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Bayhem - why are you so worked up about him working or not working on the film ?the fact he did seems to annoy youLorne Balfe didnt work at this score!!!!<br>========================<br><br><br>Correct.Oh if you liked this one, you should see the one way below with Bayhem, Meta and Macejko going at it like crazy<br><br>Pretty sure saying this will make another situation like that.I like how this debate about Lorne Balfe started from me politely asking for artist credits. This is a cool place.Lorne Balfe didnt work at this score!!!!
Exactly Solomon !<br>THe use of the krypton theme in the spaceship scene made this moment more intense and it felt... natural... as if the rest of the music doesnt blend in the atmosphere we were used to with the previous movies.@scarecrow9: Wikipedia says that filming originally wrapped in October 2016, and that Zack was taken off the project in May 2017. That's at least 6 months of post-production, so hopefully yes.<br>@Leonard Dante: You don't think it's disrespect to Snyder that the film bears his name but Whedon cut it up and redid his story with terrible reshoots and replaced his nominated composer?<br><br>Lastly, I will say that I watched the film earlier today and thought it was absolutely terrible. The best part was the few seconds where Zimmer's "Krypton" theme was playing in the scoutship!Hybrid, do you think that the Snyder´s Cut could really exist somewhere? Let alone with Tom´s score, do you think that he even began scoring the film? I would love to see that version. Thank you for your answerBalfe is one of the few that hasn’t got additional writers<br>=================================<br><br><br>Even composers who do one or two movies a year receive help. So it's very, very hard for me to believe that Balfe - with the amount of movies he works on now - is out there by himself, scoring it all by himself. It's simply not possible. And this is the MV/RC world after all. Composers help each other all the time. And many of these collaborations don't even make it to this site. It's very hard to keep track of everything.imo whedon and elfman screwed up the movie, i'd say Zacks original cut would be better, then again thats just me tho
Perhaps. But it would be a disrespect to Whedon and Elfman. Okay. If that means more money on the table, they will.HOPE NEVER DIES.<br><br>Sources confirm this days on social media that Zack Snyder Original Cut of Justice League not only exists, but have VFX's work and Junkie XL's score on it.<br><br>That could be really EPIC.<br><br>The Fight for this can happens is bigger every minute passes, dont lose the faith, not now.Cannot freaking wait!"Balfe is one of the few that hasn’t got additional writers"<br><br>As if. Just look through this site and you'll see additional guys credited for lots of his scores. Max Aruj, Steffen Thum, Thomas Farnon, Andrew Kawczynski on some projects...he's a very busy guy but I promise you he doesn't do every single second of his 15 scores a year on his own.Bayhem - Balfe is one of the few that hasn’t got additional writers though.which films has this small army of ghostwriters ???!!!!!!
You say Balfe worked on the last Transformers(2017). Okay. He may have been called by the Paramount. However, his involvement with the franchise in 2005 and in the following years happened because of the RCP and Zimmer's direct involvement in the project. There in 2005, 2007, 2011, 2014 he was a guest of RCP/MV and no received no call for help of the Paramount. There is no other way.he worked on the first transformers . And did a lot. Why not ask him on twitter .<br>.....................................<br><br><br>I've asked him a lot of stuff. We're Facebook friends. And yes, I know he worked on the first one. I clearly said it a couple of times in my replies here. He worked on the first one and the second one as well. But if you try to imply that Balfe deserves the credit for these scores, you are way, way off the mark. And it's very disrespectful to Jablonsky. Very.<br><br>Now, clearly you like Balfe a lot. Fine. But please don't undermine a far more experienced and successful composer like Jablonsky, just because Balfe is the "hot MV/RC composer" at the moment. We, the Jablonsky fans, certainly didn't act that way in 2007 when Jablonsky's name was everywhere and people were going crazy for the Transformers score. No one denies that Balfe worked hard on the Transformers films. But he's not the "main guy". Just like a lot of MV/RC composers have worked on HIS scores and they're not the main composers. You think Balfe scores all of his movies alone? Nope. Like any other successful and busy composer out there, he's supported by a small army of ghostwriters.Studio = Paramount and he worked on the first transformers . And did a lot. Why not ask him on twitter . I did !!!!!!Balfe never worked for Jablonsky =========================================<br><br>By "worked for Jablonsky" I meant he worked ON Jablonsky scores. And as James said, it's all MV/RC anyway. They all know each other and help each other. The first Transformers movie started post-production at the end of 2006. Back then no one knew who Balfe was (aside from the biggest MV/RC fans). His big break arguably came in 2009-2010. Years after the first Transformers movie. So no matter how we spin it, he still came after Jablonsky. Jablonsky is his senior and obviously has much more experience. And we have to respect that. <br><br>That was my point.Should have gotten one for Interstellar, not this.
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - On Stranger Tides (Complete Score)
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  1. Opening (3:39)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  2. The Courtroom (1:39)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  3. Paddy Wagon (2:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson (Klaus Badelt)
  4. Palace Courtyard (0:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  5. Creampuff - King's Entrance (1:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  6. Barbossa's Entrance (2:03)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel (Blake Neely)
  7. Jack's Escape (2:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli (Klaus Badelt)
  8. Carriage Chase (2:09)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  9. Filthy Pirate (0:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea (Klaus Badelt)
