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I like this music!The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....Some of the action bits, yeah......
This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lolThis right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me know
The clips are on his Facebook page.2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me tooExcited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)
God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?
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Hans ZimmerGeoff ZanelliRupert Gregson-WilliamsLorne Balfe
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The Lone Ranger (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 127'14
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  1. Logos - Exhibit (1:33)
  2. Meet Old Tonto (1:14)
  3. This Is A Robbery (1:16)
  4. Building Railroad (1:13)
  5. The Rangers (1:02)
  6. Meet John (1:05)
  7. Cavendish (0:35)
  8. Cavendish Gang - Gun (2:05)
  9. Gang Boards - Cavendish Escapes (3:59)
  10. Runaway Train (5:30)
  11. Arrest Trio (0:42)
  12. John & Becca (1:50)
  13. Tonto Chant (0:48)
  14. Ride Out - Spirit Horse (2:53)
  15. Tracking (1:30)
  16. No Cover (0:53)
  17. Ambush (1:29)
  18. Cannibal (2:37)
  19. Dead Rangers (1:28)
  20. Old Tonto Pre Burial (0:36)
  21. Burial (1:04)
  22. Spirit Horse - John (1:08)
  23. Poop (0:21)
  24. John's Vision (0:31)
  25. Precarious Perch (0:24)
  26. Sneaking (0:38)
  27. Silver Bullet (0:41)
  28. Justice (1:58)
  29. Windingo Getting Away (0:32)
  30. Silver Vision (0:21)
  31. Leaving Reds (1:58)
  32. Comanche On Ridge (0:42)
  33. Ranch Attack (0:44)
  34. Embers (1:19)
  35. Barn Burn - Stand Off (2:51)
  36. Limp Crow (0:17)
  37. Wrong Brother (1:12)
  38. Valley Of Tears (0:48)
  39. Collins & Dead Horse (2:08)
  40. Because I Am Savage (2:02)
  41. Comanche Border Train (1:18)
  42. Old Tonto Pauses (0:15)
  43. Young Tonto - Silver Discovery (2:02)
  44. Aftermath Village Slaughter (2:05)
  45. Scorpions (2:11)
  46. Where The River Begins (0:47)
  47. Frank In Tunnel (0:27)
  48. Cave Walkout (0:47)
  49. Finish Him (3:16)
  50. John Captures Cavendish (0:31)
  51. Alexander The Great (0:53)
  52. Prayer (2:09)
  53. Stupid White Man (0:30)
  54. Supply Car (1:00)
  55. Daddy Dead (4:38)
  56. Build To Execution (3:27)
  57. Night Mine (2:58)
  58. Aftermath - Wear The Mask (2:08)
  59. Ignition (0:39)
  60. Bank Robbery (0:27)
  61. Train Chase (Part 1) (10:09)
  62. Train Chase (Part 2) (1:09)
  63. World Evolving (3:15)
  64. Crow (0:25)
  65. End Credits (2:53)
  66. Home Suite (6:54)
  67. Absurdity Suite (4:03)
  68. Silver Suite (4:03)
  69. Poop (Alternate) (0:21)
  70. Leaving Reds (Alternate) (0:23)
  71. Wrong Brother (Alternate) (1:12)
  72. Frank In Tunnel (Alternate) (0:26)
  73. Prayer (Alternate) (1:52)
  74. World Evolving (Alternate) (0:55)
  75. Crow (Alternate) (0:25)
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 10 || 2018-05-02 11:11:49
Listening to this complete score and once again it strikes me how much weaker, quieter, less punchy recording sessions frequently sound when compared to the equivalent album tracks. The Pirates of the Caribbean completes have the same problem. It puts me in kind of a conundrum because take from this score "Runaway Train" vs. its album track "The Railroad Waits for No One". The percussion in particular sounds so much more satisfying and prominent in the latter. So do I take the version with the two extra minutes of material, or the version that sounds much more vibrant and exciting to listen to? Or do I edit together some weird mixture of the two (which is actually what I did, but that's an imperfect solution too because a) it's time-consuming and b) then the track constantly moves back and forth between two different mastering styles which is distracting).

Not to mention the huge chunks of silence at the beginning and end (and sometimes middle) of tracks, and the crappy sound quality on "Ride Out/Spirit Horse" and "Aftermath Village Slaughter". It's great to be able to hear these recording sessions but sometimes their flaws are too irritating to ignore...it's quite clear that they weren't prepared for consumption at all, and getting them to the point where you can listen to them is hard work sometimes!


