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@Bob<br><br>Thank you for the enlightment, I will consider opening my wrists for misconduct in the next few days, thank you very much... :o<br><br><br><br>Ok seriously though, you guys should know that if there's one guy that could not care less about awards... it's Hans... :)I am really enjoying his season of the Crown.a big balfe influence in this season with hints of Churchil and Genius I think. Really excellent music/ it's me@ds "Ramin is also doing a lot of projects but is far, far behind in terms of styles and creativity."<br> <br>I think the same for Jablonsky, Zanelli, XL, Jackman and Mancina.@macejko<br><br>"All the time he acts like the hottest shit in town, refusing to score basically everything they offer him"<br><br>You said in another comment that you never read an interview with Powell, so not reason you take that kind of conclusion of your character.<br><br>"The man hides in a cave, doesn't evolve at all and for some mysterious reason he is still revered like a second coming of Jesus Christ."<br>Powell is a clearly talented composer. He suffered criticism at the beginning of his career by sounding like Zimmer, but soon showed substance. And much more than that created an identifiable style, which today is reference to other scores of modern animations (which may be good or bad to depend on of the point of view).<br>Today he is an established composer and it is common for these composers to move away for a few years or even close their careers without many explanations for the public. In recent years we watched the estrangement of Silvestri, Horner, Williams and in the past we saw Faltemeyer, Bill Conti and Brad Fiedel drop their careers when they were at the top of the game.<br><br>" Say anything you will about Lorne Balfe, but at least he is working his ass off and slowly getting better and better"<br><br>As they said in another comment, you're compared to newbies and veterans. Balfe's having the opportunity of his life now. Take it or leave it. There's no choice. Powell, as well as Zimmer others, on the other hand, is a "senior member" of the club. He can afford to go away for a few years to resolve comprehensible personal problems without affecting the hard work he has developed in the last 20 years. Will Balfe continue to be so creative in 10 or 15 years?<br><br>@ds<br><br>"<br>Powell has nothing to prove, he has already mastered all genres"<br><br>That's funny, but it's fair. Powell Is a good composer. Not the best, far from it. Your style really narrows your work down, but we can say that from all the composers out there. So it's not a problem.The problem is he wants to limit his work to animations and fantasy.because he abhors gratuitous violence.<br><br>@george<br><br>". Although, I hate to say it, we could say the same for Zimmer in my opinion"<br><br>Zimmer's at the end of his career. All the other composers when they arrived at 60 years (with the exception of JNH, Goldsmith and Morricone) reduced the amount of projects per year and went on to choose their work best. It's a natural way.Over the years, it tends to get worse with one exception here and there. Don't keep expectations like he's in his prime<br><br>"he has "nothing more to prove", he is creatively dead."<br><br><br>Powell will work with a little more frequently in the coming years (or not) that only depends on his ambitions. However, frankly, he's never going to do three again. 4.5. 6 projects in a year. It takes a lot of motivation for that.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
Just listened to the whole thing, kind of a let down. Nothing interessting except for some action moments. Donít even recall hearing some sort of theme. Overall it was like listening to Cars 4: Spanish World Cup.I have already listened to The Jumanji Overture and I must say it sounds really great. Let's see how the rest of the score sounds.Tracklist with track duration:<br>01. The Jumanji Overture (03:20)<br>02. Digging Up The Past (01:43)<br>03. Brantfort High (01:09)<br>04. Into The Jungle (01:23)<br>05. Out of Character (02:31)<br>06. The Legend of the Jewel (02:23)<br>07. The Adventure Begins (01:40)<br>08. Special Abilities (01:16)<br>09. The Bikers (03:44)<br>10. Van Pelt (01:00)<br>11. A Test Of Friendship (01:22)<br>12. The Bazaar (01:16)<br>13. Snake Charmer (03:41)<br>14. The Power of Bravestone (01:04)<br>15. Seaplane McDonough (02:17)<br>16. The Missing Piece (01:46)<br>17. Lost In Time (01:18)<br>18. Flirting With Danger (01:36)<br>19. Albino Rhinos (03:44)<br>20. Retrieving the Emerald (01:54)<br>21. Out of Lives (01:49)<br>22. First Kiss (01:22)<br>23. The Jaguars (03:03)<br>24. Ring of Fire (02:07)<br>25. Begin The Climb (01:56)<br>26. Call Out Its Name (02:23)<br>27. leaving Jumanji (03:03)<br>28. An Older Friend (02:40)<br>29. Back To School (01:53)@ds the same for desplat's victory with Budapest Hotel.Maybe. I'd sure be happy for you lot ;) And I'd definitely rather see Powell attached to a project than, say, RGW, Junkie or Desplat. <br><br>That Solo movie is going to be a disaster, though.
One more thing: if indeed the reason for Powell's semi-hiatus was to be with his family as much as possible, we may well see his activity increase again in coming years now that his wife has passed away and his son is close to graduating high school (I couldn't find an exact date of birth for him but I think he's 16 or 17). Him taking on a project as big and ambitious as Star Wars isn't exactly the sign of someone who wants to take it easy. It's too early to say yet though.hans should win the oscar for best sound effects and not for the best music/score. just as a statement.And it's also unfair to use Balfe to criticize Powell. He started working on American projects in 2005 with Batman Begins, and only after 2010 did he receive individual projects. Is it accurate to compare someone who entered the party at the last minute with two others who are in it for 20 (Powell) and 30 (Zimmer)?<br><br>I'm in a hurry and I put everything into a translator. Forgive the many mistakes.<br> <br><br><br>Composers do not need to worry about the attention, acceptance of the public of the same or the same intensity as pop music artists do. There's no need to do that. Occasionally some name draws attention to the public and causes many people to be in the genre, Williams and Zimmer are the main examples that I can bring the table. However it is not because Williams or Zimmer are extremely popular and perhaps worry about the material they are offering to the public who adores them that all the composers of the world need to do equal. Most of these men and women even enxeega as "celebrity". They are more like artisans or the rest of the crew of a film that occupies with the lights, effects and costumes and that will never have the same response from the public as the main actor. And they don't even expect it. So I think it's foolish to wait for Powell to occupy himself in 2,3 movies a year to please a fanbase.