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Oh dear . Where is the theme ?Comes across very likeable and enthusiastic.Now I'm even more excited!I'm on track 9 at the moment. Nothing especially memorable so far, but I do love the return of the Love Theme and Hoist the Colors.<br><br>Salazar's theme isn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it does seem to get repetative quickly. Hopefully the score isn't as blatantly bad on-screen as OST was. That film and score was a mess.Cool insight on POTC 5 !
Now that the album is out there I can easily say that I love this score. Definitely my 2nd favorite behind MoS. <br><br>Musically, much of it has that "Last Samurai/Transformers" power anthem style (with one of the themes sounding like King Arthur) but with RGW's string writing style as opposed to the bass heavy approach of those scores. The WW cello theme isn't used a whole lot, but when it gets some screen time it feels earned, and steals the show. The villain material is the weakest part, but instrumentally is pretty cool with the incorporation of the cimbalom (it reminds me slightly of Sherlock at points)<br><br>Overall, easily one of the best scores so far this year.Hans has not done this one because he was working on dunkirk at the time as far as I know. I saw the movie last night and for sure things like "What shall we die for", "One day", "Jack Sparrow", the legendary "He's a pirate" or even the bit of the musical clock/bell theme from davy jones and Calypso at the VERY end of the film are things that Hans wrote of course. In the movie itself you hear this stuff very often especially in the first hour of the movie which is packed with old themes. But Geoff Zanelli still wrote the other 60%/65% of the music so I can imagine that Hans said that they can give it to Zanelli because even if most of the themes are from Hans, he was most likely not heavily involved at the writing and scoring process. He was most likely there at the beginning of the process like Zanelli said in an interview and made sure that this story needed things like one day or the medallion calls. And he is not credited because of the fact that he was doing dunkirk and for sure his live tour and so he was like mentioned before only there at the beginning of the process and wrote/refined the new versions of one day or he's a pirate if he did anything. But i thought as well that they could have mentioned him in the credits like they mentioned Zanelly or even Steve Jablonsky in the credits of the first one or John Williams at Rogue One.I missed that, sorry! I agree with your other comment.<br><br>Jackman's contribution to the 2nd half of love suite, his rollicking orchestral mayhem in "I don't know if now is the best time" provide plenty of evidence of him imposing his style effectively on the material. <br>"Going back to ground 0" doesn't mean "make a poor movie".<br>I would like more Pirates movies, but not if they make them as bad as the 4th and 5th ones. They could have written an original story (I'm sure there are good writers out there who could have found something fresh) and started a new adventure just like the 2nd and 3rd movies did. It's not impossible.<br>But rather they just tried to remake the 1st movie. If they did it for the 5th one, why do you think they wouldn't do it for the 6th one? Judging by the post-credit scene, they are clearly not afraid of ripping off the previous movies even more... :-DHi Hans!<br><br>Your scores helped me pass through difficult times, in life.<br>Never heard music that touches me so deep inside.<br>Thanks - to you and your Team - and go on like this.<br>When do you come to Germany with your Team (live in concert)?<br><br>If you like to answer: atlantis42195@gmail.com<br>------------------------------------------<br>Hallo Hans!<br><br>Ein dickes Lob an Sie und Ihr Team.<br>Ihre Musik half mir, durch schwere Zeiten im Leben zu kommen.<br>Nie zuvor kannte ich Musik, welche mich derart berührt.<br>Wann kommen Sie wieder nach Deutschland, mit Ihrem Team?<br><br>Weiter so und beste Grüße, aus Düsseldorf!<br>Falls Sie antworten möchten:atlantis42195@gmail.com<br><br>Jill W.<br>
