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Well, for starters, the HAN SOLO theme Williams wrote is kind of...well...meh....<br><br>And I can see where Powell had to incorporate the original Star Wars and some Empire themes....Asteroid Field being one of them.<br><br>I just kinda hoped Powell would adapt Asteroid Field into something more than whatever the hell butchery happened here....Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! When was there a flute in this score?? I just noticed there's a credit for a flute soloist, and I've listened to this score several times and never noticed a flute? Does anyone have any idea which track it might be?It's really sad how more than half of this score is just very messy bombastic sound rather than a more structured melodic/thematic approach, this coming from a hardcore Powell fan. The saddest thing is that this was THE film for him to score, full of action and chase sequences, which John has always excelled at. Here however, rather than his usual voice, it sounds as if he shies away from it and goes back to anything established by Williams every 30 seconds or so. Whenever it sounds like a cue is leading up to something interesting and exploring a new idea, it just shies away from it. This might have been on the directors/producer's side of things... or that's what I'm choosing to believe, at least. Don't get me wrong, every so often there are some sections that really do shine, this often being when Powell isn't just trying to sound Williamsy and/or referencing old SW material. Maybe I just need to give the album a few more listens. Usually happens whenever a new Powell soundtrack album is released. Not sure, though. Just by listening to Ferdinand a few times, for example, you could really feel and understand the story, its characters and their development, as their themes developed as well. This one is just a mess and feels... off.Such an inspiring track. Loved it when it was released and still love it.Only now just watched this show on Netflix and love balfes score . Canít believe this dark moody music is his !cant wait for Mission Impossible Fallout
It's a beautiful score. Already curious as to what he brings with The Meg@mrzimmerfan<br><br>Still have to disagree, I love the new ďPark ThemeĒ and the way it sort of takes over from the classic theme. Then you have the Indominus theme, Owenís theme, the villain theme, the family theme, the source music, etc.<br>Iíll take that any day over Lost World and JP3. Is it as good as the original score? Hell no, but not many scores are.<br><br>And I do see the similarities between the vulture theme and those other ones listed. Itís definitely not original, but it is effective.Really?, because sounds more like Beltrami than SilvestriVulture's theme is The Avengers theme but in lower tonesThis is just more of the "smooth talking, bad scoring" technique that Zimmer is very good at.
'Yeah, I definitely disagree. When I was watching Rogue One in theaters I kept getting taken out of the film because of the music, which isnít something that I normally pay attention to when I watch movies. '<br><br>The action music in that movie reinforces the tension and epicness of the movie (for example, The Master Switch gives gravitas to the scene and have a nice rendition for the theme of Chirrut's character)<br><br>'And I know it gets criticized a lot, but I honestly love Jurassic World. The flat recording sound aside, I think itís an intelligent score that does something new the franchise material while still paying tribute. Even Homecoming has grown on me, particularly Vultureís theme.'<br><br>Jurassic World, musically speaking, copies the tonal sound from the first Jurassic and dosen't give a memorable theme for the new park (the theme is more a other version from the Williams' theme), dosen't feel fresh to the franchise or inteligent, reverse, copies the tonal aspects from the original music from John Williams. Vulture's theme is a reshash from the Fantastic Four theme from Marco Beltrami and Philip Glassmpolonest123 Iím glad Iím not the only one who enjoys Jurassic World. It think it pays great tribute to John Williamsí groundbreaking work for the JP franchise, but it also had many exciting and creative motifs that made the score stand out in my mind.As for Pan, I initially wasnít impressed at all with the music. It took about a year for it to sink in and let me fall in love with the themes.@mrzimmerfan<br>Yeah, I definitely disagree. When I was watching Rogue One in theaters I kept getting taken out of the film because of the music, which isnít something that I normally pay attention to when I watch movies. <br><br>And I know it gets criticized a lot, but I honestly love Jurassic World. The flat recording sound aside, I think itís an intelligent score that does something new the franchise material while still paying tribute. Even Homecoming has grown on me, particularly Vultureís theme.@Ds: i'm not a big fan for Pan, i liked the score, but Powell have MUUUCH better action/fantasy scores.
"Pan" was also a replacement score, and look at the marvelous Powell score we got... However I don't know how long he had to score it. Certainly a bit more time than what Giacchino got for Rogue One.The action music is flat in Rogue One?, agree if the score isn't as good as Jupiter Ascending, for example, but the action music is BETTER than Spider-Man or Jurassic World.<br><br>IMHOAlso new Harry Gregson-Williams score out today! Breath.To be fair, Giacchino didnít have much time to work on Rogue One, which explains why certain portions (coughactionmusiccough) fell flat. Itís not a bad score at all, but yeah, John Powell is above and beyond a better composer. His recordings have life and energy, and while most of it still sounds like Powell, he is able to switch into Williams mode so easily.<br><br>In defense of Giacchino though, just go listen to Jupiter Ascending if you want a score on the same level as this. The action music is phenomenal, there are at least a dozen solid themes, and the recording doesnít seem as flat as some of his other scores.I think Powell found his niche with this score...<br>Because he's WAY better at apeing Williams than Giacchino could ever be, and with way more energy....<br><br>And here Giacchino prides his work on Williams from his origins in video game music... <br><br>This blows Giacchino out of the ocean and into the moon. This surprises me, as I expected Giacchino to have such  huge hard-on for Williams.
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The Guardian (Complete Score)
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  1. Opening - Randall Rescues Couple (5:54)
  2. Helen Leaves (1:14)
  3. Abandon Ship - Copter Crash (5:53)
  4. Billings Surfaces (1:14)
  5. Billings Dies (3:34)
  6. A School Introduction (3:48)
  7. Randall's Nightmare - Flashback #1 (0:39)
  8. Tread Water (2:00)
  9. Willing To Sacrifice (0:34)
  10. Hypothermic Pool Lesson (2:46)
  11. Pushing Blocks (1:27)
  12. Breath Record (1:17)
  13. Flare Demo - Flashback #2 (0:38)
  14. Understand Your Limits (1:44)
  15. Maggie & Randall Getting Old (0:49)
  16. Rude Awakening - Flashback #3 (0:27)
  17. Burning Boat Footage (1:11)
  18. Hodge Panics (1:28)
  19. Jake's Past (4:43)
  20. They're Not Coming Back (2:01)
  21. Skinner Bleeds (0:50)
  22. Graduation - Goodbye To Emily (3:19)
  23. Randall Back To Kodiak (1:45)
  24. Heading To Cave (2:46)
  25. Flashback #4 - Log Strike - Rescue (4:46)
  26. Randall Resigns (3:14)
  27. Randall Goes Back To Helen's (1:45)
  28. Randall Gives Helen Divorce Papers (1:30)
  29. Fishing Boat Rescue (5:24)
  30. Randall Returns To HQ (6:20)
  31. Randall Frees Jake (8:59)
  32. Never Let Go - Bryan Adams (5:06)
  33. Helen Leaves (Alternate) (1:15)
  34. Maggie & Randall Getting Old (Alternate) (0:49)
  35. Burning Boat Footage (Alternate) (1:09)
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Bayhem reply Replies: 2 || 2018-05-17 20:27:20
Hmm, aside from "The Guardian Suite' I don't think I've heard any other tracks from this score. And I have a feeling I'm not the only one....lol.

