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I'll try to explain myself more with the scores I wasn't a big fan of. I really like a lot of Gears of War 3. It has a lot of faster paced, melodic action cues, and the cues from Gears of War 2 are improved. Its main problem is it's not very memorable, which Jablonsky is usually able to produce. <br><br>Ender's Game I found to be a bit of a slog. There was a lot of ambient/sound design cues which I found incredibly dull. However, it's possible I was expecting too much, or maybe I was too harsh on it. I'll try to have another listen to that one. <br><br>Gangster Squad was one where I just looked at the comments to see what people thought about it, and the consensus was "it copied every recent Hollywood score", so I just skipped that one. <br><br>TF3 had a lot of good thematic material, and the finale's action music was a lot of fun, but it lacks the memorability and excitement of the first 2, or the subtlety of 5, making it fall in the middle for me. Plus the Inception sound was pretty annoying. <br><br>Gears of War 2 falls into mediocre for me. The main theme is solid, but the action is repetitive and doesn't have much variation. Plus it also wasn't very memorable. It's basically a worse version of Gears 3 to me. <br><br>Transformers 1 and 2 don't really count to me because those were more an RCP effort than a Jablonsky one. Just to clarify, I don't hate that Jablonsky went down this route. I first learned of his existence through the Transformers scores for god's sake. It's just that listening to Steamboy, it makes me sad there wasn't more of this side of Jablonsky. Oh, and honorable mention to TMNT: Out of the Shadows, that was a great superhero score!Gangster Squad was Ok, but i prefer Ender's Game, actually the sound design in that i find it certain interesting.<br><br>In Battleship, yeah, it's nothing original, but for me, is a guilty pleasure, i love the percussion (i'm a big fan of the taiko sound)<br><br>Enderís Game isnít bad at all, there are some cool power anthems and orchestral moments in it. As for Battleship, while I find most of it generic, I genuinely do like the alien ďMRIĒ sound design he incorporated.<br><br>And one of Jablonskyís most underrated scores imo is Gangster Squad. If you want a fun Jablonsky score that strays away (mostly) from the Zimmer sound thatís it. Any score using Antz as a temp track is fine by me!I will disagree with TF3, Ender's Game, Gears of War 2 and 3, there are good scores, altough i'm a massive fan of that guilty pleasure is Battleship ;D<br><br>And A Nightmare on Elm Street was cool.John Powell to receive Henry Mancini Award. <br><br>Look it up at filmmusicreporter.<br><br>Congrats John
Edmund's right. It's really just sad that Jablonsky could have been one of the greatest composers ever, one with more notoriety and respect from the music community, but instead settled for being... a decent composer.<br><br>TF5 was a step in the right direction, D-War was a great monster movie score, Your Highness came close to Steamboy levels, and IDEA felt like Jablonsky's symphony in a lot of ways. But on the other end you have Ender's Game, Transformers 3 and 4, Battleship, Gears of War 2, Gears of War: Judgement, and a few others that range from ok, to flat out awful. Occasionally though you get some decent ones like Gears of War 3, and A Nightmare on Elm Street.<br><br>My point is, we get a composer overridden with bland projects, and musically inept directors, when he had the potential for being Oscar level.This just occurred to me. 1:44-2:10ish in Remember Who You Are kind of sounds like part of Mozartís Ave Verum Corpus...and we know Hans is a fan of that piece...@mpolonest: I'm the opposite side: BvS grown each time i listened.<br><br>Not the same for MoS ;D@DS<br><br>You are absolutely right, and it was something that I did think about while I was writing the post, I just never clarified it. <br><br>But that also has the opposite effect as well. I've had plenty of scores/songs which originally I liked that I gradually grew to dislike or simply lose interest. One of the most recent ones is BvS, which I enjoyed when it came out but looking back is probably one of my least favorite Zimmer scores.@Edmund @Ds totally agree! This days the only composer that convince me is Steven Price.
Is there a Balfe score that is not very temped? Every single Balfe score I listened to is basically giving an old score a fresh set of paint.mpolonest123: it's difficult to compare scores that are 10 years old and that you had plenty of time to digest, with brand new scores you've only heard a couple of times.<br><br>You said it yourself, when Clash of the Titans came out you thought it was generic and forgettable. It's only later that you noticed all these themes and all the work Djawadi put into it.<br><br>And actually it works like that with any new album released by any major artist. Fans are always like "it sucks, I prefer their previous albums". And yet 5 years later they love all these songs and know them by heart. :-pEdmund: I see your point, and if everyone could become 100% objective it would be actually true. But in practice, our personal tastes play a heavy role in deciding whether a score is interesting or fun or creative or intelligent or enjoyable. Some people like very classical, orchestral music more than anything else; even if JXL was creating the craziest soundtrack ever, his sound palette and synthetic approach alone would be enough to make these people dislike the score and say it's rubbish. The level of detail he put in Tomb Raider is astonishing, but sadly it'll only be noticed by people who are not upset by this style of brutal and synthetic environment. Of course it also works the other way, dry orchestral scores like Giacchino frequently writes do nothing to me, I don't particularly like this kind of sound, so I never spent a lot of time listening to them. As a consequence, I never was able to dissect them to discover all their (I guess) richness, subtleties, etc. So from my point of view, almost all Giacchino scores sound the same way and are not interesting, and I don't understand how and why he keeps getting all those major assignments. That's to say, our personal preferences will always interfere with our judgment, even if we honestly try to be fair.I feel like I see/have this kind of conversation on film music boards all the time. The approach isn't the problem, it's the execution. For example, when Man of Steel came out:<br><br>me: "I'm a bit disappointed by Man of Steel, it has its moments but I don't think it's a very good score overall"<br>fanboys: "JOHN WILLIAMS WAS YESTERDAY, ZIMMER IS TODAY, THIS IS A DIFFERENT SUPERMAN BLAH BLAH BLAH GET OVER IT"<br>me: "...did I mention Williams?"<br><br>or else Mad Max: Fury Road<br><br>me: "Mad Max is a decent score but I feel like the film deserved much more"<br>fanboys: "THERE'S LITERALLY A DUDE ON A DRUM CAR WITH A FLAMETHROWER GUITAR WHAT DID YOU EXPECT"<br>me: "...a composer who does more interesting things with those drums and that guitar?"<br><br>All over the place. It was really aggravating. This is a similar situation A talented film composer can write interesting, engaging music in all sorts of styles, for all sorts of films and under all sorts of directorial conditions. My issue with Tomb Raider isn't that it's not a traditional Jerry Goldsmith adventure score. I never expected that from this film, and certainly not from this composer. It's just not a very interesting or intelligent or enjoyable version of what it's trying to be, and that's the bottom line.@mrzimmerfan <br><br>I completely agree with you. Tomb Raider definitely didnít need a traditional score at all. And I love all the scores youíve mentioned. I even donít have a problem with the approach he took.<br><br>But I just donít like the score as is. We just have to agree to disagree, no harm done. :-)
I don't think he means that, just that it would have been interesting if Jablonsky had gone more into animated movies like Powell did, rather than mostly Michael Bay. I think maybe we got a hint of what that could have been like with Your Highness a few years ago, a score I'll always defend, but yeah...the lack of follow-up to Steamboy is a great tragedy in Jablonsky's career.@mpolonest: I will enjoyed more Run All Night than Mad Max, hell, even The Dark Tower.<br><br>But with Tomb Raider, this movie is harsh, with a real character, and an adventure score a la Goldsmith or JNH, will not benefit anything about it. And in there, there is a lot of great sounds and ideas pop up in all the score.<br><br>And this is telling you a guy who LOVE The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, the entire Indiana Jones and Jumanji scores.@mpolonest: I will enjoyed more Run All Night than Mad Max, hell, even The Dark Tower.<br><br>But with Tomb Raider, this movie is harsh, with a real character, and an adventure score a la Goldsmith or JNH, will not benefit anything about it. And in there, there is a lot of great sounds and ideas pop up in all the score.<br><br>And this is telling you a guy who LOVE The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, the entire Indiana Jones and Jumanji scores.I don't think Jablonsky is going to be a new John Powell ;)<br><br>But this one of his most notable efforts, i will said that.This is feels like a very temped soundtrack, only that explains why the score is so generic. I wonder which movies music scenes producer-director used to make lorne do this. <br><br>Track 8 - is Tron legacy (dont know maybe he worked on it, powell was involved maybe he was too)

