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what the hell is Quaker steak and lube????I disagree on Catwoman. I love Zimmer's theme and I thought it is one of his most underrated themes.Loved the new tracks!<br><br>Hans & Chris really did something special.<br><br>I enjoyed the Tenet score, but honestly Ludwig's work doesn't compare to Zimmer's. I just hope they work together again instead of Chris choosing Ludwig as his main collaborator from now on.Agreed.<br><br>I don’t know, TDKR feels a little oppressive to me in comparison with BB and TDK , probably as a result of Nolan’s musical tastes veering away from symphonic to more abstract. Reading the new book on Nolan gives me the impression that he has a very similar approach to his music as he does his filmmaking. With that said though, TDKR is still a solid conclusion to the franchise. Bane’s theme is excellent and the culmination of the various “Bat-Themes” do feel well earned. Catwoman’s theme is solid, but for some reason is dropped from most of the movie in favor of the repeating two-note phrase.<br><br>@Moggyman<br>Honestly I feel as if JNH’s work on the first two Hunger Games sequels showed a strong improvement in writing and theme building. The last score was a bit too much of a pastiche, but orchestrally a stronger fit than the first one. And “Crimes of Grindelwald” is easily one of the best sequel scores in the past few years (alongside Star Wars and HTTYD). Unfortunately we still don’t have a good album situation for that though. -_-Counterpoint: I liked Crimes of Grindelwald more than the first Fantastic Beasts. And forget Hanging Tree - "Air Raid Drill" from the first and "Sewer Attack" from the second Mockingjay are the best cues from that series. Plus, JNH honestly hasn't worked on that many sequels so we don't really have enough to go on here. <br><br>I think having JNH on board for Catwoman would have done wonders for this score. Hans' theme is okay, but feels like a bit of an afterthought compared to Bane.
TDK & TDKR have amazing theme suites.<br><br>But as for the scores in film, they don't even get close to Batman Begins !I like Tom but idk he's gone downhill in my book. Alita was boring, i was over the moon excited for Terminator cause that was a perfect mix and it was disappointed big time. I'd love to hear Steve Jablonsky tackle that and get back to being as great as he used to, he has been phoning it in big time latelyOk, before I eat my words, JNH did create the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay p1 which was good, but nothing else other than that in the sequels.For being the so called "weakest", it's very good. And if you think that Bane's theme is repetitive, I would say the same about the Joker's theme in TDK (to me they are both good though). <br><br>Now in all fairness, JNH could have probably added good material to the score since he's a genius, but I personally think he doesn't do well on sequels. Sure, in TDK he gave harvey dent a theme that resonated with his character (but was similar to material already used in BB). Yet, if you look at his work in the hunger games, its seems to me that he couldn't bring something both new and compelling to the sequels as he did in the first movie. I will agree with you that Batman Begins has the best music of the series though.After re-listening to this one, it's clearly the weakest of the trilogy. Of course it's not bad, the new themes are pretty good (though I think Bane's theme is a bit too repetitive and dry at times), there's still emotional moments, but JNH's absence really left a hole in this score.<br><br>I get to an extent that's the point, that all of Bruce's potential for a happy life is gone, but even the emotional tracks to me have nowhere near the emotional resonance that JNH's themes brought to the films. <br><br>"Come With Me" is the best example, where the slow emotional Selina Kyle chords just don't leave much of an impact. Definitely could have used JNH's "Courthouse Pt. 1" or the main theme from "Bruce Left For Dead" to emphasize Bruce's giving up of a quiet life. <br><br>Of course I still appreciate the way the 2 note motif is developed into a theme of its own, as well as the score as a whole, but then you get tracks like "Many Forms of Immortality" which just emphasize how much more effective the thematic work in Batman Begins was.
