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Seville, The Bait, Ambrose Welcomes Nyah, Chimera Myth, Beach Fight, Ambrose Dies.Can we stop? I agree with the other guy more in his points, but it's clear that this is gonna keep going nowhere if you're gonna be so overly defensive about something that you claim is merely subjective.But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br>======================<br><br><br>Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1. <br><br>So no, "challenging the viewer" is not about Transformers. You chose to focus on these movies. Not me. I was actually reffering to Bay movies like The Island and especially Pain and Gain. <br><br>But I guess you like to talk only about Transformers.....Good for you. But that's not how a discussion works. <br><br><br>===================<br>Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact. I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here. It's psychotic.<br>===================<br><br><br>So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic? <br><br>Wow! Just wow!<br><br>Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything. For you, that is apparently the normal behavior.<br><br><br>======<br>Bad movies make money. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.<br>=======<br><br>Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality. Also, a "bad" movie to you is the greatest movie for the guy walking next to you on the street. As Kevin Smith said: "Every movie is someone's favorite movie". <br><br>Let's try to keep that in mind.<br><br><br>============<br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br>============<br><br>Really?<br><br>Then what do you have to say about Pacific Rim 1. I present to you.......the pure numbers:<br><br>Budget: $200 million. And that doesn't include the marketing cost.<br>Worldwide gross: $411,002,906<br><br>So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?<br><br>Wow! Just.....wow!Yeah lol back then only Harold was confirmed.Can you tell me a names of cues, that was been on Klaus website?
Formality indeed. Complicated ! lol<br><br>You can bet Blake Neely didn't need anyone to "write" those 10 seconds !! lolI always found these credits to be a bit confusing. Klaus Badelt is credited on almost every cue, even when his themes don't appear and another additional composer is credited as well. I thought maybe it was just a formality that Zimmer and Badelt were credited everywhere (I mean, how much could they be involved on a cue like "Welcome to the Caribbean"?), but then "No real ship" and "Sword Fight Pt. 2" have no Badelt for some reason. Does someone know a bit more about this?well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon<br>"It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain."<br><br>I didn't think it was possible for a Bay fan of all people to be this insufferably pretentious.<br><br>I thought that was more Snyder fanboy territory.<br><br>But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br><br>Kudos, man.  Kudos.<br><br>You can hide behind however many fallacies you want.  If "Not to me" and "You do you" didn't give it away early on in this thread, I DIDN'T try to treat my opinions as fact.<br><br>But that doesn't mean I'm going to add a little "IMO" at the end of every goddamn sentence just to coddle you. <br><br>On the flip-side, consistently making appeals to authority and popularity, "B-b-but Spielberg said!", "B-b-but the Forbes poll said!" don't make you objective.<br><br>Y'know, it's funny.  When I listed off better blockbuster examples, you could've very easily just argued against them on the level of the films themselves, and everything would've been fine.<br><br>Sure, you would've just claimed you can't see the action at night sooner, which is rich when you praise the film series that puts the subjects of its action scenes OUT OF FOCUS every other shot, but hey, that's just honest opinions versus honest opinions.<br><br>But using two belated half-assed sequels from different, less talented directors that lost most of the appeal of the first movies, as some sorta litmus test for how well-liked the first movies were, is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard.  That's not objectivity, that's not even confusing correlation with causation, that's saying 1+2=4.<br><br>That's the real joke here.  Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact.  I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here.  It's psychotic.<br><br>Bad movies make money.  Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.  But if that's the kinda road you wanna go down, I guess movies like Avatar, The Force Awakens, or all the Avengers movies, are "objectively" better movies in every conceivable way than anything Bay has made in his entire career.  I mean, CLEARLY those films must have a bolder style and push more boundaries.<br><br>Why else would more people watch and rewatch them, right?<br><br>Reasonable causation is for those goshdarn geek journos.<br><br>And by the way, The Last Knight lost money.  Period.  Almost 100M according to Paramount themselves.<br><br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br><br>Have a nice day.Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br>==================<br><br>Kinda ironic, coming from you....but I'll take it as a compliment. Thank you! <br><br>And yes, he sides with me because what I say is common sense. For whatever reason, you have these strong negative feelings toward Bay films and those feelings blind you to some pretty obvious truths. <br><br>Have to say tho - for a 'hater' you sure know A LOT about him, his style and his movies. <br><br>Just admit it - you are a huge Bay fan but you just want to score some points with the snobbish internet crowd. <br><br><br><br>============<br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br>============<br><br>Oh, you're one of THOSE people......"Fury Roaaaaaaaaad is DA BEST FILM EVAAAAAAAA".<br><br>Let me guess: you also think that Nolan is the greatest director/person of all time. On par with Jesus himself. <br><br><br><br>==========<br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br>==========<br><br>Which is what Transformers 1 is. <br><br>Which is why the movie connected with audiences. It was - at its heart - a story about a boy and his car. Even the most jaded critics enjoyed that aspect.<br><br><br>=============<br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br>=============<br><br>Excuse? For what?<br><br>My friend, you do realize that Bay in particular is one of the most powerful and successful filmmakers of all time, right? He is the second highest-grossing director of all time (domestically), only behind Spielberg. You can dismiss box office success all you want but you don't get to where Bay is if you're not good at your job. <br><br>Snyder is nowhere near Bay, in terms of success and influence. Personally, I don't care much about him. <br><br><br>P.S. Guy Ritchie (and Edgar Wright) are huge Bay fans. Ask yourself why. <br><br><br>===============<br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole<br>===============<br><br>Your opinion.<br><br>I disagree.
Bay walks the lines between being self-serious and comical, but his films aren't well=written enough to serve the former, or witty enough to serve the latter, and the end-result is droll and annoying.<br>====================<br><br>You sure you're not a "writer" for one of those ridiculous geek sites like Collider, Screen Rant or Slash Film? Because you sound a lot like one of those "beloved" writers. <br><br>Anyway......Yes, Bay's movies always walk that line but whether that works or not is........Yes! a matter of opinion. For me, Pain and Gain is one of the best modern satires while for you it is - I'm guessing - "droll and annoying".<br><br>It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain. <br><br>Some of you folks are indeed very hard to please. <br><br><br>===============<br>The first POTC earns it. The Bad Boys 2 doesn't. Infinity War earns it. TF 1/2/3/4/5 doesn't.<br>==============<br><br>Okay, now that statement is the best joke of the year! Thank you for the good laugh! Really! Oh, and I've definitely argued with you before, my friend. You are clearly one of those ten Bay haters from the IMDb forums who claim to hate everything the man does, yet they have seen EVERYTHING he had done. Why is that, I wonder?<br><br><br>===========<br>Fitting, as Synder and Bay are cut from a very similar cloth. Difference is, unless we're talking Man of Steel, I'd sooner rely on Snyder for consistently good action sequences<br>===========<br><br>Well, I would trust Spielberg on this. Because it was Spielberg who said, and I quote: "Michael (Bay) is one of the greatest action directors. He has the best eye in Hollywood." Spielberg works with a lot of directors. But he never said anything like that about any other director. So clearly he means what he says about Bay. And....you know......unlike most people, Speilberg actually knows a thing or two about filmmaking. <br><br><br>================<br>300 didn't try to start a franchise. It was a one-off adaptation of a graphic novel in the same vein as Sin City, and was successful. They tried to make a cash-grab sequel almost a decade later, without Snyder, and it failed. That's hardly the first film's fault.<br>================<br><br>It is a clear proof that people weren't that excited to visit this world again. And mind you, that happened with the first sequel! Talk about a one-time thing, huh?<br><br>At the same time, Bay made FOUR Transformers movies - with different casts - before there were any signs of audience fatigue. <br><br>That speaks for itself.<br><br>===========<br>Pacific Rim suffered from lackluster marketing, and yet still managed to turn a profit and attract a strong following.<br>==========<br><br>Excuses, excuses, excuses.....So you can display all the excuses in the world for Pac Rim but when it comes to Transformers, you don't accept anything. <br><br>Double standard much?<br><br>P.S. That "strong following" is on the internet. The same following that was supposed to make Scott Pillgrim a huge hit. Everyone knows that internet hype is not real-world hype. I know very well the type of people who act as if Pac Rim is the best thing since sliced bread. Total geeks who are angry that Transformers is much more popular and much more successful than Del Toro's "let's shoot all the robot fights in pitch black so audiences can't see shit" movie.  <br><br>Also, let's not pretend that Pac Rim is a universally beloved film. You know very well that there are A LOT of detractors as well. That's what you get when people can't tell what's going on during the movie because you shot it all at night. Just like that Godzilla movie. <br><br><br>============<br>Versus something like Transformers, which has piggybacked on an established IP, relentless marketing campaigns and tie-ins, and a fairly consistent release schedule. And even then, recycling the same bullshit eventually took its toll.<br>============<br><br><br>Wrong.<br><br>Do you read Forbes? You should. Because it's a place where objective people write. It ain't a stupid militant film geek site like Ain't it Cool News or Screen Rant.<br><br>Forbes published multiple articles explaining in great detail why the Transformers movies were successful EXACTLY because they were directed by Bay. Whether you like it or not, my friend, Bay is a brand. He is an auteur. There were multiple polls before the first two Transformers movies and Bay being the director was one of the main reasons for people to watch the movies. <br><br>But I guess you missed all of that, huh?<br><br>How convenient.<br><br><br>==============<br>Friendly reminder that AoE also relied on China (more pathetically then even Pacific Rim did) to compensate for diminishing domestic returns. To say nothing of TLK outright bombing.<br>==============<br><br>First: according to ACTUAL real data, the only TF movie that was saved by China is.......Bumblebee! Yeah, you better believe it. Go to Deadline and Forbes and read it for yourself.<br><br>Second: TLK bombed domestically, yes. <br>But not internationally. No one with actual knowledge of the situation refers to that movie as an international "bomb". Besides, there were 4 super successful TF movies before TLK. So Bay got nothing to prove. He already created one of the biggfest film franchises in history. <br><br>How many directors can say that?<br><br><br><br>==================<br>I know you like debunking Bay naysayers with "facts and logic," but it helps to not be grossly disingenuous while doing it<br>==================<br><br><br>Goes both ways, my friend. But unlike most naysayers, I don't treat my own personal opinions as facts. And if I'm being "disingenuous" then I don't even know what to say about some Bay haters who refuse to accept even the most obvious facts and truths.nopeYou realize there is a very easy and free method to get the music from that site, dont you?Random thought but this got me thinking about Zanelli's history with fantasy.<br><br>Whatever happened to his score for Delgo?  I know it's been accused of being super derivative of his other works anyways but still, it's weird to see a RCP score just drop off the face of the Earth like that.There's just something really charming about seeing a prototype for a famous future theme showing up in an old score.<br><br>Or in PotC's case, SCORES.
The only ones I've seen properly confirmed are the cues Badelt had listed on his website. The issue with everything else is that there's certain themes that's been associated with certain people, but aren't credited for every appearance. Not to mention that I've never really seen much official credits elsewhere, so I take any that I've seen with a grain of salt.This comment was made before that was properly confirmed, so he was likely going to do it solo at the time.I thought Hans was collaborating with Faltermayer For Top Gun 2From both ASCAP and GEMACan these be accessed anywhere?
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Harry Gregson-WilliamsJohn PowellJames McKee SmithSteve Jablonsky
ComposerComposerAdditional MusicAdditional Music
Chicken Run
Label: RCA Victor
Length: 62'28 (Score: 59'52)
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
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  1. Opening Escape (3:39)
    John Powell
  2. Main Titles (3:24)
    John Powell
  3. The Evil Mrs. Tweedy (4:22)
    John Powell
  4. Rats! (1:09)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  5. Chickens Are Not Organized (1:01)
    John Powell
  6. We Need A Miracle (2:03)
    John Powell
  7. Rocky And The Circus (3:51)
    John Powell
  8. Flight Training (3:39)
    John Powell
  9. A Really Big Truck Arrives (5:56)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  10. Cocktails And Flighty Thoughts (1:58)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  11. Babs' Big Break (1:40)
    John Powell
  12. Flip Flip And Fly - Ellis Hall (2:09)
  13. Up On The Roof (3:08)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  14. Into The Pie Machine (3:10)
    John Powell
  15. Rocky‚ A Fake All Along (3:28)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  16. Building The Crate (3:32)
    John Powell
  17. The Wanderer - Dion (2:47)
  18. The Chickens Are Revolting (2:45)
    John Powell, Gavin Greenaway
  19. Lift Off (3:41)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  20. Escape To Paradise (4:59)
    John Powell, Gavin Greenaway, James McKee Smith
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Joey Good reply Replies: 0 || 2019-10-21 00:43:30
Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?