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The Prince Of Egypt (Complete Score)
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  1. Deliver Us (7:16)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Martin Erskine, Andrew Lippa
  2. Chariot Race (3:02)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Brothers (4:24)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. Meeting Tzipporah (0:19)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  5. Desert Flower (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer
  6. Following Tzipporah (1:00)
    Hans Zimmer
  7. All I Ever Wanted (With Queen's Reprise) (2:52)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  8. Hieroglyphic Nightmare (1:38)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  9. Moses & Seti (1:46)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer
  10. Beating - Gate - Desert Montage (5:33)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  11. Camel Boogie (2:12)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  12. Through Heaven's Eyes (3:42)
    Stephen Schwartz, Gavin Greenaway
  13. Moses Finds Cave (1:14)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  14. Burning Bush - Remember (7:55)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer
  15. Meeting Pharaoh (1:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  16. Playing With The Big Boys (2:53)
    Stephen Schwartz, John Powell
  17. Line In The Sand (1:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  18. Moses Reviled (3:44)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer
  19. The Plagues (3:23)
    Stephen Schwartz, Gavin Greenaway
  20. Memory Lane - Ultimatum (3:52)
    Hans Zimmer
  21. Death Of The First Born (1:08)
    Hans Zimmer
  22. When You Believe (4:55)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer
  23. Red Sea (5:51)
    Hans Zimmer
  24. Epilogue (3:39)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Gavin Greenaway
  25. Epilogue (Alternate) (3:25)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer
  26. The Prince Of Egypt Trailer Music (1:46)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 5 || 2015-01-07 22:16:25
Found some credits for it, should look like that ! :)

