter scheisse. But that may just be what the franchise calls for. How does the supposedly precarious Hans put his name on all this shit.I would not be surprised if this was done by Balfe finally trying out his real compositional skills outside of him just acting as Hans' copy assistant. Everything that Balfe has done on his own to date is abysmal (okay The Lego Batman movie had some flair but that was probably done by the next generation of assistants). <br><br>Please go back to Ironclad and listen to Balfe before he was HBalfe, to hear his skills. Not very good, right? The man is an arranger not a composer.<br><br>This score will be utterly crap or it will sound like Tron and Transformers. <br><br>Shame as Del Toro and Steven Knight work with real composers like Max Richter who would have excelled here.Instead of concerning ourselves with Sia, we have to be worried about Djawadi. The man has a knick for a simple tv tune. But anything outside of that sounds like a youtube fanvideo. The incidental score for Game of Thrones, especially the wall scenes, is terrible and amateurish. <br><br>All I can think is that the producers must have been pressed with time and had to go with the casio synth nonsense Djawadi presented them with. It is the worst example of scoring for a major franchise. <br><br>Again, Dwajadi does well with his choral bits but he is not a composer, more a theme tune man. Who Wants to be a Millionare would serve him better than a complex franchise. <br><br>Simultaneously, the Paint it Black material from Westworld is outstanding. But was this done by Djawadi or a much more talented orchestrator - can we look into this as it sounds nothing like his work
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Transformers - Age Of Extinction (The EP)
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Lutz reply Replies: 8 || 2014-10-05 21:07:00
Transformers: Age Of Extinction (2014), Steve Jablonsky (CD)
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Transformers: Age Of Extinction (2014), Steve Jablonsky (Score-CD)
Auf 3000 Stück limitierte CD
Infos vom Label: "TRANSFORMERS AGE OF EXTINCTION! Clocking in at well over an hour, this full throttle, non-stop action score will take your breath away. Jablonsky has delivered his best Transformers score yet with Age of Extinction - a score filled action packed adrenaline pumping cues and touching melodies. Alternative rock band IMAGINE DRAGONS provide some back ground vocals on a number of tracks that lend a lyrical touch to this driving score.
PRODUCED BY STEVE JABLONSKY and RANDY SPENDLOVE
MASTERED BY PATRICIA SULLIVAN AT BERNIE GRUNDMAN MASTERING"

LLLCD 1311 LaLaLandRecords
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Edmund Meinerts2014-10-05 21:41:20
I know it's PR, but best Transformers score yet? I think it's the worst, personally...


Anonymous2014-10-05 22:17:08
This information is for the La-La Land CD release. You're posting in the EP not the OST


Score Seeker2014-11-04 01:23:39
Hi,

Does anybody know what happened to the score & Ep downloads on iTunes/Amazon? I looked there today to download them & they were gone on both sites. Any info/insights would be really helpful.
Thanks.


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-20 23:44:20
Steve posted an answer on FB, and I learned something today, even digital music is "limited" (crazy) :

"I’ve received a lot of questions on Facebook and Twitter asking why the TF4 soundtrack was removed from iTunes. Here’s the short-ish answer: The AFM (American Federation of Musicians) has rules regarding soundtrack releases and re-use fees. One option they offer is the option to produce and sell 14,999 units without any additional re-use fees. Once sales hit 15,000+ units, additional payments kick in. The number 15,000 was chosen I believe because a good selling soundtrack generally sells around 5k-10k units, so this option provides most union film productions the opportunity to release a soundtrack and sell up to 15k units without incurring any additional re-use costs.

Now because you guys are so awesome, the TF4 score hit 15,000 units really quickly. I honestly had no idea the score had been pulled down until fans started contacting me asking why the soundtrack had vanished from iTunes, only a couple months after the release of the film. I suspected the 15k limit was the reason, a little investigation proved that to be the case.
Some of you have asked another great question: why are TF1 and TF2 still available? For both of those scores, the people responsible for paying the additional re-use costs chose to go ahead and pay them. In other words they allowed sales to go beyond the 15k limit. Different people are in charge of TF3 and TF4, and they have chosen not to pay the additional costs, which is why neither TF3 or TF4 are available any longer. It’s strictly an economic decision. The additional re-use costs can and do add up to significant numbers, especially with scores like Transformers. These movies are huge with a ton of score, and I hire a lot of very talented musicians to perform, which results in even higher re-use costs if we go beyond the 15k limit.

I have had many many discussions about this topic, unfortunately it is out of my hands because I am not the one responsible for paying the re-use fees. For those interested in a physical TF4 CD I believe La La Land records has some unsigned copies left (sorry the signed ones are all gone). After these are gone, the TF4 score will no longer be available. The TF3 score is already gone. My hope is that we will figure out a way to re-release in the future, but for now this is the situation.

