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Hans Zimmer is one of the biggest film composers working in the industry today.  He won an Academy Award for his work on The Lion King, and has been nominated for six other films including Gladiator, The Thin Red Line, and As Good As It Gets. With The Last Samurai he celebrates his 100th film score, and SoundtrackNet had an opportunity to talk with Hans a few weeks ago during a rare break in his busy schedule working on Something's Gotta Give.<br><br>You've scored many projects during your career, and The Last Samurai is being touted as your 100th film score…<br><br>Well, I'm terrible with math, so I'm not doing the counting. It could be more, it could be less – but apparently it's the 100th.<br><br>So how did you get involved with the project?<br><br>If you're lucky enough to get nominated for an Oscar, you get invited to the Oscar nominee's luncheon where they hand out these little nomination certificates. There are usually 150 people standing there, and people are invited up in alphabetical order, starting with the As. By the time they get to the Cs, everybody's already back at their table chatting and eating, and while the first people called get thunderous applause, you can imagine what it's like when your name starts with Z!<br><br>So Ed Zwick and I were standing there, waiting at one of these luncheons about four years ago, and we started talking to each other. I asked him what he was working on and he told me about this movie called The Last Samurai, which I thought sounded interesting and I asked him to send me a script. After the script arrived, I didn't hear from him for a long time and I thought he'd forgotten about me, not thinking about how difficult it is to set up a samurai movie these days. The other thing I liked about the project was that Tom Cruise was involved, so it was like returning home, since I've scored a bunch of his movies – I knew we were going to have a good time.<br><br>Did it end up that way?<br><br>Ed and his editor Steve Rosenblum are such gentlemen, so together and professional, and they basically did one cut of the film, screened it, and everyone loved their work. So after this, they had plenty of time to come and hang with me, and while I usually love the re-cutting process because it's a diversionary tactic to keep the director and editor out of my life, these guys were great to have around. <br><br>Of course, my sense of paranoia made me think that something was going wrong all the time, waiting for the other shoe to drop, as it were, but it never happened. Ed phoned this morning and I thought, "Oh my god – rewrite!" It's just how my brain works. But I think he and I feel a bit odd now: we've been seeing each other every day for months, and suddenly we're done. I completely understand why people have a problem finishing a movie, because there's something really nice about the process – completion is far more boring.<br><br>For Samurai, you used Japanese percussions and ethnic woodwinds, without getting too 'Japanese'.<br><br>My problem is that I feel Japanese music is really inaccessible to Western ears, and I was really struggling with this film initially, trying to figure out what I was doing. This idea popped into my head for using Western-style themes, but applying a Japanese aesthetic to them, which sounds great of course, until I had to ask myself what I meant! Actually, I think it's just my way of not overloading certain things with too many colors, or being geometrically precise about my cues and not making them too flowery.<br><br>The Tom Cruise character is one of those nasty drunks at the beginning, who obviously has some serious problems he's trying to deal with, or not deal with. He's obnoxious and restless, suffering sleepless nights and is very un-Tom. For me, this character's journey was about his need to earn tranquility and peace, so within the score there's this very romantic, overblown and passionate theme. It's like a juvenile way of dealing with life and death – the pain and liebestod.<br><br>However, to contrast with these very relentless themes, there are a number of stark, formal and sober pieces, because I wanted to take Tom's character on a journey. He comes from America and ends up in this foreign place where he doesn't speak the language or understand the culture. But at the end of the movie, I want the audience to think that there isn't a more beautiful place for him to be, that he is at home in Japan and finally at peace.<br><br>There are many useless acts of bravery we do out of misguided romanticism, and this movie is full of courageous and dignified acts of bravery. So I wanted to play off these acts, since both the American and Japanese cultures have a concept of heroism, and I just wanted to see if I could play with the nature of the two different concepts.<br><br>So you didn't want to do the stereotypical Japanese thing...<br><br>Absolutely not! Take Akira Kurosawa's Ran, for example, which has this brilliant score where Takemitsu writes Western music, but with an Eastern accent. Somebody asked me a few days ago why As Good As It Gets was European – why did I write a European score for a quintessentially American story? For me, it's because Jack Nicholson was crazy in the movie, and I felt one of the great things about America is how they always think we Europeans are crazy. So by writing a European-styled score, it's my way of saying that Jack is crazy, but it's alright!<br><br>How do you feel about people who criticize your work for not fitting into the time period, like Gladiator?