Mike2015-01-08 00:24:58
Thank you! I've wanted these forever!

Mike2015-01-08 00:26:18
Where Stephen Schwartz is credited, it's because it contains some of his song material, but Zimmer did the cue, right?

Hybrid Soldier2015-01-08 11:42:03
Yeah there are quotes of the songs but Schwartz only did the songs...

But credit is due... :)

NM2015-01-08 22:29:13
Haha, the ones I guessed were HGW were spot on. I have no idea how I was able to tell.

mittens2018-01-08 01:31:23
Regarding these songs where HZ is also listed (besides Stephen Schwartz), is he listed as composer or producer? Because on this list he is mostly credited as producer...

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-25 21:18:05
So I just picked up the Collector's Edition CD that was released (the one with the 3 extra cues), and i have to say, I'm glad I did. Having the Chariot Race and Epilogue (alternate version, granted) really rounds out the main CD. Those were two highlights. Having "Moses Reviled" is also good, as that was a strong cue (called "It is Only the Beginning" on the CD). The whole score has essentially been released when you put the main CD and the collector's one together (though sadly, the film version of the Epilogue isn't here).

I got the thing for $3.00. I was inspired to look into it due to a comment about it below.

Mike (OTM)2017-03-25 21:24:40
Not to double post, but can I just say that both versions of the Finale - the one using Hans' theme and the one using the Deliver Us theme - are really, really epic? Zimmer outdid himself with this segment particularly. The Prince of Egypt is a truly underrated score.

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2016-07-06 01:47:52
Okay. Listen to Hero from 13 Hours, then Burning Bush...

Waymann2016-07-06 08:38:47
I knew it. When I saw 13 Hours I kept thinking about another score that sounded just like that theme.

Mike2016-07-06 17:12:02
Yikes! Temp track? Well, Hans was producer on 13 Hours... Maybe that was his suggestion. :P

Mike2016-07-06 17:15:02
The similarity I caught while watching the film was the "Deshi Deshi Basara" percussion in "Welcome to Benghazi." It sounds like Zimmer-temp (or Zimmer suggestions?) was used in a couple places.

jrej35552017-03-20 13:56:02
WOW!!! That is shameless!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-19 22:30:51
The Collector's Edition contains "Moses Reviled," along with "Chariot Race" and Zimmer's original Epilogue as one track, is that correct?

Mike reply Replies: 6 || 2016-07-04 20:27:10
Interesting little thing... If you listen to the director commentary on the film, they say that Hans' original idea for the Burning Bush sequence had "choir and organ and stuff," but they asked for a re-write because that was stereotypical and they wanted something different for the scene. I love the final version, too, but I can't help wanting to know what the original sounded like.