Yeah... I know what you mean...<br><br>First of all, I want this movie to be a fun ride. I cannot ask of it what I would ask of a Nolan production, for once. But I know I cannot ask of this movie what I would ask of a 2nd or a 3rd part. I say this because since DMTNT begins production they (producers) hinted it was the BEGINNING of a new adventure, So they had to go back to "ground 0". And is not too difficult to guess that they'd try the Star Wars formula; POTC 5 is basically Force Awakens in its intentions at the least.<br><br>So what really put me off is the fact that all this hate will only cause to not greenlit more adventures :( , because, well.. apparently audience doesn't want this dessert anymore.If that cheesy ending was "so so cool", it's just because it's a powerful reminder of how beautiful the 3rd movie was. And even more so in comparison to this dreadful 5th outing.Yeah I made a shitty suite ! :( :( :( lolLots of people complaining about the film and the score, makes me a little bit irritated. Of course this was never gonna reach the level of the first films. It never will be, it's been 10 years. I am a hugh fan of these films and after watching the new film I felt so good. That cheesy ending was actually so so cool. The movie wasn't perfect put they did some good things in it. I haven't heard this album yet but I listened to the samples and everything I wanted on this album, I did hear those parts in the samples. Afterwards I was humming that new adventure theme all day, even how unoriginal it is. It's cool and Carina's theme is a great new addition. This score is much than On Stranger Tides maybe think about that. Let this score grow on you. Most people now base their opinion on just this suite. Honestly ? It doens't reflect the score that well.I have yet to listen to the score, and I will after see the movie because I want to experience it on the movie itself first.<br><br>But if you read the very insightful interview with Zanelli for filmmusicamg, he talks about the "differences" between composers at RCP, and when Zimmer liked something of Zenelli its because, in Zimmer's words "it sounds so Geoff" (I think he was racalling it about Tia Dalma's theme and the tribal island music from DMC). So I think is kind of unfair to expect Geoff's music to sound very Zimmer's, realistically speaking. <br><br>I've been listening Zanelli's scores a few years now, and I think I Identify his style and his type os themes, which are not like Zimmer`s at all (talking about notes specifically)... so based on his scores I expect this to be a very Geoff Zanelli score leaning to POTC style and just a little of Zimmer.<br><br>You can see the differences in the OST album, just listen on what Zimmer composed and the listen the Spaniard's theme, which is by Zanelli.
Actually, iii, I expressed similar sentiments to yours in a reply below this post. :) Hans' absence is definitely felt. <br><br>As for Jackman vs. Zanelli, I'm not sure the two can be fairly compared. Yes, Henry made interesting arrangements, but most of what he did was the love theme from POTC 3. Zanelli, on the other hand, has worked on all four films and written a couple themes. So I feel like Jackman would have had to work on more for us to really say whether he's the stronger composer for the franchise.'I think they couldn't have picked a better composer than Geoff in Hans' absence'<br><br>I disagree, Mike. The strongest arrangements of Hans' material in the franchise were Henry Jackman. <br><br>'some would argue Geoff wasn't properly credited when Hans was in charge.'<br><br>'some' would be wrong. Geoff Zanelli was credited as an additional music arranger because that's what he did. The weakness of this score's ideas in comparison to particularly the third one speaks to the importance of the primary composer. There is nothing in this score the equivalent of "Marry Me" or "Hoist the Colors" or "Jack Sparrow" or "The Kraken" or even "Mermaids". <br><br>The score misses Zimmer big time, but I suspect if the film had looked interesting he might've been tempted back. The reality is Hans (love it or hate it) has a strong musical voice and you can feel its absence. <br><br>The main new theme is boring and the dreary cello version in the end credits is a completely over-used sound these days. And the mix of the whole score is appalling - even worse than On Stranger Tides flat soundscape. How did they manage to make a 100 piece orchestra sound like a demo for an off the shelf sample library? <br><br>Everything is just another backwards step. <br>Wow! 78 minutes of score! Cool.Man, I loved this movie.Hm, Angel On The Wing sounds a lot like the Cerberus theme from Mass Effect 2.
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  3. Saying The Sorry (2:45)
  4. Two Fugitives (3:04)
  5. Come Into The Out Now (2:47)
  6. Smek Down (4:18)
  7. Patched-In (4:08)
  8. Moving Day (2:47)
  9. Sad-Mad (2:22)
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Ds reply Replies: 1 || 2016-01-10 15:20:58
While waiting for "13 Hours", I'm replaying all the Lorne stuff I have on my computer... I didn't really pay attention to this one when it came out, but it's so nice and catchy. Lorne amazes me more and more, and I think the best is yet to come!