<br><br>The reason I take these jobs is because I'm interested in foreign cultures, and every time I get to work on a movie I'm thrown into the adventure of whatever that culture is, the time, and wherever the story's taking place. So one of the things I'm very careful about is not to be historically correct to the culture, but, on the other hand, not to insult the underlying aesthetics of that culture either. I remember watching Chariots of Fire and thinking how brilliantly the music worked, never missing that it wasn't period instruments! I grew up listening to Bach played by a symphony orchestra – it's the wrong sized orchestra with the wrong instruments, but I don't think that's the point.<br><br>With Gladiator, Pietro Scalia brought in a CD saying "this is Ancient Roman music," and I said, "Says who? You went to the Ancient Roman music store and bought an Ancient Roman music CD? Bullshit!" We're not anthropologists. Look at he costumes Ridley Scott had: they were more Napoleonic than Roman, which was perhaps fitting since Napoleon had stolen all of his good ideas from the Romans regarding how to make his generals look cool – and so did Hitler! So I got criticized for making the "Entry into Rome" cue too Leni Riefenstahl – but that was the joke! I am allowed to have a sense of humor in my music!<br><br>Earlier this summer your credit on Pirates of the Caribbean was "Score Overproduced by". What was the deal with that?<br><br>Well, I thought honesty was a virtue! But seriously, Jerry Bruckheimer quite rightly asked me not to give him "that old-fashioned Pirate music," and Gore Verbinski, who I adore and did The Ring with, said, "Well, it is a pirate movie, so we have to disguise it." In the end, I spent a day and a half writing tunes, Klaus Badelt wrote a lot of stuff, and we rolled up our sleeves, got drunk, behaved in a debauched way, and produced a score!<br><br>There was a lot of criticism regarding that score, but in the end it had to serve the film - which it did. You seem to get a lot of criticism on any project you do.<br><br>I had the misfortune of going onto the Film Score Monthly web site recently to look something up and vanity made me type in my own name. I suddenly realized that you can't ever get it right. Who do people want me to be? The guy that writes Matchstick Men? Or the guy that writes The Rock? Or the guy that writes Driving Miss Daisy? My need is ultimately to write for myself. I mock myself and I'm ironic about the way I speak about it because if I take it too seriously, it would be a pompous and boring thing to do. But at the same time I take each note I write very seriously – none of them are random.<br><br>The Internet Movie Database always lists you as being attached to multiple projects, so I was curious, what's Sharktail?<br><br>I complained to Jeffrey Katzenberg that I couldn't cross any more Red Seas, or deal with any more horses that can't speak – I wanted to do one of the fun animated movies instead. There's also a hip-hop element in Sharktail, and I haven't been there yet, so it's new territory! King Arthur is still in production, and I literally just got the first bits of footage just before you came here.<br><br>Are you working on all of these projects simultaneously?<br><br>I'm thinking about them! I'm also working with Jim Brooks on his new comedy, Spanglish.<br><br>And speaking of comedies, you recently did Matchstick Men for Ridley, which had a very Nino Rota vibe to it....<br><br>And I gave him credit! I thought, what if Nino had written the theme and I was just doing the variations? But I bet I'm going to get criticized for that because it's not like Gladiator.<br><br>So when did you last have a vacation?<br><br>Well, I went to Japan for a couple of days at the end of November for the Japanese premiere of Samurai, but look, I love what I do! In January I'll travel to Morocco because Ridley will be shooting his next movie, Kingdom of Heaven, so that's like a holiday!<br><br>My family and I are going away at Christmas, and what we used to do would be to rent a house in the mountains and go on these skiing holidays. It would be a crappy house, not as nice as the one we live in, my wife was still going to the market, and we're still washing our plates – so it wasn't a vacation, it was a lot of work! It's taken us a long time, but we just figured it out: we're not practical with vacations – we're staying at hotels! But while the Zimmer family isn't talented when it comes to vacations, we're talented when it comes to work!<br><br>I sat through Samurai the other day, and for the first time watched the whole movie from top to tail with everything finished and completed. It felt really good, better than a vacation. But luckily there were enough things wrong for me to think that I learned something from the experience, and now I can't wait for the next project to try these new ideas out.<br><br>The soundtrack to The Last Samurai is available from Elektra Records, and the film is currently in theaters. Matchstick Men is available on Varese Sarabande Records.<br><br>With thanks to Chet Mehta at Chasen & Co, Jason Cienkus at Warner Brothers, and Nina Lynch and Mark Wherry at Media Ventures for helping with this interview. And, of course, special thanks to Hans.Mulan get his release... through Disney+, 4th September.Mulan is being released on sept 4th. Can't wait to hear Harry's score!!!!Here's an interview about Last Samurai from Soundtrack.net https: //www.soundtrack. net/content/article/?id=112You can find an interview with Hans on his process for TLS on soundtrack.net somewhere, back in 2003 or 2004