It could also be Tom, who worked on Run All Night, and is already an established DC composer<br>Either way I'll be happyI lowkey think James is gonna score the Black Adam movie. it's the same director from Jungle Cruise so I'm sure he'll be brought along for itsameNo no, it's just a fake rumor. I was just responding to that MusoPT guy who made it sound like it's totally inconceivable that Balfe could ever be replaced.Wait!<br>So has Balfe been replaced due to having other projects?<br>I thought it had been completed?
Why was there the change of composers?...wouldn't being really busy be an argument *for* him possibly being replaced? When you're signed on to 10 movies and release schedules are being constantly pushed around because nobody has a clue when theaters are going to open again, you shouldn't be surprised if eventually you might run into some conflicts.Jackman is not replacing Balfe! <br>Balfe is the most busiest composer at the moment so he isn’t going to get replaced last minute!!!!!Thank you for your replies. On IMDB she is listed.Alright, after re-listening to the score, I've made a few educated guesses of what the additional composers did, based on what we know about the score and their previous work. Note that none of this is confirmed by Hybrid, just my opinion.<br><br>Lorne Balfe: Seems to practically be a co-composer here. I hear a lot of him in this score. It seems he did Invasion (as he's known for contributing trailer music to films he works on) seemingly the suites "Brooding", "Deciphering the Signal", "Battle", and the one we know he cowrote, "Journey Suite". Based on this here's my guess as to what he contributed. <br><br>Soccent Attack - Sounds like his style, probably him arranging AllSpark and Decepticon material. <br><br>Keller's Briefing - Arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal"<br><br>Deciphering the Signal - Obviously another arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal" with Batman Begins-like action at the end.<br><br>Sam's Pink Bike Ride (Part 2) - Sounds like an arrangement of "Brooding" material. <br><br>(Possibly?) Are You LadiesMan217? - Some arrangement of "Brooding" and "Journey Suite" material, although hard to say whether the theme at 1:10 is Steve's or Lorne's. Could be Steve arranging Lorne material, as it sounds more Jablonsky-esque to me. <br><br>Autobots to the Rescue - Could be Steve imitating Batman Begins style, but sounds far too Lorne for me to not consider it a co-written track. <br><br>Sector 7 Chase - Part 1 sounds more Jablonsky than Lorne, but there's no question to me that part 2 has a lot of Balfe in there. <br><br>Where Is My Car? - Batman Begins-like again, probably Lorne solo, or Lorne and Steve<br><br>Decepticons Mobilize (Part 2) - Arrangement of "Brooding"<br><br>Freeway Fight - Battle version of Decepticon theme from "Brooding"<br><br>Stumble Bumble (Part 1) & (Part 2 Alternate) - Arrangement of "Journey Suite", second part not used in the film sounds like Steve & Lorne Combo to me. Film version of part 2 sounds pure Steve to me. <br><br>You're A Soldier Now (Parts 1 & 3) - Lorne being heavily involved in the final battle is known, and Parts 1 and 3 have arrangements of Lorne material. I'm also fairly certain that Lorne wrote the Optimus vs Megatron theme from Part 3 and "Optimus vs Megatron".<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - Finale of theme introduced in "You're A Soldier Now (Part 3)" as well as the "Journey / AllSpark" theme which could be Lorne's or Steve's. <br><br>Trevor Morris: I can infer from his work on Pirates 2, The Island, and the one track we know he worked on. <br><br>Soldiers Arrive - Not sure why, but I've always assumed this military theme was Morris'.