Hybrid Soldier2016-07-04 21:12:50
Stay from Interstellar ?! :P

Mike2016-07-04 22:37:01
Quite possibly. Has Hans done any interviews for this score? I haven't found any.

Also a little interesting was that the directors mentioned Harry Gregson-Williams by name with regard to the "Line in the Sand" cue. As Rameses opens his eyes while holding the ring, one of them talks about how it was "scary" and "that was Harry Gregson-Williams' idea." :P

anonymous2016-07-04 22:58:47
on a somewhat related page... zimmer produced the first use of "all i ever wanted" sung by moses, and harry did the queen's reprise, right? or did harry do both?

Hybrid Soldier2016-07-04 23:39:34
Yep !

To be complete on POE, on the cuesheet HGW & RGW get 100% on the following cues :

Hieroglyphic Nightmare (with Schwartz)
Moses Finds Cave
Line In The Sand

Meeting Tzipporah
Camel Boogie
Meeting Pharaoh

Klaus got 0, lol, did some arranging...

Up until the early 2000s, HZ used to give 100% of some of the cues to additionals even when it used some of his music. But then all the rest of the cues were credited to HZ only while some were arranged by these guys... So I guess nowadays way of doing is not so bad...

Mike2016-07-05 00:11:29
Here's something I've wondered:

Do Hans' additional guys do substantially more than they did in the 90's / 2000's, or is it really a matter of crediting differently like your comment suggests? Cause it seems like Zimmer had a lot more "solo" credits on his scores back then (70% of cues, typically), whereas now he'll have only 2 or 3 on a given score. So did Hans' methodology change at some point and now he's more collaborative than he used to be, or is it mostly that now he credits "arrangers" and he didn't used to?

Hybrid Soldier2016-07-05 00:19:22
Well, I don't think it's much different, in proportion it's the same thing...

Remember in the 90s he had to do scores quite short, even big action films were 90 min long...

Now when you have an Inception, POTC or whatever, it's always between 2 & 2,5 hours of music to write... And relatively less time to write them ! lol

Anonymous reply Replies: 9 || 2014-12-06 16:08:19
Zimmer made Such. An Epic. Arrangement. of Deliver Us for that last scene. My goodness. It gets me every time.

Mike2014-12-06 16:15:53
This is a sadly under-spoken-about score. It's probably one of my favorite Zimmer scores of the 1990s, and it uses his big, epic sound to really good effect. It just manages to complement the film really well, and it even has a nice Eastern flair sometimes.

Edmund Meinerts2014-12-06 23:43:12
This is something like my third-favorite Zimmer score. I don't think he ever quite managed to go as grandiose and BIG as this again, not even in Gladiator.

On a vaguely related note, wouldn't it have been hilarious if Ridley Scott had decided to reunite with Hans on Exodus: Gods and Kings of all things? :p

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-06 23:53:55
I would have loved to... :(

Adam2014-12-07 00:13:20
I would have loved that as well :(

Hey Hybrid, do you know why Ridley & Hans stopped working together? They were partners since Thelma & Louise. I mess their collaborations :'(

Ds2014-12-07 00:40:10
Edmund, I think PotC 3 and King Arthur are even BIGGER than this one :-)

Edmund Meinerts2014-12-07 02:08:36
Funny that you mention those two, Ds, they're my other two favorite Zimmer scores. ;)

Yeah, they're both pretty massive, but more in an action-score kind of way. I don't think King Arthur in particular hits quite the same grandly religious heights as Prince of Egypt. For overall size At World's End wins everything, though.

NM2014-12-07 09:07:50
Nice to see some appreciation for this score. I really love it.

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-07 09:10:39
Hans & Ridley isn't gonna happen ever again. They keep talking about each other a lot in interviews & stuff, they are still in contact, phoning or dining from time to time...

But the look on Hans' face when I asked him said it all... He just said they were "out of synch"...

Anonymous2015-01-07 22:36:28
Oh good grief. When "you" asked him?? LOL

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-29 19:54:28
Good to see this one up here!

NM reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-25 18:00:38
The theme for the two brothers is heartbreaking, I wish this score got more attention. There's some really great thematic writing.

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