Mike (OTM)2018-05-02 15:45:11
I noticed that with The Dark Knight Rises... a lot of the cues sound like demos almost, even the final versions, where the score in-film is a lot more polished.


Mr Tweedy2018-05-02 18:58:22
That's why I'm mastering my bootlegs before givin them a "real" listen.
Though you can't really master stereo files the same way studios do masterings (with separate layers of instruments), I manage to add some noticeable energy to the bootleg tracks.


mpolonest123 2018-05-02 19:47:24
It’s funny how certain RS are affected by this whole mastering thing while others aren’t. TASM2 and MoS sound almost perfect, while AWE has completely different instrumental layering (although in that case I prefer the more traditional sound as opposed to the bass heavy album).


Joshua2018-05-02 20:37:44
Well considering the film versions have to compete with dialogue and sound effects, it's an absolute must to make them "less punchy" or "quieter". There's only so much sonic space to play with. But with album versions you can go balls to wall. It's not a problem in the recordings. They're doing exactly what there designed to do.


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-02 21:05:58
Yeah I know, it's only a "problem" if you're listening on its own, which these files were never really meant for. I understand the circumstances, it's still just a bit frustrating.

Incidentally, I actually prefer the sessions' mix of "Train Chase" (or "Finale"). It lets the dynamics breathe a bit more whereas the album version was a bit brickwalled and over-loud and exhausting (which works okay for your usual Zimmer/RC-style simplistic power action music but not quite as well for a more dynamically orchestral piece like this; I have the same issue with Thomas Bergersen's "That's a Wrap"). Also the opening trumpet isn't quite as piercing and abrupt (I actually get a huge "jump-scare" sometimes when it comes up on shuffle). So you win some, you lose some. :)

mpolonest, I sort of agree on AWE, although I do wish the sessions had just a *bit* more power. It's not 100% traditionally composed orchestral music, after all, still has that Zimmer heavy touch which goes missing a bit in the sessions. The ideal medium would be somewhere between the sessions and the overly-loud album (which is hopefully what we'll get when that score gets an official complete release one of these years from someone like La-La-Land, which I'm perhaps foolishly optimistic it will, there's so much great unreleased material and it's a very, very popular score, with good reason).


mpolonest123 2018-05-02 21:28:13
@Edmund Well more traditional in the Zimmer sense lol.
With the first Pirates and DMC, you need to have that bass heavy “rock’n’roll” sound, AWE was always a pretty different score tonally.

As for the issues with session mastering, I always edit my copies to remove silences and boost volumes when needed. The only major issue that seems to arise is when lossy files are released. BvS, as one example, sounds atrocious in parts due to the quality of sound.


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-02 21:58:25
Boosting volume helps but it doesn't bring the music up to album levels. There's a much more involved amount of balancing/mixing/mastering that goes into albums that is far beyond my rudimentary Audacity skills...


mpolonest123 2018-05-02 22:04:57
Oh definitely not... I think you would need the stems to have a 100% perfect representation of the album sound. (Though I’m sure some people have strong enough editing skills to come close)

Two asides:

1. In Cavendish Escape (film version) there are some awesome drum placements when he exits the train with his gang that aren’t on the sessions. We’re those done by a music editor?

2. How on earth did the skeleton dance and finale cue from Curse of the Black Pearl pass the bar with those horrible bass distortions? I don’t think I’ve ever heard an official release with something as botched as that....


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-02 23:11:12
There's some pretty gnarly bass distortions in "Terraforming" from Man of Steel as well (at around the 2:30 mark) but I'm not sure those aren't on purpose...


mpolonest123 2018-05-03 02:34:28
Those are pretty noticeable, although they do fit the whole terraforming sound design in a weird way. I want to say there is some awful mixing in the Hero Fight cue from BVS as well. Actually, make that most of Junkie XL’s scores. Run All Night and Mad Max have some genuinely bad portions.

Daniel reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-07 23:13:16
"After the Battle of Aughrim" was inspired to the theme

Felix reply Replies: 2 || 2016-06-25 18:59:38
Do you have any credits here Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2016-06-25 19:10:31
No.


Anonymous2017-03-01 03:11:40
Andrew Kawcynski has a few cues from here on his soundcloud. So there's that.

Daniel reply Replies: 0 || 2015-12-04 21:53:10
It's here!!