<br><br>Arctic 1897 - Dark theme that reminds me a lot of his work from Pirates 2. <br><br>Scorponok - Known fact that he co-wrote this. <br><br>Hoover Dam - Arrangement of military theme<br><br>Transforming -  Same theme from Arctic 1897<br><br>Sam on the Roof (Part 2) - Arrangement of theme from Scorponok, though could be Steve or Lorne arranging it.<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - A slight hint to the Military theme when they begin attacking Blackout, and Scorponok theme reprisal, once again could be Steve or Lorne arranging these themes. <br><br>Creeper Suite / A Call to Arms (Unused) - Original music for Optimus' Epilogue, contains arrangement of military theme. <br><br>Jay Flood: Can be inferred from his work on Transformers: The Game, his overall more orchestral writing, and his contributions to Nightmare on Elm Street, Sims 3, and Desperate Housewives. <br><br>Camaro on the Run - Definitely has a TF: The Game sound to it overall. As well as a bit of Thomas Newman-esque music. <br><br>Witwicky (Parts 1-3) - Definitely some of his style here along with Steve's overall Desperate Housewives-esque music. <br><br>Decepticons 2 Suite / Frenzy - The suspenseful strings make me think of Flood's Nightmare on Elm Street work, and the brass writing seems more characteristic of him than Jablonsky to me, though it was still probably a co-written suite. <br><br>Tense Action Suite - Once again reminds me of Flood's Nightmare suspenseful string writing, probably at least co-composed with Jablonsky. <br><br>Clay Duncan - I can guess somewhat based on his contributions to "The Island" but otherwise I don't know much about him so I'm not sure about any of the inferences I'm about the make. <br><br>Angry Camaro - This sort of drone music sounds like it could be him as his contributions were very electronic in The Island.<br><br>Bumblebee vs Barricade - Strange electronics and sounds plus more minimalist writing make me think Duncan. <br><br>Tow Truck Charge - Definitely has The Island's sound. Could be Trevor Morris too. <br><br>TJ Lindgreen: I know so little about his style except he works with Elfman and did additional music for TF: The Game so not much I can say for what he did. <br><br>Belly Shot(?) - The ethereal choir style sounds somewhat like TF: The Game's score and Elfman's choir. <br><br>Not to Hear That(?) - Maybe he composed this motif for Mikaela that also appeared in "Belly Shot". <br><br>Surreal Mikaela(?) - Once again I'm hoping the specific choir sound is part of his style. <br><br>Anything I didn't mention is a track I'm assuming is all Jablonsky. Please note that I'm not trying to take away from Steve's work on this score, and that for most of these track I'm assuming Steve had some involvement in as well, I'm just speculating for fun because I've always wanted to know who did what on this score.
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Transformers - Age Of Extinction (The EP)
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  2. Tessa (5:45)
  3. Autobots Reunite (2:57)
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Lutz reply Replies: 8 || 2014-10-05 21:07:00
Transformers: Age Of Extinction (2014), Steve Jablonsky (CD)
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Transformers: Age Of Extinction (2014), Steve Jablonsky (Score-CD)
Auf 3000 Stück limitierte CD
Infos vom Label: "TRANSFORMERS AGE OF EXTINCTION! Clocking in at well over an hour, this full throttle, non-stop action score will take your breath away. Jablonsky has delivered his best Transformers score yet with Age of Extinction - a score filled action packed adrenaline pumping cues and touching melodies. Alternative rock band IMAGINE DRAGONS provide some back ground vocals on a number of tracks that lend a lyrical touch to this driving score.
PRODUCED BY STEVE JABLONSKY and RANDY SPENDLOVE
MASTERED BY PATRICIA SULLIVAN AT BERNIE GRUNDMAN MASTERING"

