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Rejected scores have gotten official releases before, such as Timeline by Jerry Goldsmith. So even if the Snyder Cut never gets released, I'd hope Junkie could potentially still work out a deal to get his original score out there. Keeping my fingers crossed.No Time to Die coming by Decca 27th March<br><br>https:// www.udiscovermusic.com/news/hans-zimmer-no- time-to-die-soundtrack/?fbclid=IwAR1UtjXatRpCQyXWJ9f7YYfT9Eb k5jy4d7XnlS6XzX4vTiOTxFfvQ0PWgaIIt all depends on whether WB releases the Snyder Cut OR no I don't even want to think about the other case & with the way things are going now it looks like we'll definitely get Zack Snyder's Justice League if not today then tomorrow and only then your question will have any meaning.<br>TL;DR the score will only happen after WB #ReleaseTheSnyderCutHybrid, Oscar Senen and Joan Martorell orchestrate the score ?Budapest, please :(
Same question here, is concert in Poland even concidered to occur?if the link doesn't work for some reason, the song is called Cliffhanger Sky High on youtubeHi All, sorry it took so long to upload, My friend helped me set up a youtube channel to upload tracks to. I am very inspired by the classic Zimmer Scores of the 90's. I envisioned A climactic rescue aboard A speeding train for this particular cue.<br>https://youtu.be/4WyMIcpqMRk <br>I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.<br>===============<br><br>No one dragged anything. <br><br>I briefly mentioned that franchise, among many other things you conveniently ignored (you do that a lot), to prove a simple point: that a director doesn't get to make 5 movies from the same franchise if people aren't enjoying his work. Simple as that. I never talked about the "quality" of each of those movies. Go see the comment again.<br><br>YOU picked up on this and started talking obsessively about the TF. <br><br><br>==============<br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes. <br>==============<br><br>Look at your first comment here, pal. Look at it good! Snarky, dismissive, almost trollish, and with a clear intention to provoke people. Let me quote it: "Another day, another Bay film that doesn't know what fun is." <br><br>I only "go after" people who can't share their opinions in a respectful, mature way. There are a lot of comments here I disagreed with. But I never confronted those people. Why? Because they know how to properly share an opinion. <br><br>I only go after people who provoke, make fun of someone/something and troll. I've never "attacked" a person who didn't deserve that kind of response. My post history here speaks for itself. <br><br><br>===================<br>And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br>===================<br><br>Nope. Not even close. <br><br>You're just bitter that I'm using quotes from proven, talented people like Spielberg who support Bay. What quotes can your side use? Just quotes from knucklehead film bloggers and critics who hate half of what Hollywood makes. <br><br>No one with an actual integrity and knowledge of the film business can dismiss what Bay has accomplished. You may not like his stuff, but to completely dismiss him as a filmmaker is.......moronic. Truth is, it's only small fries on the internet who are angry that their favorite mid-level directors aren't as big and successful as Bay.<br><br>That's really the bottom line. <br><br>Speaking of that, who is YOUR favorite filmmaker? Go ahead, share it with us. Let's see who is that PERFECT filmmaker you drool over.<br><br>I'm really curious.<br><br>==============<br>By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films. But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br>==============<br><br>Huh??<br><br>When did I said that box office success or box office failure means that a movie is good or bad?? I never that. So if you don't mind, stop putting words in my mouth.<br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>==================<br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't<br>==================<br><br><br>Kinda ironic coming from the person who ignored the majority of the stuff I said here. Careful cherry-picking, convenient ignoring of stuff, and putting words in my mouth is apparently what you like to do. <br><br><br>================<br>What do you mean "next time?" Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.<br>================<br><br>Uhhhh, that's because it IS a joke. Because it is not true and because it was posted with the clear intention to provoke. You are the Negative Nancy here, my friend. Not me. Jesus Christ, even your nickname tells people exactly what they can expect from you......"Cynical Makooti". <br><br><br>====================<br>I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument<br>====================<br><br>Oh, that's true....................you're certainly not winning this argument. I mean, that's obvious. <br><br>And..... I never posted a lie. Just because "your sources" claim something different doesn't mean it's the truth. Pacific Rim wasn't a success - considering the huge expactations and the fact that the movie's budget is $200 freakin' million - and they DID try to start a franchise with 300. They failed. <br><br><br>================<br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br>================<br><br>That's rich. Coming from the guy who calls himself "Cynical Makooti". The guy who now plays the victim, even though he was the one who started this with a childish, trollish comment. <br><br>Look at my first reply to you. I was jokingly mimicking your style. Intentionally. Then you tried to be a smartass with your next reply. But EVEN THEN, I responded in a normal way with my second post. After that........you unleashed your true self. <br><br>And now, you're acting like the victim: "Poor me, being attacked by a crazy Bay fan!" <br><br>So please, don't talk about self-awareness. It ain't working.<br><br><br><br>================<br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br>================<br><br>Haha, maybe you should read more Forbes. Take a look at what they said about the entire (already failed) Pac Rim universe. Read a bit more on how much money the studio lost from the first flick and why they actually went with a sequel. It ain't because the first one was a beloved hit. <br><br><br>=======<br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves. That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br>=======<br><br>Okay, I believe you. Now, would you please share the link to that statement from Paramount. <br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>=============<br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br>=============<br><br>Hey, it's certainly a better and more reasonable place than your world. A world where you completely dismiss and ignore the accomplishments of one of the biggest filmmakers out there.<br><br>What's your next claim? <br><br>That Donnie Trump is the best President in history?<br><br><br>Have a nice day!Do any of you think that Junkie's Justice League score will ever get released or leaked? I was really excited to hear how Junkie planned on developing the themes used in the prior DCEU movies. Especially the Batman themes from BVS. It's a damn shame how WB handled that film.
"Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1."<br><br>Newsflash: I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.  Only then did I treat them as fair game.  Considering they make up a third of his filmography, I don't see why I SHOULDN'T address them.  How convenient is it that bringing them up is only ever valid when YOU do it?<br><br>More to the point, I already said I thought his decline kicked in from Pearl Harbor onwards.  The TF films are just his rock bottom.<br><br>"So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic."<br><br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes.  And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br><br>Pain & Gain and 13 Hours, his supposedly best films, also have his lowest box office turnouts.  13 Hours was a flat-out bomb.  By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films.  But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br><br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't.<br><br>"Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything."<br><br>What do you mean "next time?"  Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.  You already have this method down.  You're just too dishonest to admit it.<br><br>Notice how I avoided accusing you of anything until AFTER you started outright lying about movies and flaunting it as objective fact.<br><br>You insulted ME first, pal.  I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument.  Not for your opinions, not for your celebrity crush, for being a disingenuous twat. <br><br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br><br>"Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality."<br><br>Then it's a good thing I never quoted a single one of those, let alone as objective proof, isn't it?<br><br>Man, appeal to authority, appeal to popularity, mistaking correlation for causation, slothful induction, strawmanning, I could make a bingo game outta this.<br><br>"So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?"<br><br>Not "according to me."  According to the studios that make the actual films.  And Forbes.  Remember Forbes?  You considered their word inarguable fact a couple posts ago.<br><br>https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/09/02/pacif ic-rim-and-more-domestic-flops-that-became-global-hits/#3f3e 914d7c18<br><br>Well whaddaya know?<br><br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br><br>That thing you said TF5 was but actually wasn't.<br><br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves.  That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br><br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br><br>Wow!  Just wow!ThxSeville, The Bait, Ambrose Welcomes Nyah, Chimera Myth, Beach Fight, Ambrose Dies.Can we stop? I agree with the other guy more in his points, but it's clear that this is gonna keep going nowhere if you're gonna be so overly defensive about something that you claim is merely subjective.But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br>======================<br><br><br>Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1. <br><br>So no, "challenging the viewer" is not about Transformers. You chose to focus on these movies. Not me. I was actually reffering to Bay movies like The Island and especially Pain and Gain. <br><br>But I guess you like to talk only about Transformers.....Good for you. But that's not how a discussion works. <br><br><br>===================<br>Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact. I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here. It's psychotic.<br>===================<br><br><br>So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic? <br><br>Wow! Just wow!<br><br>Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything. For you, that is apparently the normal behavior.<br><br><br>======<br>Bad movies make money. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.<br>=======<br><br>Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality. Also, a "bad" movie to you is the greatest movie for the guy walking next to you on the street. As Kevin Smith said: "Every movie is someone's favorite movie". <br><br>Let's try to keep that in mind.<br><br><br>============<br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br>============<br><br>Really?<br><br>Then what do you have to say about Pacific Rim 1. I present to you.......the pure numbers:<br><br>Budget: $200 million. And that doesn't include the marketing cost.<br>Worldwide gross: $411,002,906<br><br>So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?<br><br>Wow! Just.....wow!
Yeah lol back then only Harold was confirmed.Can you tell me a names of cues, that was been on Klaus website?Formality indeed. Complicated ! lol<br><br>You can bet Blake Neely didn't need anyone to "write" those 10 seconds !! lolI always found these credits to be a bit confusing. Klaus Badelt is credited on almost every cue, even when his themes don't appear and another additional composer is credited as well. I thought maybe it was just a formality that Zimmer and Badelt were credited everywhere (I mean, how much could they be involved on a cue like "Welcome to the Caribbean"?), but then "No real ship" and "Sword Fight Pt. 2" have no Badelt for some reason. Does someone know a bit more about this?well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon<br>
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Kingsman - The Secret Service
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 58'32
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  1. Manners Maketh Man (1:38)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson, Dominic Lewis
  2. The Medallion (2:14)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson, Dominic Lewis
  3. Valentine (2:25)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson, Dominic Lewis
  4. To Become A Kingsman (4:19)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  5. Pick A Puppy (2:13)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  6. Drinks With Valentine (2:40)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  7. Skydiving (3:37)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson, Dominic Lewis
  8. Shame We Had To Grow Up (1:56)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson, Dominic Lewis
  9. Kentucky Christians (2:37)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  10. Curious Scars And Implants (3:09)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  11. Toast To A Kingsman (1:56)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson, Dominic Lewis
  12. An 1815 Napoleonic Brandy (4:23)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson, Dominic Lewis
  13. Eat, Drink, And Paaaaarty (1:54)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  14. Calculated Infiltration (7:54)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  15. Out Of Options (1:48)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  16. Hand On The Machine (2:22)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  17. Finale (3:56)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson, Dominic Lewis
  18. Original Valentine Ideas (Demo Suite) (6:25)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson

    DIGITAL BONUS TRACK SINGLE
  19. Pomp And Circumstance (1:05)
    Edward Elgar, Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
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Eddie reply Replies: 0 || 2017-10-15 06:41:01
This was recently added back onto Spotify. Just an FYI for those of us who actually wanted to listen to this soundtrack for the past 2 years.

GB-fan reply Replies: 0 || 2015-09-07 15:26:04
Anybody knows anything about Henry Jackman scoring the new Ghostbusters movie next year?

FunnyML reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-20 20:26:03
Chronological order:
02 - The Medallion
03 - Valentine
01 - Manners Maketh Man
04 - To Become A Kingsman
05 - Pick A Puppy
07 - Skydiving
06 - Drinks With Valentine
08 - Shame We Had To Grow Up
09 - Kentucky Christians
10 - Curious Scars And Implants
11 - Toast To A Kingsman
12 - An 1815 Napoleonic Brandy
13 - Eat, Drink, And Paaaaarty
14 - Calculated Infiltration
15 - Out Of Options
Pomp And Cicumstance
16 - Hand On The Machine
17 - Finale
(18) - Original Valentine Ideas

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2015-04-18 20:14:41
Little "who did what" from the cuesheet... :)


Edmund Meinerts2015-04-18 22:14:49
Thanks! A shame it doesn't clarify the nature of Jackman and Margeson's collaboration better, but it's nice to know what Dom Lewis did at any rate. He's a really good composer, often seems to contribute to some of the best moments of whichever score he's working on at the time (Cap 2).


FunnyML2015-05-20 20:19:10
Did you use actual cuesheets or infos from the ASCAP database?

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-12 23:00:54
WOW the movie is fucking good!! And the score....wow, I can't take this in words what I feel about it :D

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2015-02-26 19:06:39
One thing that puzzles me about this score is that, on album, in many areas it sounds as if we were given the synth mock ups for the score, rather than the recorded cues.


Edmund Meinerts2015-02-26 19:22:40
Yes, well, I thought that about the entire Man of Steel score...

KT Koskela reply Replies: 9 || 2015-02-05 02:29:37
Now THIS is the score "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" should've been.


Hybrid Soldier2015-02-05 12:52:05
No way !

CATWS is one of my 2 fav' scores from 2014, it shouldn't have been any different !!


Ds2015-02-05 14:55:22
Hybrid, did someone hack your computer??