The tracklist they posted has 58 tracks and yours contains only 54<br>interesting thing, He never really spoke about Last Samurai. but you have to realize, even when He speaks, its not always the truth. <br><br>The only thing I know, in 2013 doing press for Rush, He really said the hardest job was Last Samurai, well its not true according to himself, if you watch the behind the scenes stuff from Matchstick Men from 2003, right there He says that he was working on 3 huge films, (tears of the sun / Pirates / last samurai) and Mathstick men was the absolute hardest for him.<br><br>also Ed Zwick talks about working with Hans on the dvd commentary sometimes, but nothing really fancy.<br><br>Im sure there is an interview for this film with him, since he was at the premierI am struggling to find an interview where Hans speaks about this soundtrack. Does it even exist? <br>I spent the last hours digging but nothing. I always desired to hear some comments about it, like he does for the other works he's done.<br>I know it's a far stretch for Hans To release docu scores, but am really curious as to what Brave Miss World, Believer and Jalous of the Birds sound like...<br><br><br>@Mephariel<br>You can find Great Bear Rainforest on bleedingfingersmusic.com under Anze RozmanMondo only offered to send me a return label and a refund. No info yet on if they plan to fix it. :-/
Mine arrived today and is definitely sped up.LOL klaus badelt hardly composed pirates 1You know what? I love the booklet credits! Klaus Badelt is the same guy who scored Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl.Thanks Hybrid soldier for the good news<br>I can't wait to see the documental film and hear the score of lorne balfe & hans zimmer.A score will be released.<br><br>You can always count on Lorne for that. It's in the works.
What was the last Zimmer documentary score that they released outside of BBC? <br><br>I am still waiting for The Great Bear Rainforest.I hope they can the soundtrack release for "Rebuilding Paradise" composed by Hans zimmer & Lorne balfe, including an original song for the film. I hope there is a possibility that they will release the score.How to get this at all?Any news about Rebuilding Paradise soundtrack?@Hybrid:<br>Any news about a release for Ron Howard "Rebuilding Paradise" soundtrack by Hans ans Lorne. The documentary airing today. Any info will be much Appreciated.
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Man Of Steel (Complete Score)
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  1. Krypton (2:58)
  2. Zod Disbands Council (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  3. The Codex (3:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  4. Goodbyes - Launch Preparation (2:02)
  5. Surender The Codex (1:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  6. The Launch (2:36)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  7. Zod Is Captured (3:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  8. Krypton Destroyed - Kal To Earth (1:58)
  9. Oil Rig Rescue (1:55)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  10. Young Clark Freaks (2:49)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  11. Bus Rescue (Part 1) (0:42)
  12. Bus Rescue (Part 2) (1:01)
  13. I Just Wanted To Help (3:47)
  14. On The Road Again - Meet Lois (1:32)
  15. The Anomaly (0:47)
  16. The Scout Ship (5:16)
  17. The Scout Ship Takes Off (1:31)
  18. Who Are You? (3:47)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  19. First Flight (4:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  20. Lois Investigates (1:28)
  21. The Tornado (2:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  22. Homecoming (2:33)
  23. UFO - You Are Not Alone (4:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  24. Lois Arrested (0:43)
  25. Who Is This Kal Person? (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  26. What's On Your Mind? (2:31)
  27. Alien Ship Arrives (1:35)
  28. Surrender To Faora (0:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  29. Lois & Superman Brought Before Zod (1:30)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  30. Zod's Story (Part 1) (2:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  31. Zod's Story (Part 2) (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  32. Alien Ships Head To Kansas (2:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  33. Escape From Ship (4:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Atli Örvarsson, Andrew Kawczynski
  34. Superman Rescues Mother - Smallville Duel (10:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  35. This Man Is Not Out Enemy (1:57)
  36. Release The World Engine (3:03)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  37. Terraforming (0:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  38. We Have A Plan - World Engine Destroyed (9:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Steve Mazzaro
  39. We Did It (0:45)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  40. Destoy This Ship - Faora Attacks (4:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Atli Örvarsson, Steve Mazzaro
  41. Kiss (1:05)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  42. Final Confrontation (4:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Christian Vorländer
  43. Battle Continues (4:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Andrew Kawczynski
  44. Clark Kent, Reporter (5:26)
  45. New Superman Suite (31:53)
    Hans Zimmer
  46. General Zod Suite (7:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  47. Action Drums Suite (3:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  48. Arcade Suite (7:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  49. Earth Suite (6:13)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  50. First Flight (Alternate) (4:18)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
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GermanRCPFan reply Replies: 8 || 2019-08-13 17:54:48
I think that Lorne Balfe write some material for that film because some of cues are similar to him and this film is one of the biggest blockbusters of that year and this is hardly to imagine if Hans Zimmer would write it without his best arranger Lorne Balfe. It's only my opinion