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-10 15:57:25
Yep very underrated one... :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 10 || 2015-03-26 20:31:39
I added a suite... Check this out, it's great... :)


Mike2015-03-26 21:26:34
Very nice.

I gotta say, it's pretty cool that Hans Zimmer's methods allow composers like Lorne to get their own careers kickstarted. asking this honestly, would anyone know about Lorne Balfe if he hadn't worked with Hans all those years?


Leo2015-03-27 10:00:03
Alexandre Desplat doesn't work for RCP, and he's one of the busiest and most well known composers working in Hollywood today.


rockhound2015-03-28 10:27:50
sounds wonderful. nice orchestration and very catchy themes. a lil bit john powell style i would say. i have to say, i prefer the orchestral balfe than the synth balfe, although this music sounds like a very good mix of both.


JamesT2015-03-30 02:42:33
This is a great suite!!! Fun, fun music.

Hybrid: on another note, do you know anything about a soundtrack for Killing Jesus, The Woman In Gold, or A.D.?


Anonymous2015-04-04 20:00:13
I love the first cue that appears in the suite until around 3:20. Is that "Symphony In Oh"?


Mike2015-04-04 20:15:32
Yeah, this score has some very fun music. Though I can't help thinking of Kung Fu Panda 2 with some of it! :P


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-04 20:30:27
Yes it is the first track ! :)


rockhound2015-04-12 19:23:36
i love this score. what a wonderful music. very thematic, excited, playful and emotional. lovely orchestral score by lorne.


Scarecrow92015-04-17 18:25:20
LOVE IT, is it possible to buy it in Lossless, anywhere else than on QOBUZ?


sepehr 2015-06-30 21:42:16
it was great.

Leo reply Replies: 2 || 2015-04-17 04:03:08
Who's Stargate? O:


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-17 08:59:32
Stargate is the band who wrote the songs...

The official movie credit is Music by LB & Stargate... So it's like that on the cover, but there's nothing of theirs in the score... It's all LB...


Leo2015-04-17 17:33:57
Songs =/= Score

it's a little different I must say, lol

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2015-04-04 17:42:22
So I just realized looking at Lorne's page...Wow...tons of projects he's working on!

macarenox reply Replies: 0 || 2015-04-03 22:36:08
It is similar to Megamind and Madagascar. LIKE

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2015-04-03 16:13:54
Cover Released :D
filmmusicreporter. com/2015/04/02/home-score-album- details/

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 22 || 2015-03-26 08:38:19
The artwork just got approved, it should be out in a couple of weeks... :)

And yes Lorne is scoring Terminator 5... lol


ggctuk2015-03-26 11:16:27
An interesting turn of events indeed. I wonder what kind of score it will be like. I confess to being completely unaware of his works because I've never watched or played anything he scored. I kind of hope for a synthetic influence, actually, to harken back to the Brad Fiedel days.


Bioscope2015-03-26 15:44:38
I think this could be brilliant. the darkest moments in Transformers 2 featured his contributions, if I am right. He is comfortable with scoring mechanised characters.


Anonymous2015-03-26 22:05:31
right. just like daft punk "scored" tron legacy. lorne balfe will score one of the biggest american franchises ever. he'll have help.


ggctuk2015-03-26 22:15:03
Perhaps it's just me being naive, but I'm also hoping for a proper version of the Terminator theme. Elfman was told not to do it in the last one and Beltrami did do a full version but it only got used in the end credits.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-26 22:33:53
What's that supposed to mean, Anonymous? Lorne Balfe is an actual film composer, not a pop/electronica group - why the skepticism?

Whether he'll have help or not is a separate question. This is RC after all. And there's no problem with that.


ggctuk2015-03-26 23:19:08
I'm told Zimmer will be taking an "executive music producer" credit.


Anonymous2015-03-27 02:30:07
daft punk did not do as much on legacy as they get credited for. zimmer was paid a huge hush hush check for his involvement which was very heavy. i work in the industry so i know it's true. but i am sure this hybrid soldier will tell you otherwise

zimmer will no doubt do most of the work for terminator 5. this makes me happy though. it's how tron legacy turned out to be so awesome


thejok3rrules2015-03-27 06:34:02
Conspiracy theories everywhere, I guess.


Zimson2015-03-27 07:20:45
The fact that you're trying to tell us you have secret insights into RCP no one else has because you "work in the industry" is somewhat ridiculous.
It's true that even composers such as JNH work as ghost writers for big studio or music productions from time to time but that doesn't compensate for a reputable source you obviously don't have.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-27 08:14:22
But the Tron situation is different. I think it's not that surprising to hear that an electronica duo with zero experience in film scoring or orchestral music had a bit of help behind the scenes - honestly, I'd have been more surprised had they NOT had help.