LLLCD 1311 LaLaLandRecords
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Edmund Meinerts2014-10-05 21:41:20
I know it's PR, but best Transformers score yet? I think it's the worst, personally...


Anonymous2014-10-05 22:17:08
This information is for the La-La Land CD release. You're posting in the EP not the OST


Score Seeker2014-11-04 01:23:39
Hi,

Does anybody know what happened to the score & Ep downloads on iTunes/Amazon? I looked there today to download them & they were gone on both sites. Any info/insights would be really helpful.
Thanks.


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-20 23:44:20
Steve posted an answer on FB, and I learned something today, even digital music is "limited" (crazy) :

"I’ve received a lot of questions on Facebook and Twitter asking why the TF4 soundtrack was removed from iTunes. Here’s the short-ish answer: The AFM (American Federation of Musicians) has rules regarding soundtrack releases and re-use fees. One option they offer is the option to produce and sell 14,999 units without any additional re-use fees. Once sales hit 15,000+ units, additional payments kick in. The number 15,000 was chosen I believe because a good selling soundtrack generally sells around 5k-10k units, so this option provides most union film productions the opportunity to release a soundtrack and sell up to 15k units without incurring any additional re-use costs.

Now because you guys are so awesome, the TF4 score hit 15,000 units really quickly. I honestly had no idea the score had been pulled down until fans started contacting me asking why the soundtrack had vanished from iTunes, only a couple months after the release of the film. I suspected the 15k limit was the reason, a little investigation proved that to be the case.
Some of you have asked another great question: why are TF1 and TF2 still available? For both of those scores, the people responsible for paying the additional re-use costs chose to go ahead and pay them. In other words they allowed sales to go beyond the 15k limit. Different people are in charge of TF3 and TF4, and they have chosen not to pay the additional costs, which is why neither TF3 or TF4 are available any longer. It’s strictly an economic decision. The additional re-use costs can and do add up to significant numbers, especially with scores like Transformers. These movies are huge with a ton of score, and I hire a lot of very talented musicians to perform, which results in even higher re-use costs if we go beyond the 15k limit.

I have had many many discussions about this topic, unfortunately it is out of my hands because I am not the one responsible for paying the re-use fees. For those interested in a physical TF4 CD I believe La La Land records has some unsigned copies left (sorry the signed ones are all gone). After these are gone, the TF4 score will no longer be available. The TF3 score is already gone. My hope is that we will figure out a way to re-release in the future, but for now this is the situation.

This topic is very close to my heart. It’s really hard to put so many months of work into a score and then hear from people all over the world that they would love to purchase your music but they cannot because it’s not available. These are good people looking to buy this music, asking me what happened where did it go, and I don’t have a good answer for them. I’m hoping with more discussion we can find better ways to address this issue. I do believe there are better ways, where everyone can benefit without fans being left out in the cold because they didn’t buy the score fast enough.
thanks

Steve"


Ds2014-11-21 00:17:40
I've read that too. It's really crazy :p

I'll make sure never to erase those 2 scores from my computer :D


Anonymous2014-11-21 08:15:25
I heard Zimmer once say they sometimes come to Europe to record a score. We don't have crazy rules like that here for re-use.

That's exactly why I don't put money on Spotify and all. The music can disppear overnight.


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-21 08:44:25
Any time they, any composer will record in Europe...


But if the film is a complete US production (like Disney movies, or Michael Bay movies), you have no choice but go with unions...


D-Fens2014-12-03 17:06:13
Better keep this on the DL then; HMV Digital in the UK are still selling downloads of both the EP and score album. Not sure if people outside the UK can download from HMV Digital, but it's probably worth a look, especially if you still want the EP tracks.

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2014-09-09 06:17:36
Autobots Reunite is a different versión from the movie. The film versión sounds more epic

RealFfingMusic reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-05 11:16:16
WTF happened to my question?

Okay, here it is again:
The cover art's the same as the EP. Hybrid, are you gonna change any or do you just put the official one?


Hybrid Soldier2014-07-05 12:58:24
Official OSTs : official covers... :)

D A R T H reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-04 17:09:21
Fulle Track listing ;-)

1. Decision
2. Best Thing That Ever Happened
3. I'm an Autobot
4. Optimus Is Alive
5. Cemetery Wind
6. His Name Is Shane and He Drives
7. Hacking the Drone
8. Transformium
9. Galvatron Is Online
10. Your Creators Want You Back
11. The Final Knight
12. Punch Hold Slide Repeat
13. The Presence of Megatron
14. Galvatron Is Active
15. Have Faith Prime
16. Hong Kong Chase
17. The Legend Exists
18. Dinobot Charge
19. That’s a Big Magnet
20. Drive Backwards
21. Honor to the End
22. Leave Planet Earth Alone
23. The Knight Ship


Everan2014-07-04 17:33:45
And the iTunes link!!
https: //itunes.apple.com/us/album/transformers-age-extinction/ id896006953

Bought and downloading right now!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 16 || 2014-07-01 18:56:51
Here it is... :P


Macejko2014-07-01 19:09:52
Awesome cues, Steve's still got it!