<br><br>I'll agree with you when it says it's deplorable to see CPR composers who talk so much about building a single voice and giving emerging talent the opportunity to use so many additional composers (many of them with a possible promise that in the future they will work with Zimmer and thus have the opportunity to show his face in Hollywood.The sense is almost always these.You start with a secondary composer, he arrives at Zimmer and gains some kind of notoriety). But Powell is not the only one who does this. So he should not be the only one criticized.Well...it's a film score. It has no obligation to provide a pleasant or enjoyable listening experience, and for an award like this that doesn't really come into consideration. So if it works in the film, it did its job and that's all that matters.<br><br>For me personally, as someone who cares about music first and films second, a score like Dunkirk has little value. A few years ago I probably would have been pretty mad about this score winning awards and acclaim (you should have seen how salty I got when The Social Network beat out HTTYD), but these days... *shrug*. I know what I like, Dunkirk isn't it, and that's fine. It wasn't written for me. Do I wish Hans still wrote the kind of music I like? Of course. But he gets to make his own choices as an artist, just as I get to choose what to listen to as a fan.
The score is already on itunes.This score... so many mixed emotions. Does it work for the film? Heck yeah. Does it improve the film? So much so. Did Hans do what he set out to do? Totally. Is it an award winning masterpiece? Um, not so fast.<br><br>Dunkirk, while super effective within the context of the film (I wouldnít change a thing about it), I must admit, it doesnít have nearly the same effect as a stand-alone listen. Itís literally the same textures and notes over and over again, just slightly rising and falling in pitch and tempo. Does that make it ďawardĒ worthy? Iím not sure. If based solely on the film, you betcha. If based purely on the music itself, I donít think so. Thatís where Interstellar succeeds so far and away over Dunkirk. As a pure listening experience, Interstellar is interesting, multi-layered and emotional. Whereas Dunkirk is just flat, void of any sort of feeling or ďactualĒ music (again, works IN the film). Itís glorified sound FX (save for the end, which, no doubt, is in large part to Ben).<br><br>Hmm... Iíve never had a score tear me apart more than this one. I both love it and hate it. Maybe it did itís job... lol.<br><br>Excuse me while I go listen to No Time for Caution yet again.I think most of us agree that he should've won for Interstellar but I think Dunkirk deserves it too. The work Hans and the music department did on this movie is just incredible. Must've been a lot of hard work. <br>An award is an award, Hans' 2nd Oscar is long overdue so I'd be glad to see him win. But it would be weird to see him win for THAT score, after all the greatnesses of the past 20 years. Same thing with Morricone who won his only Oscar for his very light and insignificant work on Hateful Eight. Good for the man, good for the fans, but doesn't really make sense. But have Oscars ever made sense? :-phaha hybrid :D made my day
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Hans ZimmerHarry Gregson-WilliamsRupert Gregson-WilliamsKlaus Badelt
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The Prince Of Egypt (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 81'54
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  1. Deliver Us (7:16)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Martin Erskine, Andrew Lippa
  2. Chariot Race (3:02)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Brothers (4:24)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. Meeting Tzipporah (0:19)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  5. Desert Flower (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer
  6. Following Tzipporah (1:00)
    Hans Zimmer
  7. All I Ever Wanted (With Queen's Reprise) (2:52)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  8. Hieroglyphic Nightmare (1:38)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  9. Moses & Seti (1:46)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer
  10. Beating - Gate - Desert Montage (5:33)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  11. Camel Boogie (2:12)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  12. Through Heaven's Eyes (3:42)
    Stephen Schwartz, Gavin Greenaway
  13. Moses Finds Cave (1:14)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  14. Burning Bush - Remember (7:55)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer
  15. Meeting Pharaoh (1:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  16. Playing With The Big Boys (2:53)
    Stephen Schwartz, John Powell
  17. Line In The Sand (1:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  18. Moses Reviled (3:44)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer
  19. The Plagues (3:23)
    Stephen Schwartz, Gavin Greenaway
  20. Memory Lane - Ultimatum (3:52)
    Hans Zimmer
  21. Death Of The First Born (1:08)
    Hans Zimmer
  22. When You Believe (4:55)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer
  23. Red Sea (5:51)
    Hans Zimmer
  24. Epilogue (3:39)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer, Gavin Greenaway
  25. Epilogue (Alternate) (3:25)
    Stephen Schwartz, Hans Zimmer
  26. The Prince Of Egypt Trailer Music (1:46)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
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Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-25 21:18:05
So I just picked up the Collector's Edition CD that was released (the one with the 3 extra cues), and i have to say, I'm glad I did. Having the Chariot Race and Epilogue (alternate version, granted) really rounds out the main CD. Those were two highlights. Having "Moses Reviled" is also good, as that was a strong cue (called "It is Only the Beginning" on the CD). The whole score has essentially been released when you put the main CD and the collector's one together (though sadly, the film version of the Epilogue isn't here).