But Balfe has been around for a while and done tons of scores proving his ability in a lot of different situations. I'm not ruling out that someone, even Zimmer, may eventually end up contributing to that Terminator flick with the stupid name (this is 2015 Hollywood film scoring after all - the notion of a solo score is becoming kind of quaint), but there's no reason to treat it with the same skepticism as Tron.


Boldizar2015-03-27 13:49:45
So Genysis dropped Beck?


Anonymous2015-03-27 19:47:21
well thats exactly it edmund. there was no way disney was going to hire to musicians who have never composed for film before for a film of that magniude. same thing happened with star dust and many other films. think ramin djawadi did iron man all by himself? zimmer helped. a lot.

but i think zimmer will end up doing all the heavy lifting for terminator. sure lorne is a successful composer but name one big film hes scored, one as big as terminator. one where he did nearly all the work and had little to no help. none. but i am very curious to hear what becomes of it. nevertheless i am very excited to hear what zimmer and balfe come up with


Macejko2015-03-27 20:12:37
We know pretty much everything there is to know about Iron Man and every other score-wise troubled production that involved RCP, Anonymous. You are bringing sand to Sahara.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-27 23:15:07
Dude, just because Zimmer has helped out on a handful of tricky situations in the past does NOT guarantee that he's going to do it on Terminator! Why the heck are you so sure of yourself?

And Balfe may not have any solo action tentpoles to his name, but he does have some fairly big animated movies and - more importantly - has worked on practically every Zimmer score of the last decade or so (including some HUGE stuff like Inception, Dark Knight and Pirates...the sort of things this Terminator flick dreams of being as successful as). I have no doubt that the people who decided to hire him are aware of that last fact. He's hardly this untested newcomer you're making him out to be!


thejok3rrules2015-03-28 18:20:27
Lorne has also handled two Assassin's Creed scores, which are major projects, so I'm not surprised he's been given the chance of scoring T5.

Plus, nor the director or the producers of Genesys give a shit about the music in this one. The whole project's only purpose is to make millions with something people know and (used to) love. There's no creativity required for Terminator: Genesys, they could have picked anybody else.

I do wish Lorne Balfe does great. (As I l know he can)


mpolonest1232015-03-28 19:18:49
Genesys is just going to be another big cash grab, milking whatever little value this series has left.

As far as Lorne scoring this, I'm fairly excited. He did a fantastic job on Beyond: Two Souls which people always seem to forget exists. And if memory serves me right, Zimmer also produced that score.


Ds2015-03-28 22:10:53
Lol it looks like absolutely nobody is expecting this movie. I wonder if it´s going to bomb. It looks so bad and uninspired, and its director is responsible for the worst Marvel movie to date... I bet Lorne's music will be the only good thing in this movie.


NotSoAnonymous2015-03-29 01:49:22
@Ds, What Marvel movie are you referring to?


NotSoAnonymous2015-03-29 01:51:54
Nevermind. I thought we were talking about Tim Johnson (Home)


Boldizar 2015-03-29 22:49:04
I was extremely turned off by the idea for more Terminator films... Then I saw the trailer. I actually think Genisys has the potential to be really good. I get the feeling whomever wrote the script actually found an interesting spin on it.


Ds2015-03-29 23:46:37
Well for me it´s just the opposite, it´s when I saw the trailer that I realized how bad it looked like :-p


ggctuk2015-03-30 10:48:36
It can't be any worse than the previous two films. And it does seem to be offering something different to the previous films anyway. The idea seems to be the idea presented in the first film that the future is "one possible future" instead flipped around so that the future is set, but the past is "one possible past". It's an intriguing idea, as are some of the ideas alleged to be what we'll get in the film (I won't spoil those here).

The big discussion here, though, is the score. I'm hoping for a better presentation of the main theme, there's now the chance to properly reprise the T-1000 motif as well. I'm thinking that the approach should be something like an inbetween of Elfman's score for Salvation and Trond Viggo-Melsen's music for the Salvation video game.

Russel reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-27 02:18:04
Around 4:00 I hear some Madagascar :)

Radik reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-26 15:09:52
awsoome!!! another reason to looking forward new Termie :)

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