Ds2014-07-01 19:41:32
It's very nice, and I'm glad these tracks are only demos and not real album tracks, because they really sound like demos (especially the drums).

What I don't like is that maybe it means that the album isn't coming until a couple of weeks... If it was gonna be released in 2 days, I doubt Steve would've put this EP out... But I may be wrong :-)


MrZimmerFan2014-07-01 19:47:48
I really digging into Lockdown's theme, is so tremendous and darker


Adam2014-07-01 20:45:04
So glad this was released last night, I had it on repeat for hours.


jewen2014-07-01 21:08:12
By far Lokdown's theme is te best. But after the great job in Ender's Game last year, I was hoping an improve over the last Transformers movie. This material is miles ago of the notable "Dark of the Moon" score.
And yes I know this is only a sneak peek but my hopes of great music are gone. For example Autobots Reunite in my personal opinion lose against the original Autobots Theme.
And if your memory fail, check this epic track again.


Adam2014-07-01 22:23:38
I agree, original Autobot theme is better. But the new one will grow on me


David2014-07-01 23:08:36
Can anyone else hear a slight variation of "4m59 The Drop" from RoTF in "Hunted"?


Everan2014-07-01 23:51:29
Around what minute, David?

I'm loving these demos, and I think they sound brilliantly for being demos and all. Will hear the whole score tomorrow with the film, finally.


David2014-07-03 06:28:48
At around 5 seconds in, and various points from then on. No specific area, just kinda all around - and then it switches to 5m39a/7m55 from DotM


David2014-07-03 06:33:15
But, that's not before Imagine Dragons show up and do their thing, then the "Battle" theme from DotM (5m39a/7m55) shows up at about 4:31 ;)


Agent Smith2014-07-03 09:42:32
i can't understand why you people like "Lockdown" the most. It's that typical electro BS, which is so present thesedays. Zimmer lost his orientation totally because of this damn electro pop sound.

Everyone critizes him because of that, and now here, everyone loves this electro dump track. While Hunted, Tessa and Autobots Reunite are also electronical sounddesign, they also have melodical themes, which makes them beautiful.

i hope we don't have too many of these "lockdown" tracks in the final ost or in the future of scores. enough of it!


theeaglesfan0052014-07-03 14:28:15
Agent Smith, Lockdown is amazing and fits the character so well.

Have you even seen the film?


Edmund Meinerts2014-07-03 14:34:03
"Fits the character so well"? It's a Michael freaking Bay film. I could write a good score for a cardboard box too.


RealFfingMusic2014-07-03 14:38:22
The music fitting Bay's character is a hilarious notion, but you have to admit, it's pretty cool -- even to Jab's standards.


Edmund Meinerts2014-07-03 16:28:15
I'll admit no such thing. "Lockdown" (the second half at least) is exactly the kind of music Jablonsky's been pumping out lately that I HATE...abuse of the BWAAA, low ugly crackling beats, no melodic line whatsoever, unpleasant sound design (thanks for nothing, Skrillex). It's all the heinous attributes of Battleship all over again. Compare that with the clever, flexible choral theme/ostinato for the Decepticons in the first movie. Much better. More of THAT please, Steve.

The first half of the Lockdown cue is OK though.


RealFfingMusic2014-07-03 19:03:24
I should have said *the first half* instead of *it's*. My mistake. And yes, the beats painfully remind me of that God-awful Battleship.

Edmund said above just about the Decepticons theme from 2007.
Personally, I miss the loud and fast-varying beat-based style along with the melody of SOCCENT Attack more. IMHO, the overtness of melody was what set Jablonsky apart -- among the more electronic composers.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-03 09:58:52
I was liking it up until I got to whatever the shit was up with the last couple minutes of "Lockdown". They could have found a BAAAAWWWM that sounds a bit less like the parody BAAAWWWM everyone's been using for the last four years. It's kind of hard to take seriously anymore.