Mike2019-08-13 22:02:51
Lorne didn't work on MoS.


Anonymous2019-08-13 22:15:09
what mike said


Soldierofrome2019-08-14 00:30:27
i ask him 6 years ago, he didnt work.


Mr.Unbreakable2019-08-14 00:56:42
I still don't understand how Hans didn't call Lorne for Mos and BvS.


Anonymous2019-08-14 01:21:43
it’s simple: he never picked up the phone and dialed


HunterTech2019-08-14 04:54:46
Or better yet: Hans simply thought Balfe established himself well enough at that point, and decided instead to bring on people that needed more experience at that time.


Mr.Unbreakable2019-08-14 05:44:50
Although I like the soundtrack, I think Jackman, Djawadi or Balfe would have worked better than Mazzaro or Kawczynski


GermanRCPFan2019-08-14 08:37:44
So, I was wrong.
Mr.Unbreakable, I agree with you. If Hans hired that people soundtrack would be better. It's good anyway, but would be better.

P.S. The main action motif (half of score)) inspired by King Arthur's Main Theme - "Woad To Ruin"

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-16 14:05:16
Added a couple of Mazzaro credits taken from his new website...


Anonymous2017-04-16 21:57:10
Nice! I see you've added them on the OST page too. The mystery is slowly becoming clearer.

kevin reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-22 13:40:02
Can anyone tell me where i can purchase or get the complete score of man of steel like the one above


Anonymous2016-12-22 17:28:27
Hey, kevin. Nowhere you can purchase this complete score, as it's an unreleased bootleg, Google for it.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2016-11-12 22:09:09
Has anyone else noticed that the last 2 minutes of the Zod suite sound very similar to the last 2 minutes of "We Are Now the Gods" from The Last Airbender?


Edmund Meinerts2016-11-13 15:17:20
Can't really say I agree.


mpolonest123 2016-11-13 17:34:48
Perhaps it's just me, the chords and tempo sounded close enough although the structure is different.


CWMChapman2016-11-15 00:43:27
Yeah I can hear a slight similarity, very interesting.

Cap reply Replies: 4 || 2016-10-17 13:38:32
Actually thought all the BvS cues were unreleased but appears Wreckage and The Desert are the only ones.


Bro2016-10-19 22:11:48
He's also pitched the audio down by approx 10% using a program like audacity, which cannot be reversed without severe defects/distortion/artifacts in the audio. Which kills it for me.


Ahmad2016-10-19 23:36:24
To me the only unreleased cue is "Wreckage"! The rest were actually released. "The Desert" is just edited "Blood Of My Blood", "Post Apocalypse" is "Must There Be A Superman?", "Thug Fight" is "Fight Night", "Underground Torture" is an edited part of "New Rules". In case anyone didn't know that already.