I got the thing for $3.00. I was inspired to look into it due to a comment about it below.


Mike (OTM)2017-03-25 21:24:40
Not to double post, but can I just say that both versions of the Finale - the one using Hans' theme and the one using the Deliver Us theme - are really, really epic? Zimmer outdid himself with this segment particularly. The Prince of Egypt is a truly underrated score.

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2016-07-06 01:47:52
Okay. Listen to Hero from 13 Hours, then Burning Bush...


Waymann2016-07-06 08:38:47
I knew it. When I saw 13 Hours I kept thinking about another score that sounded just like that theme.


Mike2016-07-06 17:12:02
Yikes! Temp track? Well, Hans was producer on 13 Hours... Maybe that was his suggestion. :P


Mike2016-07-06 17:15:02
The similarity I caught while watching the film was the "Deshi Deshi Basara" percussion in "Welcome to Benghazi." It sounds like Zimmer-temp (or Zimmer suggestions?) was used in a couple places.


jrej35552017-03-20 13:56:02
WOW!!! That is shameless!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-19 22:30:51
The Collector's Edition contains "Moses Reviled," along with "Chariot Race" and Zimmer's original Epilogue as one track, is that correct?

Mike reply Replies: 6 || 2016-07-04 20:27:10
Interesting little thing... If you listen to the director commentary on the film, they say that Hans' original idea for the Burning Bush sequence had "choir and organ and stuff," but they asked for a re-write because that was stereotypical and they wanted something different for the scene. I love the final version, too, but I can't help wanting to know what the original sounded like.


Hybrid Soldier2016-07-04 21:12:50
Stay from Interstellar ?! :P


Mike2016-07-04 22:37:01
Quite possibly. Has Hans done any interviews for this score? I haven't found any.