Other than that, though, I quite like this. The production values aren't great and I hope we'll see a step up for the actual album (Dark of the Moon had a similar synthy sound though, so I'm not super hopeful). But the themes themselves are pretty enjoyable. "Hunted" is a good climactic-type cue (although I could kind of do without Imagine Dragons; the vocal is well integrated but there's a reason I don't listen to music with lyrics), "Tessa" a very pleasant soft-rock track in the style of Divergent or Lone Survivor, and "Autobots Reunite" a cool, energetic new theme. Even the first half of "Lockdown" is enjoyable.

This could be Steve's first really decent score since Gears 3.


MrZimmerFan2014-07-03 10:12:29
Gears 3 is a very good score ;)

Hale reply Replies: 9 || 2014-07-02 12:33:18
After a first listening, i think this is good stuff. Hunted seems to be perfect with the movie climax. However, it's a pity that the end of the track sounds too trailerish! The add of "Imagine Dragons"' song is, by contrast, very well arranged.
Tessa is a great track, very spiritual. It's like a mix of "Lone Survivor" design with the voice of Imagine Dragons.
"Autobots Reunite" isn't the best "Transformers" theme but it has merit to bring new stuff to the franchise. By the way, the theme is similar to a theme of a song in 'Gears of Wars 3' (Gary Jules - Mad World).
And, to finish, Lockdown, copy-paste of some "Man of Steel" ambient cue. I think it will be well-adapted to the movie but I regret the way Steve had chosen in previous movies (mechanical choir, big brass and old Remote Control themes : remember "Bogey Approach" in TF1).

Finally,this EP leads to predict a good score with good new stuff and a beautiful collaboration with "Imagine Dragons". I hope Steve has integrated some reprise of "Arrival to Earth" in his score because it's simply the best track of TF, this is THE main theme of the franchise, in my opinion. The theme you are waiting to listen and when it appears, it's always the best part!!

Ps - sorry for my approximative english! :D


jewen2014-07-02 12:52:47
Yes, I feel the same when I listen Lockdown many times more. Very similar sound like "DNA" track in MoS score.

Steve needs find his own sound, because many times sound like a regular clon of Zimmer. His career is literaly very short, and we hope an evolution, but for this he must be join with a great filmaker that helps him to mature and grow up.
It's my humble opinion of course.


MrZimmerFan2014-07-02 13:10:18
The original theme of Autobots is in the movie ;)


Hale2014-07-02 15:42:30
And "Arrival to Earth" theme is in the movie, Mr ZimmerFan?


theeaglesfan0052014-07-02 16:46:55
MrZimmerFan, that cue should be called "The Legend Exists" ;)


MrZimmerFan2014-07-02 18:34:31
@Hale: Well, Arrival to Earth is a variation from the Autobots' theme, but isn't in the movie is that form, but the Autobot's theme is in the movie, like eaglesfans says ;)


Kingstyn2014-07-02 19:19:39
I agree with the MoS. I kept thinking of DNA when I was listening to Lockdown.


Brent2014-07-03 00:20:48
It seems like Lockdown's theme has drums inspired by Revenge of the Fallen, synths inspired by Man of Steel and sound effects from Battleship. Nonetheless, it's still a fantastic cue.


Hal02014-07-03 00:25:47
Or perhaps it's just Jablonsky's style


MacArthur2014-07-03 03:52:41
I like the song. all of them are great.

theeaglesfan005 reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-02 16:42:55
MrZimmerFan, that cue should be called "The Legend Exists" ;)


theeaglesfan0052014-07-02 16:47:18
whoops... i thought i replied on the other topic lol

Geofcraze634 reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-02 06:56:04
Yes, it is finally here. I have been looking for it. :D

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