Some of the cues I wish were released are:
Bruce checking the drive (Meta humans)
Bruce training
Variations of "Day Of The Dead" (when superman arrives at the capitol building, when he fights doomsday, the cue right after "Black and Blue" when he flight to go fight Lex, Supes statue vandalism)
Variations of Lex's theme (Lex Corp Helipad scene - choir parts)



mpolonest123 2016-10-20 00:51:28
Actually the first 30 or so seconds of Post Apocalypse are unreleased, although it's nothing substantial.


Everan2016-10-20 15:47:48
I think some tiny bits of Desert and Post Apocalypse are used in the extended cut, just to add those few seconds of cut content. Wreckage is definetely new, and the start of Post Apocalypse sounds a bit different in the film due to the World Engine sound effect.

Leo reply Replies: 5 || 2016-10-19 07:22:27
I recall Zimmer claiming he composed the final battle sequence between Superman and General Zod, yet here we are, with a co credit with Andrew Andrew Kawczynski and Junkie XL. Pretty interesting, but a tad issapointed. :P


Leo2016-10-19 07:24:21
*Andrew Kawczynsk
*Dissapointed.


Leo2016-10-19 07:24:48
*Kawczynski


Edmund Meinerts2016-10-19 09:52:32
*Disappointed

;)


Leo2016-10-19 11:53:29
Indeed. xD


Mike2016-10-19 15:18:17
*sigh* I don't mean to sound like a bitter curmudgeon, but here goes, for everybody... :)

Hans *did* compose the final battle sequence! The entire "If You Love These People" / "Battle Continues" cue is written 90% of the way in the MoS Sketchbook suite. Even the final product may be 98% Zimmer. We don't know what Andrew Kawcynski contributed, but it may or may not have been substantial. A

nd even if he made all the changes from the suite version to the cue version, we need to remember a point that has been made several times here: Hans co-writes most of the cues! So even if someone else contributed, *he* still wrote it, too. It's not like he just sits back while everyone else goes to work on things.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 11 || 2016-10-15 14:24:45
I added a bunch of Andrew K credits here...


Mike2016-10-15 17:26:16
So on OST this translates to "DNA," "Are You Listening, Clark?" and "If You Love These People." Nice! Does he have more or is this it for him?


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-15 18:03:57
I don't know but he now has a website and a soundcloud where he put a lot of stuff. Check it out !


Mike2016-10-15 18:39:15
What is "Desperation" from TASM2? Is that an unreleased cue or a suite? I love it!


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-15 19:00:04
A lot of music is rejected, unused or left behind on every film... But it's totally great yeah, as well as his variation on the Terminator Theme !!


The Trope2016-10-17 10:00:01
Hybrid, would you be able to post a link to Andrew Kawczynski's site? I just can't seem to find it.


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-17 10:09:52
Is everyone so clumsy on the internet ? Apparently so !

Just click on Andrew's profile here, there's a link to his site !

And I wonder what will happen when you will try to find the soundcloud link on that very site ! :O


Mike2016-10-17 15:12:31
Every composer on this site, click on them and find the "www." link. There ya go. :P


Gilvane Cezar2016-10-17 17:27:16
https://soundcloud.com/andrewkawczynski
:)


The Trope2016-10-19 02:31:43
Thank you so much.


Sanders 2016-10-19 06:16:20
Hybrid - will there be a score release for War On Everyone ? I heard a cue on Twitter and love it ???????


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-19 10:16:07
No there won't be... :/

Cap reply Replies: 3 || 2016-10-17 01:15:26
How is no one talking about the unreleased cues on Kawczynski's site?? BvS, Chappie, Spiderman 2!


Russel2016-10-17 02:51:20
Look below your post...lol


Bro2016-10-17 06:35:48
What's his website, it doesn't seem to appear on google at all.


Bro2016-10-17 06:57:01
found it, nevermind.

groy42 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-07-23 02:49:05
Can someone point me in the right direction so if I were to happen to listen to these tracks where could I find something like this?

desch reply Replies: 8 || 2015-03-09 10:28:32
Great, however "First Flight (Film Mix)" doesn't correspond the actual film version.

In the final part, the violin stem is missing. Instead of this we get the electric guitar. Is this another case of the "No-time-for-caution-problem"?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-09 10:41:49
Yep, and all is here, the mix is just buried a little... Get over that kind of things, people... lol


Mortifer V.2015-03-09 11:59:17
It's not even close to being a NTFC problem.