jjstarA113 reply Replies: 1 || 2019-10-03 03:30:45
Powell produced that "Flip Flip And Fly" song???


jjstarA1132019-10-03 03:31:06
*Flop

Scorefan reply Replies: 5 || 2018-06-25 19:37:39
Is this true?

Sessions:
01. 1m1 Opening Escape (3:39)
02. 1m2 Main Titles (3:23)
03. 1m3 The Evil Mrs. Tweedy (4:22)
04. 1m4a First Roll Call (2:06)
05. 1m4b Edwina’s Execution (1:28)
06. 1m5 Rats (1:08)
07. 1m7a Mrs. Tweedy’s Idea (Part 1) (0:40)
08. 1m7b Mrs. Tweedy’s Bad Idea (Part 2) (0:44)
09. 1m9 Ginger’s Dream (1:14)
10. 2m6 Cocktails Flighty Thoughts (1:58)
11. 2m7 Chickens Are Not Organized (1:00)
12. 2m8 We Need A Miracle (2:02)
13. 2m9 Rocky and The Circus (3:51)
14. 2m10 Rocky Arrives (0:58)
15. 2m11 Our Way Out (0:48)
16. 2m15 Circus Truck Arrives (2:35)
17. 2m16 Sleeping With Fowler (0:35)
18. 2m17-18 Flight Training (3:39)
19. 2m18 Futile Flying (1:58)
20. 2m19-21 Pie Mach Truck (5:57)
21. 3m12 Flip Flop Fly (2:09)
22. 3m22 Our Future (1:06)
23. 3m25 Thrust (1:02)
24. 3m26a 2nd Roll (1:10)
25. 3m26b Chicken Feed (0:31)
26. 3m26x Babs Big Break (1:39)
27. 3m32a Pie Machine Starts Up (1:34)
28. 3m32b Rocky Heroic On Hanger (0:34)
29. 4m33 Into The Pie Machines (3:11)
30. 4m34 Up On The Roof (3:08)
31. 4m35a Poster (2:01)
32. 4m35b Mud Fight (1:37)
33. 4m37 Rocky A Fake All Along (3:28)
34. 5m36 Building The Crate (3:32)
35. 5m38-39 Chickens Are Rev (2:46)
36. 5m40 Lift Off (3:41)
37. 5m41 Escape To Paradise (4:59)


Hybrid Soldier2018-06-25 19:52:51
... Partially ?


Anonymous2018-06-25 21:36:36
The cues that crossfade into one another on the official album have the same length on this "session" thing. Surely that is not how "sessions" are presented like...


Mr Tweedy2018-06-26 10:28:58
Looks like a combination of the official CD and a few unreleased tracks that ended up on the internet 6-7 years ago...


Edmund Meinerts2018-06-30 14:55:03
Yeah the amount of actual new music on that thing is pretty negligible, less than 5 minutes total of short cues. A lot of what looks like new stuff here are just shorter cues that were combined for the OST (e.g. "Poster" and "Mud Fight" are the two cues that make up "Rocky, a Fake All Along"). Unless you're desperate for clean beginnings/endings, these are the only tracks that actually contain new material:

Ginger's Dream (a nice soft take on the main theme by HGW I think)
Our Way Out
Our Future
2nd Roll (only the last 30 seconds)
Chicken Feed

It's definitely not a true sessions leak. But the album was already very comprehensive as it is and the movie's only 84 minutes long, so I doubt we're missing much (if anything).


Hybrid Soldier2018-06-30 18:03:24
Note in the soundtrack, "Into the Pie Machine" is the Powell alternate (used in the film) of the middle section of HGW's "A Really Big Truck Arrives".

So the release has both the film cue & the alternate.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 4 || 2013-11-17 15:21:00
How come there are some guys like Jablonsky and Zanelli who are listed as additionals here, but don't have any cues credited to them?


Frisbee2013-11-17 16:34:20
Two possibilities:

1) The parts they wrote didn't make it to the album program, or

2) It is known that these guys did write some music for this film, but the exact cues are not known.


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-17 16:42:36
Not sure about #1, because I honestly don't think there's much more music in the film than there is on this album.


Mike2013-11-19 04:15:54
Perhaps they did source music not included here...I know that was what Zanelli did on Antz.


Mr Tweedy2013-11-19 22:24:11
Actually Edmund there are a few tracks in the film that didn't make it to the album (5 minutes or so I think).
This could be an explanation. Perhaps some additional composers just helped here and there but didn't earn credits because their contribution was meager too much ?

I don't remember if there was any source music in the film apart from "The Wanderer" (that was not composed by the score team, of course).