Also a little interesting was that the directors mentioned Harry Gregson-Williams by name with regard to the "Line in the Sand" cue. As Rameses opens his eyes while holding the ring, one of them talks about how it was "scary" and "that was Harry Gregson-Williams' idea." :P


anonymous2016-07-04 22:58:47
on a somewhat related page... zimmer produced the first use of "all i ever wanted" sung by moses, and harry did the queen's reprise, right? or did harry do both?


Hybrid Soldier2016-07-04 23:39:34
Yep !

To be complete on POE, on the cuesheet HGW & RGW get 100% on the following cues :

HGW :
Hieroglyphic Nightmare (with Schwartz)
Moses Finds Cave
Line In The Sand

RGW :
Meeting Tzipporah
Camel Boogie
Meeting Pharaoh

Klaus got 0, lol, did some arranging...

Up until the early 2000s, HZ used to give 100% of some of the cues to additionals even when it used some of his music. But then all the rest of the cues were credited to HZ only while some were arranged by these guys... So I guess nowadays way of doing is not so bad...


Mike2016-07-05 00:11:29
Here's something I've wondered:

Do Hans' additional guys do substantially more than they did in the 90's / 2000's, or is it really a matter of crediting differently like your comment suggests? Cause it seems like Zimmer had a lot more "solo" credits on his scores back then (70% of cues, typically), whereas now he'll have only 2 or 3 on a given score. So did Hans' methodology change at some point and now he's more collaborative than he used to be, or is it mostly that now he credits "arrangers" and he didn't used to?


Hybrid Soldier2016-07-05 00:19:22
Well, I don't think it's much different, in proportion it's the same thing...

Remember in the 90s he had to do scores quite short, even big action films were 90 min long...

Now when you have an Inception, POTC or whatever, it's always between 2 & 2,5 hours of music to write... And relatively less time to write them ! lol

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2015-01-07 22:16:25
Found some credits for it, should look like that ! :)


Mike2015-01-08 00:24:58
Thank you! I've wanted these forever!


Mike2015-01-08 00:26:18
Where Stephen Schwartz is credited, it's because it contains some of his song material, but Zimmer did the cue, right?


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-08 11:42:03
Yeah there are quotes of the songs but Schwartz only did the songs...

But credit is due... :)


NM2015-01-08 22:29:13
Haha, the ones I guessed were HGW were spot on. I have no idea how I was able to tell.

Anonymous reply Replies: 9 || 2014-12-06 16:08:19
Zimmer made Such. An Epic. Arrangement. of Deliver Us for that last scene. My goodness. It gets me every time.


Mike2014-12-06 16:15:53
This is a sadly under-spoken-about score. It's probably one of my favorite Zimmer scores of the 1990s, and it uses his big, epic sound to really good effect. It just manages to complement the film really well, and it even has a nice Eastern flair sometimes.


Edmund Meinerts2014-12-06 23:43:12
This is something like my third-favorite Zimmer score. I don't think he ever quite managed to go as grandiose and BIG as this again, not even in Gladiator.

On a vaguely related note, wouldn't it have been hilarious if Ridley Scott had decided to reunite with Hans on Exodus: Gods and Kings of all things? :p


Hybrid Soldier2014-12-06 23:53:55
I would have loved to... :(


Adam2014-12-07 00:13:20
I would have loved that as well :(

Hey Hybrid, do you know why Ridley & Hans stopped working together? They were partners since Thelma & Louise. I mess their collaborations :'(


Ds2014-12-07 00:40:10
Edmund, I think PotC 3 and King Arthur are even BIGGER than this one :-)


Edmund Meinerts2014-12-07 02:08:36
Funny that you mention those two, Ds, they're my other two favorite Zimmer scores. ;)

Yeah, they're both pretty massive, but more in an action-score kind of way. I don't think King Arthur in particular hits quite the same grandly religious heights as Prince of Egypt. For overall size At World's End wins everything, though.


NM2014-12-07 09:07:50
Nice to see some appreciation for this score. I really love it.


Hybrid Soldier2014-12-07 09:10:39
Hans & Ridley isn't gonna happen ever again. They keep talking about each other a lot in interviews & stuff, they are still in contact, phoning or dining from time to time...

But the look on Hans' face when I asked him said it all... He just said they were "out of synch"...


Anonymous2015-01-07 22:36:28
Oh good grief. When "you" asked him?? LOL

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-29 19:54:28
Good to see this one up here!

NM reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-25 18:00:38
The theme for the two brothers is heartbreaking, I wish this score got more attention. There's some really great thematic writing.

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