  10. Imposter Swordfight (2:55)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  11. Meet Angelica - Jack & Angelica Bicker (2:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  12. British Attack (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  13. Gibbs Burns Map (2:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  14. Aboard The Queen Anne's Revenge (1:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  15. First Mate Is A Her - The Prophecy (2:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  16. Barbossa Seeks Heading (0:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  17. Spanish Ignore Barbossa (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Guillaume Roussel
  18. Spanish Still Ignore Barbossa (0:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  19. Mutiny Meeting (0:47)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  20. Mutiny (3:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  21. Blackbeard's Entrance - Mutineers Hang (2:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  22. Upside Down Jack (0:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea
  23. Fry The Cook (3:00)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  24. Blackbeard's Cabin (2:09)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  25. Barbossa Having Tea (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  26. Barbossa Rallies The Crew (0:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  27. The Dance - Bottle Room - Voodoo Doll (3:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson (Klaus Badelt)
  28. Mermaid Hunt - Mermaid Tale (2:41)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  29. Mermaids Appear - Mermaids Attack (9:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  30. The Beach - To The Fountain - Jungle Trek (3:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  31. Syrena Needs Air (0:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  32. The Cliff (0:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  33. Jack Jumps (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea
  34. Shirtless - Naming Syrena - Ponce De Leon (5:36)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  35. Chest Sting (0:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  36. Don't Touch The Map (0:47)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel (Klaus Badelt)
  37. Ole (0:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  38. Mermaid Pools (1:00)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  39. Mermaids Are Tough (2:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  40. Spanish Camp (3:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  41. Mermaid Tears (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson (Klaus Badelt)
  42. Palm Tree Grove (2:03)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  43. Jazz Hands (3:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  44. Is That It? (1:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  45. Water Drop (1:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  46. Aqua De Vida (0:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  47. The Fountain Of Youth (2:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  48. The Faceoff (1:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  49. Battle For The Fountain Of Youth (Part 1) (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  50. Battle For The Fountain Of Youth (Part 2) (1:01)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  51. Philip Returns To Syrena (0:50)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  52. The Battle Continues (0:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  53. Spanish Arrive (2:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli (Klaus Badelt)
  54. Angelica Cut (3:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli (Klaus Badelt)
  55. Blackbeard's Demise (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  56. Syrena Saves Philip (1:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  57. One Pistol, One Shot (0:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  58. Jack Leaves Angelica (1:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  59. Make Way For Tortuga (1:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  60. Jack & Gibbs (1:41)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  61. End Credits (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  62. Voodoo Dool (0:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  63. Angelica Theme (4:16)
    Hans Zimmer
  64. Mermaids Theme (5:10)
    Hans Zimmer
  65. The Pirate That Should Not Be (Theme Idea) (3:55)
    Hans Zimmer, Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  66. South Of Heaven's Chanting Mermaids (Theme Idea) (5:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  67. Angry & Dead Again (Theme Idea) (5:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  68. Paddy Wagon (Alternate) (0:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  69. Aboard The Queen Anne's Revenge (Alternate) (0:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea
  70. Blackbeard's Cabin (Alternate) (1:11)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  71. Barbossa Having Tea (Alternate) (0:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  72. Mermaid Hunt (Alternate) (1:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  73. The Cliff (Alternate) (0:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  74. Naming Syrena (Alternate I) (1:58)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  75. Naming Syrena (Alternate II) (0:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  76. Naming Syrena (Alternate III) (0:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  77. Don't Touch The Map (0:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  78. Mermaids Are Tough (2:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  79. Jazz Hands (Alternate) (0:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  80. Battle For The Fountain Of Youth (Part 1) (Alternate I) (0:23)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  81. Battle For The Fountain Of Youth (Part 1) (Alternate II) (0:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  82. Blackbeard's Demise (Alternate) (0:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  83. Jack & Gibbs (Alternate I) (0:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  84. Jack & Gibbs (Alternate II) (0:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  85. Mermaids Theme (Alternate) (5:11)
    Hans Zimmer
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mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2017-07-24 03:30:50
This might seriously be overthinking things but I think I understand why Barbossa's theme in this film happens to be the third Beckett motif. Rewatching AWE it seems this theme always appears when a betrayal is happening. Considering Barbossa is "allied" with the British navy it somewhat makes sense that the betrayal theme is used for him. Realistically I'm sure it's just another bad temp but it's still fun to imagine what Zimmer and Co. were thinking here...