Medigo2015-03-09 13:02:55
The violin stem is clearly there in the track
its just not easy to hear


Mike2015-03-09 14:23:10
Yeah, at this point, we just need to get over it. It's a much closer mix to the film version than the Flight track on CD, and it's much MUCH closer to its film counterpart than No Time for Caution was. The strings are definitely there, louder than on album. Be happy!


desch2015-03-09 15:14:29
Hybrid, thank you very much for clarification.

It's interesting though how this discussion leads to aggressive reactions. There's no need to be rude.

My comment was rather meant as indication, not to moan about differences between the versions.

I've listened to the film mix again and indeed the violin stem is there. I was just a bit confused because this stem is much louder in the actual film mix.

The term "No-time-for-caution-problematic" is to be unerstood in a general manner. I chose the Interstellar example to give this problem a name because it's the most known and most drastic example of differences between film and CD version.

Again, I have to apologize if my comment led to any inconveniences but there's no need to get aggressive and rude.

Now, let's get back to listen to some good MOS music ...


Anonymous2015-03-09 17:05:51
Inceptions 'dont think about elephants' is a much better NTFC case anyway, heh


Philip2015-03-09 18:08:08
Where in this First Flight "Film Mix" does this violin stem appear?


Anonymous2016-03-05 16:13:01
Old discussion and maybe this is too off-topic but one film-version cue that's even more troubling than NTFC for me is the Batman Chased cue... :P At least the core of NTFC is the same as the film version, they changed changed the organ emphasis. Same with the Flight alternate.

Scorefan reply Replies: 5 || 2015-03-10 23:13:27
Hybrid, one question will be available in the future the original 35 minutes hans sketchbook?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-10 23:26:10
No idea, don't think so.


Mike2015-05-08 16:03:58
Hans said in one interview that it got "really boring" after a while. or something to that effect, which is why he cut it back. But the stuff not there is undoubtedly in one or more of the other tracks. That tends to be how "shortened suites" work.


mpolonest1232016-01-24 17:50:19
Wrong post, sorry


@Hybrid, any idea what the cut music was? If Hans thought it was "boring" maybe it just was ambient filler stuff....


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-24 17:51:03
Hasn't changed, I still have no idea... lol


mpolonest1232016-01-24 18:39:17
Hahaha gotcha!

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 1 || 2015-07-26 20:10:45
I couldn't stop loving and listening to the Man of Steel complete score!


mpolonest1232016-01-24 17:48:14
@Hybrid, any idea what the cut music was? If Hans thought it was "boring" maybe it just was ambient filler stuff....

Joshua reply Replies: 3 || 2015-08-20 18:17:51
@Hybrid, On twitter Eric Whitacre confirmed he was working on Hans Zimmer score for the next four months. That wouldn't happen to be for a certain super hero film would it?


Hybrid Soldier2015-08-20 18:29:13
Inferno.....


Joshua 2015-08-20 19:18:09
Cool, thank you sir.


Leo2015-08-21 03:37:54
HELL YES!

Duderino reply Replies: 2 || 2015-08-03 05:04:59
Hey there Hybrid.

How does one listen to this whole score?


Evenstar2015-08-04 00:16:03
With ears probably


Mr Tweedy2015-08-05 00:07:01
@Evenstar
Love your comment !

Mike reply Replies: 6 || 2015-04-04 17:37:18
So Atli worked on Launch Preparation (Goodbye My Son), eh? Funny, I guessed that all along. lol.

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Hybrid Soldier2015-04-04 17:51:50
I didn't put it here for him.


Anonymous2015-04-04 17:54:06
haha fail comment


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-04 17:58:52
I put it for his sis' ! :P


Mike2015-04-04 18:04:33
Right... :P

Did she write her vocal part, then?


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-04 19:00:02
Nope it's to show her vocals on projects, that's all... :)


She's really nice, Hilda ! :)


Mike2015-04-04 20:03:51
You should do similar uploads for Lisa Gerrard, and maybe Dom Lewis for things like TASM2... :)

Dudu reply Replies: 3 || 2015-03-15 21:17:58
Hi Hybrid,
Since no one asked...why were you thanked in the booklet??And did you know your name would appear before the release? ;-)


Mike2015-03-15 21:47:51
You're right. I totally missed that one.