MacArthur reply Replies: 1 || 2013-08-11 19:30:05
I Kinda Sounds Like the Great Escape Theme by Elmer Bernstein


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-11 22:40:22
Well, considering the movie is essentially The Great Escape except with chickens, I think that was the general idea. ;)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-25 07:55:05
So then, I take it JP was the primary guy here?

Ele reply Replies: 1 || 2009-12-16 00:00:00
There's mistake. Geoff Zanelli did not write additional music here.


Mike2013-04-10 04:59:28
Apparently he did. The film is listed on his site.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-28 09:26:05
Steve Jablonsky worked on this score! Wow!

FunnyML reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
According to the film's credits sequence, Geoff Zanelli actually did an additional cue.

Mario Soundtrack reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-25 00:00:00
New Actualist!!!!! John Powell and Harry Gregson-Williams is the best DUO. Yes, and with Hans Zimmer too.!

Opening Escape - Main Title - The Evil Mrs.Tweedy - Chickens Are not Organized - Flight Training -
A Really Big Truck Arrives - Cocktalis and Flighty Thoughts - Into the Pie Machine -
Building the Crate - The Chickens Are Revolting - Lift Off - Escape to Paradise !!!! 12 of 20 Goods!!

Mario Soundtrack reply Replies: 0 || 2009-02-28 00:00:00
Opening Escape - Main Titles - A really Big Truck Arrives - Into the Pie Machine - Building the Crate - Chickens Are Revolting - Lift Off & Escape to Paradise!
The best!!

Mario Soundtrack reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-19 00:00:00
This audible band is especially good, very varied and wonderful. The by that? The name of the two authors explains it all, loves me this duo. My favourite songs of here are:
Opening Escapes, Main Titles, A Really Big Truck Arrives, Building the Crate, The Chickens Are Revolting, LIFT OFF & Escape to Paradise.

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-24 00:00:00
Amazing score!

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-23 00:00:00
Go Hans Zimmer? Excuse me?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-10-24 00:00:00
Great score for an amazingly made movie. Go Aardman. Go Hans Zimmer. Go life!

Ant reply Replies: 0 || 2006-08-13 00:00:00
Heh, the kazoos are just the cherry on top!

Peter Mandelson reply Replies: 0 || 2005-01-09 00:00:00
Great score for a great film!

John Mason reply Replies: 0 || 2005-01-09 00:00:00
My excitement just couldn.t be contained when I heard that Chicken Run was being scored by Gregson-Williams/Powell after their amazing collaboration on Antz. I knew we were all in for a treat!
I heard somewhere that main title music is a good way of telling how good the rest of the score is going to be and this is no exception. The "--Opening Escape"-- and "--Main Titles"-- tracks are seven minutes of sheer excitement. The music could be easily inserted into any old-fashioned war movie like 'The Great Escape' (which the film and music obviously parodies).
The introduction of the Mrs Tweedy character, which is gloriously placed in track 3, is at first ominous and then sad to accompany the execution of a fellow chicken.
There are many other sad, heartfelt cues in the score such as "--We Need A Miracle, "--Up On The Roof"-- and "--Rocky, A Fake All Along"--.
There are also many other action filled tracks (tracks 14 and 16).
I almost forgot to mention the kazoos - they are great. They provide a perfect comical feel to the score whilst preventing it from becoming too serious.
There are two songs on the album, one existing and one original - which is very enjoyable.

A great collaboration between the two composers who will continue to produce, interesting and exciting scores for years to come.

***** out of *****

Mr.Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2004-12-07 00:00:00
Certainement l'oeuvre la plus aboutie écrite par John Powell et Harry Gregson-Williams.
Les deux compositeurs ont réalisé un travail excellent pour ce film des studios Aardman, déjà créateurs des courts "--Wallace &-- Gromit"--.
L'humour est omniprésent et les différents thèmes sont recherchés, et d'une énergie rare.
Du "--Main Titles"-- au "--Building the Crate"-- survitaminé, pas une seule seconde de musique n'ennuie l'auditeur. Même les deux chansons ("--Flip Flop and Fly"-- &-- "--The Wanderer"--) s'inscrive parfaitement dans le contexte.
L'utilisation des kazoos donne un son nasillard très drôle, en guise d'identité sonore de la bande originale.

Une petite perle que tous les fans de Powell et Gregson-Williams se doivent d'avoir dans leur collection. Magnifique.

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