Iamtommie2017-11-17 19:01:26
Can I ask why everybody is so negative about this score.
I actually really love it. New themes for Spaniard, Mermaids and Blackbeard are good.
Okay, Hans re-used stuff from the previous 3 but it's still a great score.

Why does everybody else think it's bad? Would somebody please explain this to me


Olive2017-11-17 20:52:26
Because they mixed several passages of past scores into scenes completely disconnected from those for which the music was composed at first. There is a chase scene with the music for the maelstrom. The love theme for Will and Elisabeth comes up without either of them being in the movie or in scenes that nerver mention their names. The same with the theme for Beckett. And half of the commercial CD was remixes of DJs


Alexander2017-11-17 21:06:05
I don't think everybody thinks it's bad you just have to look at the development of the franchise. In the first pirates we got very nice melodys and tunes that are still legendary and so they set the tune for all the other pirates movies. In the second one we got a much darker yet very good developed score that has again new themes for new characters but uses themes from the first one as well. Then the third movie came along and everybody can think about the film what he wants but the music... man the music from the third one is really the cherry on the top of the entire franchise cause here we got all themes in new majestic versions plus one of the most beautyful love themes ever. So now you would think "Ok, I guess by judging by the development, the next one will be at least as great as the last one" but instead of this case we just got old themes in flat versions and the music is not bad but it just has not this kind of drive like the others. For sure if this score would have been the first one, the crowd would have reacted differently but hey, the movie wasn't that good as well so I guess it all equals out :D

:) reply Replies: 13 || 2016-01-21 22:52:04
I hear from a close source (I can't say) that Zimmer is going to do pirates 5 but will be more focused on Nolans new film Dunkirk coming out at the same time.


Dimitris Krommidas2016-01-21 23:41:38
I hope it's true!


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-22 00:06:40
Let me seriously doubt that... lol


rockhound2016-01-22 00:11:34
i would love to hear a trevor rabin score for this movie, although we would get more new themes than he would use the old ones. but i would love to hear a new take on this franchise.


Edmund Meinerts2016-01-22 08:17:49
Even though I still think Geoff Zanelli is a pretty great choice, I would be TOTALLY on board with a Trevor Rabin Pirates score. If anyone's got the fun-thematic old-school MV sound down, he does.

Actually, even better - Mark Mancina! He's a little better with orchestra than Trevor. Plus has a rapport with Disney. Would be awesome. :D


Brent2016-01-22 09:07:30
Geoff is certainly my top choice, but do you know what my absolute dream would be (and one that would certainly never ever happen)? A freakin' John Powell Pirates score. ;)


rockhound2016-01-22 09:11:34
Pan is a kind of pirtaes score by powell. but mark mancina would also be a really nice choice. i hope we will get to know at least this year, who will compose the music.


0-^-02016-01-22 10:37:13
Personally, I care not who gets this gig.

All I want is something in the spirit of what Pirates 2/3 - particularly 3 - were to the original. Whoever can deliver this please come aboard!


Macejko2016-01-22 11:28:49
I would sell my kidney to hear Mark Mancina do the Pirates!


Solidsnoke2016-01-22 16:53:10
Hans was great on POTC but Disney totally messed up the fourth score so I can understand Hans won't do the next


Scorefan2016-01-22 20:10:07
My choices:
1.- Geoff Zanelli
2.- Trevor Rabin & Mark Mancina
3.- Alan Silvestri
4.- John Debney

Zimmer won't go back to score Pirates 5. That's sure.


Prott2016-01-23 13:35:52
Macejko: My kidney is in as well! :) It would be awesome to hear a pirates score by The M.M.!


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-26 19:24:11
And btw, I can confirm AGAIN, Hans won't be doing POTC 5... ;)


Eric2017-03-28 01:11:07
Geoff Zanelli who has worked on every Pirates film is doing Pirates 5

crazyackleholic reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-25 21:27:35
Is track 70 a full alternate take or an insert? Same question regarding track 82.


Anonymous2016-12-27 13:31:47
These 're demos.

Daniel reply Replies: 1 || 2016-05-28 04:12:27
Should the tracklist reflect the use of other previous composers' themes? I'm sure there's lots of composers from 1 2 and 3 whose themes were adapted in this score. Should they get a (parentheses) credit as well? That's why his name is in parentheses right? because theyre using his themes?