This topic is very close to my heart. It’s really hard to put so many months of work into a score and then hear from people all over the world that they would love to purchase your music but they cannot because it’s not available. These are good people looking to buy this music, asking me what happened where did it go, and I don’t have a good answer for them. I’m hoping with more discussion we can find better ways to address this issue. I do believe there are better ways, where everyone can benefit without fans being left out in the cold because they didn’t buy the score fast enough.
thanks

Steve"


Ds2014-11-21 00:17:40
I've read that too. It's really crazy :p

I'll make sure never to erase those 2 scores from my computer :D


Anonymous2014-11-21 08:15:25
I heard Zimmer once say they sometimes come to Europe to record a score. We don't have crazy rules like that here for re-use.

That's exactly why I don't put money on Spotify and all. The music can disppear overnight.


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-21 08:44:25
Any time they, any composer will record in Europe...


But if the film is a complete US production (like Disney movies, or Michael Bay movies), you have no choice but go with unions...


D-Fens2014-12-03 17:06:13
Better keep this on the DL then; HMV Digital in the UK are still selling downloads of both the EP and score album. Not sure if people outside the UK can download from HMV Digital, but it's probably worth a look, especially if you still want the EP tracks.

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2014-09-09 06:17:36
Autobots Reunite is a different versión from the movie. The film versión sounds more epic

RealFfingMusic reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-05 11:16:16
WTF happened to my question?

Okay, here it is again:
The cover art's the same as the EP. Hybrid, are you gonna change any or do you just put the official one?


Hybrid Soldier2014-07-05 12:58:24
Official OSTs : official covers... :)

D A R T H reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-04 17:09:21
Fulle Track listing ;-)

1. Decision
2. Best Thing That Ever Happened
3. I'm an Autobot
4. Optimus Is Alive
5. Cemetery Wind
6. His Name Is Shane and He Drives
7. Hacking the Drone
8. Transformium
9. Galvatron Is Online
10. Your Creators Want You Back
11. The Final Knight
12. Punch Hold Slide Repeat
13. The Presence of Megatron
14. Galvatron Is Active
15. Have Faith Prime
16. Hong Kong Chase
17. The Legend Exists
18. Dinobot Charge
19. That’s a Big Magnet
20. Drive Backwards
21. Honor to the End
22. Leave Planet Earth Alone
23. The Knight Ship


Everan2014-07-04 17:33:45
And the iTunes link!!
https: //itunes.apple.com/us/album/transformers-age-extinction/ id896006953

Bought and downloading right now!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 16 || 2014-07-01 18:56:51
Here it is... :P


Macejko2014-07-01 19:09:52
Awesome cues, Steve's still got it!


Ds2014-07-01 19:41:32
It's very nice, and I'm glad these tracks are only demos and not real album tracks, because they really sound like demos (especially the drums).

What I don't like is that maybe it means that the album isn't coming until a couple of weeks... If it was gonna be released in 2 days, I doubt Steve would've put this EP out... But I may be wrong :-)


MrZimmerFan2014-07-01 19:47:48
I really digging into Lockdown's theme, is so tremendous and darker


Adam2014-07-01 20:45:04
So glad this was released last night, I had it on repeat for hours.


jewen2014-07-01 21:08:12
By far Lokdown's theme is te best. But after the great job in Ender's Game last year, I was hoping an improve over the last Transformers movie. This material is miles ago of the notable "Dark of the Moon" score.
And yes I know this is only a sneak peek but my hopes of great music are gone. For example Autobots Reunite in my personal opinion lose against the original Autobots Theme.
And if your memory fail, check this epic track again.


Adam2014-07-01 22:23:38
I agree, original Autobot theme is better. But the new one will grow on me


David2014-07-01 23:08:36
Can anyone else hear a slight variation of "4m59 The Drop" from RoTF in "Hunted"?


Everan2014-07-01 23:51:29
Around what minute, David?

I'm loving these demos, and I think they sound brilliantly for being demos and all. Will hear the whole score tomorrow with the film, finally.


David2014-07-03 06:28:48
At around 5 seconds in, and various points from then on. No specific area, just kinda all around - and then it switches to 5m39a/7m55 from DotM


David2014-07-03 06:33:15
But, that's not before Imagine Dragons show up and do their thing, then the "Battle" theme from DotM (5m39a/7m55) shows up at about 4:31 ;)


Agent Smith2014-07-03 09:42:32
i can't understand why you people like "Lockdown" the most. It's that typical electro BS, which is so present thesedays. Zimmer lost his orientation totally because of this damn electro pop sound.

Everyone critizes him because of that, and now here, everyone loves this electro dump track. While Hunted, Tessa and Autobots Reunite are also electronical sounddesign, they also have melodical themes, which makes them beautiful.

i hope we don't have too many of these "lockdown" tracks in the final ost or in the future of scores. enough of it!


theeaglesfan0052014-07-03 14:28:15
Agent Smith, Lockdown is amazing and fits the character so well.

Have you even seen the film?


Edmund Meinerts2014-07-03 14:34:03
"Fits the character so well"? It's a Michael freaking Bay film. I could write a good score for a cardboard box too.