Edmund Meinerts2015-02-05 15:07:32
I certainly hope so. *shudders*

Anyways, yeah, this score sounds fun from what I've heard of it, but the style is all wrong for Winter Soldier. Not saying that score is good - it's dreadful for the most part - but this cool Bond/RC hybrid sound wouldn't have worked at all in that movie.


meta2015-02-05 16:53:51
i agree. Cap 2 is one of my most listened to scores of 2014


KT Koskela2015-02-05 17:44:49
Edmund, what I meant by that was that Captain America: The Winter Soldier should've been an epic, heavily-orchestral, fun-filled awesomefest that this score is showing us right now.


Hybrid Soldier2015-02-05 17:54:27
Thanks meta, I've stopped counting how many times I've listened to it... :)


Ds2015-02-05 18:23:21
Hybrid, what do you find so good and enjoyable in this score? I've struggled to hear it once entirely, and during the movie it did me absolutely nothing, just a serviceable but random background music... So I never played it again.

I think TASM2 is way more enjoyable when it comes to fun electronic music for superheroes...


Hybrid Soldier2015-02-05 18:50:47
Well first of all I love the film, it's one of the best Marvels with Iron Man 1 & Thor 1...

When I first heard the OST I was like "Wait, what ??!", then I saw the film... :)

Then, as a kid from the 90s I love the constant influence of dance/electronica from the 90s on Jackman (in the Cap suite). Love the Cap main theme, and there's a great balance between pure orchestral madness by Dom Lewis & electro action by Margeson. The Winter Soldier I find the theme pretty impressive with the character, and it's actually a "theme", not ambient, just great electronica (and Dom Lewis' voiced sampled lol). The film also has a big influence (no idea if it's direct, indirect or totally unwanted lol) from the Metal Gear Solid saga, and the Hydra theme (choir & all) has also an influence (coincidence ?) from some of HGW's cues from Metal Gear Solid 2 (which I love :)).

And those who wanted CA 2 to be "traditional", well I think there's quite enough of that in the score (check the amazing Dom Lewis End Credits arrangement of the main theme, John Williams' style lol).

There's nothing wrong I can say against this score. Then, it's my taste, works for me... That's all... :)


Edmund Meinerts2015-02-05 19:22:28
I really hope a complete score emerges for that one soon. There seemed to be a lot more good stuff in the film than made the album, which was apparently designed to showcase as much of the unappealing music as humanly possible. I feel like I can't really fairly judge the score yet.

However - SPOILERS - I think the Winter Soldier theme is terrible. Besides making me want to claw my ears off for the most part, it's a totally inappropriate "Why So Serious?" wannabe forced onto a completely different character. The Winter Soldier isn't an agent of chaos, he's a good person who's been mutilated into a weapon for evil, and the theme seems to only acknowledge that latter half of his character. The mid-credits stinger in particular was ridiculously mis-scored - that was a moment of Bucky regaining his humanity, why did they layer that Godawful screech over it?!?

The new theme is OK, but unnecessary. Silvestri's - twisted into darker, less WWII-ish variations, of course - would have done a much better job. The rest of the score on album is third-rate by-the-numbers RC action and suspense that could have been in anything. Some of it, eg "Fury", represents pretty much the worst that RC can get IMO.

What's frustrating about this score is that at times you can clearly hear Jackman's talent peeking out and when it's in its good moments, it's really quite good. It's just that when it's in its bad moments, it's really, REALLY bad, and there's way more bad moments than good moments on that album. Like I said, I'd love to hear a complete for this one.

Macarenox reply Replies: 2 || 2015-01-25 14:21:16
The composer for Uncharted 4 has been confirmed as Henry Jackman!

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KT Koskela2015-01-26 03:29:31
I know!


trent easton navarro2015-02-05 14:38:56
That's a shame! I loved Greg Edmonson scores for the previous three

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2015-02-04 18:31:36
Great score really, take a listen I added a couple of tracks ! :)

Macarenox reply Replies: 0 || 2015-01-22 16:42:36
I think the album will be as good as that of kick ass

KT Koskela reply Replies: 0 || 2015-01-21 20:22:59
Details have been announced on FilmMusicReporter!

Saurabh reply Replies: 0 || 2015-01-16 10:04:49
Loved the theme played in the bar fight clip.Strongly reminiscent of Barry's Bond scores.

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2015-01-15 19:33:39
This gonna be cool!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2014-11-27 23:33:49
This should be interesting ! :)


Ds2014-11-28 00:03:07
Yeah I can't wait for this movie and score! Matt Vaughn is an incredible director, and the music in his movies has been consistently cool (Kick-Ass, what a crazy score...) so I think we're in for a fantastic ride!

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