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-15 23:18:11
I wrote Zod's theme... I admit...


lol


No it was just for H-Z.com... ;)


Mike2015-03-15 23:19:20
Well, Hybrid, in that case, I hate to say it, but the Zod theme is my least favorite part of this score... :P

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 3 || 2015-03-12 14:34:18
Final Confrontation and Battle Continues are the mother of all third acts in film soundtracks.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-12 15:04:05
"I Don't Think Now's the Best Time" and the motherfucking Mount Doom sequence beg to freaking differ.


RealFfingMusic2015-03-12 18:12:32
King of Pride Rock, Chevalier de Sangreal, WOrld's Fattest Fertiliser Salesman, God Save Us, Dumbledore's Farewell, It's Our Fight, Finale (Train Fight), Where We're Going, blah-la-blah-blah . . . each after his/her own taste. Hooray . . . zzzz.


Zimson2015-03-12 18:37:01
My music is better than yours!!!!111
However, I agree that those are the best parts of the score (together with Launch). Ffing Rocks!

ei18 reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-10 21:41:09
What do the numbers mean in the track names for complete scores? For instance, "3m15b First Flight"? thanks!


Anonymous2015-03-10 21:48:01
Like the film themselves when they are delivered to theatres, the music comes on reels. the first number represents the reel the music is on. The m represents "music", or "cue". The next number represents what cue # it is. And "b" means it's the second parts of the cue. There was most likely an "a".

so 3m15b = reel 3, cue 15b


ei182015-03-10 21:50:56
Gotcha, thanks!

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 8 || 2015-03-08 15:25:43
Thanks Soldier. The complete film score of Man of Steel is ultimately the BEST I've ever listened to! Kudos to Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, and Steve Mazzaro!


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 18:05:07
Best ever...best....evvverr.............kkkkkrkrkr


Mike2015-03-08 18:15:52
lol...It's a good score IMO, but the fanboyism makes me laugh. :P


T-Mann0362015-03-08 20:35:00
After listening over 3 hours of the Man of Steel complete score, it's extremely difficult for me to find which track was the best. All of them are the best, IMHO, because it truly match the action and emotion directly from the film.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-09 09:23:37
Yes, how revolutionary of Zimmer to write a score that matches the action and emotion of the film!


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-09 09:54:30
I apologize for being such an asshole.


T-Mann0362015-03-09 15:25:11
Apologies accepted.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-10 09:58:28
I don't apologize for jack shit, because that wasn't me.


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 12:01:13
Ah! the old namesake controversy.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2015-03-08 14:06:08
I think Atli did Bus Rescue (Part 1), The Scout Ship, Faora Attacks... But I'll never know I guess... lol


T-Mann0362015-03-09 20:16:51
If your assumption is true, Soldier, you could be right. After listening to Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters and The Code (Complete Score), I have to say that Atli have done Hans' homework and given an A+.

Mike reply Replies: 20 || 2015-03-08 15:52:27
"Clark Kent suite" - is that "This is Clark Kent" off the album?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-08 15:55:31
Yeah, we'll it's a just a part of the Sketchbook with alt percs at the end, probably to make it available on the 1 CD version of the OST, for those not getting the Sketchbook...


Mike2015-03-08 16:03:42
Also nice to have Escape From Ship, SFX-free. I find it interesting that not many people talk about the Earth Suite. It's quite nice, IMO.


Adam2015-03-08 17:04:31
Oh my God this was leaked!?!? Can't believe it!


Anonymous2015-03-08 18:23:13
Earth Suite is just Earth off the OST. Nothing new


Ds2015-03-08 18:46:17
Mike why are you laughing? Zimmer fanboyism is the most beautiful form of fanboyism and day after day I feel proud of being a fanboy of Hans :-D