RealFfingMusic2014-07-03 14:38:22
The music fitting Bay's character is a hilarious notion, but you have to admit, it's pretty cool -- even to Jab's standards.


Edmund Meinerts2014-07-03 16:28:15
I'll admit no such thing. "Lockdown" (the second half at least) is exactly the kind of music Jablonsky's been pumping out lately that I HATE...abuse of the BWAAA, low ugly crackling beats, no melodic line whatsoever, unpleasant sound design (thanks for nothing, Skrillex). It's all the heinous attributes of Battleship all over again. Compare that with the clever, flexible choral theme/ostinato for the Decepticons in the first movie. Much better. More of THAT please, Steve.

The first half of the Lockdown cue is OK though.


RealFfingMusic2014-07-03 19:03:24
I should have said *the first half* instead of *it's*. My mistake. And yes, the beats painfully remind me of that God-awful Battleship.

Edmund said above just about the Decepticons theme from 2007.
Personally, I miss the loud and fast-varying beat-based style along with the melody of SOCCENT Attack more. IMHO, the overtness of melody was what set Jablonsky apart -- among the more electronic composers.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-03 09:58:52
I was liking it up until I got to whatever the shit was up with the last couple minutes of "Lockdown". They could have found a BAAAAWWWM that sounds a bit less like the parody BAAAWWWM everyone's been using for the last four years. It's kind of hard to take seriously anymore.

Other than that, though, I quite like this. The production values aren't great and I hope we'll see a step up for the actual album (Dark of the Moon had a similar synthy sound though, so I'm not super hopeful). But the themes themselves are pretty enjoyable. "Hunted" is a good climactic-type cue (although I could kind of do without Imagine Dragons; the vocal is well integrated but there's a reason I don't listen to music with lyrics), "Tessa" a very pleasant soft-rock track in the style of Divergent or Lone Survivor, and "Autobots Reunite" a cool, energetic new theme. Even the first half of "Lockdown" is enjoyable.

This could be Steve's first really decent score since Gears 3.


MrZimmerFan2014-07-03 10:12:29
Gears 3 is a very good score ;)

Hale reply Replies: 9 || 2014-07-02 12:33:18
After a first listening, i think this is good stuff. Hunted seems to be perfect with the movie climax. However, it's a pity that the end of the track sounds too trailerish! The add of "Imagine Dragons"' song is, by contrast, very well arranged.
Tessa is a great track, very spiritual. It's like a mix of "Lone Survivor" design with the voice of Imagine Dragons.
"Autobots Reunite" isn't the best "Transformers" theme but it has merit to bring new stuff to the franchise. By the way, the theme is similar to a theme of a song in 'Gears of Wars 3' (Gary Jules - Mad World).
And, to finish, Lockdown, copy-paste of some "Man of Steel" ambient cue. I think it will be well-adapted to the movie but I regret the way Steve had chosen in previous movies (mechanical choir, big brass and old Remote Control themes : remember "Bogey Approach" in TF1).

Finally,this EP leads to predict a good score with good new stuff and a beautiful collaboration with "Imagine Dragons". I hope Steve has integrated some reprise of "Arrival to Earth" in his score because it's simply the best track of TF, this is THE main theme of the franchise, in my opinion. The theme you are waiting to listen and when it appears, it's always the best part!!

Ps - sorry for my approximative english! :D


jewen2014-07-02 12:52:47
Yes, I feel the same when I listen Lockdown many times more. Very similar sound like "DNA" track in MoS score.

Steve needs find his own sound, because many times sound like a regular clon of Zimmer. His career is literaly very short, and we hope an evolution, but for this he must be join with a great filmaker that helps him to mature and grow up.
It's my humble opinion of course.


MrZimmerFan2014-07-02 13:10:18
The original theme of Autobots is in the movie ;)


Hale2014-07-02 15:42:30
And "Arrival to Earth" theme is in the movie, Mr ZimmerFan?


theeaglesfan0052014-07-02 16:46:55
MrZimmerFan, that cue should be called "The Legend Exists" ;)


MrZimmerFan2014-07-02 18:34:31
@Hale: Well, Arrival to Earth is a variation from the Autobots' theme, but isn't in the movie is that form, but the Autobot's theme is in the movie, like eaglesfans says ;)


Kingstyn2014-07-02 19:19:39
I agree with the MoS. I kept thinking of DNA when I was listening to Lockdown.


Brent2014-07-03 00:20:48
It seems like Lockdown's theme has drums inspired by Revenge of the Fallen, synths inspired by Man of Steel and sound effects from Battleship. Nonetheless, it's still a fantastic cue.


Hal02014-07-03 00:25:47
Or perhaps it's just Jablonsky's style


MacArthur2014-07-03 03:52:41
I like the song. all of them are great.

theeaglesfan005 reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-02 16:42:55
MrZimmerFan, that cue should be called "The Legend Exists" ;)


theeaglesfan0052014-07-02 16:47:18
whoops... i thought i replied on the other topic lol

Geofcraze634 reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-02 06:56:04
Yes, it is finally here. I have been looking for it. :D

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