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Its Imagine the Fire insertThe Japanese version can be ordered here: http: //www.cdjapan.co.jp/ product/WPCR-18185<br><br>The "Swan Song" is also included on the CD. So it has 3 additional tracks.Theres quite a bit of good unreleased stuff from this score. Stuff like the cue that plays during Alita's first game of motorball with the other kids, the bar fight music, the unused string rendition of Alita's theme and the end titles arrangement of Motorball/Swan Song.Does anyone have the "Motorball" cue from end credits? It sounds like the beginning of the "Motorball" track but it's different than on the OST. It plays directly after the Swan Song track...<br><br>Why is it left off the CD?Huh... Do people at RCP ask H-Z.com to use the official, less accurate credits in some cases? I seem to recall some credit fiasco on POTC4.
So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.
I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridgeThat's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.
Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.
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Additional Music - Orchestrator
Trevor RabinPaul LinfordDon HarperTom Gire
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicAdditional Music
National Treasure - Book Of Secrets (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 137'09
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  1. Opening (5:31)
    Trevor Rabin
  2. Mitch Introduces Diary (1:22)
    Trevor Rabin
  3. Diary Page (1:17)
    Trevor Rabin
  4. Sad Patrick (0:29)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  5. Bookstore (Part 1) (0:40)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  6. Bookstore (Part 2) (0:33)
    Trevor Rabin, Paul Linford
  7. Ferrari Towed (0:32)
    Paul Linford
  8. Breaking In (2:12)
    Trevor Rabin, Paul Linford
  9. Discovering Cipher (1:11)
    Trevor Rabin
  10. Ben Pleads With Abigail (0:33)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  11. Looking For Key (0:35)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  12. Decoding The Cipher (1:45)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  13. Paris - Resolute Clue (1:15)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper, Paul Linford
  14. Patrick Attacked - Hotel Room - Ben & Riley Prepare (2:01)
    Trevor Rabin, Paul Linford
  15. Insane In Buckingham (1:02)
    Paul Linford
  16. Buckingham Cage (2:14)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  17. Looking For Resolute (0:50)
    Trevor Rabin
  18. Resolute Desk London (2:43)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  19. Buckingham Evacuation (1:07)
    Trevor Rabin
  20. Buckingham Got Em (0:50)
    Trevor Rabin
  21. Car Chase (5:48)
    Trevor Rabin
  22. Ben Explains Cibola (1:23)
    Trevor Rabin
  23. Family Dispute (0:41)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  24. Patrick & Emily (0:55)
    Paul Linford
  25. Emily Translates (1:04)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  26. Telling Patrick Of Oval Office (0:30)
    Paul Linford
  27. Intro Bunny Roll (0:41)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  28. Oval Office (2:04)
    Paul Linford
  29. Riley Tells Of Book Of Secrets (2:14)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  30. Sadusky Visit (0:58)
    Trevor Rabin
  31. Ben Plans To Kidnap President (1:04)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  32. Ben Attaches To Boat (1:04)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper, Paul Linford
  33. President's Party (1:44)
    Paul Linford
  34. Ben Kidnaps President (3:10)
    Trevor Rabin
  35. Ben & President Talk (0:46)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  36. The Book Exists - L.O.C. (3:15)
    Trevor Rabin
  37. L.O.C. - Find Book (1:58)
    Trevor Rabin
  38. L.O.C. - Escape (1:30)
    Trevor Rabin
  39. Mitch & Emily (1:31)
    Trevor Rabin
  40. Meet In Mt. Rushmore (2:07)
    Trevor Rabin, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  41. Looking For Clues (5:17)
    Trevor Rabin
  42. Balance Chamber (4:16)
    Trevor Rabin, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  43. Leaving Balance Chamber (2:29)
    Trevor Rabin, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  44. Chasm (0:49)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  45. Water Cavern (2:17)
    Trevor Rabin
  46. Sparkling Cavern - The Wheel (1:22)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  47. City Of Gold (2:14)
    Trevor Rabin
  48. Exploring City Of Gold (1:02)
    Trevor Rabin
  49. City Of Gold Survival (4:21)
    Trevor Rabin, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  50. Mitch's Sacrifice (1:23)
    Trevor Rabin
  51. Aftermath - Negotiation (3:06)
    Trevor Rabin
  52. Anal Emily (0:41)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  53. Ending - Fireworks - So... (1:46)
    Trevor Rabin
  54. Riley's Ferrari (1:54)
    Trevor Rabin
  55. End Credits (2:40)
    Trevor Rabin
  56. Opening (Alternate I) (5:28)
    Trevor Rabin
  57. Opening (Alternate II) (5:24)
    Trevor Rabin
  58. Opening (Alternate III) (1:02)
    Trevor Rabin
  59. 1m02 (Unused) (1:00)
    Trevor Rabin
  60. Diary Page (Alternate I) (1:14)
    Trevor Rabin
  61. Diary Page (Alternate II) (1:13)
    Trevor Rabin
  62. 1m09 (Unused) (0:54)
    Trevor Rabin
  63. 1m09R (Unused) (0:50)
    Trevor Rabin
  64. Discovering Cipher (Alternate) (1:23)
    Trevor Rabin
  65. Decoding Cipher (Alternate) (1:06)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  66. Paris - Resolute Clue (Alternate) (1:17)
    Trevor Rabin
  67. 2m15A (Unused) (4:33)
    Trevor Rabin
  68. 2m15AX (Unused) (0:29)
    Trevor Rabin
  69. Telling Patrick Of Oval Office (Alternate) (0:25)
    Paul Linford
  70. 4m28 (Unused) (0:27)
    Trevor Rabin
  71. Oval Office (Alternate) (0:39)
    Trevor Rabin
  72. Ben Plans To Kidnap President (Alternate I) (1:02)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  73. Ben Plans To Kidnap President (Alternate II) (1:02)
    Trevor Rabin, Don Harper
  74. 4m37 (Unused) (1:04)
    Trevor Rabin
  75. 4m38 (Unused) (1:09)
    Trevor Rabin
  76. City Of Gold (Alternate) (2:19)
    Trevor Rabin
  77. Fireworks - So... (Alternate) (0:51)
    Trevor Rabin
  78. End Credits (Alternate I) (1:21)
    Trevor Rabin
  79. End Credits (Alternate II) (2:40)
    Trevor Rabin
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Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2015-07-30 14:14:57
Amazing how lame the album release of this score was.

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