Anonymous2016-05-28 07:43:14
Yes. Same with dead man's chest and at worlds end

Daniel reply Replies: 8 || 2015-09-13 22:36:36
Anyone knows if Hans gonna make soundtrack for potc 5??


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-13 22:56:37
No he is not... Let's hope Geoff does it... :)


Anonymous2015-09-14 02:14:14
I can't imagine a Pirates movie without Badelt/Zimmer's music themes. At least, they bring one of POTC old collaborations (RCP). My bet is for Balfe, Zanelli, Morris or Jackman.


Joshua2015-09-14 06:59:34
Zanelli was in RCP, and his influence is all over the previous scores. He had alot to do on the first one.


Ds2015-09-14 10:56:30
Hybrid, wasn't Geoff already confirmed? I thought I read it somewhere a while ago but can't remember exactly :-p


Anonymous2015-09-14 11:48:48
I've been following the production of this film on the net and I got this vibe that it might be troubled production with lots of hiatus and push backs and changes. Hope this is not carried over to the score.


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-14 16:42:03
Geoff is in talks with production for quite some time. It's too early to say anything officially.


Zimson2015-09-14 17:56:58
I really hope they give the gig to someone who was involved in the previous scores, Geoff or Henry would be great.
The score should feel like it is continuing a series.


Edmund Meinerts2015-09-14 17:59:42
They certainly have no shortage of people who have already worked on the series! They could make up to a Pirates 20 and never use the same guy twice and still keep it within the family...lol

Medigo reply Replies: 5 || 2015-03-11 12:27:12
true
allthough with how the movie uses some inserts and not others
Its not easy to get a clear list anyway


Tobias2015-03-18 09:38:57
I can't find the track Nr. 47 "The Fountain Of Youth"....


Anonymous2015-03-18 13:20:12
Look again. If you can't find it where it should be, Geoff Zanelli also released it on his website a couple years ago.


Bioscope2015-03-18 16:51:19
6m57 untitled....


Anonymous2015-07-18 18:20:02
Anyone find a way to download this track (#47 "The Fountain of Youth")?

I found it on Zanelli's website as someone suggested, but I don't know how to download it off a website like that one.


Bioscope2015-07-19 06:16:26
Go into your browser 'treasure chest'....

speedrun reply Replies: 3 || 2015-04-29 19:06:12
So Matthew Margeson wrote the Blackbeard theme? Cool.


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-29 19:46:59
Nope, the cue is Hans' demo, orchestrated by Matthew...


speedrun2015-04-29 19:55:18
oh my bad. I got confused with credits because I didnt see a Blackbeard Theme like the other ones.

What does orchestrated mean?


Anonymous2015-04-30 05:33:04
@speedrun

Do what? Really?

Leoj reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-29 19:45:47
What is the name of the track 2m18A?


Felix2015-03-29 22:40:41
It's an Untitled Cue


Bioscope2015-03-30 05:57:23
It is represented here as track 69 and serves as an intro to Aboard the QAR.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 9 || 2015-03-10 14:15:48
I'll finish with cover later... lol


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 16:46:32
Who cares? The score sucked as much as the movie.


Medigo2015-03-10 19:38:41
It has some nice new material
contrary to what that abomination of an album release would like us to believe


john2015-03-10 20:18:41
dont know why my message was removed but can you leak spiderman 2 as well?


Medigo2015-03-11 11:17:52
btw I could have sworn that

'Aboard The Queen Anne's Revenge Alternate' does play in the movie, but that its placed in the scene before the actual aboard the QAR scene

There is music playing when jack Sparrow wakes up after all

also shouldnt some of these alternates just be called 'Inserts'?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-11 11:49:37
Yeah but it was written to at the same place...

Well an insert is by definition an alternate version of a segment... ;)


NM2015-03-11 13:35:31
Sorry Medigo but I have to disagree, of course this is nice to have for "completeness" sake, but unlike The Lone Ranger which has some great little gems, this is *still* not a great score.

There's some highlights like the Mermaid scene stuff, but I'm amazed that a cue as terrible as "Carriage Chase" was even recorded. With the full orchestra it actually sounds worse as the awkward transitions, weird stilted tempo change and then the utterly anonymous and generic ending are more apparent.


Medigo2015-03-11 13:51:00
well I didnt say all the tracks were good
but I appreciate all the new spanish material and versions of the mermaid theme

even if the scenes they went with were ugh


Anonymous2015-03-11 16:24:19
An insert is not necessarily an alternate.


NM2015-03-13 21:24:47
@Medigo

The Mermaid theme (and the attack music) is definitely very very good I'll grant you that. And you can hear glimpses of what they probably wanted to do with the Spanish stuff.

I would've loved to be have been there when they were recording "Blackbeard's Demise V2", they must've been laughing their asses off!

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