Sam reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-12 21:54:40
Is there a way to actually listen to these?

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 4 || 2015-03-10 00:46:26
Mind-- FREAKING-- BLOWN!!!! The Lone Ranger complete score is here!!!!!!


Anonymous2015-03-10 18:09:28
Uhhh, sorry my friend, this "complete score" doesn't and never will exist. It is just more of Hybrids useless never-ending posting of songs we will never hear or be able to buy. Just a senseless waste of time.


Marcos2015-03-10 19:38:34
What are you talking about? I have all these tracks, this is real. Maybe you should look better


Anonymous2015-03-11 02:55:32
Well where exactly did you obtain it? It clearly states "unofficial release" next to "Label"


Anonymous 11382015-03-11 06:19:39
It's also been clearly stated that it's against the rules here to post links to other websites, especially ones where bootlegs are available for download. ### EDITED ###

Dude reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-10 21:31:07
And in this version "Ride Out - Spirit Horse" is also in low quality?

Marcos reply Replies: 7 || 2015-03-10 10:53:01
Another one Zimmer's leak ? What 's going on? , POTC On Strangers Tides was leaked too. now just missing the complete score of the amazing spider-man 2 , does anyone know why all complete scores are been leaked in these days? Maybe @Hybrid can tell us


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-10 11:34:38
No comment Marcos...


Anonymous2015-03-10 18:06:02
"No comment" translates to Hybrid has no f-ing clue as to why


john2015-03-10 18:08:48
hey hybryd, after leaking pirates mos and lone ranger can you leak spiderman ?
thanks


Anonymous2015-03-10 18:11:50
What is the use in "leaking" these alleged "complete scores" all the time? Will we ever, or have we ever been able to buy these, let alone hear any of these extra songs? The answer is no so why keep doing it?


Marcos2015-03-10 19:35:47
now apparently the recording sessions of Amazing spider.Man 2 has been leaked. but for now is a rumor, i'm going to check now the tracklist.


Medigo2015-03-10 19:37:46
No that one was a prank apparently
dont get your hopes up on that front


Marcos2015-03-10 19:43:35
Yes, you're right , most probale is that be a prank.

RealFfingMusic reply Replies: 8 || 2015-03-10 06:00:19
I know it's a silly question, but why does this site replace slashes with hyphens?

E.g. "Logos / Exhibit 1:33" to "Logos - Exhibit (1:33)"


Anonymous2015-03-10 06:15:48
Annoying, is it not?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-10 11:56:25
Because it's my H-Z.com standard... I personally hate the "/" !

Sue me it bothers you ! lol


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 12:08:21
Sometimes I forget everybody here is human. Shame, I always imagined Hybrid to be like Ian McKellen in Gandalf costume.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-10 13:51:35
I personally prefer slashes to hyphens but as long as one or the other is used consistently, everything's cool. :)


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 16:48:20
Well, hyphens are used to join two words. Slash is used to separate two parts of the same element. So yeah, slash is more accurate.


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-10 17:45:05
Who cares, you have a problem ? You're free to leave !


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 18:03:41
@Hybrid, don't be dick. I never said I have a problem. I don't have anything against hyphens. I just mentioned in Indian English slash is MORE accurate here, doesn't mean hyphen is wrong.


Anonymous2015-03-10 18:03:54
Hybrid, don't be such an a-hole okay?

JackieStewart reply Replies: 1 || 2015-03-10 11:07:53
What I really want is the RUSH complete score. The cd release of this was good enough.


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 12:00:30
There won't be more than 10 minutes extra material in Rush CS. Most of the music is already in the OST.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-10 09:56:33
Now THIS I'm excited to hear.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 1 || 2015-03-10 02:59:03
Just a curious question... Are the Absurdity and Silver suites are parts of the original film score?


Tonto2015-03-10 03:07:23
They are suites which themes get used in film

Cooper reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-10 02:24:15
I listen now, but i cant find, where is Music Box track ?


Tonto2015-03-10 02:28:56
That is a source cue. Not included


Cooper2015-03-10 02:51:20
I thinking, Hans composed this track (Music Box) :( disappointment. :(

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-10 00:43:12
Before anyone shows up...


Adam2015-03-10 01:39:17
Oh my God! First Man of Steel and now The Lone Ranger! This is awesome!

Are any credits known at this time? :P


Russel2015-03-10 02:17:07
Yeah, Hans Zimmer. Lol

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-10 01:24:14
This day is awesome!!!

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