Adam2015-03-08 18:51:21
Me too, Ds!! :D


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 19:18:48
Fanboyism is not something to be proud of. You can be a fan of somebody without blindly praising every score they put out and saying it's the greatest thing ever written (until, of course, the next one comes out). There's plenty of stuff by John Powell that I'll be the first to admit isn't that great (Fair Game...zzzzz) - doesn't stop me being a fan of his! Same with Hans. I'm really not trying to take the fun out of music or anything, but the tiniest amount of critical listening really does go a long way, IMO.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 19:20:57
Also, Ds, I should say that I don't think YOU are a "fanboy" in the negative sense of the term. You're certainly enthusiastic about Hans but you also have actual things to say about the music beyond "OMG SO AWESOME BEST EVR" - that's really all I ask. :)


Marcos2015-03-08 20:00:49
is not Fanboyism, is just the fact that at last we got something we have been waiting for long long time. Besides is the same music of the album but expanded, there is not too much new to say about the score.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 20:08:23
A person saying that this is the BEST score they had ever heard (based on one listen to the complete score) isn't fanboyism? I get that people are excited to have this...but come on.


Mike2015-03-08 20:12:12
Ds, what Edmund said. :) Trust me when I tell you I'm a huge fan of Zimmer. Most of my scores—heck, most of my music, maybe!—come from him, but as Edmund pointed out, it's good to appreciate someone's music AND be able to listen somewhat critically, beyond just "OMG GREATEST SCORE EVER".

I admit, "fanboy" tendencies come out in me from time to time (like when this score first came out...I thought it was the greatest thing). But largely due to commenters like Edmund, and much as I almost always disagree with it, sites like Filmtracks, I now approach scores with both an enthusiastic and a critical ear. I still like MoS a lot and listen to it often, for example, but I now also notice some of its faults more clearly than I did at first. :)


Marcos2015-03-08 20:19:19
well . . for me is really the best!, after the dark knight trilogy of course. :P . All Zimmer's works with Nolan (as producer in this case) curiosly are his best works, and i say this musically speaking


Adam2015-03-08 20:35:15
It is healthy to be able to criticize HZ because there's too many people who drool over all his works and say he's the best!! Does it count if I say Pirates 4 is horrible? :P


Mike2015-03-08 20:37:49
Eh, idk...doesn't EVERYONE agree about POTC4 being horrible? ;)


Marcos2015-03-08 20:44:20
I swear , i listened All Zimmer's works (released of course) , but i never listened even one album of Pirates of Caribbean, i don't know why . . is rare because i know that it's one of his most important works, but some of this does not appeal to me


Adam2015-03-08 21:10:00
That's why I asked if it counts about Pirates 4! :D

I may have to think of some other Zimmer scores that aren't great. Hmm this can take a while!


Ds2015-03-08 22:02:29
Well Edmund I think you are right. Even if in this case I ´m almost incapable of criticizing any Zimmer score. Even if some of his output surprised me in a bad way, I learned one lesson: Zimmer is a visionary and I have always ended up liking his music. Always. Maybe a few days or weeks or even months later. In other words I choose to trust his talent over my (limited) musical taste. The same applies to Thomas Bergersen as well, but that´s it.

But yeah I am also a bit tired of people screaming that every new score is his best ever. Everyone knows his best are King Arthur and At World´s End :-p


Medigo2015-03-08 22:16:37
Hans can hardly be blamed for how POC4 ended up


Mike2015-03-08 22:17:57
True. And Hans himself apologized that anyone had to listen to it (it does have good themes, where new music is concerned, too, so it's not all terrible).


Adam2015-03-08 22:27:32
I think of PotC4 as like a "best of" from the trilogy lol!

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 15:10:03
If there was one complete score I was eagerly waiting for, it was definitely this one. So freaking amazing action music, Escape From Ship, Smallville Duel (10 minutes of violence!!), Final Confrontation... I'm delighted. What a week, thanks HZ!

Scott reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 14:02:19
This is so much better than the album.

RealFfingMusic reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-08 13:13:58
Does anybody (@Hybrid) know if there's any difference between "Terraforming" in OST and "38. We Have a Plan - World Engine"?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-08 13:17:03
From what I remember the mix is slightly different. And well on OST the mastering is fucked up... lol


Anonymous2015-03-08 13:25:22
As usual we just had to wait for the "foot warmer" in order to get the presentation the score deserves - both in terms of content and, surprising, mastering. /rant.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 12:27:45
I guess this is as good a time as any to give this score a second chance. :)

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 12:03:42
YES!!! We waited for this 2 Years and now I can't stop listening :D

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