Speaking of.........I would most definitely put "The Guardian Suite' right up there next to "Now We Are Free" and "My Name is Lincoln". It's *that* good and powerful. Shame that the movie is not as popular as The Island and Gladiator. If it was, that suite would've been one of the most popular film score tracks with millions of views on YouTube. It certainly deserves it.


superultramegaa2018-05-17 21:56:46
Y'know, it's funny. The big names that always get the most attention in film music are often not my favorite tracks of the scores they represent. Now We Are Free, Arrival to Earth, Like A Dog Chasing Cars, Star Wars Main Theme, Indiana Jones Main Theme, Infinite White, One Day, Circle of Life, The Fellowship. Though they are the most well known, they're usually nowhere near the peak of quality of their scores.


I noticed this the most in Hans Zimmer's concerts (not World of Hans Zimmer mind you). The parts he played from The Dark Knight Trilogy in particular usually had the least substance. Just the bombastic tracks. The only choice I agreed with was Time from Inception. There was no Am I Not Merciful, A Watchful Guardian, Sunrise Over Pride Rock, none of that.


Even with Star Wars, the main theme and the Force theme are solid pieces of music, but neither come close to the beauty of Princess Leia's theme, or the wondrous Yoda theme.


Same with Lord of the Rings. The Fellowship Reunited, Very Old Friends, Gollum, and The Breaking of the Fellowship are much more substantial pieces than The Fellowship Theme alone in my opinion.


Can't say anything about My Name is Lincoln because I haven't finished The Island score yet, but yeah. I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.


Bayhem2018-05-18 05:16:58
I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.
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I totally get what you're saying. I also get kinda frustrated when a "big" track overshadows an entire score. The best recent examples are IMO the Transformers scores. I don't blame folks for gravitating towards the epic sound and the power anthems, but A LOT of subtle, equally great tracks end up getting completely ignored. And just like you, they're usually my favorite tracks.

But why most people don't think like us?

The reason I think is because those "big tracks" are presented - most of the time - during the most memorable moments in those movies. They immediately get people's attention. They're stuck in their mind along with those iconic images. And I think by nature, people are more attracted to the big and "in your face". For most casual listeners the more subtle tracks work in the context of the movie and they absolutely do notice them while watching the actual film. But unlike you and I they don't feel the need to listen to them separately. They're too busy paying attention to the "big track". That goes even for some score fans.

While tracks like the Star War theme, the Indy theme, the Transformers theme, the Gladiator theme, the Godfather theme, the Armageddon theme, the Pirates theme, the Lord of the Rings theme are so big, melodic abd easily digestable that folks simply can't resist them. And when there are vocals involved as well (like Gladiator) it's even better, because people treat it as a full-blown song. An emotional song that they can listen to over and over again.

The subtle tracks simply can't win against that. Sadly....

By the way, speaking of The Island, My Name is Lincoln (as much as I like it) is not my favorite track of the score. The more subtle opening track (The Island Awaits You) and especially the Lima One Alpha theme are my personal favorite tracks. Of course, they're nowhere near My Name is Lincoln, in terms of popularity.

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